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Author: Limitations

Pathfinder Online: It's Not Pretty[P1]

Posted by Limitations Sunday May 3 2015 at 10:51PM
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Uhh, I don’t actually don’t know where to start on this one… The title really says it all, but in my normal fashion, I will give you what I have seen so far, and played so far. It’s not pretty at all.For starters, I do like the PnP version of Pathfinder, and I have told many of you before I used to DM for my PnP D&D group a long time ago for a long time. When I heard there would be an MMO version of Pathfinder I got kind of excited, but then… I started reading all about what it’s about. The game is a very, very alpha state, now normally that wouldn’t be a bad thing right? They are charging a monthly fee, the standard rate of 15$ to play the Alpha!

Isn’t that kind of odd? I play a monthly fee for completed games, with little bugs, and lots of content. I don’t want to play a monthly fee for an “Alpha” state game. I got into Alpha by paying the 30$ to get in, and got a free month like most games offer, and I wanted to see what this is all about. I make my character with minimal features for character creation, and step into the world, and that’s when the horror started. I know that sounds really, really harsh but that’s just how it was.

I know the game is in Alpha, and yada yada, but the animations… Dear God the animations were atrocious. I’ve seen some bad games before, but this really tops the list of awful animations. Before I get into that more, I want to talk about something else. The game offers a tutorial, that really doesn’t give a lot of information, and I couldn’t even complete the darn thing. It bugged out on me multiple times, and the few people that were responsive to me, told me to re-log and that should fix the problem. No problemo, but no… It didn’t fix it. I made a new character, tried it all over again and yet I couldn’t even get past the tutorial.
 

I filed a bug report to help out, and was given the response “The stuff you get from it, you don’t really need.” Gee, thanks. First impressions are everything right? Well in this case, it started out the worst of the worst. “Give it a break Josh, it’s in Alpha state.” Agreed, but if I’m going to be paying monthly for this game, can I at least get past the darn tutorial and get my reward? Nope, I have to stick it out, and just deal with it.

Okay, let’s go into more detail about the animations that were atrocious. The running animation literally made my eyes bleed… Okay it wasn’t that bad, but you get the point. Combat was very sluggish, and I felt like my character would just limp and even though my character was holding a weapon, it would bug out and just show his arms. I can get over all of this, since it’s a work in progress. In time those can be iron’d out and make it look better. The thing that gets me the most is, they expect me to pay a monthly fee for this. (You will hear me say this a lot).

You can get into this game now with the thirty dollar special they have now. That like I said gives you a month free and all sorts of stuff. Though, the CEO of Goblinworks, the people who develop the game, Ryan Dancey has told his community, that they are not doing enough to bring new people in. So, I’m going to dedicate this next portion of the post to Ryan directly, because this makes me a little upset.
 

I don’t mind that you said that, but disturbs me the most is that you really think I’m going to go out to the public, and say “Hey, for 30$ and a monthly fee, you can try out a game that’s in alpha state, and is constantly improving itself over time!” People are not going to buy that, not in this day of online gaming. I have a hard time getting my friends to try polished games, but you are going to sit there and tell the players they aren’t doing enough? I’m sorry, but that’s just not how it works. Isn’t it your job, your company’s job to get new people flowing in? I’m pretty sure you’d get a ton of people just by dropping the sub. Thirty dollars isn’t bad for me, but that monthly sub is what will kill you.

You may argue that the game has a ton of potential, which it may have, you may have a ton of arguments to make, which is all fine. I’m not looking to start anything, I’m just asking you to look at reality, and maybe change up somethings. I know bills have to be paid, employees have to be paid, but this won’t last in the long run, and you need to think about that. You may have future plans for the game, but dear God, it doesn’t look pretty. I want a clear justification to why the sub fee to what I can clearly say that it is not worthy of one. I don’t expect a response, but in all honesty… You make me worried about the future of gaming. Sorry Sir, but that’s just how I feel.

I know that’s all harsh, but I dunno, maybe that’s all not needed but I just wanted to get it all out. I’ll continue to play the game, and see what happens down the road, but for now… This is all I really have to say folks… Cheers
xerax writes:

I am a long time PnP Gamer, have played MMOs, still play Never Winter Nights 2 on various player owned persistent worlds (D&D 3.5 where pathfinder is D&D 3.75) and monthly sub is my preferred payment model.

Pathfinder should be something that gets me really excited.

But even though I am sold on the concept the current execution and early money grab leave me with little faith. Let me spell it out:

I am not going to pay a monthly fee until its is a top of the line product. $14.99 the kind of fee charged by AAA products when they are complete and alot is expected for that fee.

I may pay $30.00 or even $50.00 for an early access product that is of a good quality and I believe is going to be completed to a good standard.

Asking players to hook in more people to your currently Alpha makes me suspect you are in financial trouble and that the game my not get finished. Again this will just make me stay away.

A number of reviewers have been very unimpressed by your work so far. Again not a good sign. Makes me want to stay away.

I have seen nothing that makes this look better than Never Winter Nights 2, $20 or less buy to play at Good old Games with 10+ player run worlds with actual DMs etc. A little dated but not as dated and the screenshots I have seen for Pathfinder

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Caldicot writes: They way the passive skill system work I guess they need the sub after their last reset. But yeah, the game is rubbish. Fri May 08 2015 12:39AM Report
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