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Real NameShane Cawthon
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    • CNN article on just who will get hurt by Obama's taxes
    • Originally posted by Cabe2323
      Originally posted by olddaddy
      Originally posted by Cabe2323

      Do you honestly believe the stuff you right?   

      Our founding fathers never intended the Government to Tax us.  That is apparent because they left taxation to each State.  They intended our government to be a collection of strong State Governments. 

      Example:

      Founding fathers intended us to be

      The united STATES of America

      What we are right now is:

      The UNITED states of AMERICA. 

      That was never the intent of our founding fathers or our Constitution.  We are supposed to be a collection of States not a strong Federal Government. 

      The Federal Government was never meant to tax and decide these types of things.  That was meant to be left up to the States.  Our founding fathers would die of heart attacks if they saw someone in NY paying taxes that were used for someone in New Mexico. 

      That is the very problem that they had when they founded this Great Nation. 

      Our Government today is the very epitome of Taxation without Representation.  I have no say if my Tax dollars get used in Pensacola, Florida, or heck even this Country for that matter. 

      The very fact that your tax dollars get taken and used in a different State then the one you live, a State that might very well be over 3,000 miles away, is exactly what our Founding fathers were upset about. 


       

      I'm going to make you an honorary Texan, because you have no idea about American History.

      Taxes were only one of many reasons leading up to the American Revolution.

      Our founding fathers believed in Federal taxes. The first Federal Tax was implimented shortly after the adoption of the US Constitution at the behest of Alexander Hamilton to pay for the Federal government's costs of the American War of Independance. You remember the American War of Independance, it wasn't a free war.

      The reason it is called a FEDERAL government is it is a FEDERALIST system. Not a CONFEDERATION of States. Thus, your emphasis is wrong, or we would have a Constitution of the Confederate States of America. We don't today because you lost. Git over it bubba.

      Our founding fathers would not die of heart atacks over taxes in NY being used to pay for something in New Mexico. George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, and "Lighthorse" Harry Lee personally commanded a Federalized militia and suppressed a Federal tax rebellion in Pennsylvania.  

      You do have representation over how your tax dollars are used. You have a local US representative, and two US Senators, who vote on spending bills. The original American colonies had no representative to send to Parliment, either in the House of Commons, or the House of Lords. That's what taxation without representation meant. It had nothing to do with where their money was spent.

       


       

      Nice try but my family was always on the winning side of the wars.  We won the Revolutionary war and we won the Civil War.   (I was born and raised in NY until High School, then I move to Florida with the rest of New Yorkers). 

      Hamilton believed in a Strong Central Government.  Thomas Jefferson and James Madison did not.  Jefferson believed in States Rights and a weak central government.  You remember that guy right?  You know the one that actually had a heck of a lot more to do with our Government then Hamilton. 

      The Whiskey Rebellion had nothing to do with actual taxation and all to do with Hamilton trying to increase the power of the Federal Government.  He wanted the Government to be able to tell people what to do and use force to make sure it happened. 

      The Whiskey Tax was repealed and was never actually very effective as a tax.  It wasn't ever really collected outside of Pennsylvania anyways.  And even Hamilton himself said it was more about social issues then actual Tax revenue. 

       

      Wrong! Madison was a supporter of a strong central government.

    • Posted: 10/27/08 8:04 PM
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    • Sony Wants You Playing MMOs on Your TV
    • Originally posted by x_rast_x
      Originally posted by xfrozenx
      Originally posted by Abrahmm
      Originally posted by tkreep
      Originally posted by Wharmaster

      Fuck Sony, and especially SOE.

      I wouldn't own a Sony product if it was given to me for free.


       

      The PS3 is awsome.

       

      lolconsoles.

       

      Consoles do not really belong in the mmorpg market. However, consoles rock when you're playing online against someone on a sports game. =) Consoles are fun when you get home from work and feel like playing a little madden.

       

      Consoles will be fine for MMOs in another generation or two, when everything is HD and they've moved beyond restrictive, simplistic controllers - both are already happening though.  Consoles siphon more genres from the PC with every generation as they become more capable.  When was the last time you played a platformer on your PC? 

      They still haven't managed to take shooters away from PCs and that's one of the biggest genres in consoles.
       

    • Posted: 10/23/08 12:55 AM
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