The List: Five Games We Want to Know More About
MMORPG.com's Bill Murphy is at it again with this week's The List column. This time, Bill talks about five games he feels we all want to know more about. Did your favorite game make the cut? Find out by reading The List.
Column By William Murphy on August 03, 2010
It’s easy in this generation of immense marketing hype to find yourself focusing on one or two games that are on the horizon. Maybe it’s money, or just the brand name of an IP or developer, that dictates which titles are given the most attention. For instance those of us who follow MMORPGs probably already know a great deal about BioWare’s The Old Republic even though the game’s probably around six months from release, or that Blizzard’s Cataclysm expansion for World of Warcraft will be adding five levels to the game while reworking many of the old world zones.
These high profile games are great for the industry in that they attract a lot of mainstream gaming attention, but bad in that they tend to swallow up a lot of the smaller titles in their wake. These lesser talked about games may be pushing out plenty of information (or in some cases maybe not), but due to any number of reasons it seems as though you rarely hear much about them… and we wish that wasn’t the case. Though assuredly many of the following titles are just quiet because there’s not a lot set in stone yet, that doesn’t mean we can’t wonder what’s to come. In the interest of giving the little guys more of a spotlight, here’s a list of games we wish we knew more about and why.
Have your own thoughts on the titles listed below, or think we missed a few games at that? Let us know by leaving a comment!
5.) Copernicus
This isn’t exactly a small project. Some extremely big names are tied to Curt Schilling’s 38 Studios, not the least of which are creative masterminds like R.A. Salvatore and Todd McFarlane. When three big names like this, not exactly known for their ties to gaming, band together and begin work on an epic MMORPG it’s hard not to take notice with piqued interest and not a small hint of trepidation. We’re beginning to see the shape of their MMO form in the single-player RPG Kingdoms of Amalure: Reckoning. Though perhaps a tad cliché at first glimpse, it would be unwise to write off an epic RPG experience led by the creator of Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. KoA: Reckoning should set the tone and scope of the MMO, so players interested in seeing what kind of MMORPG Curt Schilling and his mercenary team of developers can come up with should keep an eye on the upcoming 2011 release. The fantasy theme may be well represented in the genre, but it can always be improved upon, and there’s no doubt that this is what 38 Studios is hoping to do.
4.) Jumpgate Evolution
JGE went dark not long ago when the title missed its original intended release date and much of the game underwent significant reworking. As Scott Brown told us, the game just wasn’t quite where they wanted it to be and they wisely decided to err on the side of caution and go dark for a while, giving the team time to collect their thoughts and approach the design from a different angle. Now with a distinct focus on three-faction warfare, massive battles, and an ever-changing landscape (space-scape?), JGE is once again making its way towards release. And yet, there’s still plenty left to be discovered about how this Wind Commander-esque title will play. How much emphasis will there be on PvE and PvP? What about crafting? How will the economy work with the three factions? With a beta expected to ramp up this fall, I’m sure it won’t be long until a lot of these questions and more are answered.
3.) Undead Labs’ Zombie MMO
With one of the more curious projects on the horizon, Undead Labs is a studio that was formed precisely to create a persistent online MMO for consoles that’s all about surviving the zombie apocalypse. There’s little to no details yet released about the studios Zombie MMO, but the team isn’t completely inactive when it comes to posting on their website. In a June post, one of the developers goes to great lengths to discuss how his team will dispel the theory that a console MMO can’t really work and cleverly (or heavy-handedly I suppose) uses the “strikethrough” to show that people once said the same things about console FPS games just ten years ago. In the post we’re told that there will be a real focus on hand-to-hand combat (chainsaws, crowbars, etc.), destructible environments, vehicular combat, freedom of movement, and of course social tools for the players. But these serve as a sort of bullet-list of things one should hope to expect in a post L4D or Dead Rising gaming world. What will really be interesting is when Undead Labs starts showing us just how their game is coming together, and how it will work as a persistent online offering.
2.) Red 5 Studios’ Untitled MMO
Red 5 Studios, who was recently bought by Chinese developer and online game operator The9, has been kicking around for a couple of years now, quietly developing their first MMORPG. And that’s actually about all we know. Back in 2007 the newly founded company even hunted down blogger Tobold to discuss possible job opportunities. But other than some vague concept art, all we know is that the guys and gals are working on an MMORPG that will reportedly be in some ways both action-oriented and geared towards a more casual playerbase. That basically means it could be anything, if you ask me. But if their homepage is to be believed, I’m sure we’ll finally know a little something more about their mysterious project in just about month when they show up at PAX in September.
1.) Warhammer 40K Online: Dark Millennium
Vigil Games, makers of the excellent Zelda-like Darksiders, finally gave gamers something to drool over at this year’s E3 when they showed the first footage of their Warhammer 40,000 MMO, Dark Millennium. From the footage, one can deduce that there will be a heavy focus on gunplay, cover and flanking mechanics, and that organized groups should do well in PvP. We know that both the Order and Destruction sides are represented, and that there will obviously be a huge slant towards competitive gameplay. But developers also stated that the usual MMO trappings will be present, such as NPCs, cities, an economy, and so on and so forth. And while that’s all well and good, there was little revealed about how the game will actually play. Vigil Games will be making a serious appearance at Gamescom in Germany soon, however… and maybe then we’ll get some real meat on this dark and gruesome MMO.
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UM....might want to change the title to "5 games I want to know more about"
I agree with Tsnow. As I can care less about numbers 3 and 2. They could be replaced, for me at least, with The Secret World and World of Darkness.
Actually I would like to know if World of Darkness and Outland are even still in development. At least 3 of the games on your list we know something about. These 2? Nada.
As for the games I know ARE in development, but I want more info on, The Secret World is at the top of the list. I have wanted a horror MMO for years, so I'm crossing my fingers for this one and trying to overlook Funcom's MMO history.
lmao I thought exactly the same thing. Couldnt give a flying damn about any of the games in that list tbh.
Only MMO registering with me right now is Rift: Planes of Telara. EQ2 is more then good enough until then :)
Actualy i want to know more about Black Prophecy not about jump gate evo...
i also wanna know who (IF) gonna bring C9 to the west =x
made me chuckle ;)
World Of Darkness should have been in there, and in the top 2. Arguably that is the game that the developers are beeing the most tight liped about. As of this moment we really do not know that much about it. Less so than anything mentioned in this list.
Yeah I dont care to learn anything about those games.
TERA, Secret World, World of Darkness? Only one worth my time reading about on that list is W40K.
I want to know more about:
Archage
Blizzard's Unannounced MMO
Richard Garriotts next "Lord British" game - He hinted in a recent interview that it may be in "UO's niche". Woot!
World of Darkness Online is very much missing from this list. I'm personally far, far, far more interested in news on that than any of the games listed above (least of all anything Warhammer related)
Yep... As others have said, personally "I" would like to know more about The Secret World and World of Darkness.
I gotta admit I never thought I would be but I'm a bit weary of the generic fantasy model of MMO's these days. I would love a Fallout or a quality post apocalyptic MMO.
only games on the radar I care about at all right now are 40k, World of Darkness and Secret World, and not exactly in that order.
The only one that I know anything about is the warhammer, the rest who knows. Im not into a zombie mmo, i play left 4 dead now and then and thats enough zombies for me.
Jumpgate evolution from what I've seen has gone PvP centric, which as far as I'm concerned takes it off my list of future games. Its too bad, as the original concepts looked quite enjoyable. I hope they enjoy their status as a niche game, which is what PvP centric games tend to be in the western markets.
I'd be VERY interested in learning more about Blizzards plan for their next MMO. But as it stands, it seems that very few people have that information.
World of Darkness (CCP) (also known as Vampires in SPAAAACE!! ^^) sounds like fun, but very little is known about it. Given CCP's background it may be PvP centric. Only time will tell.
Dust 514 looks like its going to be fun, but how it will integrate with EVE remains to be seen.
Super interested in Jumpgate Evolution, looks like a good mix of PvP and PvE with a strong FvFvF focus for endgame.
I'm surprised The Secret World and Earthrise didn't make it on your list.
5) Definatly interested
4) Don't care
3) Don't care
2) Don't care
Nope sorry. Your number 1 choice is completly wrong. Even though we only have one short teaser trailer and a few paragraphs on a web site to go by, the experts on the MMORPG.com forums have already concluded that Warhammer 40000 Dark Millennium will be made of fail.
I hear some of them even paused long enough to wipe the Cheetos ™ dust off their pudgy fingers before typing out their opinion. You can't argue with hard-nosed investigative journalists such as these.
warhammer 40k dark millenium, there was nothing dark or warhammer 40k about that trailer (
World of Darkness should definitely have been on that list, probably at the top.
I agree with Copernicus, but almost nothing else on that list.
agreed good point that :)
These are the only four I'm interested in
4.Copernicus
3.The secret World
2.WAR40K
1.World of Darkness
I was hoping to see World of Darkness on this list and I'm glad most of the other respondents agree with that. What a huge oversight.
+1. And LOL!
Damn you guys are quick to condemn. I might not care about all the games on the list, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna attack the columnist.
Did you ever think that the author may have talked it over with his co-workers, friends, family, etc. and come up with this list? In that case, his use of the term "we" is perfectly legitimate.
Think of it this way: How could any writer ever write an article called "5 Games You Want To Know More About" and please everyone? Simple answer - he can't.
You guys need to get over yourselves and grow up.
on that list I only want to know a little more about is warhammer 40k, other then that is secret world, and I don't hype games I let first then come out let it pass a month or 2 then I think if the game is good enough or no
Too much blog mentality going around now. People are just reading press releases and twitter and copying to their site. If I had MMO news credentials Id be bugging these devs constantly getting updates. Dont know if it would work, but I assume they want to market their product. Anyway, its just what journalists do. Make contacts, chase leads, write stories. Not write stories on what they would like to know. Sorry, OP, Im not trying to be mean. Id like to know about these games also, but its not my job to find out.
Copernicus looks conceptually nice.
A zombie MMO, give me a break, what world are you living in? I mean come on, from a no name studio? If you have to have a zombie MMO, I am sure the one Funcom is working on, Secret World, will be far better.
Then you had to put Warhammer in there too, I don't see that as being a major, the studio making it has no experience in MMO's nor have they had much of anything in the way of hits. They could surprise, but the odds are against them.
You did miss one major one, CCP's World of Darkness, if that is not on your horizon you have to be in la la land.
If you write on a public forum to educate and inform the public, you should be doing ina manner that is helpful for the public. It seems from the responses in this thread that the write did a poor job of knowing what his readers would like to read about. Furthermore, beyond the title there was nothing there. We know that there are five games that the writer wanted to know about and wanted to let us know he wanted to know about, but he didnt tell us anything new about any of them. As the first responded stated, use your credentials and go find something out and inform us. As for the list, World of Darkness and The Secret World are on my "I would like to know more about" games as well.
Why is *I* am only interested in one of these? Warhammer40k
I don't understand - are zombies not cool anymore? I've been hoping for a zombie MMO ever since I saw Night of the Living Dead for the first time, so I'm actually kind of happy this got some mention. I realize the studio hasn't released much information at all, but I'm glad just knowing this could possibly exist one day, regardless. Also, I'd like to mention that after reading over the Secret World wiki, I don't see anything that makes me believe it's an MMO that's centered solely around a zombie apocalypse, which is certainly different. I don't want supernatural heroes and villains, or a collection of pop culture references, and some relation to urban legends tied into a backstory. I don't want an MMO about fighting dark entities, or a collection of fantasty creatures that are evil in origin, but rather a virtual world set in some manner relatable to our own reality, that is centered around the dead coming to life and eating their neighbors. Human characters, with a persitant feel of uncertainty, fear, and survival in a hostile and unforgiving environment.
Survival horror in an MMO? That would be fucking awesome.
lol, these articles always get such a beating. Should probably not do them anymore.
Any why am I the only one who mentions TERA? Am I the only one who can recognize great potential when I see one? :p
Shame on all of you!!!
I for one commend you guys for writing these articles that someone is always trying to pick apart for who knows what reason. As far as the list goes though I have to agree with some of the opposition. I could care less about Shillings game he is a big mouth tool who due to his baseball career and penchant at always thinking someone cares what he thinks I will avoid anything from his studios even with two of my favorite artists working on it in McFarlane and Salvatore. The mouht of beantown will not get a red cent from me mmo or not. I didn't play the original Jumpgate but have to admit the sequal has intrigued me some. Zombies have always struck me as a campy and corny subject that can far too often go one way or the next (I might be able to deal with it in a truly horrific sense) but far too often people will add silly humor to the equation and if I would list any horror themed game it would probably be The Secret World as opposed to a game strictly about zombies. The Red Studios mmo is what I have the biggest objection with there is far too little info about it to care, I'm not even sure who this company is that we should care so much about what they are making. This kind of thought process is exatly why we as mmo players are so often duped by incompetent and unscrupulous devs. Warhammer 40k while not something I ever played or took interest in I can atleast see a reason for it's inclusion in the list as well as even it's place at number one in comparison to the rest of this list. while I'm on the subject any one familiar know if Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are the same game world just different time lines?
If I made this list I think it would be Warhammer 40k,Giuld Wars2,Star Wars The Old Republic,The Secret World, and maybe Final Fantasy XIV because they simply do rank as the games we as a community want to know the most about, there is obviously debate as some would say they constitute the most well known and anticipated but none the less we still all want to know more about them and how they are going to play.
I have to atleast agree I was very intrigued once I read the title, and that is the only reason I read those lists I don't read them all. But once I entered and read the list it was a pretty big let down because it could have been used to sum up the games that people want to know about that are going to be out in a year or two and it has a game that may not even exist, one that isn't an mmo as far as I know and one that could hardly be the best of the bunch in it's own sub genre (the zombie mmo). I hope MMORPG doesn't look at this really in a negative light from me just what I felt upon seeing the list. I can say the writer either has done some research on these games or actually have an interest in them but I just don't see these games having a blip on the radar of this community.
Grammar and spelling fails are becoming too common on MMORPG.com. Come on guys, get spell check. This isn't the dark ages.
insanex
LMFAO I Know really I thott they was going to have some Real MMORPGs on there list. I Think the Title Change. The 5 MMO's That no one wants to know anything about,BUT My Boss told me I had to write this Story. I Lose the Straw Pull. ;-( I got the Short one. A Long title but at least it would be truthful.
Wow been a long time since we got a Real good Lord British Game. UO wasn't really Super but of Corse it came out a Long time ago I myself Enjoy all his Pre UO Played and Beat them all. I Know I'm showing my AGE ;-P
Ah, people failing so horribly at reading comprehension is so amusing sometimes. Am I about the only who noticed that he specifically said in the article that this is about wanting to know more info on games we dont hear much of anything about and/or arent talked about much publicly at all? It was not an article about "We want more info on the most popular and already very much talked about games"
People keep saying stuff like "waaaaah Tera/Rift/wtfever game that ha sbeen talked about constantly for the past couple months should have been on the list" completely ignoring the fact that it's the exact opposite of what the article was about.
Earthrise is one I want to know more about since no real updates have been out there for a while now. Also some more info on Rifts and Tera would be welcome as well.
I'll grant you the games you've listed have been talked about a lot. What about The Secret World? I've seen all of one "semi-in game" video and two CG videos and that's about it. That one counts as "not talked about and want to know more."
40K heck yeah I want to know more, but at the same time I just know they're going to mess it up. Seriously how the heck do you balance a game? The source isn't based on single players but SQUADS. I would have prefered every player be a squad, so the Space Marine Tactical Squad of five guys would be equal to say 10 orc choppas. But no we'll all be single people running around doing crazy stuff. (Though crazy stuff is cool sometimes.)
I do not want another Warhammer Online! PLEASE NO!
I have to agree with most of the others concerning this list. WOD is the one game I am interested in that so little info is out there on.
2. Copernicus
1. World of Darkness Online
Didn't put Rift:Planes of Telara on there as we are getting a steady stream of information out of those guys. Well, those of us following it anyway. This site isn't always posting it, lol.
Other than that not real interested in any of the other titles in Bill's list or that are in development for that matter. Well, I do enjoy World of Tanks, lol.
lol yes thats excatly what i was going to say but you said it for me so thanx.
Wow, no World of Darkness Online? That's my #1 I want to know more about. I think a vampire game that isn't that crap twilight sounds awesome! Especially coming from white wolf and the makers of EVE.
All I know is the White Wolf WOD MMO will NOT be Old WoD. It will be New World of Darkness, specifically Requiem. So no Masquerade clans for us. No Tremere for example or my favorite bloodline, the Gargoyles.
Blizzards unannounced MMO would top my list, followed closely by WAR40K, or maybe vice versa... but Blizzards project is certainly the least uncovered of the two.
See guys, this is why every article comes with a forum thread, so that you can whine and complain that "MAH MMO NOT ON LIST DIG GUY R NOOB!"
I agree with WAR40k, but couldn't really care less about the rest. Still, I'd never even heard of the zombie MMO, and knew very little about Copernicus, so this article educated me. Thanks.
5. EverQuest Next
4. New Blizzard MMO
3. World of Darkness
2. Copernicus
1. Warhammer 40k
Add these to the list (keep Copernicus):
-Fallout Online
-Blade and Soul
-ArchAge
Heh I don't care about *any* of those. I'd only be mildly interested in #5 because I like Curt Schilling.
Agreed, world of darkness has such little info about it considering it's been kicking about for what.. 4 years now? Since CCP acquired the IP. Shame it's the new WoD as I know nothing about it, just fond memories of the old stuff from when I was a kid.
I'd say Blade and Soul. Not sure how you'd leave that out.
And honestly, I could care less about ANOTHER Warhammer title.
Besides we already know all we need to know about it; they are targeting WoW fans... they pretty much said that recently in an interview, lol.
Agreed, it tops my list.
Only Copernicus have some interest of the 5 mentioned games. And if you would put up a vote I doubt the list we would vote as the 5 top games would include more than 1-3 of the games on the list, so the we is a bit optimistic.
Who? What is his position at the company? For instance, it'd be worse if the lead designer said that rather than a PR monkey.
Does it matter? He was speaking on BEHALF of the company in that interview which is pretty plain.
I doubt they'd let him say all those things if it wasn't a corporate philosphy already.
They also could have contacted the interviewer and said they'd like to retract some things or that this was just his "personal" view and not the company.
Or they could have said he was just flat drunk and didn't know what he was saying.
They didnt do that either.
Finally:
Hmmm 5 boring choices. . but an effort nevertheless.
This was an excellent article. I love to hear about future MMOs that either I haven't already heard about, or just don't seem to have much information out there.
Copernicus sounds very interesting to me, considering they have RA Salvatore writing for it, but the most interesting one to me is by far Jumpgate Evolution. I frequent their forums and look for tidbits of information about when it will finally become available. It is sounding more and more awesome all the time. A company who basically scraps a game that is almost ready for launch based on their closed beta test and rebuilds it from scratch is a company that is SERIOUS about making their MMO good. I sort of wonder how they can afford to be in perpetual development, though. In the words of Casey Schreiner from the weekly MMO Report who has apparently played the new closed beta, "This game is F-ing awesome."
Reading comprehension isn't the problem as much as not being told who "we" are in the article, since it's on mmorpg one can only assume he means we the mmorpg community and even if one dismisses my notion that some of the most popular yet not in beta games should be on the list it doesn't change the fact that I've read about more than five games that universally made mmorpg community members list while the article speaks about products so vague some of them we don't even know if they really exist. Do you guys remember a few years back folks started shopping around those night elf photos of the supposedly WOW2? Well atleast one of these games on the authors list is about as real as those shopped photos were and if he was still going to ignore the games that a majority of the community wanted to know about he could have atleast talked about some of the games that more community members wanted to know about like The Secret World,World of Darkness and others that have just as little known about them but they are atleast mmo's, and are known to be in development not just talked about.
You may actually agree with most of the list which would only make me acknowledge you have a much greater interest in games than I or most of the others who read the article because at the end of the day most of us couldn't care a whit about more than one game on his list. Since it was wrote for us then it certainly shouldn't disappoint us right or wrong.
Except we also know that Order and Destruction do not exist in WH40K and those terms are quite meaningless! :|
Personally I'd drop Jump Gate and zombie, and substitute Blade & Soul and World of Darkness. to be something like:
5. Red 5's untitled fantasy mmo
4.Blade & Soul
3.Copernicus
2.Warhammer 40k
1.World of Darkness.
As a lifelong Redsox fan I will happily buy Schilling's Copernicus. Hell I'll even pay double what he asks:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/6948862/
Definitely not a stellar Top 5.
Sure 40k could have promise and Copernicus has us wondering, but the other 3 are no where near my top 5.
The Secret World, Fallout Online and Blizzard's unannounced title are all more intriguing than these choices.
Copernicus is the one that I want to know most about. R.A. Salvatore is one of my favorite authors, and with the makers of Elders Scrolls, and Oblivion, ugh mouth watering. Can't get better than that.
I agree 40K was the only on the list that I want to see more info about as for 5,4,3, and 2 you can set a match to those and no one would care or remember in a month, it's just more mmo trash games in the works.
The only correct five for this list are:
5. Infinity
4. EverQuest Next
3. The Secret World
2. Outland
1. World of Darkness
Please fix it.
Copernicus and World of Darkness - a announcement for EQ next would be exciting too. Need more MMO news!
The only way this article was going to satisfy half the people on these forums was if it was a "250 games we want to know more about".
The author picked 5 that probably are garnering a fair bit of interest in the MMO world, not just due to the IP (or original idea) but due to (I imagine) other factors, such as how gameplay in a Zombie MMO would work etc.
Yes you can cry about WOD all you like, but the fact is that it's already got lots of attention and speculation surrounding it, so arguably doesn't need adding to this list.
We've all got our own games we're desperate to hear about, but just because the author didn't pick "your" game doesn't make his list any less valid. You may be surprised to learn that there's probably as many people out there that couldn't give a shit about news on "your" game as there are desperately searching for scraps of info on it.
I second this big time. I keep seeing C9 videos and they look awesome. Instanced or not, it looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
When is someone gonna bring this game to North America?
I personally would love to know more about WOD ( World of Darkness). The potential in expansion, and long term play is overwhelming. One of the biggest pen, and paper rpgs of all tim,e as well as being a huge stage for LARP. From hedge wizards, Mages,Mummies, Fomori, Changelings, the best Vampires, and Werewolves bar none ,with hundreds of books to back in history ,and lore, as well as mechanics to go with them. White wolf created a masterpiece that would be an awesome translation to an MMORPG , not to mention a long awaited breath of fresh air. Let me know what you think if anyone else is familliar with the setting. Maybe even some ideas.
Farstryder
1.Archage, even though Id never play it on a western server.
2.Untitled Carbine Studio MMO
3.World of Darkness
4.Copernicus
5.Jumpgate, to watch how it turns out as an MMO.
FYI jumpgate has been dark for AGES not (not long ago).
Also no crafting, no hauling, no mining and no economy, its nothing more than a space combat game now, nothing more than global agenda in space.
Shouldn't this article be called, The Five Most Obscure Games?
To be honest, none of them interests me. There's only one I'm watching right now, and that's the The Secret World.
I'm waiting for Undead labs zombie mmo and Warhammer 40K mmo. I hope we get to hear more about these 2 soon.
Who is this WE you are talking about, because I dont give a darn about any of those 5 games.
W o D
W o D
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When this article came out I checked up on Undead labs because I never heard of them or the game before. The entire staff is made of up of a bunch of unknowns, at least to me. Not to say that they could pull a rabbit out of the hat on the first try, but the odds are against it. Now Secret World has Zombies and is being made by someone with significant experience in this genre. You might want to anticipate that game, it actually has a decent chance of being good.
I just did not understand how the original author could pick the rabbit out of the hat trick over WOD or even Secret World. When the author used the word "We" instead of "I" he put a target on his back and invited criticism of his choices. If you are going to pick something like he did way out in left field, he had better define his reasoning which I found entirely lacking.
Note Bilzzard is also working on a MMO project that I would bet all of us would be highly interested in.
I kinda understand where you're coming from, but after doing research on the Secret World wiki: sure, it's got zombies. WoW also has zombies, as does almost any other MMO. What people like me are looking for is a zombie apocalypse MMO, which Secret World is not. My understanding is that Undead Labs is actually working on a survival horror game. So, I see where you're coming from, but there's a big difference to a game having zombies, and a game being about an apocalypse, prompted by the return of the dead to life.
Here's a quote from their website:
"Why zombies? Because zombies offer the perfect blend of humor and horror, and living out our post-societal-collapse survivalist fantasies sounds like a blast. We’ve all watched zombie movies and thought, “What would I do?” Play a good MMOZ and find out!"
5 games i currently have no interest in..
It is clear that about half of you to about 2/3 of you aren't reading the entire article, but instead are skimming over the list and then posting about how terrible the author's choices are.
The list was meant to be games that aren't necessarily huge A-list titles that everyone knows about, but lesser known games by lesser known companies. As such, not many of these titles are likely to be on everyone's top 5 most anticipated list. That was the whole point of the article. For those of you who posted such remarks, your comments are more of a reflection on your limited attention span and reading comprehension than on the author's game choices.
Agree except there is nothing small about Warhammer 40 k or the backing it has, I would also mention the collaberation of salvatore,Mcfarlane and company pretty huge. Your point is taken though . I forgot to mention in earlier post that I am also looking forward to warhammer 40 k development and Copernicus has potential with the makers.
Wind Commander???
its WinG Commander.
fallout MMO?
What the real problem is, is the title of the article. "Five Games We Want to Know More About."
The real title should have been, "5 Little Known Games Because These Games are not Interesting Enough to be Talked about Mainstream."
And sarcasm aside, TSW is much more anticipated and there is still little known about it. 40k is a huge market, especially after the release of WAR, so that doesnt fit the "little guy" theory. And Copernicus is not a small unknown game either, many people are talking about it, with Salvatore and McFarlane on it.
The red 5 Studios mmo seems to be interesting.
I'll keep an eye on it.
The real problems is, people get bent out of shape over the most ridiculous little detail. "Five games we want to know more about"... As if this is an issue at all. It most certainly doesn't warrant the backlash that it's receiving.
It's a title, the author was taking a guess at games some people may want to know more about, TSW, we know plenty about this game, SW:TOR again plenty of info floating around, Etc.....
The games listed here regardless of IP have been relatively under the radar for the most part.
I know the regular users of this site are often jaded and prone to fits of rage, but come off it now, sometimes those fits of rage are completely uncalled for.
5. whatever
4. whatever
3. whatever
2. whatever
1. whatever
mmorpg makers are greedy sons of bitches nowadays. Other than try to experiment and make something actually interesting, they clone and clone each other, adding a colorful ribbon each time just to get us pay for their piece of crap.
Same with non-mmo games, it all went down to money grinding schemes. Just look at those call of duty, medal of honour and battlefield... oh god, screw you all!
The only one listed I would like to know more about is Warhammer 40K. I used to enjoy the table game.
My personal list would be:
5. DCUO - ACTION COMBAT PEW PEW....that's about all I know so far...
4. SWTOR - Simply cuz there's some info, but I want a lot more
3. FALLOUT MMO
2. THE SECRET WORLD MMO
1. WORLD of DARKNESS - Really anticipating this one. Can't wait to see what CCP do with it.
This needs more of Blizzard's secret new MMO, The secret World and World of Darkness
World of Darkness. Nothing more needs to be said.
Do you know why? Because MMO's take millions upon millions (of other peoples money) to create. Thus the suits and investor types are quite risk adverse, and tend to stick with what has worked in the past. Thats why game evolution tends to be slow. Real revolution can be and is a career ender, if most of the variables don't align just right. Most people are simply not willing to take the risks involved. There are various formulas within games that have a demonstrated audience, look at most of the games on the list, and also most of those mentioned in the comments.
I agree 100%. There is very little innovation because the risk is too great. If you try to make a new game your choices are to stick with what has worked in the past or try to come up with something new which has very little chance of success, since players are already speaking with their wallets about which types of games they like.
Let's just say I am a developer and I say to my financial partners that I am developing an entirely new type of MMO. It will take almost nothing from existing MMOs but be completely new and revolutionary. They will probably be excited and cheer loudly. Now when I tell them that unfortunately, because of the very fact that we are making something completely new, the development costs are going to be astronomical, suddenly the cheering will stop. Next I tell them that in addition to that, because it's so new and isn't using a winning formula that there is a very good chance that instead of getting rich they will lose all of their money and have to move out of their villa and into their mom's basement, then they will start to trickle out the door. I will be lucky if I don't get hit in the eye by a flying donut as the angry investors flood the hallways out of the building.
Every forum that talks about MMOs is full of complaints about everything being a WoW clone and there being no innovation. Well, we, as the overall gaming community are giving huge amounts of money to games like WoW and ignoring many other titles, so what conclusion should developers come to when making a new game? As much as I want something new and different just like everyone else, if I were making a new game I would come to the same conclusion.
I, too, agree with the Carbine Studios MMO - they've been cooking something for over 5 years and it has Tim Cain as Design/Programming Director. mmm, rubs hands in anticipation!
~Ripper
Im glad to see a ton of peeps are interested in WoD :)
I want to know more about Zenimax Online's project. I still suspect that they were assuming they could wrangle the rights away from Interplay for Fallout Online... but that didn't pan out... thus no news from them.
Sadly, I'm not really interested in any of these titles.
(5). Copernicus
All respect to Curt Shilling and 38 Studios, but being that he is a fan of WOW (or based upon what I've read), this doesn't excite me much.
(4). Jumpgate Evolution
Not very creative, much more of an attempt of an Eve Clone. There are some difference, but not enough difference to warrant significant attention.
(3). Undead Labs' Zombie MMO
Meh, never been a fan of the Zombie craze.
(2). Red5 Studios' Untitled MMO
With their recent purchace by a Chinese company, I fear the development of this MMO will fall more to the typical Asian grindfest with micro-transactions.
(1). Warhammer 40K: Dark Millenium
Although the fiction of this IP is vast and highly interesting, upon things I've both read and heard, this title is being developed with far less investment capital, therefore corners are going to have to be cut. So, in the end a lack-luster MMO will be the result.
Although these are just my opinions, and for those of you who are looking forward to these titles I wish you all joy and happy times.
Weren't you Mad Murphy? The old man gamer?
Change the title: 5 Games no true-gamer cares about.
Haha. I like that title. Almost works too except for 40k, which if done right could be just the massive sci-fi mmo we need.
Well, I am mildly interested in hearing the progress on Jumpgate Evolution. The rest of that list? Meh... Warhammer 40K really looks like WoW reskinned in lore with rifles for wizards and chainsaw swords for warriors...
Your own site wants to know more about The Secret World, the only MMO I am dying to hear more info about.
You guys posted a "Let's hear your questions, dear readers..." request back in *APRIL* and have been stone silent since then... How about some follow through, people? You know, the hallmark of performance?
Tru dat. WoW itself is a clone, yet blizzard have managed to make more appealing to wide audience. And it wasnt franchise that made it successful (though it helped a lot) - just take a look at warhammer online. Warhammer universe is very popular, yet it was a failure. So being a clone of a successful game doesnt guarantee it to become a successful. And as an average player, why would I pay to play some WoW clone, when I can pay to play WoW, a polished, "balanced" game with a huge world and a huge playerbase.
So where lies the borders of innovativeness, risk-free and revolution?
Have to think more about this T_T
OH NOES! they said "we" in the article... "We" just have to include me! They lied!!!!!!
Chill out people...
[tags mister obvious]
You see people, there's a whole globe of men somewhere out there, and they all have opinions. Even more than that, most of the time those opinions differ.
And then theres miscommunication, trolls, turds...
[quickly cuts the microphone]
Thank you mister obvious, now with this crucial information you have related we can all hopefully settle down have a deep breath, stop the venting event and start doing something pleasant and/or productive.
Like.... REVOLUTION!!!
Hmm, I almost forgot it but "Elder Scrolls MMO", this one has been in the development oven some 6 years last I heard, and there was an accidental "cat out of the bag" a few months ago, which has since been squashed.
Actually, that game will not remotely be an EVE clone. EVE involves a living player-driven economy and massive player-driven combat in a huge universe.
Jumpgate Evolution will now apparently be a pew-pew combat game much like Black Prophecy. The big difference between those two now seems to be use of instancing.
for me it is
1) Torchlight mmo
2)Tera online
3) blad and soul
4) Warhammer 40k
5)...FF14
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!!
For those wondering why games like tera, GW2 ect.. are not on the list, its because there is already information about these games out there.Sure we maybe want more, but I think he is trying to imply games with very little information out there.
Like so many said tho , I am very curious about World of Darkness, and it also be nice to see what Blizzards new MMO is about.
Guild Wars 2, World of Darkness, Warhammer 40k (of course) and uhm... GUILD WARS 2!
Jeff Strain [Founder of Undead Labs] is a game programmer and one of the three founders of ArenaNet. He served ArenaNet and NCsoft as the leader of the Art and Production teams and President of Product Development respectively. He was previously the lead programmer of Blizzard's MMORPG World of Warcraft; he also created the StarCraft campaign editor and worked on Diablo and Warcraft III. He is credited as a programmer and executive producer for Guild Wars.
Uknown? K...
i only care for warhammer 40k info :S