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Musings and Stuff.

Random thoughts and musings.

Author: singsofdeath

A New Hope(Hype?)...

Posted by singsofdeath Monday September 1 2008 at 7:20AM
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So, this weekend has brought us all something many did not expect, others prayed for and still others were certain would be ground-breaking. A new sort of life-sign from Darkfall, a large, HD Video, taken, as stated, 100% in game with Developers behind the controls of the characters seen.


And now, the Forums have been in an uproar all the last two days. Threads have been started about the same topics numerous times, and the praise for the game has, in some cases, gone far beyond the realm of the appropriate, as has the oftentimes ludicrous counter-wave to said claims. It's an all out fanboi-vs-hater war all right, with everything such a war needs and....boy doesn't this sound familiar?


With little to nothing as proof, people claim this game will be awesome. Those same people claim it will be a game that people like me (unimaginative, lazy people with no taste whatsoever) will never be able to play, because it takes so much more skill than any other game out there. They proclaim that their game is much better than any other (even though not they nor anyone else have ever played it so far), their tastes are better and they are the only ones whose opinion counts in this matter. The zealousness with which this game is being hyped is astounding to say the least.


In part, I can understand that. DF promises to be what many many "veteran" gamers have been looking for for a long long time. It promises to be a huge world where the player is the one shaping the world with unparalleled freedom and by the strength of his/her skill alone. It's appealing, it is promising...


It is also much too early to say anything apart from: "This looks promising." followed by "Let's see how it actually turns out."


Of course, people do not like to hear that. Some of them anyway. The merest notion that something could be wrong with the game is summarily dismissed by some. Some claim that even masses of bugs would not make this game bad, simply because of the concept behind it. But mostly, the people place their full faith in the Developers to "do things right", despite having no evidence that they are doing so in many cases.


So, Darkfall is a new hope for many people. It is a "beacon" of hope for those who enjoy sandbox, and sandbox only. It promises to deliver what the market may very well need. A breath of fresh air. If it can live up to the promises, it might just make other companies see and might just cause changes in titles yet to come. We can hope for that. I hope for that.


The Hype that is now starting to surround this game is growing and growing and with it come all the hallmarks of over-hype. I caution everyone to fall into the same trap that many (myself included) have fallen for in the days gone. Until I am play-testing the finished, polished game for free, I will remain a skeptic and continue to point out possible problems with the game. And there are possible problems. Even if people don't want to see them or gloss them over with the best and final argument of the DF Crowd "Gameplay is everything".


Until the game has delivered on all of its promises (or at least, most of them), it remains just that.

A Hope.

imbant writes:


Even though you and I share different opinions about DF sometimes, I will say you are one of my more favorite posters because you are able to be objective and write in a constructive manor.

That being said, good blog and in response I will say that while the final verdict is still out on thing is for sure...people are talking a lot more about this game.

Ive seen multiple blogs come up about it.  And even though some are written by blind bashers...they are still hyping it up indirectly wether the like it or not.  The DF forum itself is becomming more civil with decent discussion.  And the official forum has started to become flooded with new people who have no idea what DF is about asking where the download for the beta they just signed up for is (lol).

Anyways it is good to see DF get some much deserved attention in my opinion.  It will certainly be interesting to see how it pans out over the next 2 months to when beta is planned to start.

I have a lot of faith in it.  But all it is is faith and just a good feeling.

Mon Sep 01 2008 7:54AM Report
Bruticus_XI writes:

To the DF community's credit, I've only seen a handful of "blind fanbois" who, honestly, would explode before they admit their game could be flawed. Darkfall is only one movie trailer closer to being a good game - and that's not saying much. We'll definetely see, but to be honest, the troll-fanboi wars are pretty entertaining.

Well, until I get tired of 'em =)

Mon Sep 01 2008 8:50AM Report
Sintrix writes:

Darkfall get some kind of hype about once a year.  Any real game is going to take about a year of closed beta to get polished the way a mmo needs to be for a full release.  Considering they havent started inviting anyone yet if this game comes out within the next 6 months its going to be a piece of garbage.

Mon Sep 01 2008 3:38PM Report
PrinnySquad writes:

"It is also much too early to say anything apart from: "This looks promising." followed by "Let's see how it actually turns out.""

Nailed it.

But people seem to enjoy super-hyping and proclaiming it as the next greatest thing ever.

Generally speaking, the only time you can properly estimate how good a game will be is if its a sequal based on something that is known to be fun and works. Not something done often for MMOs - for example, EQ1 and EQ2 are quite different.

You can sometimes determine if you COULD like a game based on features and gameplay specifics, but even if those turn out to be true but poorly executed, the game will still suck.

In shot, until it releases and you're actually playing it, you cant' really judge it.

Mon Sep 01 2008 5:36PM Report
zonzai writes:

I must have missed the hype.  All saw was a video of an interesting looking game followed by a bunch of "Dark Fall's graphics suck" posts.

Mon Sep 01 2008 6:22PM Report
cosimusta writes:

People will always get hyped up about games they want to play.  Of course, saying something like "this game is awesome!" before you even play it, isn't the wisest thing you could say.

I don't see how you can justly call out Darkfall fans on being sucked into the hype machine though.  How is getting hyped about a game unique to Darkfall in any way?

It's also not really fair to assume that every MMO is going to be an AoC type scenario.  The anticipation is part of the fun, and to be honest, most MMOs do offer what they promise in the hype period before launch.

Mon Sep 01 2008 6:37PM Report
zagreos writes:

Its good to be open minded.

Mon Sep 01 2008 6:54PM Report
jmd10222 writes:

Very well thought out post, and sums up my thoughts on DF. I HOPE its everything its supposed to be, but my doubts far outweigh my optimism.

Tue Sep 02 2008 12:20AM Report writes:
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