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• • Football season is almost upon us...

  • Who else enjoys this magical time of year out there?

    Been watching since the early/mid 70s. My Dad used to work many weekends as an autoworker back then, so my Mom would watch games since there really wasnt anything else on.

    By the age of 7 or so I was hooked for life.

    Fav team is the Michigan Wolverines(although dont really follow as much college except for them).

    Fav league is NFL of course. Long time Steeler fan(since 70s). Also root for my home state Lions(ewww), and the Rams a little.

    Looking forward to watching the games this fall, and of course fantasy football. Be either our 12th or 13th season in a local league with 7 RL friends.

    Anyways to my fellow fans...here is hoping the players on your favorite teams avoid any serious injuries this year. That is always the worst thing about the game... Seeing these guys get really messed up.

    Broken bones heal...being put in a wheelchair for life doesnt.

  • Posted: 7/23/08 4:10 PM
    General Discussion
• • The announcement of a new LA/Bioware SWG game squarely places the blame of the current SWG failure on SOE

  • Originally posted by thenetavenge
    

    Originally posted by darquenblade
    

    Originally posted by severius
    

    It's very amusing to watch the defenders of SOE trying to place the blame for the NGE on anyone but SOE.  The only one's who try foist the blame for the NGE on LA are these defenders.  Face the facts, the NGE was developed in house by SOE, it was SOE that convinced the Lucas Arts people that "no one wanted to be Uncle Owen or Aunt Beru, and everyone wanted to be Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader."  It was SOE that forced it down the gaming public's throat and it was the players that said "up yours SOE".

    
     

    What's also amusing is when people bring up SOE's incompetence, they only refer to the NGE.

    SOE failed with the Star Wars franchise from the very beginning, starting with the poorly designed pre-CU game that eventually brought about the NGE change in the first place.

    
     

    The first six months after release were 'hard' on the game, as it was still a beta product. Jan of the next year the game was pretty stellar and a year later had 500,000 sub numbers in an MMO market that most titles had 200,000.

    The original developres 'knew' what they were doing and still are look upon as 'gods' of MMOs as they brought the whole 'social' and 'living' in the Virtual World to an MMO fro the first time. This is why previous SWG players are still so passionate, because they didn't lose a game, they lost a virtual place they lived, something no other MMO has successfully created, even WoW.

    WoW wouldn't of had the success it had if it weren't for SOE continually screwing over customers. EQII they screwed customers, and SWG they were good to people up to the CU and then the new teams of the time were freaking awful, and it was evident that SOE didn't care anymore. (When the original developers jumped ship the writing was on the wall SOE was screwing over the game and it was going to get worse - hence the massive developer defectors after JTL as the next addtions to the game conflicted with the original design goals (these being the CU).
    
    If nothing else Blizzard could see what NOT to do with an MMO and that is what they did. Of all the SWG players that left more than 70% of them still play WoW, even if not their main MMO, and even though many don't like being hand fed missions like a 5 yr old, at least WoW is fairly stable and Blizzard listens to the people playing first and foremost.

    If Bioware brings their KOTOR knowledge with the 'social' and sandbox concepts to the new Star Wars, it will be the next WoW, as Bioware does care about customers to a painful level, even hurting themselves to make sure what they create is loved.

     

    
     

    500k subs....in SWG?

     

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

     

    Would love to see proof on that claim.

    The largest North American MMO before WoW was EQ, at a rumored 450k in its heyday. So how is it SWg had more subs?

    It didnt...thats how.

    The rumors were 300 to 350k at launch...steadily downhill from there.

    At no point was it cited that SWG was bigger than EQ. If it had surpassed EQ, the news would of been everywhere.

  • Posted: 7/23/08 3:49 PM
    Star Wars Galaxies
• • What Do You Want? 1) KotOR, 2) SWG II, or 3) KotOR w/ SWG Features? >Poll<

  • Originally posted by Flyte27
    

    I do like the idea of sandbox games, but I believe Star Wars was never meant to be one of those.  There are so many Sci - Fi like Star Trek that would be perfect for a sandbox that didn't revolve around combat and was heavily about exploring new places.  If you watch the Star Wars movies they are all very story driven and Jedi/Sith are always at the center of things.

    
     

    Pretty much says it all.

     

    I suggested on another thread that the new Battlestar Galactica series would make for a great sandbox environment.

    There is lots of character interaction in it, and would be various non-combat jobs needed in the fleet.

    You just dont use, what is arguably the biggest science fiction IP of all time, for a niche market.

    Especially when the theme in the movies has always been about action.

  • Posted: 7/23/08 3:24 PM
    General Discussion
• • Kotor Online is not an MMO

  • I am down with a SW game that is akin to NWN.

     

    Lot of modders have come up with extra content...and the content that was released by BW was pretty tasty IMO. Kind of liking NWN2 better for their modules thus far....but that is neither here nor there.

    But that isnt what I was getting from the various quotes.

    My interpretation was a linear/content laden game with defined roles. 

    So far away from the sandbox concept, that some vets are gonna be screaming "bloody murder".

  • Posted: 7/23/08 12:13 AM
    Star Wars Galaxies
• • sign here if you want whine threads about SWG whine threads to be locked.

  • Originally posted by kefkah
    

    /sign

    Now where's my free toaster?

    
     

    Dude gets a toaster for posting on brds?

     

    All I got was a lousy t-shirt. :(

  • Posted: 7/21/08 4:31 PM
    Star Wars Galaxies