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• • Fantastic Games Ruined By Instancing

  • Originally posted by nariusseldon
    

    Secondly, it is a  freaking GAME. It is entertainment. If i want challenge, I go to work. And guess what, the marketing is NOT listening to drivels like this. Thank GOD that instance has become the norm.

     

    I LOVE this response! It says it all man... "If I want a challenge I'll go to work" Very well said. Perhaps the people who like to sneak around, mine nodes under people's noses and steal there loot, and think this is challenging should quit their care bear job (or GET a job first, then quit it) and get a real job, something challenging, engaging and more fulfilling than burger-flipping or table bussing. Gee, I hope I didn't offend anyone with my care bear comment.    ;)
    

    
    

    "Laugh it up Bullwinkle!"

  • Posted: 7/21/08 7:45 AM
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• • Fantastic Games Ruined By Instancing

  • Originally posted by tarkin1980
    

    Personally I can't think of a single positive aspect of instancing. It's just plain boring and a short cut to cater to care bear whiners who are too weak/passive to grab what they want in a true, open MMO world. Everyone has the exact same chance to get the boss kill, or whatever. You lost it to the other group? Well Boo-Hoo? I guess you just didn't cut it. Maybe it's time to stop whining and actually PRACTICE, instead of expecting to get everything served on an instanced silver plate. I'm totally against the idea that being unskilled and generally sucky should be rewarded in games. I'm not saying I wont play a game that has instances, but it IS a huge turn off. Bleh.

     

    So either master the game or go play something else... not much of a "community" attitude there. Of course, the other option is basically get abused, lose out on good content, items and fun then eventually quit the game. Maybe that's not a 3rd option so much as an extended 2nd option?

  • Posted: 7/21/08 7:34 AM
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• • General: MMORPG Gamers Handbook - Part One

  • Originally posted by Thunderstump 

     

    Naazir

    Does it matter if something has the title “official” as long as a lot of people might take interest in it? Just because someone is in charge doesn’t’ mean he can give good interviews, and just because someone isn’t in charge, doesn’t mean his writings are useless.

     

    You say “some random reader’s personal opinion” and at the same time “I’m not saying anything about the content of this paper”, you contradict yourself. This paper isn’t based on my personal opinion, but on experience of what has worked efficiently through years of gaming. Also academic projects have a lot harder rules, so it’s actually more likely that you get personal or a company’s opinion from someone “official”.

     

    Though if you still feel that I’m talking out in the blue, please correct my mistakes and tell me where I’m doing wrong. I still find it better to write and try to help people than decide that learning through experience is best and keep everything to yourself. Many people have different reasons for needing a hand and those that doesn’t’ can just skip reading.

     

    Funny you mention Sony since the only game I played actively was WoW when writing this. I do believe Blizzard is one of their hardest competitors. ; )

     

    The reason I was focusing on WoW is because they have the highest player base and should also have highest amount of new players, which is my main target group with this article.

     

    
    

    Being "official" or not : My point was in regards to where this ducument was posted. The location in which it was posted has been, till now, a place to find information other than gamer opinions/research... whatever you want to call it. Your paper belongs in the blog or forum sections as I see it. Excuse me for voicing this opinion?

    On "personal opinions" : Again, since I have yet to even READ this document (a point people keep missing here) I obviously cannot comment on the content of your paper. Again, as I've stated a few times already, I'm commenting on WHERE IT WAS PLACED, not the subject, content, style, language.... of the paper itself. How is this a contradiction?

    As to contradictions : You say this paper (again, I have NOT read it yet!) "isn't based on my personal opinion", only to then state "but on experience of what has worked...". To put it bluntly, your experiences make what you write about them opinion. Your feelings on a class as you test them out and try to see what works and what does not work, these are all biases and therefore opinion. What IS the case for you as you play a Cleric may not fit the play style or interests of someone else playing a Cleric. But I digress...

    To be honest, since I have NOT read this paper yet (echo... echo... echo...) I have no idea how you feel about any class or whatever. I'm not interested in how you think I (or anyone else for that matter) "should" play an MMO. I'm more of the mind that people should get a game, install it, create a toon, log in and explore/have fun. Learn as you go. My point here is what again??

     

    Oh right, the placement of this paper.  Wow.

  • Posted: 7/16/08 1:37 PM
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• • General: MMORPG Gamers Handbook - Part One

  • Originally posted by Flummoxed
    

    bah, just play the damn games and get experience by actually Playing, not Reading how to play.

    Half the fun and wonder of experiencing a new world is being tossed in and having to figure stuff out - ask stupid questions, being called a noob, getting ganked, finding real friends, ...

    LEARN THRU EXPERIENCE!

     

    /stand
    /appplaud
    /cheer
    /equip "Hand Drum" primaryhand
    /playsong "Jackrabbit Speed Song"

    Happy hunting/exploring everyone!!!

  • Posted: 7/14/08 10:30 AM
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• • General: MMORPG Gamers Handbook - Part One

  • Originally posted by Stradden
    

    Originally posted by Naazir
    

    Can anyone please explain how this garbage (and I use that term incredulously) made it from a blog posting to the main MMORPG.com page where we usually find practical information like developer chats, interviews, new game announcements and the like? How the hell does this "handbook" rate such a prominent position? Is he sleeping with one of the administrators here? An in-law or something?

    I guess it coincides with MMORPG.com posting info on non-MMO games though. Anyone know of a good source of info for actual MMO's as I think this one's been bought out by Sony.  :P

     

    -Naaz.

    Sure, I'll explain.

    First: It's a well-written general guide for players who might be new to the genre. That was agreed upon by the entire staff here, and I stand by it.

    Second: You're not going to like everything that we put up here. Honestly, we cater to a lot fo different people and some things are going to appeal to you and some things aren't.

    Third: Yes, I can see where us posting this article would lead you to believe that we've been "bought out by Sony". You do realize that this is an independently written piece and has nothing at all to do with ANY game company, let alone Sony.

    Hope that clears things up for you.

     

    My opinion has nothing to do with the content at all, just the fact that it was posted up in the revolving window of useful information pertaining to games and gaming companies. Now, you could translate that statement loosely enough so that it would include something some guy wrote about games or gaming. But so far, we've come to expect information that is more "official" pertaining to games and gaming. Devices reviewed by staff or reputable hardware sites. Developer information, chats and interviews regarding current and future games.

    The information we expect to see (or is it just "I" expect to see...) has always been stories and articles written in stone, official, and out of the mouths of the people in charge. Is this just the first of many "papers someone wrote that sounded good" we're going to find there? Will the balance of quality gaming information start tiping in favor of player opinions instead of direct information from gaming companies (for example)?

    Again, I'm not saying ANYTHING about the content of his paper. That'll have to be another rant for another day (teehee). And no, of course I didn't actually think MMORPG.com was purchased by Sony... it was sarcasm based on all the hatred people have for that company and the tragedies that become of those purchases. Anyway...

    You're are correct in assuming not everyone will like everything you post here, but please take a look past all that. I don't care if this guy wrote a paper on how he thinks a gaming company makes games or what some gaming companies could do to improve... My opinion here is merely that some random reader's personal opinion should not have been deemed worthy of a "page1 print". It should have been left in the blog section where it originated (at least that's where I saw it the day before it was moved up to the big flashy banner) along with everyone else's opinions on how to best play an MMO.

    Was that clear enough? Do I make more sense now? Am I still a hater?   :(

     

    -Naaz.

  • Posted: 7/10/08 7:05 PM
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