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Penny Arcade's latest shill for WoW.

Posted by todeswulf Wednesday February 6 2008 at 1:27AM
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I sometimes wonder if Gabe and Tycho over at Penny Arcade actually believe that gamers buy into the whole “we are neutral and aren’t really critics Bullshit?”
 
 I’m referring to this comic and this blog respectively. While I am no giant fan of DDO, I do believe Kate Piaz (who has done a very good job steering a game that was on life support) should bitch slap Tycho the next time she see him for referring to her not by name but by the 1840’s moniker “The Woman” (Kate… Tycho….her name is Kate, she even tells you what her name is at the beginning of the video you half-assed looked at, but..you already knew who she was and still decided to snub her that way…prick.)  
 
But actually that is an aside from the real issue I have with this comic/blog or “Clog.”
 
Tycho then goes into this rant that even if the DDO was awesome it could still not beat the Apex of Killing 10 Yetis in World Of Warcraft. He then basically tells us that neither Warhammer Online, nor Age of Conan really can possibly be better than the “rescinded, and reasserted “ bliss that is WoW (Yeah I wanted to puke too) he sums up this ignorant sycophancy by telling us how he spent several hours grinding Mobs that refused to yield the loot he was after….because after all not giving us what we need to finish a quest is why Nine Million Chinese gold farmers, and several thousand North American Trailer Park dwellers play World Of Warcraft.
 
Since despite his sometime unbearable ego I still think Tycho is an okay guy, and in that spirit I’ve decided to end his confusion on whether Warhammer will be a better game or not.
 
Tycho, dude…..Warhammer is in fact better than World Of Warcarft.
 
There I said it and I’m not taking it back. I now am going to tell you why it’s better without breaking the NDA, because unlike you I don’t spew shit just to hear the sound of my own voice.
 
·       It’s better first and foremost because it is the original that Warcraft pillaged and raped the hell out of .
 
·       It’s better because it doesn’t look like Walt Disney dropped several hits of microdot, and decided to make a MMO.
 
·       It’s better because you are actually dropped into the Warhammer fantasy universe, and you engage in that universe as opposed to being dropped into the middle of a brightly colored acquisition simulator.
 
·       It’s better because you do not look like an Assfuck waiting for a place to happen when you put on Armor,  (Something you no doubt like) but most of all Tycho…you fucking shill it’s better because you don’t have to spend hours killing Yetis for their skins.
 
But…. These reason mean nothing to you do they?  Because at the end of the day I’m trying to get through to a guy that gets paid ( A great deal of money) to do artwork for WoW Strategy guides, and Collectable Card Games…. In the end he is just serving his master…. in a neutral, non- critical way of course.  
 
 
 
 
Revrant writes:

I can't actually say anything about that, because I think Penny Arcade is largely garbage itself, however, I do take issue with this statement.

  It’s better because you are actually dropped into the Warhammer fantasy universe, and you engage in that universe as opposed to being dropped into the middle of a brightly colored acquisition simulator.

Well here's my issue, Warcraft was already a very bright universe with an emphasis on art and exaggeration, Warhammer was not, the current version of Warhammer is much more cartoony than the base art and tabletop games, and is in fact going after WoW's cartoony look. Which is crap, because the original art(adult as it often can be) is far better and deserves to be the focus, not this cartoonish, more friendly vision Mythic has created.

You know, I think the Warhammer game might end up being good, but all the same, the art is entirely wrong, so don't make that claim, if you want to see art that's true to the source look up the ORIGINAL Warhammer MMO which had some extremely innovative ideas of it's own before being ripped away from the former developers.

Wed Feb 06 2008 4:19AM Report
jotull writes:

 

Excellent blog 100% Spot on guy, ignore Bevis and Butthead it's obvious they lacked the basic comprehension to get what you’re saying. I hear folks say that Gabe and Tycho are comics first, and that is such a crock of shit, it's what they hide behind. They are critics first and foremost. Well paid critics at that.

I noticed this was you’re first Blog, welcome aboard , but let me warn you , you’re facing flames from a lot of tools.

Wed Feb 06 2008 4:24AM Report
mudkip9001 writes:

over-react much?

Wed Feb 06 2008 7:36AM Report
Peetee writes:

DDO was the most foul piece of wookie crap i ever had the displeasure of playing. It was boring and the mechanics SUCKED. Horrible game.  I think Penny Arcade was right on the nose with that one.

Wed Feb 06 2008 9:54AM Report
mtkuma writes:

I enjoy PA, even if I disagreee with what they are currently ranting about.  The only piece of advice I have for you is don't read them, and on the same notion don't watch porn if you are going to be offended,  don't watch the news if you are a crybaby.  You have a choice in what you read, watch, and play if something bothers you don't repeat it expecting diffrent results.

Wed Feb 06 2008 11:11AM Report
Hexxeity writes:

Every Penny Arcade blog is far better reasoned and more entertaining than what you've written here.

Wed Feb 06 2008 12:44PM Report
Faymar writes:

Wow reading some of these replies make me want to weep for the public education system.  This is one of the better-written Blogs I have read on this site, but it's going over most readers’ heads.
Anyway.... while I am a huge wow fan, I do agree with Todeswulf, it seems that Tycho was following X-plays lead in saying that all MMORPG's past present and future sucks when stacked up against wow.  Which is ludicrous.
Oh and honestly Todes, Tycho is like that around all women, he has this "Go make me a sandwich bitch" attitude, I met him at Pax last year and the entire encounter consisted of him ogling my boobs, and making condescending remarks to questions I had about their upcoming game...real classy guy.  Gabe believe it or not is the nicer of the two. 
Overall good Blog post but you should have known the PA fanboys would come out to give you grief over this.

Wed Feb 06 2008 2:46PM Report
jotull writes:

Faymar: I have heard a lot of females say the same thing about Tycho, I personally have never met they guy but there was some big brew-ha over his behavior at a Gen-con  a couple years back involving one of  the girlfriends of a WotC employee., my friend who was there said it almost came down to Tycho getting punched out.

Wed Feb 06 2008 3:18PM Report
Gishgeron writes:

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If you had called them shills for any OTHER company I might be inclined to read and actually be open minded with you.  But, obviously you just don't agree with them and have decided that only your opinion can be untainted.

 

Bear with me on this.....Assasin's Creed, you could call them shills for that.  You'd be wrong, but at least it would make sense.  Blizzard does not NEED shills.  It never has.  Why in the hell would a company with 10 million subscribers "need" some stupid webcomic to support them?  They have Mr T. Chirstsakes!

 

What this really boils down to is that you all just can't seem to differentiate between opinion and fact.  PA have opinions, and they only support games they like.  That does not make them shills.  I'm sure they honestly believe in everything they posted in that blog.  Most of it is spot on too, with the normal amount of comedic exaggeration one would expect from a webcomic.

 

You present this claim as a fact.  The only fact here is that Blizzard has absolutely no need to pay Tycho a damn dollar.  They do not need "underground" assistance...when Blizzard makes a marketing push they do so in primetime.  They are not shills by any stretch of the imagination, they are just fanboys.  If you wish to hate on them for THAT, be my guest.  At least THAT claim would be substantiated.

Wed Feb 06 2008 3:28PM Report
todeswulf writes:


Actually Gishgron your logic is quite flawed. I never once said that Blizzard needed shills.  Blizzard doesn't, but I'm sure PA Inc truly enjoys the benefits of being the artist du-jour for all Brady Games  Strategy guides, and a ever increasing number of CCG art.  and therefore goes out of it's way to appease the hand that helps feed them. 

As for being spot on.... Both Gabe and Tycho has said they have no clue about what WAR or AoC will bring...yet they can't possibly see how it can beat WoW?  That's not presumption that is blind conjecture, and if it were anyone else I would chalk it up to ignorance...with Tycho it's a pretty safe bet its keeping a benefactor happy. But you said you stop reading when the word shill appeared..so I guess I'm wasting my breath. :)

Faymar: Yeah my Wife met Tycho several years before I did at Dragon Con, I asked her what type of guy he was and her response was simply “Chauvinist Prick” I decided not to press the issue. ;)

Wed Feb 06 2008 6:38PM Report
VideoJockey writes:

The guys at PA have gone public with stories of denying advertising to games that they don't like. When it comes to console games, if they haven't played it and liked it, they won't advertise for it. They'd rather turn down money than promote a game they think is crap.

The whole reason they chomped at the bit to work on the WoW franchise was because they were already fans of the game.

Wed Feb 06 2008 10:57PM Report
jotull writes:

Videojockey Apparently  that also goes for games they haven't played and  are afraid might impact WoW. It also means that they will cover for a company no matter what underhanded move it puts on it's player base as Blizzard has done more times than I can count.  It's kinda amusing the way you are trying to spin this into an integrity thing.

Thu Feb 07 2008 8:03AM Report
VideoJockey writes:

What kind of underhanded things has Blizzard done to it's player base? I may not always agree with the things they do, but at least they don't alienate their players like SOE and EA. I like Blizzard's invisible management style.

I guess I just enjoy playing a game that has populated servers and isn't in any danger of being shut down for once.

Thu Feb 07 2008 9:08AM Report

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