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• • Still skill-based mmorpg around?

  • Well said!

    What ever happened to having fun with your friends and meeting new people? Does it ALL have to be about new skills, powers and levels?

    Damn, that's why I am not currently subscribed to anything. I even bought a game engine. You laugh, but I am not some kid and I am also a project manager in RL. Google Realmcrafter. Cost you $100. Even if you never make a game, it is still like getting a chemistry set from your dad when you were 13. Hehehe.

    In any case, in my humble opinion, half the problem with mmogs today is the PLAYERS, not the systems.

    Anyone here remember naked newbie races? That was back when people who knew how to have fun made things fun.

  • Posted: 8/07/08 11:09 PM
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• • Still skill-based mmorpg around?

  • "Oh I'm sorry I can't party with you your 2 levels below me and that will nerf my exp" if you've played a MMO with levels you've heard that line."

     

    Before I begin, I fully admit that I am a class based guy invading enemy territory and trying to make a point without seeming trollish.

    As for the above... I can't agree. What the heck does helping young (young in levels I mean) players have to do with XP? It is two seperate experiences, friend. It is not my fault that all you have met is greedy XP whores.

    Heck, I've done variations of this in many mmogs. Buffs and heals are the key to newbie help. A lot of times you don't even group with them.

    But, your right... it's a freaking me me me world. But don't blame that on game systems, my friend.

    Carry on!

  • Posted: 8/07/08 10:50 PM
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• • I play a girl toon and take advantage of other guys. Unethical?

  • Um, if you are male and like to play male characters almost exclusively, that does not mean that you are gay.

    For me, I play males because I like to RP what I would do if I (I meaning the person I am) were thrust all of a sudden in to whatever world. I RP me, in other words. Since I am not female, I don't relate to female characters.

    In fact, wouldn't you say the males who know how to RP females might be a little gay? :) I'm joking more or less, but if one is going to go down that road it seems more logical than what kind of pixel butt you want to stare at. I mean, staring any ANY pixel butt might be cause for concern in the first place. :)

    There are notable exceptions in my case. I played a female exclusively in Vampire: The Masquerade because the character animations while moving crouched were positively gay LOOKING unless you played a female. :)

    There are also situations such as Mass Effect where males and females have different story lines to some degree.

    Other than that, that's ME standing there in any mmog I play. Not that everyone should be that way.

  • Posted: 8/07/08 11:01 AM
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• • I play a girl toon and take advantage of other guys. Unethical?

  • Originally posted by Spooky1013
    

    Originally posted by Scrogdog
    

    Originally posted by Spooky1013
    
    

    
     

    I have to disagree.

    Do you have any idea how many times the world has been predicted to end in my life time? I'm 50 years old, BTW. :)

    The problem with your model is the same problem with ALL models that attempt to predict the future, be it famine or global warming or what have you. The problem is that all models do is to carry the present in to the future. I can't think of a single instance where this proved to be a useful endeavor.

    In 1960, a *scientist* by the name of Paul Erlich said, "The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s the world will undergo famines - hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death". Did it happen? Nope. Why? Because technology that he had no hope of predicting outpaced his model.

    In 1990, climate modelers estimated a world population of 11 billion by 2100. Today many scientists believe that the number will be closer to 7 billion.

    Now, lets look at this in reverse. If people 100 years ago were to worry about where we'd be today, what do you think they'd worry about? Probably, where would the world get enough horses? And what would be done with all of the dung? :)

    Horse pollution was a serious problem in 1900. But, what was logic THEN is not the logic of today, right?

    In my opinion, such predictions based on flawed models are a complete waste of time. You are welcome to your opinion, of course, but the history of like events and predictions are not in your side in this matter. Far from it, in fact.

     

      [B]First of all, they were barely a decade or 2 out of practically the old west in 1900. That's an exaggeration but the scientists and the world were still very primitive then.[/B] They didn't have the time to accumulate knowledge and were just beginning to learn things. They couldn't conceive the world today, and our needs, our resource consumption. The reality is there won't be many more major technological leaps for at least another 30 to 40 years. There are always a few, but the ones made will most likely only make more hungry mouths to feed and not help supply energy or truely make the majority of our lives much easier. We may in fact have to sacrifice some of our comforts to make room for primitives sooner or later.

    If suddenly cold fusion is achieved, livestock is genetically-engineered to grow full size in a matter of weeks and can be kept sustained themselves in a very cheap, efficient manner, and third-world nations stop popping out babies like bubblegum machines... as well as never placing too many energy demands themselves... I'll hand you a thousand bucks.

     Without an unrealistic leap in knowledge and the ability to apply it efficiently... eventually people in a hundred or two hundred, or however many more years will be kicking themselves and cursing us. I don't see it as very realistic that efficient energy use and practical and common renewable sources of energy as well as quickly raised and satisfying food sources will be discovered, created or whatever before we outgrow ourselves. Especially when many primitive countries are sitting on resources that could be used but for the fact that occupying or demanding in return for aid would cause too many other real nations to complain. If they were to industrialize, they'd behave the way China is.

    
     

    My friend, you are making yourself look worse and worse with each post that you make.

    Uh... ever hear of revolutionary guys by the name of... say... Newton? Or Keppler? These guys lived in the 1600s forget the 1900s. And they were among the most revolutionary and revered scientists of all time.

    Primative? I'll wager both of them forgot more about science than you'll ever know.

    But please continue to pretend that you have a science clue. It's good for a laugh if nothing more.

  • Posted: 8/06/08 9:51 PM
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• • I play a girl toon and take advantage of other guys. Unethical?

  • Originally posted by Spooky1013
    

    Originally posted by Scrogdog
    
    

    When we choose to knock down the weak instead of giving them a helping hand up we are all lessened as human beings.

     

     

     

       Eventually if we all did begin acting on that philosophy, the world would be in shambles and nearly everyone alive at some point would suffer. The world population will always continue to grow and most countries will never accept a cap on births, especially here where it's needed with the lowlife and neglectful population.

    Eventually with expansion to give a large enough population living space and facilities for daily living and recreation, there would continue to be less land to grow and raise food along with less resources left to mine or drill as the needs of assisted third-world countries becoming industrial will take away from those already civilized and proving deserving of being advanced nations.

    At some point, our descendants  will die of starvation and violent competition. And likely poor living conditions because I'm certain enough it'll not be profitable to stop using controllable, marketable natural resources by then. No power, no cities, no good medical care, no technology to improve and grow crops and raise cattle faster although people would whine it's unethical at the same time of complaining about starvation most likely.

     I'm not a jerk, but it's not logical to assume our knowledge and capabilities will increase at a high enough pace to keep up with a growing population and dwindling resources. Some things that happen in the world help to maintain the balance of human culture. And you can be certain there are many people running governments in the modern, civilized nations who must see things that way. I hope so for the sake of the future in general. Little less heart and a few more results would ultimately go much farther. The road to Hell was paved on good intentions

    
     

    I have to disagree.

    Do you have any idea how many times the world has been predicted to end in my life time? I'm 50 years old, BTW. :)

    The problem with your model is the same problem with ALL models that attempt to predict the future, be it famine or global warming or what have you. The problem is that all models do is to carry the present in to the future. I can't think of a single instance where this proved to be a useful endeavor.

    In 1960, a *scientist* by the name of Paul Erlich said, "The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s the world will undergo famines - hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death". Did it happen? Nope. Why? Because technology that he had no hope of predicting outpaced his model.

    In 1990, climate modelers estimated a world population of 11 billion by 2100. Today many scientists believe that the number will be closer to 7 billion.

    Now, lets look at this in reverse. If people 100 years ago were to worry about where we'd be today, what do you think they'd worry about? Probably, where would the world get enough horses? And what would be done with all of the dung? :)

    Horse pollution was a serious problem in 1900. But, what was logic THEN is not the logic of today, right?

    In my opinion, such predictions based on flawed models are a complete waste of time. You are welcome to your opinion, of course, but the history of like events and predictions are not in your side in this matter. Far from it, in fact.

  • Posted: 8/06/08 5:35 PM
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