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• • Skills and Abilities

  • Originally posted by dafuzzle
    

    Just some ideas I have, but I'm sure MMO Magic knows what they're doing with the skill system and has there ideas down.  Just listing skills would be to hard because we don't know much about the combat system and what it's all about so making skills up would be pretty hard.

    
     

    My suggestion would be to think outside the box.  Try to think of something that you'd like to see in a game that maybe you haven't seen before or really liked from another game.

    There are no bad ideas, even bad ideas can spawn great ideas.  Mundane things like "add X damage" or "dual wield" are probably things that have already been thought of... it's the ideas that you may not normally see that Jatar is probably interested in.

    Remember that not every ability has to be a combat ability or an ability that just damages or just heals.  Abilities that just buff you or your group are also useful and having something unique can really add flavor to someone's skill lineup.

  • Posted: 7/17/08 2:35 AM
    Citadel of Sorcery
• • Is this true?

  • I can't believe this thread is still going.

    Look Jatar made 3 comments about the original poster.  I personally agreed with them seeing how the poster showed a complete lack of respect and OBVIOUSLY only posted with the intention to inflame people.  I actually thought Jatar's remarks were funny because they were relating to a situation that is exactly what the poster was doing (making up informed data rather than just saying, "I don't know" or just asking for the right answer).

    If the poster would have just simply ASKED these questions in a friendly manner Jatar would have answered them.  We know this from his past posting experience, the guy doesn't tend to ignore posts.  Instead the original poster just decided it'd be better to research a person who's related to MMO Magic and hosts the website, who also happened to sell some screensavers on the side and pays the hosting costs of the website.

    What I can't understand is people who are so upset that Jatar actually had a backbone to standup to that guy.

    If some random person on a website was researching personal details of an employee and posting them on the internet and then calling my company untalented I'd be beyond mad.  I'm tired of the PC crap that's become the norm.  People get angry, people are PEOPLE.  You shouldn't have to take crap from someone no matter who you are.  I've seen countless devs respond in simular manners in games ranging from EQ, to WoW to Vanguard to just about any other game. Heck if you had seen the AoC beta forums you would see devs rip people all over the place, much worse than Jatar did.  And those were people helping test the game, not random people on a random forum.

    If you look at the original poster's past history all he does is post inflamatory remarks about games that haven't been released.  The MMO community doesn't need people like this who only intend to incite anger on the forums.

    I'd be surprised if Jatar bothers to answer anyone anymore if all he's going to get is flamed for acting like a human being.  The guy makes one post in response to some jerk about how his company needs to hire talent when he's probably been working on the game for the past 3+ years at 12+ hours a day.

    I'm glad he showed some backbone in standing up to the guy... I want a company that will stand firm and fight for what they want, not another company that has a backbone that will bend over backwards to the will of anyone just to make a buck.

    I'd much rather see people talking about the game than some petty argument that's going nowhere.

  • Posted: 7/09/08 1:45 AM
    Citadel of Sorcery
• • Is this true?

  • Personally I saw Friction2u's post as an attack on CoS.  Anyone who takes the time to Google Map a picture of a physical location isn't doing it for a laugh. I re-read the post now and I still can't take his post in any other way but as an insult.

    If he had concerns he could have easily posted a new thread and asked Jatar.  Jatar has been forthcoming with any information that he's been asked.

    Instead, he appears to lead some crusade against CoS and how the company is just a "screensaver company."  It's a crusade post.. a post designed to inflame responses from other.

    I got a good laugh out of Jatar's response (which has now been edited by a forum mod).  I agreed with his assessment and the relation to the poster and those shown on Jay Walking (where people are asked questions and make up crazy answers).

    A lot of information about the game concept, design and status are available on their website. Other information can be found in Jatar's posts or simply asking him.

    Instead, the thread tried to turn a small piece of information into some sort of conspiracy.  A guy who works for MMO Magic made some money selling screensavers..... and?

    I would be willing to bet anyone working on any other game has side projects either in the same industry or not related to it.  It's no big deal, I don't see how this was some "revalation" that somehow someone from MMO Magic has a side job.

    I'd also be pretty upset if some random person from the internet is now using satellite Google photos to track down where my employees live and post that information on public forums.

    As for the screenshots... Jatar has posted multiple times that these are not the final screens.  They are prototypes and placeholders. You can't have a world with nothing in it to work with, otherwise you have nothing.

    Graphics mean nothing, anyway.  EQ2 had awesome graphics and screenshots before release and was a failure of a game.  Performance was horrid and the game looked nothing like it.

    People complained that WoW looked like crap, but it's the biggest MMO in history.

    Jatar has made no secret that gameplay and design comes first and Art will be done at the end. What's the point of spending money, time and resources developing art for an engine that isn't finished?  Why would you devote so much time and energy without a game to put them in?

    The answer is that a lot of MMO companies start with pretty graphics to wow publishers into giving them money.  Core gameplay and design take a back seat to pretty graphics and effects.

    MMO Magic is doing something different: they're focusing on the actual gameplay, design and technical details before pretty graphics. They want to do the game their way and make a working prototype before they go to a publisher.  If all you have are pretty graphics, all you end up with is a pretty failure.

    The posted screenshots are not here to wow you into playing... they're posted because if they DIDN'T show any screenshots, there would be other threads over and over again that the game doesn't exist because there aren't any screenshots!

    Darkfall has had screenshots for YEARS and it's gone nowhere so far.  What good are screenshots if the game doesn't even work?

  • Posted: 7/08/08 12:55 PM
    Citadel of Sorcery