| Username | ArcheusCross |
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| Joined | January 31, 2007 |
| Gender | Male |
| Age | 25 |
| Location | Tulsa, OK, United States |
| Last Visit | July 16, 2008 |
| Post Count | 574 |
| Biography | Lets just say ive played alot of mmos, and betaed quite a bit too, and have yet to find a truely immersive mmo.. although i have liked quite a few. |
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Originally posted by Tzimiscechi
There are so many things that interest me here.
Firstly: why do players of ANY game think they need to promote it? Isn't that SOE marketing's job? I mean I could understand someone trying to talk their friends in to playing, but this guy is suggesting that they coordinate to try to sell this to everyone.
If you're going to seriously sell me something, you should oh I don't know, DEAL WITH MY CONCERNS AND LISTEN TO ME. This is something Sony simply won't do and they have proved it time and time and time again.
Secondly: It's interesting that this poster FREELY ADMITS that the numbers of players were higher in the pre CU/CU times.
Thirdly: It's interesting to me that these people who claim the NGE is so great can't get over the vet population leaving. The way they talk, the vets are just a "vocal minority" and it wasn't any big deal that these losers left....and yet two years later they're still mad at us, still trying to figure out how to coax us back, still upset that we won't play their stupid game. I guess the NGE isn't good enough to distract them from us. :)
Lastly: If you like the NGE, then you'll love World of Warcrap. It's more interesting, more active, has a larger community and is less buggy. But don't take my word for it - It's what the Sony development team plays. :)
Ha.. exactly.. pure gold.
Originally posted by demalus
My favorite part was the actual critique of the game.
If you actually sit down and play the game, it is complete garbage compared to anything else. I hate to say it, but Pre-cu wasn't even that great of a game. The thing that we all love about it is the sandbox feel, the community, and the freedom. The game itself was never that great though. THAT is why SWG wasn't a "huge" success (like WoW). It wasn't the underlying philosophy of the game, but the fact that they literally made it poorly (it had so many bugs and whatnot).
Imagine if SWG was made with its Sandbox philosophy, but was made with actual quality (like most of Blizzard's games).
Wow... hit the nail right on its head.. can I quote you? lol...
To answer the question.. what would have happened and it didnt change? Well... the game would still be kicking and have MANY more subs..
I agree fullheartedly.
Originally posted by jat5560
Ever since the NGE was released I have been quiting and then going back to swg. Well, no longer my friends! Luier was created the second day of the CU and he was killed today, he was an elder jedi and that account had over 4 years of vet rewards. He had 2 alts, a BH and a Smug., but are dead now too. I also had a second account with 2 master crafters, they're dead too!
I need to be welcomed!
lol
:)
Welcome friend, consider yourself among the enlightened. :)
Originally posted by tman5
My take is Rubenfield is proud of his efforts, not necessarily of the NGE in total. And why shouldn't he be,
Why shouldn't he be? Oh come on man... I sure as hell would have left with the other devs that did leave when they did this to their customers.. and you know what? Any damn game with those devs that left due to what SoE did to us.. I would gladly try their game any day of the week in the future... its about respect and what is right... Anyone proud to be apart of shafting most of the player base should be asking "would you like fries with that?" Period. Efforts to shaft people SHOULD NEVER be celebrated or be proud of.
if he did the best he could under the circumstances? There were many others involved. Is he really at fault for the calamity of the NGE? Yes um.. yeah.." here you go dev.. please right this code that makes a game that shafts the player base and all what they worked for.. " Yeah.. i would have talked to smed himself and walked out the door, guaranteed.
Is he the fault? No.. if he did his job and not braged about what he did he would be fine.. thats called just doing your job.. but what he did was rub salt in peoples wounds with what he stated. And thats wrong.
Of course, Rubenfield's best bet was to have just stayed quiet, but he had to open his big, fat blog. Just the same, I think he's been pretty forthcoming.
And he will be reamed and riddiculed for doing so... you dont pop someones tires and say.. oh hey i poped your tires and im proud of the effort i took doing it...
Originally posted by Fishermage
Personally I feel the big game has yet to be made. That will combine the best elements of both sandbox and directed action.
It will essentially BE a world, in which you CAN create your own content, but within that world have many quest lines, "theme parks" and so on that people can go through. This way one can have it all, just like we have here on earth -- albeit in a much more interesting setting.
It will have a working player economy where EACH path (the crafting and the looted) will have BOTH integration and separation). Where crafters have to COMPETE with loot and other crafters, as well as using loot to make some of their best stuff.
The "sandbox with toys" dream of Raph Koster, implemented properly.
This is what SWG actually attempted to do, but failed from the start. -- largely due to lack of direction and poor management. They then failed even bigger when they shifted gears in the WRONG direction.
Do I feel the next SW MMO will be that game? I highly doubt it. They don't seem smart enough over at LEC to make this choice. No, this is much more likely to be done by a company like Blizzard, who know what they are doing.
Heh, I really don't think I could add much to this pure hunk of gold. Truth in every form... As much as i liked pre-cu and wish it was back... they still where off the mark to being a true world.. which in all honesty.. i dont think is very hard... just someone needs to step up to the bat and do it ,and do it well.