It's nice to see the inclusion of every current MMO, most voting/awards pre-pick the group they want voters to choose from which is unfair. This left the field wide open for what people like.

The downside of that very fact being that it is tough to choose on some of the categories because looking at the list you realize how many games you have never been inside of to judge them on.

I also like that the categories are broken up, so gameplay is seperate from art etc. Since to me gameplay has 0 to do with art (which is why I don't like the first line in the criteria which mentions art) it's nice to have a category seperation.

Now that I've said that, I've never heard of this expo before. Is this it's first year? Is it big? That kind of information helps determine how much weight a poll like this will matter to anyone outside of these forums. Nice pic on the front page of the site though.

So I'm stuck trying to figure out who to vote for in art and sound. I've heard some newer games I haven't tried have nice art so I'll have to look for footage. And I realized how little I pay attention to the sound in any game I play.

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part.

Originally posted by Mirandel

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part.

Yeah,and I've never really noticed how many people work on them-only when there is a notice of 'x-number of people being laid off' which certainly happened last year.

Hopefully enough people will vote so no group can spam the results.

Originally posted by Liltawen

Originally posted by Mirandel

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part.

 

Yeah,and I've never really noticed how many people work on them-only when there is a notice of 'x-number of people being laid off' which certainly happened last year.

Hopefully enough people will vote so no group can spam the results.

Yes it would of been nice to have that page only have choices that fit their criteria, I just guessed that the one I chose fit since I don't know most companies details.

was this cathegory:

Independent MMO of the Year

made exclusively so Mortal Online can win anything, as it seems it's the only MMO that qualifies. That's pathetic.

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part, literally, theres some kind of bug on the web and i cant vote lol

Some categories i left blank and the other i choose what the mmo genre should mirror at.

But truth to be told none really deserves anything since we have poor to none of those categories, howver if there was a "MEH game of the year" categories it would be a tought fight =p

Thank you for letting us vote. !!!!

Originally posted by Micro_angel

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part, literally, theres some kind of bug on the web and i cant vote lol

I couldn't vote for that category either, it said I had voted already.

Anyway this is an interesting opportunity for us to take part of, thanks MMORPG.com.

Originally posted by Micro_angel

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part, literally, theres some kind of bug on the web and i cant vote lol

I am wondering if the reason it shows no options is because you may have chosen an indie game for the all out "MMO of the Year" category already? If you did NOT choose an independent game for MMO of the Year, perhaps you can still see options available in the Independent category?

I'm guessing here, but I chose an indie game for the straight up "MMO of the Year" and so when I got to the Independent CATEGORY....it looked as if I had already voted for an Indie Game of the Year, when I actually voted for that indie game as full on MMO of the Year, not just Indie MMO. Does that make sense?

Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

Now that I've said that, I've never heard of this expo before. Is this it's first year? Is it big? That kind of information helps determine how much weight a poll like this will matter to anyone outside of these forums. Nice pic on the front page of the site though.

This is the first year for this Expo but I'm looking forward to going to it.   Most of the gaming conferences that I've been to are either on the east or west coast so its very nice to see one that's being hosted in the mid-west instead this time.

Ohhh man.....games that I loved this year missed the list.

BattleForge,Battlefield Heroes,Karos Online :\ C'mon

It only happens if you've already voted through the other categories and I checked in IE 8, FF, and Chrome and it's the same thing, can't place my vote.

I will not be taking part in any of this nonsense.It is just voting based on bias decisions,means nothing to me or anyone else.Do i need an Eve fanbois to tell me he thinks Eve is game of the year?I can pretty much figure that for myself w/o having a voting poll tell me so.Won't matter i will not even watch the results,they are fake and mean nothing.Unless people have played EVERY single game ,they should not  be voting.

We should instead have articles by professionals inside the industry educating players about the gaming industry.If people don't even understand what they are playing or looking at,how could they possibly form any kind of thoughtful decision?So without knowledge  how are the people going to base their voting?>>>bias/fave game nothing more.

MMORPG awards for "best of the year" should confine themselves to MMORPGs actually released in the last year.

Expansions (boxed or digital, like LotRO Shadows of Mirkwood or RoM The Elven Prophesy) are eligible.

To reward MMORPGs that have been chugging along, add categories like Most Improved, Best Continuing Content, Best Community, and Best Scandal (because, admit it, we all love it when it happens to someone else).

I was also unable to vote in the last category, Independent MMO of the year.  I'm using Firefox.

Originally posted by Wizardry

I will not be taking part in any of this nonsense.It is just voting based on bias decisions,means nothing to me or anyone else.Do i need an Eve fanbois to tell me he thinks Eve is game of the year?I can pretty much figure that for myself w/o having a voting poll tell me so.Won't matter i will not even watch the results,they are fake and mean nothing.Unless people have played EVERY single game ,they should not  be voting.

We should instead have articles by professionals inside the industry educating players about the gaming industry.If people don't even understand what they are playing or looking at,how could they possibly form any kind of thoughtful decision?So without knowledge  how are the people going to base their voting?>>>bias/fave game nothing more.

These votes don't pick winners, they pick nominees.  The average hard core MMOer plays more than one MMO, therefore wouldn't automatically just choose 1 for everything.  The top 5 nominees are then looked at by a board of industry and media related to the industry who then choose a winner.

Also of note is that most MMOers will in fact try new games, even if they have a favorite, to see what's new.  Obviously we'll have fan boy votes, no system is perfect.

Originally posted by stormwaltz

MMORPG awards for "best of the year" should confine themselves to MMORPGs actually released in the last year.

Expansions (boxed or digital, like LotRO Shadows of Mirkwood or RoM The Elven Prophesy) are eligible.

To reward MMORPGs that have been chugging along, add categories like Most Improved, Best Continuing Content, Best Community, and Best Scandal (because, admit it, we all love it when it happens to someone else).

That category lists a time frame of when the game had to have been released.  Nominations that come in for games not released during that year period, will be ignored.  There is a category for MMOs that have been "chugging along", it's called "outstanding new content" ;)

Guild Wars is split into three choices, which isn't fair. You don't have other games broken down by expansion, so even while the GW expansions are playable on their own, it should just be one game, i.e. Guild Wars. It isn't like they are running three different games, everyone uses the same client and can play together in the PvP areas, just certain areas, features and skills are turned off if you didn't buy that part.

Originally posted by Liltawen

Originally posted by Mirandel

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part.

 

Yeah,and I've never really noticed how many people work on them-only when there is a notice of 'x-number of people being laid off' which certainly happened last year.

Hopefully enough people will vote so no group can spam the results.

Not only that, but you can't even vote for independent games that are still under development. My vote would have went all the way to Infinity: The Quest for Earth: www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/241/Infinity-The-Quest-for-Earth.html which has been under development for around four years now, which is understandable due to the fact that it's a single guy doing all the back end and most of the front end work on that game.

Edit: The last substantial game update was this galaxy generation video: www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php The game universe will put all others to shame.

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by Liltawen

Originally posted by Mirandel

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part.

 

Yeah,and I've never really noticed how many people work on them-only when there is a notice of 'x-number of people being laid off' which certainly happened last year.

Hopefully enough people will vote so no group can spam the results.

 

Not only that, but you can't even vote for independent games that are still under development. My vote would have went all the way to Infinity: The Quest for Earth: www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/241/Infinity-The-Quest-for-Earth.html which has been under development for around four years now, which is understandable due to the fact that it's a single guy doing all the back end and most of the front end work on that game.

Edit: The last substantial game update was this galaxy generation video: www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php The game universe will put all others to shame.

There are many Indie games which have been built over several years, some by a single or a couple people (Minions of Mirth for example.) which are released.  The reason we can't allow 'in-development' considerations is that there are over 150 MMOs in development at any given time and we'd have to spend a lot more time than any of us have evaluating them.

Originally posted by Beka

Guild Wars is split into three choices, which isn't fair. You don't have other games broken down by expansion, so even while the GW expansions are playable on their own, it should just be one game, i.e. Guild Wars. It isn't like they are running three different games, everyone uses the same client and can play together in the PvP areas, just certain areas, features and skills are turned off if you didn't buy that part.

 

I noticed that as well. Seems a bit odd.

I also think it's fairly dumb to have us vote on a category that includes games ineligible for that nomination. Looking at a list of 100 games I'm not going to have any clue which ones have a crew of only 10 people. I mean what percentage of the population actually knows that sort of thing? 1% maybe? Geez, I've been gaming since the invention of the wheel and although I can vaguely recall reading about some independent games here and there I couldn't remember the name of one to save my life. Give me a list of 20 games that actually qualify and I might actually recognize a couple. That's just silly and poorly designed.

Bad poll setup... Its hard to tell who im clicking on when the options are centerd and the Dots are Far left... Needs some color stripes, or highlites or something...

thanks for letting us vote but unfortunate i hope its ok i voted for things that have bean out for over 3 years because i really couldn't see anything recent deserving of mmo of the year

edit: its a little confusing what we are clicking perhaps a 1 line separation between games would be good

wow (not the game)...

i though i'd been redirected to mmorpg.com's game list page...

so many games to choose only one and i probably played  3 or 4 from that list

i could only based my votes on that games

LOTRO FTW   XD

Originally posted by dishmal

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by Liltawen

Originally posted by Mirandel

There are no options to choose from at the "Independent game" part.

 

Yeah,and I've never really noticed how many people work on them-only when there is a notice of 'x-number of people being laid off' which certainly happened last year.

Hopefully enough people will vote so no group can spam the results.

 

Not only that, but you can't even vote for independent games that are still under development. My vote would have went all the way to Infinity: The Quest for Earth: www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/241/Infinity-The-Quest-for-Earth.html which has been under development for around four years now, which is understandable due to the fact that it's a single guy doing all the back end and most of the front end work on that game.

Edit: The last substantial game update was this galaxy generation video: www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php The game universe will put all others to shame.

 

There are many Indie games which have been built over several years, some by a single or a couple people (Minions of Mirth for example.) which are released.  The reason we can't allow 'in-development' considerations is that there are over 150 MMOs in development at any given time and we'd have to spend a lot more time than any of us have evaluating them.

That's a good reason, I can live with it. I hope Infinity will be on that list one day!

Cool! Last page is working right now.

edit: On a second thought, should WOW be on the independent game list?
I know you just threw all games that are released, but do you seriously expect players to know which games qualify? I know WoW does not, but i'm not sure about a few other less known titles.

Nominate the Noob Comic for the web comic section

Thanks for letting us vote.Well done with alot of options.  Very easy to choose the game you want without confusion.  Design is simple. . .click the circle next-to-game-name.

I hope that World of Warcraft wins.

Not because its so awesome but because the competition is so awful.

So far, my votes are:

Game of the Year - World of Warcraft

Best Game Design - Dark Age of Camelot

Best Artistic Design - Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Outstanding New Content - World of Warcraft

Best Sound Design - World of Warcraft

Best Cinematic - World of Warcraft

Best Costume Design - Champions Onlin

Independent MMO of the Year - Undecided

I have no idea who the independent developers in the genre are, because I don't pay attention to that stuff. I just pay attention to the game, and if it's good or not. I do recognize game company names, but I wouldn't know if they're independent or not, nor would I know how many developers they have. I'm the same way with music and movies. I don't care who the actor is, just if they act good or not. I may over a period of many years come to know the name of the actor if I consistently see that actor in a movie and like him/her. Same with music. I just turn on the radio and listen to it. I can care less who sings what, since I don't buy CD's.

So those reading this, can you make a list of independent developers, so that I can make a decision?

Thanks

RuneScape all the way =)

Fallen Earth wins for me for best orginality in an MMO in a LONG time! May not be the best for graphics, but for a sandbox MMO, it outshines everyone!

where is Valkyria Sky on the list? :P

Originally posted by drel

Fallen Earth wins for me for best orginality in an MMO in a LONG time! May not be the best for graphics, but for a sandbox MMO, it outshines everyone!

I second that :P. And I must say, that I even love the graphics of the game. When set to highest option, I often caught myself watching the sunset or surrounding areas.
 

Originally posted by Fail

Originally posted by drel

Fallen Earth wins for me for best orginality in an MMO in a LONG time! May not be the best for graphics, but for a sandbox MMO, it outshines everyone!

I second that :P. And I must say, that I even love the graphics of the game. When set to highest option, I often caught myself watching the sunset or surrounding areas.
 

Same here. This MMO is such a blast. It's rough on the edges, but what would you expect from an independent developer, they don't have the $$, and still, they manage to make such a good game (instead of big $$ developers like Cryptic, Mythic) . Icarus Studio have their act together, that's for sure. This game is going to be big.

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Originally posted by Wizardry
I will not be taking part in any of this nonsense.It is just voting based on bias decisions,means nothing to me or anyone else.Do i need an Eve fanbois to tell me he thinks Eve is game of the year?I can pretty much figure that for myself w/o having a voting poll tell me so.Won't matter i will not even watch the results,they are fake and mean nothing.Unless people have played EVERY single game ,they should not  be voting.
We should instead have articles by professionals inside the industry educating players about the gaming industry.If people don't even understand what they are playing or looking at,how could they possibly form any kind of thoughtful decision?So without knowledge  how are the people going to base their voting?>>>bias/fave game nothing more.

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Oh yes. Because letting only professionals judge gives such useful outcomes for fans....like American Idol for music.

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Originally posted by Beka
Guild Wars is split into three choices, which isn't fair. You don't have other games broken down by expansion, so even while the GW expansions are playable on their own, it should just be one game, i.e. Guild Wars. It isn't like they are running three different games, everyone uses the same client and can play together in the PvP areas, just certain areas, features and skills are turned off if you didn't buy that part.
 

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Same issue with City of Heroes/Villains. Except in fact there is no difference anymore, they are sold as a package.

Both games should just be added together in the calculations into GW and CoX.