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Before every female gamer starts jumping me with knifes, blades, baseball bats and cooking pans I'd like to clarify the thread title first.
If you're a female gamer who enjoys playing games, enjoys talking about games then rest assured, you can sit back and enjoy this entry as this is not directed at you in any way or form. However if you're a female gamer that feels a strong urge to rant on how terrible your gaming experiences as a girl have been and if you feel a strong need to let others know that girl gamers do exists and that they can in fact compete with males in gaming then please read closely and pay attention.
If you visit gaming website frequently then you're bound to come across a few articles that either have girl gamers rant of the 'many' horrible online experiences they have encountered or to point out that there are many girls playing online games and possibly reffering to a professional girl gaming clan like Frag dolls or something like that.
Everytime I read an article like that I sigh a little and I find it difficult to even finish the article, because I already know exactly what the article is like the moment I read the first line.
"guys don't believe I'm a girl"
"guys ask me for pictures"
"guys are flirting with me"
"guys give me items and equipment just because I'm a girl".
I'm sure I left a few out, but you get the point.
I can't help but feel that many girl gamers exaggerate....a lot.
I have known many girl gamers over the years and I rarely hear complaints. Some girl gamers would like to make you believe they are being harassed all over the place, but there is little truth in that.
Yes, we know that you, girl gamers, get crap sometimes. Well guess what: We all do, male gamers included. What, you thought I never got a request to show other people my picture? You think I never had a girl hitting on me online? it just happens, get over it already.
Seriously, so what if a guy or a girl flirts with you and gives you items? I can imagine far worse thing then a person of the other sex flirting with me and give me free items (I apologize for the lack of political correctness in this sentence. If a lack of political correctness bothers you, please don't read the previous sentence)
Now to be fair I don't know of anybody who would suspect of a male character to be a female in real life while many people often question the real gender of a female character. Phrases as "Male until proven otherwise" "MMORPG: Many men online role playing Girls" and "Girl: Guy in real life" are not uncommon.
However the issue here is that there are, in fact, a lot of men who play female characters in games, I think it has little to do with the perception on girl gamers.
Yet some girls insist that there is a significant number of male gamers who believe there are no such thing as girl gamers. They seem to base this on surprising reactions from male gamers when they find out you are, in fact, a girl.
However most men do in fact, know there are female gamers, they just aren't as common as male gamers. I play Xbox live quite often and I don't encounter a lot of girls. It's less worse in MMORPG's, but..the vast majority seems to be male.
Even though I know of the existence of female gamers, I still get to read tons of articles of females who are trying to let me know there are girl gamers. I don't care about professional gaming at all, I wouldn't be able to name one professional gaming clan even if a gun was pointed towards me and yet even I know of the "Frag dolls". Why you ask? Because the Frag Dolls are a female professional gaming team which has been pushed in my face by insecure girl gamers to prove that girls can game...just in case I had second thoughts about the gaming abilities of girls.
type in the words "girl gamer" in google and you'll find tons of websites dedicated to girl gamers, there has even been a gaming show "Girls n game" about girl gamers and girl game development.
Yes girl gamers, we know that there are female gamers out there, you don't have to remind us over and over again, please stop asking for attention.
thank you
Originally posted by Ciredric
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by Gameloading
Bioware into a world of hurt? What are you going to do? Send them email? Post on their message boards!? Oh no! anything but that!
I'm going to be rude here for a second, But SWG whiners, please, do everyone a favor and shut the hell up.
Bioware will make their OWN game, in case you haven't noticed yet the name of the game is Knights of the old republic online, Not "Bioware presents Star Wars Galaxies: PRE - NGE edition".
Bioware does NOT owe it to you to create a pre nge SWG game just because they are using the star wars license. They will make their own game.
Ah, but you completely missed the point of the thread. It is not Bioware making this game, it is Lucas Arts and Bioware, notice which name I placed first in this sentence.
Lucas Arts thinks they know what MMO players want and that is a very FPS like game. Bioware truely has a dragon by the tail. We will have to wait and see how this match in hell works out to see if Bioware can maintain the vision they have had in other games or bow to persistent pressure from Lucas Arts.
Personally I think it would be a huge mistake to try to make game like pre NGE SWG. I think Bioware should use their talents to make a better game. But I am dearly afraid that Lucas Arts will dictate otherwise.
It doesn't matter one bit if Lucal Arts is involved or not, Bioware will probably be in charge of the design of the game.
Hmm, you say it does not matter....bet you can ask SOE if it matters or not. Bioware in charge of design, sure... as long as they make the game like LA thinks it should be...... You have to be pretty naive to believe that Bioware is the one in control here.
There really is no need to reply to my posts with 2 different accounts Ozmodan.
I don't think SOE will answer that question, nor do I think that LA is going to tell Bioware what and what not to do. I think you're just looking for an excuse to bash the game and voice a negative opinion about it before it is even officially announced yet.
Originally posted by Draenor
I love how the OP says " I know that I for one will be giving them a tough time"
it's like...okay...you do that...I'll be enjoying the game and asking "who the hell are you?"
Bioware doesn't care if you give them a hard time, you are nobody.
oh yeah!? well don't you understimate the power of the internets!
We're going to like...post on the forums, posting how much this game sucks... and....chat in irc channels and stuff....and we might even make an online petition!
So just you wait bioware! If you do not answer to the SWG's vets will, we're going to take you down! muhahahahah!
Originally posted by infrared1
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by infrared1
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by infrared1
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by infrared1
No diversity. Come on... everyones a spy of some sort. This will get boring REAL quick. No way for a player to be original or stand apart in the game. Sounds like a console game to me.
I'm sorry but that's a really unfair argument. In a typical fantasy MMORPG we're all adventurers, in a game like Tabula Rasa we're all soldiers, in a game like EVE we're all pilots, in a game like City of Heroes we're all super heroes.
Hmm... maybe thats why everyone keeps complaining about how MMO's have become so stale lately. No originality. Let me be a soldier, or spy, or pilot, or adventurer, or super hero in ONE game. Now that is diversity and that breaks the MMO molds. Why do people keep acting like a game like this will keep their interest. All of the MMO's you named off, I don't play, for the same reason I won't play this one. Same ol' same ol' crap game with nothing new to bring to the table except it spies now. WTF! Just my opinion. I like to be innovative, original and think outside the current MMO box. It's all just a nitche thing. I want more out of a game.
You can't appeal to everybody, you're asking way, way to much from just one game. It's much better for one game to focus on one theme and get that right instead of trying to appeal to everybody and give a mediocre experience to everyone. You can't create a game that has a flight system of EVE, a full stealth mechanic and content suited for stealth AND adventuring of traditional mmorpg's, that's impossible.
Yo Mr. Gameloading, I'm not stupid. I know you can't appeal to everyone. It's just the majority that I'm after.
As for the rest of your comment... It's that type of attitude that continues to keep MMO's where they are, mediocre, cookie cutter, niche crap. As for a "traditional MMO", you are correct, it is impossible. Get your head out of the box and start thinking NEXGEN.
Quote me: All games are niche games that appeal to certain groups. If you can take all the best parts of each game and put them together you get the next big game.
Correct me if I'm wrong but AO and SWG are pretty diverse are they not. Single theme yes , but lots of player diversity. Especially SWG pre-CU. It appealed to a large audience. Too bad SOE F**ked it up. AO, hell, I can't wait till the graphics upgrade goes live. Lord knows it needs it bad.
A game like Star Wars Galaxies is not really a game that focus on anything, in fact, I think it's the perfect example. Star Wars Galaxies also has some form of space flight combat, is it anything compared to EVE? No, ofcourse not, because it's not the games focus. Or take crafting in mmorpg's. Now some mmorpgs do crafting quite well, but then compare that to a game that is completely build around crafting, such as ATITD. ATITD easily wins.
You can't just take bits and pieces from other games, put them all in one and expect them to work, and it takes way, waaayyy to much time to combine all of EVE with all of SWG,, for example.
That's why games like The Agency's focus is entirely on being a spy/action hero.
YOUR opinion, and that's all it is. We can agree to disagree. In my opinion you are SOOOO wrong. My point shall be proven soon enough. I will forgive you in advance for your short sightedness. Live and learn.
Yes Infrared, I'm sure there will one day be a game development company that can make 7 completely different type of games at once and put them all into one game ![]()
I really wonder why people insist on making these threads.
You think the game is nothing special and it doesn't seem appealing to you? Fine, no problem, then go post in the section of a game you DO enjoy or are looking forward to.
I mean, do you honnestly think we're all waiting for you to come here and tell us how you think this game is "nothing special"? People come here to learn about the game or to talk about it because their excited about it.
It's really a shame the negative attitude usually found in sections like WAR, age of Conan and darkfall is starting to spread here, we had a nice little community here. Oh well, it was fun while it last i guess.
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