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How to look cool and get the chicks while playing MMO's

Rants, wild speculation, unfounded theories and general poor quality humor.

Author: MacScarfe

Why the h8te?

Posted by MacScarfe Sunday August 16 2009 at 12:30PM
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For my own personal edification AND the fact this mega rant/post was not specific to the game sub-forum i inflicted it upon AND it just took up too much space, i decided to make it into a blog.

Someone asked the following on the forum

"lol... But seriously, why does every game HAVE to cater to the PvP crowd these days? WoW tacked it on and did well, CO may tack it on as well and do well also... Not everyone prefers the sports car so why not let some people drive SUV's?"

this was my reply ......... sorry


Games don't have to cater to PvP these days, the market has grown such that niche games can be very successful, assuming the development company behind them are realistic in their aims and profits forecast. But they have to be aware that it's not a case of just cutting out one ingedient from the cookie cutter MMO formula, but that need to add a new ingedient to compensate for it's loss.

However the real problem is the way MMO's are developed and the way the companies deal with their fans.

Consider how the average computer game is developed vs how the average mmo is developed. At first the process seems very similar, but upon closer inspection the process is quite different. The main differences are time, public interaction and expected value.

MMO take a seriously long amount of time to develop, stupidly long amounts of time and i GUESS this seriously worries developers. With designing a standard game you can go in with a clear game design, which is either forward thinking and cutting edge OR a collection of the current in vogue gaming trends. You get the idea, you build it and you release it all in a short time in comparrison to an MMO. With MMO's you can go in with a clear design in mind but then time goes to work and you lose some or all of it. What is revoluntionary or even just standards in the world of MMO's can in a 4 to 5 year development cycle become very old news. The fact that MMO inovation races along at the pace of a tortoise is immaterial to a company who has invested vast amounts of money into the game and the fear that they will lose all their money by releasing not only a dog of a game but worse an old fashioned dog of a game can grow very large in their minds.

So how does the company protect it's money? Typically they make the design as broadly appealing as possible (hence 50 million WOW clones) AND they go with a flexible design process and involve the customers in it as soon as possible. No this isn't the only reason to involve the public in the development cycle, but i'm focusing on what i see are as the problems.

The joke goes ..... what do you call a horse designed by a committee .... A Camel! The MM of MMO's is quite the problem in so much that the player's testing the game HAVE to be able to communicate with one another because that is a basic function of an MMO. Unlike a single player game when you CAN send a 100 different copies to playertesters and get back individual results. Yes the companies will probably run a forum for those single player game testers to communicate .... but it dosn't HAVE to. But MMO's can't do that. Now put a 1000 playtesters in a forum and you'll get 1001 different reasons why the game sucks and 3001 ways to make it better. But what is worse once a player has given his/her opinion you cannot ignore them or else the company quickly gets a bad rep. You can't listen to all of them because a) it would take so many staff members to sort through and address them and b) you'd get a camel. So you end up ignoring those you can, and addressing those you can't avoid and hopefully it won't corrupt the base game design.

Now all those opinions wouldn't be half as bad if it wasn't for the expected value of a game. No no not the accets of the company, the wages paid, the money wrung from investers or any of that side of game development which we as players really couldn't care less about. I'm talking about the expected value of the game to us as players. Lets be honest typically if we play an MMO for a year we have bought a standard game 4 or 5 times over. Now thankfully the players are intelligent enough to realise they can't expect 4 or 5 standrad games worth of game play but they do expect more of the game that a standard game.

Normal non-MMO games are typically FnF (Fire and Forget) affairs, you pay your money once, you play the game, you love it or hate it and soon after you put it on a shelf to gather dust. MMO's are FnR (Fire and Regret) you pay your money, you play the game, you love it or hate it, you pay some more money, you beging to regret what you cannot do in the game, you pay some more money, you hate it more ... you stop paying the money.

Now players aren't daft (despite the overwhelming number of posts on an overwhelming number of forums) and realise this is what happens and they don't like it, BUT the expectation is that eventually that find a game that will be their BFF (i wonder how many more pointless acronyms i can get into this?) and that they never have to play another game and that the MMO will satisfy there gamer and soical needs forever.

So what we have is a clear game design which attracts large amount of interest from players whose expectations havn't been met elsewhere but who see this game as having a realistic chance of fulfilling those needs. However over the long development process, the design can be corrupted by people who's expectations for the game are not the same as yours. So that for many people the game play experience and their expectations grow further apart as the game develops.

Now with a standard game you get excited as the rumor mill gets going, you read the previews and drool, you read the reviews and decide to buy the game in a near frenzy of excitment and 2 months later you start the process all over again with the next game.

With MMO's the excitment is building and building and building for years, you can have an active part in the games development and when you start to feel the pangs of dissapointment as the game dosn't go the way you feel it should you cling to the belief that if you just shout loud enough you can change the entire thing for the better [/MAIN POINT] and some of these people firmly hold the belief that they know best and will do or say anything which gives their point validity and when that fails they will simply destroy other peoples views in whatever way they can [/MAIN POINT]

One last anaology for the road, look at it like this. You have had a not-so-secret crush on someone and eventually you get the nerve up to ask them out. They laugh at you, your crushed and then the bitterness starts.

Finally the disclaimer, this is all presented as my OPINION and not as FACT so i will not be linking websites to substanciate my claims. Also this 'model' dosn't apply to all game players, in fact i think if you look closely at the gamer community you may find 1 or even 2 people, in the over 100 million+ that play video games, who don't conform to this generalisation, however that dosn't detract from it's validity in any way, shape or form. And lastly i MAY have said things in such as way as the intent was humorous and while i fully accept that my sense of humor and yours are incompatible, also hope that you will do the same and not bitch like a suck pig about some minor aspect of my RANT.
 

Trucidation writes:

 

This is mostly tangential to your post.

 As a programmer, the mostly shoddy implementations of PvP - I point my finger at the korean f2p games mostly here - annoy me. "Open PvP" is nothing more than pure developer laziness. "Oh hey guys, let's allow players to damage each other! Instant pvp lololol!!!" And this is exactly why I hate open pvp, aka gankfests. Sure, griefers and stupid people are a problem, but they're PART of the problem. The main problem is the lazy devs who can't be arsed to create proper factions, or arenas... complete with tournaments, ladders, ranks, rewards, titles, etc etc.

This is also why i hate the term "carebear". I want to play the game without some mindless little shit coming along and trying to poke his tiny epenis at me. That's not carebear, that's fucking getting what I paid for. I didn't pay for some asshole to get in my face. I paid for entertainment, if I wanted to PvP i'd go over to the pvp areas or the arena -- oh wait, those don't exist, the entire world is pvp because the stupid developers couldn't be arsed to code in additional rules other than "players can damage each other". I'm a programmer, I should know.

I actually like PvP if done properly. Realm vs realm, guild vs guild, defending territory, tournaments, contests... there's a bajillion options out there, and yet people still want to defend open random pk. That's fucking dumb. No wonder developers are still creating lazy pvp models like this, is because you retards are content with crap. If you guys keep putting up with shit pvp then you'll keep getting shit pvp. Stop playing their goddamn stupid games if you want better games.

Atlantica Online proved you can force people to be nice and it works. Even if you're a bastard you had to be nice once in a while because otherwise you wouldn't get any stamina, unless you only play like 1-2 hours a day anyway. Open pk on the other hand is practically an invitation for griefers and whiners to come onboard and sink your game. No wonder games like those have forums filled with drama and epenis waving. No shit, Sherlock - build a crap game, get crap players.

 

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