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• • post WotLK: my server is a ghost town

  • Definately a European problem and for me personally an English speaking Euro problem. I play on Ellyrion which is the English speaking ORVR/RP server. So open RVR and RP, it should be absolutely packed and most people's no.1 choice of server, it is in most other games. No. I have probably seen twenty players, of both sides, in the time since launch and these days i can play solid for four hours and see only one other player (excluding friends). Even the cities are empty. The whole game is a solo stand alone pve experience, waiting times for scenerios are maybe 30 mins if they can scrape enough together for teams and PQs are impossible to do solo, no one is around at all.

    I'm pretty much playing it like i would Oblivion with a chat option at the minute. What a failure. 

  • Posted: 11/16/08 10:47 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • Has any played on a ORVR server?

  • I'm playing on the ORVR server Ellyrion on the European servers and it makes no difference that it's full RVR all the time because there is no one around to gank or fight or run away from. I can wander for hours through enemy realms only having to avoid npcs... very sad. ORVR is my preference but it has failed on the Euro servers because of the lack of players.

  • Posted: 11/16/08 10:36 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • RVR was a mistake?

  • Originally posted by Kaenash

    
     

    Actual warfare seems "annoying"?

    The feel and call of a constant battle feels "Annoying"?

     

    You and I couldn't be more opposite if you tried. The fact that they immerse me in the sense that I am a Hero in a War and that everything we do can affect our side and matters in the world, IS AWESOME.

     

    Some people just can't be satisfied. "Oh gosh, this makes me feel there is this war constantly going on around me. I want some times to feel like peace broke out for no apparent reason".

    How about wishing the game made you feel you were at the Circus and eating popcorn?

     

    "This game that promsies the feel of constant war delivered on it...Oh drat! "

     

    Sheesh!

     

    Warhammer made no secret it's about a constant war. You may want to go play World War II online and start complaining they need to make it feel more like WWI and to have peaceful zones where you can frolic instead of "This constant invading stuff"

     

     

     

    
     

    You totally missed my point. No war is constant, it's totally unrealistic. There are lulls and calms and feints and attacks etc... not continual fighting. I like wargames but this is a wargame for babies with no concept of reality. The WWII games you talk about aren't mmorpgs and i suppose this is the problem.

    As for your last comment, totally bizarre, you really don't understand what i'm about do you?

  • Posted: 9/29/08 8:51 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • RVR was a mistake?

  • Originally posted by Snapps
    

    Originally posted by Matt_UK
    

    To be honest i think Mythic missed a trick by making this game RVR at all. There are plenty of RVR games out there now, DAoC, WoW, even LOTRO is RVR if you count monster play. I know the whole background of Warhammer is the 'war' between the different races but to be honest i think that should have maybe been a backstory as opposed to the main thrust of the game. You can't walk anywhere in WAR without the constant sound of battle ringing in your ears. At first it's exciting but after a while becomes annoying and there's no respite from it. Even real wars have quiet periods. Also, where is the night time and where is the weather? WAR landscape does look good, even better than AoC i'd say but i don't get the sense i'm in a real world, especially with all the repetitive combat animations going off all around me. I must have seen those Orcs attacks those Elf archers a thousand times, yawn.

    There is lots to like about this game. They are the first game to get High Elves and Dark Elves right in my opinion, and the starting areas look great as do the mobs and the character avatars. I just wish it was a PVE game, with the war as the backstory, like in LOTRO. In Lord of the Rings the war is going on, there are camps of goblins etc... everywhere, but it doesn't drive you through the game, it provides background for RP and quests.

    Just a a few early thoughts. Good game, but too contrived and not varied enough so far. Also it is far too much like WoW, but that's not Warhammer's fault since Warcraft ripped off the Warhammer tabletop game in the first place. Wow just got there first. Shame really.
     

    Not that i like WAR but how the hell do you come to the point that wow is rvr or lotro? You do know what rvr means don`t you? Realm v Realm,so please explain to me where WOW and lotro have any form of Realm v Realm combat.

    WOW is everyone agaist everyone else,their is no rvr combat going on in wow,as a matter of fact they have the different factions working together to open silly portals and instances all for the WAR effort.

    I will say...

    Mythic have killed their RVR reputation by  trying to make out that WAR is a true RV R game.

    DAOC is the only RVR game that is true RVR not WAR which is nothing like RVR you get in DAOC.

    Mythic missed the chance to make a really great RVR game similar to DAOC, instead they went the WOW route and missed the boat.

    In six months time look at the amount of people still playing WAR.It feels like a single rpg with counter strike pvp as the central focus,it was a let down. Yeah i know many people at the moment like it but let`s see how many of them same people are still playing 6 months down the road.

     

    Their is nothing mmorpg about war it just doent have the right feel to be called a mmorpg.

    Way to gp Mythic, they should of made  DAOC 2 but they needed a big IP to compete with WOW. It will come to haunt them in the future.

     

    
     

    I agree LOTRO and WoW are not true RVR in the same way as DAoC is and i played DAoC from day one btw and the other two, but wow has the battlegrounds, which is Alliance vs. Horde and certain areas of Wow allow Alliance vs. Horde pvp and that is to all intents and purposes Realm VS. Realm. How is it not? The monster play in LOTRO doesn't go that far but it's still capture the flag etc... which is pretty much all RVR is and ever was.

    I agree with you 100% Mythic should have upgraded DAoC, maybe with DAoCII. As with EQ, DAoC will just be allowed to wither and die. A shame, it was once the best game out there.

    I totally agree it isn't RP enough either. I can imagine a lot of RP fans going to the WAR and thinking it's essentially a multiplayer FPS with swords.

  • Posted: 9/29/08 8:45 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • RVR was a mistake?

  • Originally posted by plaxidia
    

    If there wasn't RvR it wouldn't be warhammer.. And some could argue there are more than enough PVE games also..

    Alot of people seem to forget that WAR was designed after the original game.. Not off some other MMO.. If you look at the models the abilities and the world around.. You see Warhammer everywhere.. And thats the point.. If you want no RvR, more Pve, diffrent graphice.. Well there are other games to play.. If you want to play Warhammer.. Then that is what you have.. /shrug

    
     

    I did actually make that point Plaxidia, Warhammer is an original idea long before any mmorpg ever even existed, in fact before most modern PCs ever existed. It's just a shame it has come out after Wow because the comparisons are obvious. I love the Warhammer world, i'm just not sure RVR was the way to go, although of course Warhammer is RVR, it's a paradox.

  • Posted: 9/29/08 8:38 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)