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• • AoC Graphics tests from all NEW released Graphics Cards (includes 4870X2)

  • It is obvious you and I are talking about two different things, its unfortunate, but take comfort that the cost to play these graphically intense games will drop as better hardware comes out.

  • Posted: 7/16/08 7:27 PM
    Age of Conan
• • AoC Graphics tests from all NEW released Graphics Cards (includes 4870X2)

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    Originally posted by Jackdog
    so why are the fanbois making threads to show graphics tests made on such machines?OOps they just cut and pasted the framerates, and did not happen to list the specsa on the test machines...hmm spin maybe LOL.
    It's even funnier that the game still performance is only mediocre on as you call it "bleeding edge" overclocked 6 grand machines when the average gamer is trying to play on less than half that machine.  I bet less than half the gamers here are using Crossfire or SLI let alone 1500 CPU's or600 hundred dollar DDR3- 1800 memory. Some are sure, but it ain't gonna be me.
    

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    First, I don't play AoC. Second even after Everquest 2  had come out no machine reasonably play with all the settings turned to the maximum for a long time. AoC attempted that and there is a system configuration that is capable of having all the settings turned on in a very amount of short time. MMOs are designed to be played for years, and offering settings that won't be obtainable is part of that strategy.

    
    If you really wanted to make any sort of argument, you would of looked at his source to see that the ATI card has all the settings maxed and NVIDIA was unable to match as it had a few settings turned down.

     

  • Posted: 7/16/08 7:15 PM
    Age of Conan
• • AoC Graphics tests from all NEW released Graphics Cards (includes 4870X2)

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    Originally posted by Jackdog

    I think the main point is that I could take a high end video card stick in a extreme high end system and still  get less than 40 FPS. Piss poor coding any way you cut it. This game is not worth building a 4000 or 5000 dollar box for, even if fixed all the bugs and and added in 5 times the content, and managed to balance the classes.
    

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    You should never build a system for one game, nor should you ever buy one game station for one game. It is a waste of money and no single game can justify buying a such a system. A 5000 dollar system is a lot for any computer and if it is that expensive, it is what you call bleeding edge, a system meant for enthusiasts that have the money to constantly buy new parts. Not only, these parts are much more expensive and lose value immediately after a few months.

  • Posted: 7/16/08 6:48 PM
    Age of Conan
• • AoC Graphics tests from all NEW released Graphics Cards (includes 4870X2)

  • Originally posted by miagisan
    

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    The 4870 X2 used in these tests has not been released yet. It will contain 2 4870 chips on the same board. I doubt it will sell for $299. The GTX 280 sells for $499 and up
    

    Those tests were performed with high end computers. The Anandtech used a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 CPU which sells for 1499 at Newegg, the [H]Enthisiast used a QX9650 which sells for $1020 at Newegg. Those are just the CPU's. Add in motherboards, memory, HD's, video cards, PSU's and video cards and you are looking at a build price of 3 to 4K. Off the shelf prebuilts you could double those prices.
    

    The Anandtech test using a single 4870 got the following framerates 1680 x 1050 36 FPS, 1920 x 1200 32 FPS, and 2560 x 1600 25FPS. This was with that card in a machine where the CPU alone cost more than my entire computer. Not exactly anything to brag about in my opinion.
    

    What jackdog said. Him and I usually but heads on most topics,  but he is correct.

    The point of this post is that by simply switching the video cards on the same system between ati and nvidia's offerings, ati out performs nvidia. This is a big deal as ATI has finally been able to pull inhead of the graphics race.

    Also the GTX 280, orignially sold for 600+, becuase of ATI, that cards price has dropped down to 500.

    To the one mentioning a $6000 system needed to play AoC, that would only be necessary if you wanted to have every setting turned to its fullest. Otherwise you could buy a cheaper system (now even cheaper as when new graphics cards are released, thier previous iterations drop in price.) and set the settings on medium and still have a very enjoyable game. And that is true with every game.

    AoC's may have poor programming, but note that crysis is still barely playable and they were unable to turn all the settings up. Either way, AoC has potential to become more stable and don't loo to this card as the sole thing needed to enjoy the game.

     

  • Posted: 7/16/08 6:08 PM
    Age of Conan