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Restless thoughts.

Why do many players defend their chosen MMO and bash on all others so aggressively?

Author: Sepulcher

Why we fight: Part 1

Posted by Sepulcher Thursday May 22 2008 at 8:55PM
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So I have been doing alot of thinking lately about why people get so intense when talking about MMOs.  No one can make a criticism or point out a something positive about any MMO without being attacked from all sides by fans and/or trolls.  If someone says that they don't like the graphics for a particular game they are quickly told there is more to a game than graphics.  If they say they enjoy a certain gameplay mechanic, the nay-sayers will fall from the sky and point out how that playstyle is pointless.  It is their choice to decide what makes the game fun for them, it is not your place to decide for them what matters in a game.

Why do players do this?  Why do you feel compelled to spew your opinion at other people as if it were fact?  What makes your style of gameplay better than theirs?  The amount of hate that exists on any MMO forum is mind blowing.

It reminds me of hardcore religious fanatics (pick any religion you like) and their closed minded opinions towards others.  It is as if you need to attack other MMOs to justify to yourself that the one you chose was the smarter choice and try to get converts to your cause which further strengthens your beliefs.  Afterall no one wants to be the fool and when you waste $50 on a piece of trash you sometimes cling to it as if it were gold. If you admit that the game sucks then you feel like you fell for the hype and just threw your money away.  The same could be said for people who play game X and then game Y comes out and starts selling a ton of copies.  Why do you care?  What does it matter to you if someone else preffers game Y over the game you are playing?  You didn't make game X did you?  So why insult someone because they dont like what you like?

Also the amount of people playing the game does not make it better.  We all know WoW is a huge success.  I've played it and enjoyed it, many others have as well.  That does not mean it is the best, it only means it is making the most money.  Thats like saying , and it has been said before, that vanilla is the best flavor because it sells more icecream.  Well what if you don't like vanilla and you preffer chocolate? Are you an idiot because your have different tastes? Why can't people just live and let live?

That leads me to my next point, why can't we have more variety?  So many players have the "There can be only one" mentality when it comes to MMOs.  Why can't we have 3 successful games?  Why not 10?  If your game doesn't do as well thats not the fault of the people playing the other games, its the fault of the developer for not making a better game.  If that even matters to you.  Some people preffer to play games that only have a few thousand players instead of millions.  Why can't they enjoy their game without being laughed at because their game isn't making as much money?

Seriously, I think the MMO community needs to mature a bit.  All that matters is that you enjoy the game you are playing.  The amount of money it makes, number of players, style of gameplay, graphics, and everything else does not matter if you are not enjoying it.   It will be a great day when we see  MMORPGs, MMORTSs,  and MMOFPSs (and any other type of style you can toss the MMO prefix onto) on the shelves.  Variety is the spice of life.

So the next time you feel the urge to insult someone because they play a game you don't like, stop and think.  "Why do I care about what that other person enjoys?".

csizzle831 writes: Great blog. Very well written. I think it just comes down to human nature and a need to always be right or come out on top no matter what the opposition has against you. Everything has to be a competition to them. I do agree that the mmo community definitely has some maturing to do. If you look at it though, mmorpg's can be the most stressful, time sinking, money blowing entertainment source out there. People put a lot of time and money into this business so they're obviously going to have strong opinions about it and want their voice to be heard. Thu May 22 2008 10:22PM Report
grimfall writes:

Well.. if everyone agreed with everyone then most of the posts would be quite short and boring.  It's a form of entertainment to many to argue and to read other's arguments.

It's sort of ironic that you criticize people for criticizing others.  People enjoy the banter, why does that bother you?  'Why can't people just live and let live?'  Look in the mirror for a start to answering that question.

You also contradict yourself when you say that people should be able to play the game they like without criticism, and then go on and criticize every game other than WoW by saying 'if your game doesn't do's the fault of the developer for not making a better game.'

I think that cookie dough is still the #1 flavor for icecream.

Fri May 23 2008 12:29AM Report
Sepulcher writes:

Grimfall you didn't even read my blog.

I said nothing about having discussions about games.  I said the problem is with players insulting eachother because they like different things.  I am not trying to insult anyone, I am just talking about what I have seen in the community.

Also you immediate jump to the "WoW" part and think I am defending it.  If you actually read my blog you would see that I criticised WoW as well.  I stated that having more subs does not make the game better.  The part you quoted about "if your game doesn't do well its not the fault of the people playing, its the fault of the developer for not making a better game" is immediately followed by "If that even matters to you".

That means for those who care about the number of subs for the game the play shouldn't bash the players who play a game that has more subs than the one you play.

I also stated that the number of subs doesn't mean the game is better, it just means they make more money.

From what I see it appears you just skimmed through, saw "WoW" and since it wasn't immediately followed by "sucks" you assumed I was bashing other games.

You completely missed my point.

Fri May 23 2008 1:04AM Report
sunnyraining writes:

I agree Sepulcher and a very well-written blog. I'll be waiting for your next piece :)

To Grimfall - I don't think Sep is trying to criticise - it's more of a commentary on the state of affairs in the MMO world and quite accurate at that I think.

Fri May 23 2008 3:11AM Report
teraflop122 writes:

People put a lot of time and money into a specific game, but it's less a matter of having their voice heard than proving to themselves that they made a good decision. Insulting others because of differing choices is a defensive mechanism people use to hide their own insecurities.

Fri May 23 2008 12:06PM Report
Sirmaki writes:

Several people here are on the right track. All people have a need to feel important. The less they have to feel important about, the more they cling to what they have. So if you have very little, and let's be honest here, many gamers are socially and financially not at the top of the game,  you leap to defend yourself (the choice you made) at any hint of critisism. A new game comes out. Doesn't mean your game sucks, but if you see people leaving it for the FotM, especially your friends, and you can't swing the funds to do so yourself, well then you feel slighted financially, and thus leap to defend your game. You stay because of X, Y, and Z. That game sucks because etc etc.

Same with religion. If you are truly a member of the Chosen Ones, you really do have super secret, mystical knowledge, then you must be special. Cults have eliteness, mainstream religions have mass numbers. All have super neato club houses, special roles for people to play (I know one local church that has 18 associate pastors and it's a regular church, not one of these mega-church/small city types.) Or you can be the 3rd Executive Director in charge of refreshments for the 3-4 yr old group. How is that any different from being Head Crafter in your guild?

Sat May 24 2008 8:45AM Report writes:
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