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• • 7 weeks till launch, NDA still in effect, Open Beta still to come...hmm...

  • I've never trusted beta testers to give me an accurate view of a game though. And besides, word of mouth has already spread all across the internet in a lot of beta leaks.

  • Posted: 4/13/08 10:49 PM
    Age of Conan
• • 7 weeks till launch, NDA still in effect, Open Beta still to come...hmm...

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    Considering that you added the Darkfall comment after your initial post in an edit, it looked more like a jab to me than just something passive. I really don't consider myself an AoC fanboy or whatever, but I am anti-Darkfall.

    There's no "state of the game" for you to know because the game is in beta. That's the "state of the game". It sounds like you just are hungry for information, but clamoring for it will not change the simple fact that the NDA will not be lifted... ever.

    The thread title just repeats a few informational blurbs and makes baseless speculation.

    No one is giving anyone a pass just because it's "Funcom". Everyone I see is critical and worrisome. This website just seems more than anything else, a place for people to come and complain about anything and everything.

    Wow, you prefer "proof to faith" and you are waiting for Darkfall? That's just a little contradictory, but I digress.

    The fact of the matter is, I do have proof, but a certain NDA prevents it from being shared. Take that how you wish, but fandom is just not how I roll.

  • Posted: 4/13/08 10:47 PM
    Age of Conan
• • 7 weeks till launch, NDA still in effect, Open Beta still to come...hmm...

  • Originally posted by Pyrostasis
    

     

    Well... thats the conflict. The game could be cool and unique but no one but the testers know this. Releasing the NDA would allow testers to talk about the good and the bad. Hopefully there is more good than bad.

     

    AO for example was HORRIBLE. It was the Darth Vader of launches. To me was the worst launch... so obviously for some of us old timers we are a bit worried. Funcom did good by AO after release, but sadly it was a bit to little to late.

    Most of us didnt know until this thread that funcom had never dropped an NDA, so it becoming an issue now makes sense.

    Funcom is welcome to hold onto the NDA however they please, however, people will speculate on why they do things differently than any other company in the genre. That doesnt really mean they are right or wrong to do so, just different.

    However, if AOC releases and its as buggy as AO was... then people like me wont trust them in the future, specifically cause they wont tell us before launch about the state of the game we are getting into.

    But isn't that how it is in every game? You don't ever really know how a game will play until it gets released. This whole idea of knowing what the game is like before it's even finished is very new to me.

    I don't know much about AO, but that was a long time ago. Besides, you have a lot of beta leaked information floating around on the internet and youtube. If you really want the information, you should be able to find it without much trouble.

    Even if they lifted the NDA, I don't see what that would change other than you having to wade through countless posts with contradictory information and opinions. Funcom is very much aware that they owe people a stable game for the AO launch. The company's future rests of AoC. If it fails, Funcom is probably done as a company.

  • Posted: 4/13/08 10:38 PM
    Age of Conan
• • 7 weeks till launch, NDA still in effect, Open Beta still to come...hmm...

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    Originally posted by Grunties
    

    Funcom did not release the NDA for Anarchy Online, and it turned out to be very incomplete and incredibly buggy at release. Some might say they did not release the NDA specifically because of this. Its a shame so many people think this is a good direction for the genre to go and refuse to learn from the past. Can't wait to see SoE and EA adopting this same policy once they see it works for Funcom, so the release state of everything ever released from now on becomes completely hidden until we've paid for it. Thanks for helping the cause, Daedalus.

    I swear, some people get so caught up in their personal flavor of the month desires they just can't see the big picture.

     

    Frankly, that "waiting for Darkfall" comment just says it all. How can you criticise Funcom for not releasing information but be content to "wait" for a game that's never coming out? *sigh*

    Why would Funcom release the NDA of a game that is still being tested and completed? The only result would be to give people an incomplete picture and contradictory reports from various beta testers who should be spending time helping to remove the remaining bugs than reporting to the community about their impressions of the game.

    The fact of the matter is, we've known that the NDA would never be released. I don't understand why only now this is an issue.

    Speculating on the status of the game based on an NDA policy that had been in effect for almost 9 years now just doesn't make any sense. Furthermore, speculating that other companies will adopt the same policy is useless as well. Funcom has had this policy for 9 years or more and it doesn't seem to be catching on.

    If you want to deny yourself the next big MMO, an MMO that at least tries to do something unique, that's your call, and you can vote with your wallet.

  • Posted: 4/13/08 10:09 PM
    Age of Conan
• • 7 weeks till launch, NDA still in effect, Open Beta still to come...hmm...

  • Originally posted by Mahni
    

     

    Hearing that a game is keeping alpha / beta testers under a NDA up through launch makes me hesitant as well.  I don't require (detailed) information about a game prior to launch, but information prior to a product release influences my expectations and desire to purchase.

     

    Refer to my post above. Releasing the NDA does nothing for Funcom but a disservice.

    I swear, people look for any excuse to put down a game and its developer before launch.

  • Posted: 4/13/08 9:46 PM
    Age of Conan