I'm glad to know that Blizz has finally owned up to the fact that WoW is a subscription-based item mall game. I guess they're not making enough extra money off of server changes, race changes, faction changes, sex changes...

Blizzard has finally done it, lol. It's pretty funny to see them join the cash-shop bandwagon. $10 a pet is INSANE though.

Stunning. It's like a surreal farce.

Like Bill Gates selling his autograph on a street corner.

Blizzard's rep is going to take a beating for the sheer unrepentant greed they are exhibiting these days.

 My god, how shamefull is this, WoW is now a RMT game with subscription..... LOL

Like i said some time ago..... MILK THAT COW BABY!!!!!

LOL, what a joke.  What's next, pay real money to repair armour?

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

Originally posted by Ruyn

LOL, what a joke.  What's next, pay real money to repair armour?

Kostic just screamed "Eureka!".

Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

Actually we're entitled to bitch about it now.

I DO wonder why you are here defending it, though.

In regards to the sheer amount of money Blizzard makes just off the subscriptions and their desire to milk players even more with stupid crap like this...

I wonder just how much more proof is needed to demonstrate that Blizzard stopped being about games for gamers back in, oh, 2005.

I really laugh at how they throw that 'charity' piece in. That's just insulting.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

Actually we're entitled to bitch about it now.

I DO wonder why you are here defending it, though.

Why wouldn't I? You're disappointed I'm not one of you guys who doesn't appreciate games? Shoot.

 Blizz has no shame, they sold it lol.

Chances that i am back to wow when cataclysm is out just reduced even more.

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

Originally posted by Tyrantas

 Blizz has no shame, they sold it lol.

Chances that i am back to wow when cataclysm is out just reduced even more.

I'd already decided against coming back for Cataclysm, but now, I'm thinking Starcraft 2 and their gouging of that IP is out for me, as well.

I miss the blizzard who cared about the games they made not lining there pocketbooks. If you make a good product the money will follow.

It is not the RMT that bothers me,it is coming to all games eventually.

What bothers me is using the charity as a crutch.What happens to the item mall after the end of the year?A new charity?There is only 2 months left in the year,so what happens to the money after?

This proves what i already knew about WOW gamers,they really love their superficial trinkets like pets.I ma sure their marketing staff came up with pets as the best possible way to make money.

Anyhoot,if they can at least continue the donations to several different charities,i am all for it,i will look at only the positive.Part of my problem is that i am usually a skeptic or realist,i need some proof that 50% is going to charity,is there a way they can prove it?

Originally posted by Wizardry

It is not the RMT that bothers me,it is coming to all games eventually.

What bothers me is using the charity as a crutch.What happens to the item mall after the end of the year?A new charity?There is only 2 months left in the year,so what happens to the money after?

This proves what i already knew about WOW gamers,they really love their superficial trinkets like pets.I ma sure their marketing staff came up with pets as the best possible way to make money.

Anyhoot,if they can at least continue the donations to several different charities,i am all for it,i will look at only the positive.Part of my problem is that i am usually a skeptic or realist,i need some proof that 50% is going to charity,is there a way they can prove it?

No.

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Exactly.

And to those of you complaining - why bother? You don't play the game anyway so it isn't your money. Is Blizzard forcing your hand? Nope. Do you have an option to buy them? Yes. Do you have too? Nope. Does this mean Blizzard will add game changing items? Nope (that is a slippery slope argument).

In the end, it doesn't matter. People who hate this won't play WOW anyway and those who do play don't care. Personally, I see it as a great way to raise some money for a wonderful charity and at a great time of the year.

Blizzard knows how badly micro-transactions + a sub fee can cause your game to crash and burn and I am not worried about them adding additional game-changing items any time soon. And if they do you and I can vote on it in the best way possible - cancel our accounts.

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Are you that naive to think their main goal is charity?

Wake up dude, if that was the case they would donate 100% not 50%.... its a stupid minipet why do they need 5 dollars for it?

Its shamefull yes, it shows no character yes, will they expand it with more stuff, definately

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Nice homework - a copy & paste from the WoW home site. BFD

If it's about charity - why isn't it BOTH pets, 100%, and not for a limited time?

WoW has made them BILLIONS.

Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

Because:

1. It's a function of the game that isn't needed. The move is purely for financial gain. They don't need financial gain. Vanity pets are elsewhere acquirable (TCG, collector's edition, etc), but now move to a paying system.

2. If they were doing a true fundraiser, because they don't need the money, they would move all profits to the charity in question.

1+2= 3. They are using a charity to make money, if viewed from the charity angle. That's insulting. No matter how you dice it.

Lets all give a big hand to the CEO of Actvision/Blizzard.

 I'd like to see 50% of all proceeds going to different charities based on the pet purchased. Sure, this can be interpreted as a grab at more money, and it is, but there is a side effect that could be used to better society.

Money and Politics are the root of all evil, but sometimes, you gotta play the game to make a difference.

Originally posted by tryklon

Are you that naive to think their main goal is charity?

Wake up dude, if that was the case they would donate 100% not 50%.... its a stupid minipet why do they need 5 dollars for it?

Its shamefull yes, it shows no character yes, will they expand it with more stuff, definately

This,

and not only 100% of 1 pet but both

Originally posted by drajaic

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Actually, lots of people HAVE done their homework and know that this is just another thing in the long line of Blizz selling people things ON TOP OF a subscription. Here's a novel idea... some people don't like having cash shops on top of subscriptions.

Also, anyone who thinks that the whole "50% being donated!" is sooo compassionate really needs to have their head examined. It's a marketing ploy. They're trying to distract people from the fact that they're selling people items that, according to Blizz's own user agreement, THEY STILL OWN, that probably took a couple of programmers half a day to get running. It's like me trying to sell someone a bag of air and then claiming that I'm being so generous because I'm going to donate 50% of the proceeds to the give-some-kids-some-air foundation.

coming soon*

buy a full suit of epix, half the proceeds go to the [insert charity of the month here], a full suit only $200us.

(btw, nice to see Bliz jump on the bandwagon after guildwars2 lets a make a wish kid add content to the upcoming game)

oh, and half the panda dude's proceeds, not the other purely bliz profit pet :)

$5 of $10 goes to charity?  For a virtual pet that maybe took all of an hour to produce?  I support the charity idea, but get real Blizzard - you're ripping everyone off with this crap, especially those that actually need the Make-a-Wish foundation.

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Lets all give a big hand to the CEO of Actvision/Blizzard.

I was thinking more of a fist, right now.

Technicaly its not an in-game store, I dont have to buy credits with real money assign it to my account then walk up to an in game NPC and trade my credits for items.

For years now I could search ebay for ingame pets shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html and buy them.

But yes its does set in a motion a cash shop, but as long as it remains vanity pets\items who cares, some one who buys a pandaren does not do +5% dps or any other advantage over me. 

I can see one of these pets being a nice gift to a WoW player and with money going to charity thats even better.

Blizzard have been open for a while in that they might explore micro-transactions: www.videogamer.com/news/blizzards_tom_chilton_on_the_future_of_wow.html

VideoGamer.com: Will WoW always be subscription based? Could it ever have a micro-transaction/free-to-play model?

TC: I certainly think it's possible that we could do some kind of micro-transaction stuff. Whether or not World of Warcraft ever goes the direction of, I guess like Anarchy Online has gone the direction of going free-to-play with micro-transactions. Whether we ever shift to a free-to-play model is really too hard to say at this point. Anything I say now could easily five years from now end up seeming like, oh my gosh, that was an incredibly dumb thing to say, how naive!

Even blizzard know times will change, might as well set things in motion now.

People whined how bad they hated the subscription+item mall. Now you all have it in WoW. A sad state mmos are heading into. I should suspect many will be leaving WoW now because of the item mall just like many left other mmos for the same reason ? I'm waiting to hear all the excuses from the diehards saying that it is ok now.

This will surely hurt he game.

/sarchasm

Originally posted by coffee

Technicaly its not an in-game store, I dont have to buy credits with real money assign it to my account then walk up to an in game NPC and trade my credits for items.

For years now I could search ebay for ingame pets shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html and buy them.

But yes its does set in a motion a cash shop, but as long as it remains vanity pets\items who cares, some one who buys a pandaren does not do +5% dps or any other advantage over me. 

I can see one of these pets being a nice gift to a WoW player and with money going to charity thats even better.

Blizzard have been open for a while in that they might explore micro-transactions: www.videogamer.com/news/blizzards_tom_chilton_on_the_future_of_wow.html

VideoGamer.com: Will WoW always be subscription based? Could it ever have a micro-transaction/free-to-play model?

TC: I certainly think it's possible that we could do some kind of micro-transaction stuff. Whether or not World of Warcraft ever goes the direction of, I guess like Anarchy Online has gone the direction of going free-to-play with micro-transactions. Whether we ever shift to a free-to-play model is really too hard to say at this point. Anything I say now could easily five years from now end up seeming like, oh my gosh, that was an incredibly dumb thing to say, how naive!

Even blizzard know times will change, might as well set things in motion now.

Did I miss the announcement that WoW was going F2P?

As for "who cares?", follow this thread and find out.

Originally posted by coffee

Technicaly its not an in-game store, I dont have to buy credits with real money assign it to my account then walk up to an in game NPC and trade my credits for items.

For years now I could search ebay for ingame pets shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html and buy them.

But yes its does set in a motion a cash shop, but as long as it remains vanity pets\items who cares, some one who buys a pandaren does not do +5% dps or any other advantage over me. 

I can see one of these pets being a nice gift to a WoW player and with money going to charity thats even better.

Blizzard have been open for a while in that they might explore micro-transactions: www.videogamer.com/news/blizzards_tom_chilton_on_the_future_of_wow.html

VideoGamer.com: Will WoW always be subscription based? Could it ever have a micro-transaction/free-to-play model?

TC: I certainly think it's possible that we could do some kind of micro-transaction stuff. Whether or not World of Warcraft ever goes the direction of, I guess like Anarchy Online has gone the direction of going free-to-play with micro-transactions. Whether we ever shift to a free-to-play model is really too hard to say at this point. Anything I say now could easily five years from now end up seeming like, oh my gosh, that was an incredibly dumb thing to say, how naive!

Even blizzard know times will change, might as well set things in motion now.

ooh now you get another pet in addition to the retarded battle.net penguin.  lame.  Glad I let the forced Battle.net be the final nail in the coffin on my account.

Do you, as a player, get a tax receipt for donation purposes?  I'm guessing you don't...but I'm sure blizzard does.  I'm Canadian and not sure if it works the same way in the US but here if you contribute to a charity you can reduce your income when you claim it on income taxes so you get taxed less.

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

90% of those complaining don't play WOW anyway. If this causes subs to be lost, Blizzard will remove the option....and yes it is an option.

And the milk flows like water, have fun wowers! lol

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by coffee

Technicaly its not an in-game store, I dont have to buy credits with real money assign it to my account then walk up to an in game NPC and trade my credits for items.

For years now I could search ebay for ingame pets shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html and buy them.

But yes its does set in a motion a cash shop, but as long as it remains vanity pets\items who cares, some one who buys a pandaren does not do +5% dps or any other advantage over me. 

I can see one of these pets being a nice gift to a WoW player and with money going to charity thats even better.

Blizzard have been open for a while in that they might explore micro-transactions: www.videogamer.com/news/blizzards_tom_chilton_on_the_future_of_wow.html

VideoGamer.com: Will WoW always be subscription based? Could it ever have a micro-transaction/free-to-play model?

TC: I certainly think it's possible that we could do some kind of micro-transaction stuff. Whether or not World of Warcraft ever goes the direction of, I guess like Anarchy Online has gone the direction of going free-to-play with micro-transactions. Whether we ever shift to a free-to-play model is really too hard to say at this point. Anything I say now could easily five years from now end up seeming like, oh my gosh, that was an incredibly dumb thing to say, how naive!

Even blizzard know times will change, might as well set things in motion now.

Did I miss the announcement that WoW was going F2P?

As for "who cares?", follow this thread and find out.

Sadly the majority of ppl in this thread and website are not too fond of WoW so its really not proper to take the comments in this thread to represent the millions playing WoW.

Originally posted by blackthornn

Originally posted by coffee

Technicaly its not an in-game store, I dont have to buy credits with real money assign it to my account then walk up to an in game NPC and trade my credits for items.

For years now I could search ebay for ingame pets shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html and buy them.

But yes its does set in a motion a cash shop, but as long as it remains vanity pets\items who cares, some one who buys a pandaren does not do +5% dps or any other advantage over me. 

I can see one of these pets being a nice gift to a WoW player and with money going to charity thats even better.

Blizzard have been open for a while in that they might explore micro-transactions: www.videogamer.com/news/blizzards_tom_chilton_on_the_future_of_wow.html

VideoGamer.com: Will WoW always be subscription based? Could it ever have a micro-transaction/free-to-play model?

TC: I certainly think it's possible that we could do some kind of micro-transaction stuff. Whether or not World of Warcraft ever goes the direction of, I guess like Anarchy Online has gone the direction of going free-to-play with micro-transactions. Whether we ever shift to a free-to-play model is really too hard to say at this point. Anything I say now could easily five years from now end up seeming like, oh my gosh, that was an incredibly dumb thing to say, how naive!

Even blizzard know times will change, might as well set things in motion now.

ooh now you get another pet in addition to the retarded battle.net penguin.  lame.  Glad I let the forced Battle.net be the final nail in the coffin on my account.

The "forced" battle.net because companies that buy toons won't buy ones that are connected to battle.net accounts.

@ Ruyn

You do, provided it's above a certain amount (I think it's 150 annually?). But yes, this brings up another good point. The highest tax bracket in the US is 45%. This applies to individuals. Businesses do not pay these sorts of taxes to begin with. Basically Blizzard can use this pet scheme to collect more money than if they asked for 5.50 a pet. Don't think for a second budget analysts haven't thought this north and south as how to best milk any system they put into motion.

It isn't evil to assume such things. It's being naive that allows the evil to happen. Write that down.

Originally posted by templarga

90% of those complaining don't play WOW anyway. If this causes subs to be lost, Blizzard will remove the option....and yes it is an option.

Well we all know what causes such a stir, WOW fans. You can find them on many a forum bashing other companies for this type of business practice. Now it's a bit of revenge I guess, a dish of their own medicine as they say?

Personally for me you're right I really don't care what happens in WOW, I don't play. I do enjoy a good bout of drama though :).

Originally posted by Kilmar

And the milk flows like water, have fun wowers! lol

MMMmm and its fortifed with Iron, Calcium and Vitamin D.  Thats tasty milk I want more. 

Originally posted by coffee

Sadly the majority of ppl in this thread and website are not too fond of WoW so its really not proper to take the comments in this thread to represent the millions playing WoW.

You keep thinking that.

Follow this topic on a few gaming sites for a couple of weeks and watch the backlash.

I've never cared about item malls that held fluff items in a subscription game. it was obvious a long time ago blizzard would do this after they started offering all the services like transfers, name changes, etc. You have to be an idiot to not see this coming.

Any people that do leave (which is probably a small amount) will be counteracted by all the people who do buy pets (which is probably a decent amount of people). They pretty much had this going on before with the tcg for special mounts and such, and that certainly is more costly trying to get those buying cards than just buying a pet.

This is actually a smart move by blizzard. And as mentioned earlier, people complaining here don't like WoW, so mostly they just use this for fuel to prove they were right all along about dreaded WoW, hehe.

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

But still $10 is pretty steep for a virtual pet.

 This is silly. I guess they will bleed the cow for all its worth which is sad really.

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

Yes 50% is remarkable to be honest. To be honest, anything over 25% is good and usually its around 10%. I know huge charities in the US that spend 90 cents on the dollar for administrative costs. Before people complain that 50% is "insulting" , maybe you should research how charities really work.

To see people whine and cry about this, well it's pathetic...

Have you seen the ASIAN cash shops? Really, have you?

Fucking pathetic...

Blizzard probably didn't even have cash shop in mind when they set this up...

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by coffee

Sadly the majority of ppl in this thread and website are not too fond of WoW so its really not proper to take the comments in this thread to represent the millions playing WoW.

You keep thinking that.

 

Follow this topic on a few gaming sites for a couple of weeks and watch the backlash.

I just logged into WoW.

There are not people running around shouting "the end is nigh", general chat is the usual "LF1M tank Naxx 10", no mention at all of this "cash shop".

I asked the 14 guild mates online, 1 said he was worried where it might go, the other 13 said they dont care.

So I asked Actual players and shortly watched general chat and WoW is just the same.

Blizzard are not a stupid company they know that subscription MMO's are becoming less attractive, the paid4 characters transfers, faction transfers etc seem to be doing well so blizzard are now trialing paid4 vanity items.  Its good business, blizzard dont stay on top by sitting on their hands.

Originally posted by battleaxe

$5 of $10 goes to charity?  For a virtual pet that maybe took all of an hour to produce?  I support the charity idea, but get real Blizzard - you're ripping everyone off with this crap, especially those that actually need the Make-a-Wish foundation.

It's $5 of ONE of the two pets, and only for a couple of months.

Its a bloody pet.  Are you going to get an advantage in game with this????????? NO!. is THE PANDAREN MONEK pet cool? YES!.  iS NAME CHANGE, SERVER CHANGE, RACE CHANGE, affect you? NO its the same bloody thing u monkeys.

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

You do realize it's the consumer who pays the charity, not a company like blizzard? If blizzard really wanted to be "charitable" they'd simply take some off their own end to give, such as from subs. It's not like there was any real work done on their end to warrant giving them half of what you'd like to donate.

What exactly are "high school drop up smarts"? How do you go about debunking them?

I liked WoW up until this very moment.

I had fun in WoW and I still do, but I do not support item malls.

No more WoW for me.

How can people be so naive to think that charity is the main purpose of this move?

Blizzard ist just testing the water, cloaked as charity -you can be shure of that.

Originally posted by VoIgore

How can people be so naive to think that charity is the main purpose of this move?

Blizzard ist just testing the water, cloaked as charity -you can be shure of that.

And you can be sure that they're not.

Fool.

 How do people not see the big picture? It's only a pet ... No shit , its only a pet. Tommorrow , what will it be? Little by little they take our money and use time and resources to design content I have to pay extra for? I know, I know ... the TGC was more or less the same thing, but this really does it for me. I'm probably better off anyway ........

Originally posted by blackthornn

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Some one has to be the YING to the YANG.

I dont get irritated in fact I have a good laugh on these forums reading peoples responses and seeing them blow things out of all proportions.

Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

Get over what? The fact that WoW ruined the MMORPG genre by making casual, themepark and linear norms in MMORPGs and bringing in millions of retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and is now milking those retards for money through RMT?

No, I think that will take a while longer....

Blizzard may be out to make money, just like any other corp, but they are solely responsible for ruining the MMORPG genre.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

 

Get over what? The fact that WoW ruined the MMORPG by making casual, themepark and linear norms and bringing in millions of retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and is now milking those retards for money through RMTs?

No, I think that will take a while longer....

Get a grip please.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

 

Get over what? The fact that WoW ruined the MMORPG genre by making casual, themepark and linear norms in MMORPGs and bringing in millions of retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and is now milking those retards for money through RMT?

No, I think that will take a while longer....

Blizzard may be out to make money, just like any other corp, but they are solely responsible for ruining the MMORPG genre.

..... they also cause cancer and funded the 911 terrorists.

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Ive never hated WoW.. Ive always repected Blizzard for the good games they make..

But this is a sad day for the MMO industry and it sickens me that some WoW fans are defending this move :(

$10 for a  pet when you are paying $15 a month already????

Originally posted by Papadam

Ive never hated WoW.. Ive always repected Blizzard for the good games they make..

But this is a sad day for the MMO industry and it sickens me that some WoW fans are defending this move :(

$10 for a  pet when you are paying $15 a month already????

What are you on?  Its a sad day for the industry when blizzard sells 2 pets????  nEWSFLASH THEY ALREADY sell, server moves,  for years, faction changes, race change etc?  This sickens you lol????  hell then everything Soe does with EQ2 and vanguard must sicken you because they sell reall ingame items that affect the game.

Originally posted by Papadam

Ive never hated WoW.. Ive always repected Blizzard for the good games they make..

But this is a sad day for the MMO industry and it sickens me that some WoW fans are defending this move :(

$10 for a  pet when you are paying $15 a month already????

Your right I MUST buy that pet cause if I dont I will not get invited to raids.. oh wait,its just a vanity pet.

I could of cause get the some of the 140 ingame vanity pets already in game, over 100 are free (no part of TCG) www.warcraftpets.com/wow.pets/index.asp But thats silly I must have a min lich and panderan.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

 

Get over what? The fact that WoW ruined the MMORPG genre by making casual, themepark and linear norms in MMORPGs and bringing in millions of retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and is now milking those retards for money through RMT?

No, I think that will take a while longer....

Blizzard may be out to make money, just like any other corp, but they are solely responsible for ruining the MMORPG genre.

The millions of retards existed long before wow released, but the problem is now "everyone" is dabbling in direct RMT.

There is no excuse for a cash shop from blizzard, none except they want more money for the same effort they were putting into the game last month.  It isn't like they hired extra developers to create these pets.  The pets are something people quest for in game.  Oh well. 

Anyone advocating support or apathy about this needs to rethink their positioning and look at the precedent being set.  If a company can ask for $10 for a cosmetic pet that used to be part of the normal free updates, there is no reason to think they will not do the same for a sword, spell or a dungeon.  They will continue to push and push until they make more money from the "premium" members and eventually push the "standard" members out the games.

Sure it is just a "few"  "cosmetic" items now.... Think about where it will be in the future.  We are making our own beds and don't even realize it.

Originally posted by blackthornn

Originally posted by Ruyn

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such hate for me, come... sit lets talk this through like adults.  FYI I aint paid a wow sub for almost 8 months. Scroll of resurrection FTW!!! /flex

Originally posted by Yamota

Get over what? The fact that WoW ruined the MMORPG genre by making casual, themepark and linear norms in MMORPGs and bringing in millions of retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and is now milking those retards for money through RMT?

No, I think that will take a while longer....

Blizzard may be out to make money, just like any other corp, but they are solely responsible for ruining the MMORPG genre.

And people like you kept the MMO genre in your parents basement, nerdraging over stupid shit such as this, bitter because WoW brought real normal people into your fantasy worlds, making you just as inferior there as you are in RL.

It all balances out, really.

My bank just sent me a notice that they offer multiple types of insurance for almost anything I need.

They also offered Remote Digital Storage to help back up everything important to me for a low price.

Looks like my ISP has the same offer...

Oh, and let's not forget that USPS is offering holiday deals on cards, special boxes, and ribbons...

...

Every freaking service in the world is offering extra items for purchase... particularly subscription services... and you are upset that Blizzard is now introducing this?

Subscription-only services are dying... this is the next step for them to increase profit... and in some cases save themselves.

Quit acting shocked, insulted, and apalled. You should have seen this coming 5 years ago.

Pull your head out of the ground and start paying attention to the rest of the world.

This industry is now officially in the sewer.

Any more crap and the the puppy gets it. Oh BTW this is one of the new pets beeing added in 3.3, and its FREE! to ago along with the 100+ other FREE ingame pets.

Collector's edition included a pet. People paid an extra for that.

By almost every official event, codes for pets are given out to attendants, which have to pay the entrance ticket.

Many of these codes are sold in ebay between others against the EULA for more money than that.

So the news is...?

Now that the precedent has been set, where do you think the genre will take us?

Originally posted by Pedrote

Collector's edition included a pet. People paid an extra for that.

By almost every official event, codes for pets are given out to attendants, which have to pay the entrance ticket.

Many of these codes are sold in ebay between others against the EULA for more money than that.

So the news is...?

 News is, its the last straw? News is, they pushed the envelop too far? They will more than likely make more money, most people don't see the big picture or don't mind being milked like a cow. But I wont be a part of it, but Im probably better off ...been playing wow for a long time. Maybe its tieme for some new scenery.

Originally posted by coffee

Any more crap and the the puppy gets it. Oh BTW this is one of the new pets beeing added in 3.3, and its FREE! to ago along with the 100+ other FREE ingame pets.

 

Who cares how many were free. 

It isn't like the cost to develop a virtual pet increased to the point that it requires blizzard charging $10 for it.  There is no justification for selling virtual items except the company wants to make more money.

This is a net loss to players, because things like this were typically designed as in game rewards for in game achievements. 

It is a conflicting design process that has no benefit to players.  Paying money to avoid playing a game is just stupid, but sadly there are stupid people who want to do just that and even more that advocate this. 

All the same arguments we are going to see here are the exact same ones we saw over at the SOE forums when soe started doing this.  Go ask EQ2 players if their cash shop and card games are no big deal now.  

its there last plea for some cash before the game dies

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Yamota

Get over what? The fact that WoW ruined the MMORPG genre by making casual, themepark and linear norms in MMORPGs and bringing in millions of retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and is now milking those retards for money through RMT?

No, I think that will take a while longer....

Blizzard may be out to make money, just like any other corp, but they are solely responsible for ruining the MMORPG genre.

 

And people like you kept the MMO genre in your parents basement, nerdraging over stupid shit such as this, bitter because WoW brought real normal people into your fantasy worlds, making you just as inferior there as you are in RL.

It all balances out, really.

If by normal you mean lazy bums that cannot be bothered to be challenged when playing a computer game but rather wants everything easy then yeah.

oo lets make big shiny arrows that leads me to the quest where I have to kill 10 rabbits and then another arrow to lead me back to the NPC that gave me the quest. And lets have zero death penalty in case those rabbits somehow manage to kill me.

As for me in RL, RL as in games I like to be challenged. Maybe you prefer to play against opponents that are weaker than you are so that you feel big but not all people are like that.

And I am not "nerdraging". I couldnt give a flying f***k that Blizzard uses RMTs. Just stating that the hate towards Blizzard is justified as they have ruined the MMORPG genre.

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

The option for cash shop is not available as a reason for leaving yet.  I'll give it another few days to see if they even put it up.

However, don't tell people to get on with their lives.  This is current and even though you don't like the feedback, it is relevent. 

Don't tell people to go away quietly.  You are on a discussion forum FFS if you don't like the reaction don't read the fucking thread. 

Originally posted by coffee

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

and also do not buy future blizzard games or other games from other companies who follow a similar business model.

Originally posted by Ruyn

Now that the precedent has been set, where do you think the genre will take us?

 

As already stated by many posts in this thread, it is not Blizzard who sets the precedent, this happened in other games before. No news.

Originally posted by Ruyn

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Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

I dont play wow anymore. If I did, I wouldnt care. I never cared about fluff items. I despise pets and mini pets. As long as games dont sell gameplay items Im cool. Also, server transfers and character name and appearance changes are not micro transactions, they are services.

its just a stupid mini panda...

Heres the last pet I got a few weeks back... I cannot believe I had to pay to get him.. oh wait no.. no it was FREE.

"hello there little fella... you hungry?, yes you are.. awww yes you are..."

I'm loling so hard at this thread for 2 reasons:
-Thinking how hard Bobby Kotick is laughing at the moment;
-How people say that MMORPG genre means WoW and how adding a cash shop in it will kill the entire genre.
 

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

Originally posted by Ruyn

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Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

What's sad is the fact that bioware sells dungeons for real money.
 

I;m about ready to flip the online gaming world off and dust off my nintendo. The games were more fun back then anyway.

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

Originally posted by Ruyn

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Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

Thank you...I have my moments.  But it's also showing a point.  Even a website like this is a business trying to make money.  Advertising is getting more and more obtrusive.  It's up to the user to make their voices heard.

As to the other poster who said that the precedent has already been set by other companies, which ones?  Which ones charge a monthly subscription fee, paid expansions and now paid item(s).

just you wait, they will start to sell gear and levels when the xpac comes out. I guarantee it.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

You do realize it's the consumer who pays the charity, not a company like blizzard? If blizzard really wanted to be "charitable" they'd simply take some off their own end to give, such as from subs. It's not like there was any real work done on their end to warrant giving them half of what you'd like to donate.

 

What exactly are "high school drop up smarts"? How do you go about debunking them?

I start by learning to proof read my work. Then again I am not a LA major. :)

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

 

But still $10 is pretty steep for a virtual pet.

It is but if you look up the price's of stuff on Maple Story and the amount they make from their cash up every 3 months. $10 is nothing.

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

 

Yes 50% is remarkable to be honest. To be honest, anything over 25% is good and usually its around 10%. I know huge charities in the US that spend 90 cents on the dollar for administrative costs. Before people complain that 50% is "insulting" , maybe you should research how charities really work.

Yes 50% for something that the user doesn't ever really hold it just follows them around on a virtual world is amazing.

OMG that panda pet is worth $100, $10 is a bargin www.youtube.com/watch

Also if Blizzard wants to be so charitable why don't they simply grab a chunk full of their own money and donate it. Why does this have to come from the general public who are already paying to play. They could have announced that 100% of the profits from the pet store goes to the charity. Sounds pretty much like Blizzard is more than happy to donate as long as it isn't their money, oh and they'll take $5.00 of that charity money too.

So if Blizzard could add 100+ Pets for free, why do they need to charge $10 for theese 2?

Because there are alot of collectors playing WoW who will want everything no matter what so Blizzard make some easy money from them...

Im starting to feel glad that Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 just seems like cartoonified upgrades to the old games now :/

Originally posted by Ruyn

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

Originally posted by Ruyn

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Haha. That caused me to laugh pretty hard.

 

Thank you...I have my moments.  But it's also showing a point.  Even a website like this is a business trying to make money.  Advertising is getting more and more obtrusive.  It's up to the user to make their voices heard.

 

As to the other poster who said that the precedent has already been set by other companies, which ones?  Which ones charge a monthly subscription fee, paid expansions and now paid item(s).

Everquest 1 and 2, age of conan, lord of the rings online to name a few off the top of my head.

Eq1 and 2 sell a variety of usefull and useless items. AoC you can buy time into the new account age program, lotro on top of the expansion is shilling out 2 extra character slots and shared banking outside of it,.

It's spread and there is no stopping it.

Blizzard, doing something shamelessly greedy?

No, surely not.

Why is anyone surprised by this? Blizzard has been testing the RMT waters for some time. They have been testing the community to see just what they can get away with in this vein. They want money. And apparently they are getting it.

Originally posted by Kungaloosh1

 

It's spread and there is no stopping it.

There is - stop buying it.

Originally posted by Dubhlaith

Blizzard, doing something shamelessly greedy?

No, surely not.

 

Why is anyone surprised by this? Blizzard has been testing the RMT waters for some time. They have been testing the community to see just what they can get away with in this vein. They want money. And apparently they are getting it.

Take a look at future gaming ideas. Paid DLC/services will become a mundane thing, what makes you think Blizzard should not do it?

Pet Store FAQ
 

Why are you introducing this service?
The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

Will more companions be available for purchase in the future?
We plan to add more pets to the Pet Store in the near future. Keep an eye on the official World of Warcraft website and the online Blizzard Store for details.

Where can I go to purchase these pets?
You can purchase these in-game companions by visiting this link or heading to the online Blizzard Store, where you'll find the Pet Store pets under the Collectibles tab.

Will I be able to acquire these Pet Store pets by questing, through holidays, on in-game vendors, or by any other in-game methods?
No. Pets purchasable through the Pet Store will not be obtainable through quests or other in-game means -- they're only available through the online Blizzard Store.

How do I redeem a Pet Store pet once it's been purchased from the Blizzard Store?
After you purchase the pet, you'll receive a code that can then be redeemed on any World of Warcraft account via Battle.net Account Management. You don't need to redeem the code on the same Battle.net account that made the initial purchase – feel free to send the code to a friend as a gift.

Will these pets count toward pet-related achievements?
These Pet Store pets will count toward the total number of pets a character has for achievements like Plethora of Pets or Lil' Game Hunter.

Will these pets help me in combat?
No, these pets are strictly cosmetic. They have some fun animations and sound effects, but they will not help you in PvP or PvE.

What characters will receive the Pet Store pet that I purchase?
Once you redeem your code on an individual World of Warcraft account, every character on the account will receive the pet in their in-game mailbox (including any characters you create in the future). If you wish to purchase the pet for multiple different World of Warcraft accounts merged with the same Battle.net account, you will need to buy a separate pet for each World of Warcraft account individually.

Things to note this is a "PET STORE" its not an online item shop. Oh and read the last but 1 Q&A.

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Also if Blizzard wants to be so charitable why don't they simply grab a chunk full of their own money and donate it. Why does this have to come from the general public who are already paying to play. They could have announced that 100% of the profits from the pet store goes to the charity. Sounds pretty much like Blizzard is more than happy to donate as long as it isn't their money, oh and they'll take $5.00 of that charity money too.

Exactly how I feel, they earn lots of money from wow and can't give a little sum of it for charity? people have to buy some random pet so blizz will look like it's helping others?

That is pretty selfish and hope at least they say something that the money came from customers not really from their pockets.

Originally posted by coffee

Pet Store FAQ
 

Why are you introducing this service?
The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.  We want to make MO money with YO money!

Will more companions be available for purchase in the future?
We plan to add more pets to the Pet Store in the near future. Keep an eye on the official World of Warcraft website and the online Blizzard Store for details.  You bet your ass we will.  More pets=more money.

Where can I go to purchase these pets?
You can purchase these in-game companions by visiting this link or heading to the online Blizzard Store, where you'll find the Pet Store pets under the Collectibles tab. Have your credit card ready.

Will I be able to acquire these Pet Store pets by questing, through holidays, on in-game vendors, or by any other in-game methods?
No. Pets purchasable through the Pet Store will not be obtainable through quests or other in-game means -- they're only available through the online Blizzard Store.  No way hosay.  Money talks.

How do I redeem a Pet Store pet once it's been purchased from the Blizzard Store?
After you purchase the pet, you'll receive a code that can then be redeemed on any World of Warcraft account via Battle.net Account Management. You don't need to redeem the code on the same Battle.net account that made the initial purchase – feel free to send the code to a friend as a gift.

Will these pets count toward pet-related achievements?
These Pet Store pets will count toward the total number of pets a character has for achievements like Plethora of Pets or Lil' Game Hunter.  Sure, buy as many as you want!

Will these pets help me in combat?
No, these pets are strictly cosmetic. They have some fun animations and sound effects, but they will not help you in PvP or PvE.  Nope, this is strictly about seeing if we can take more of your money.

What characters will receive the Pet Store pet that I purchase?
Once you redeem your code on an individual World of Warcraft account, every character on the account will receive the pet in their in-game mailbox (including any characters you create in the future). If you wish to purchase the pet for multiple different World of Warcraft accounts merged with the same Battle.net account, you will need to buy a separate pet for each World of Warcraft account individually.

Things to note this is a "PET STORE" its not an online item shop. Oh and read the last but 1 Q&A.

Real Answers

Originally posted by Ruyn

 

Real Answers

BTW, it's "Jose".

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Also if Blizzard wants to be so charitable why don't they simply grab a chunk full of their own money and donate it. Why does this have to come from the general public who are already paying to play. They could have announced that 100% of the profits from the pet store goes to the charity. Sounds pretty much like Blizzard is more than happy to donate as long as it isn't their money, oh and they'll take $5.00 of that charity money too.

Exactly how I feel, they earn lots of money from wow and can't give a little sum of it for charity? people have to buy some random pet so blizz will look like it's helping others?

That is pretty selfish and hope at least they say something that the money came from customers not really from their pockets.

Blizzard have been helping "make a wish" for a long time, they even let a 10 year old with terminal brain cancer create an ingame item (i forget which), an NPC and quest that was added to the game.

As to Blizzard not just giving cash, Blizzard are owned by vivendi they hold the purse strings, what money blizzard gets they have to apply for and that goes into developing WoW, running WoW, developing SC2, D3, running Battlenet 1, developing Battlenet 2 and developing the new MMO.

Its vivendi you need to whine to not blizzard.  Blizzard are the developers they dont price the games, the plush toys, they don't sign marketing deals.. thats all vivendi.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/257632

i forcast that such a policey would be implimented in these forums less than two weeks ago .

  This whole discussion is so stupid I actually was forced to log in and write something for the first time. I am shocked at the reaction the pet store has recieved. Mainly becouse it is nothing more than a store used to sell completely optional, usless pets. I really dont understand why people feel that optional items in any game are some sort of attack against their person. If you like to collect pets, get the thing, but if you are not a fan of the vanity items then why do you even care? Are you that jelous that someone has something that you have no way of obtaining aside from buying it? I also find it laughable when people claim that $10 is too expensive for a pet. I am sorry who are you to decide that. If you belive it should be cheaper becouse it is easy to make or something similar then please make one and show us how easy it is. Gamers have a very skewed perspective on money. Some even complain that an indie game is $10 on Steam for example. Something that took many hours to do is not worth $10? Im sorry but thats some really cheap thinking. An example of real life: My friend an artist, musician and student of an Art univeristy recently for doing one piece of art for a clients website recieved $400. For a couple of hours in Photoshop $400 and here people claim that a pet which needs to be designed, created, textured, animated is selling for $10.

Originally posted by Rzep

  This whole discussion is so stupid I actually was forced to log in and write something for the first time. I am shocked at the reaction the pet store has recieved. Mainly becouse it is nothing more than a store used to sell completely optional, usless pets. I really dont understand why people feel that optional items in any game are some sort of attack against their person. If you like to collect pets, get the thing, but if you are not a fan of the vanity items then why do you even care? Are you that jelous that someone has something that you have no way of obtaining aside from buying it? I also find it laughable when people claim that $10 is too expensive for a pet. I am sorry who are you to decide that. If you belive it should be cheaper becouse it is easy to make or something similar then please make one and show us how easy it is. Gamers have a very skewed perspective on money. Some even complain that an indie game is $10 on Steam for example. Something that took many hours to do is not worth $10? Im sorry but thats some really cheap thinking. An example of real life: My friend an artist, musician and student of an Art univeristy recently for doing one piece of art for a clients website recieved $400. For a couple of hours in Photoshop $400 and here people claim that a pet which needs to be designed, created, textured, animated is selling for $10.

Because, as much as they'll deny it, they know Blizzard rules this genre.  And when Blizzard makes something ok for their game, other games are sure to follow.

Originally posted by Rzep

  This whole discussion is so stupid I actually was forced to log in and write something for the first time. I am shocked at the reaction the pet store has recieved. Mainly becouse it is nothing more than a store used to sell completely optional, usless pets. I really dont understand why people feel that optional items in any game are some sort of attack against their person. If you like to collect pets, get the thing, but if you are not a fan of the vanity items then why do you even care? Are you that jelous that someone has something that you have no way of obtaining aside from buying it? I also find it laughable when people claim that $10 is too expensive for a pet. I am sorry who are you to decide that. If you belive it should be cheaper becouse it is easy to make or something similar then please make one and show us how easy it is. Gamers have a very skewed perspective on money. Some even complain that an indie game is $10 on Steam for example. Something that took many hours to do is not worth $10? Im sorry but thats some really cheap thinking. An example of real life: My friend an artist, musician and student of an Art univeristy recently for doing one piece of art for a clients website recieved $400. For a couple of hours in Photoshop $400 and here people claim that a pet which needs to be designed, created, textured, animated is selling for $10.

Ok, listen carefully - everything that they sell in that shop is content that could have gone into the game as a quest reward or achievement unlock. Instead of having access for the $15 sub rate, it will be an added charge.

More and more content will go that way, and eventually game-changing items will be added.

Got it?

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Rzep

  This whole discussion is so stupid I actually was forced to log in and write something for the first time. I am shocked at the reaction the pet store has recieved. Mainly becouse it is nothing more than a store used to sell completely optional, usless pets. I really dont understand why people feel that optional items in any game are some sort of attack against their person. If you like to collect pets, get the thing, but if you are not a fan of the vanity items then why do you even care? Are you that jelous that someone has something that you have no way of obtaining aside from buying it? I also find it laughable when people claim that $10 is too expensive for a pet. I am sorry who are you to decide that. If you belive it should be cheaper becouse it is easy to make or something similar then please make one and show us how easy it is. Gamers have a very skewed perspective on money. Some even complain that an indie game is $10 on Steam for example. Something that took many hours to do is not worth $10? Im sorry but thats some really cheap thinking. An example of real life: My friend an artist, musician and student of an Art univeristy recently for doing one piece of art for a clients website recieved $400. For a couple of hours in Photoshop $400 and here people claim that a pet which needs to be designed, created, textured, animated is selling for $10.

Ok, listen carefully - everything that they sell in that shop is content that could have gone into the game as a quest reward or achievement unlock. Instead of having access for the $15 sub rate, it will be an added charge.

More and more content will go that way, and eventually game-changing items will be added.

Got it?

Once again I will pull up this example. Maple Story has a bigger following then WoW. They have done a cash shop of vanity items sense who knows when. Not once has game changing item's been added to the shop. Please do your research before making bogus statements about what a company will do. They know what they are doing they want to make money. Blizzard is a business. It's what they set out to do!

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Rzep

  This whole discussion is so stupid I actually was forced to log in and write something for the first time. I am shocked at the reaction the pet store has recieved. Mainly becouse it is nothing more than a store used to sell completely optional, usless pets. I really dont understand why people feel that optional items in any game are some sort of attack against their person. If you like to collect pets, get the thing, but if you are not a fan of the vanity items then why do you even care? Are you that jelous that someone has something that you have no way of obtaining aside from buying it? I also find it laughable when people claim that $10 is too expensive for a pet. I am sorry who are you to decide that. If you belive it should be cheaper becouse it is easy to make or something similar then please make one and show us how easy it is. Gamers have a very skewed perspective on money. Some even complain that an indie game is $10 on Steam for example. Something that took many hours to do is not worth $10? Im sorry but thats some really cheap thinking. An example of real life: My friend an artist, musician and student of an Art univeristy recently for doing one piece of art for a clients website recieved $400. For a couple of hours in Photoshop $400 and here people claim that a pet which needs to be designed, created, textured, animated is selling for $10.

Ok, listen carefully - everything that they sell in that shop is content that could have gone into the game as a quest reward or achievement unlock. Instead of having access for the $15 sub rate, it will be an added charge.

More and more content will go that way, and eventually game-changing items will be added.

Got it?

Prove it. Prove to me that what you say about the PET store becoming a full blown item store is actually going to happen. Unless you can prove it, what you and many others say is just you guys making baseless predictions on the future of a game made by  one of the very few developers who listes to fans and has an exemplary track record. Item stores have as many supporters as those who percieve it as a negative thing. Same thing goes for the whole genre of p2p mmos for gods sake. There are a ton of people out there who have never tried an mmo because of the monthly fee. If Blizzard was as greedy as some suggest (dont get me wrong its all about the money cause its a buisness afterall) it would have done everything to get those non-mmors to play the game already, including changing the payment model.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Rzep

  This whole discussion is so stupid I actually was forced to log in and write something for the first time. I am shocked at the reaction the pet store has recieved. Mainly becouse it is nothing more than a store used to sell completely optional, usless pets. I really dont understand why people feel that optional items in any game are some sort of attack against their person. If you like to collect pets, get the thing, but if you are not a fan of the vanity items then why do you even care? Are you that jelous that someone has something that you have no way of obtaining aside from buying it? I also find it laughable when people claim that $10 is too expensive for a pet. I am sorry who are you to decide that. If you belive it should be cheaper becouse it is easy to make or something similar then please make one and show us how easy it is. Gamers have a very skewed perspective on money. Some even complain that an indie game is $10 on Steam for example. Something that took many hours to do is not worth $10? Im sorry but thats some really cheap thinking. An example of real life: My friend an artist, musician and student of an Art univeristy recently for doing one piece of art for a clients website recieved $400. For a couple of hours in Photoshop $400 and here people claim that a pet which needs to be designed, created, textured, animated is selling for $10.

Ok, listen carefully - everything that they sell in that shop is content that could have gone into the game as a quest reward or achievement unlock. Instead of having access for the $15 sub rate, it will be an added charge.

More and more content will go that way, and eventually game-changing items will be added.

Got it?

The first part I get, and I agree. 

The second part, well... To get that, I'd have to reach into your hindquarters, because obviously that's where you've pulled it out of.

Hey, that even plays poetically into "What happens when you assume"!

Originally posted by neikkio

Once again I will pull up this example. Maple Story has a bigger following then WoW. They have done a cash shop of vanity items sense who knows when. Not once has game changing item's been added to the shop. Please do your research before making bogus statements about what a company will do. They know what they are doing they want to make money. Blizzard is a business. It's what they set out to do!

Regardless, if people don't like the idea of things moving closer to buying an advantage, they should voice that opinion loudly. Even then things "could" go in that direction. It's best to speak up now before it's to late, which it "could" already be. It's not like these companies plan this stuff in the course of a few days. Most decisions probably get made months in advance of implementation. They see SOE and others cashing in on item malls, which also cuts down on illegal RMT. IN big business you follow what works and sorry to say, it seems item shops do in fact work. In two ways making the company more money, and cutting down on the amount of crap sold illegally.

Is this a joke? It's not April, right..?

IF i didn't misread it

this is just getting kinda too far,
i mean its a P2P game, and the main reason (from what i know) that people play P2P is because they don't need to pay for anything else.

I mean this is kinda getting too far,

they already have them pay alot ( comparing to the new games with better GFX and new stuff) and yet they want more money...

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by neikkio

Once again I will pull up this example. Maple Story has a bigger following then WoW. They have done a cash shop of vanity items sense who knows when. Not once has game changing item's been added to the shop. Please do your research before making bogus statements about what a company will do. They know what they are doing they want to make money. Blizzard is a business. It's what they set out to do!

Regardless, if people don't like the idea of things moving closer to buying an advantage, they should voice that opinion loudly. Even then things "could" go in that direction. It's best to speak up now before it's to late, which it "could" already be. It's not like these companies plan this stuff in the course of a few days. Most decisions probably get made months in advance of implementation. They see SOE and others cashing in on item malls, which also cuts down on illegal RMT. IN big business you follow what works and sorry to say, it seems item shops do in fact work. In two ways making the company more money, and cutting down on the amount of crap sold illegally.

Exactly. So if Blizzard is putting pets on sale then they did their research, they know the price people will buy it at, and they know how to sell it while keeping their game alive. I see nothing wrong with them doing this and in the future I am sure we will see more vanity items (mounts, clothing *with no stats* aka the Epic Shirt) and such. People need to understand that while blizzard does want to make their "customer" happy they also want to make money.

Originally posted by neikkio

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by neikkio

Once again I will pull up this example. Maple Story has a bigger following then WoW. They have done a cash shop of vanity items sense who knows when. Not once has game changing item's been added to the shop. Please do your research before making bogus statements about what a company will do. They know what they are doing they want to make money. Blizzard is a business. It's what they set out to do!

Regardless, if people don't like the idea of things moving closer to buying an advantage, they should voice that opinion loudly. Even then things "could" go in that direction. It's best to speak up now before it's to late, which it "could" already be. It's not like these companies plan this stuff in the course of a few days. Most decisions probably get made months in advance of implementation. They see SOE and others cashing in on item malls, which also cuts down on illegal RMT. IN big business you follow what works and sorry to say, it seems item shops do in fact work. In two ways making the company more money, and cutting down on the amount of crap sold illegally.

Exactly. So if Blizzard is putting pets on sale then they did their research, they know the price people will buy it at, and they know how to sell it while keeping their game alive. I see nothing wrong with them doing this and in the future I am sure we will see more vanity items (mounts, clothing *with no stats* aka the Epic Shirt) and such. People need to understand that while blizzard does want to make their "customer" happy they also want to make money.

you are right about them trying to keep the game alive, and 10 isn't too much for a pet, but if they would charge money for an item, then I don't really get the point of P2P

Despicable!

That is one cheap, greedy move made by Blizzard. As if they are not making enough money from paid services, subscriptions, and even box sales. Now they have to throw in a F2P item shop model. Not only is this not needed, but it's a big middle finger to the subscribers.

I understand this is for a good cause and they have benefited the Make-a-Wish foundation in the past (Take Ezra Chatterton for example) But, it does not mean they can use this as a distraction for their market. If they really wanted to help make proceeds. they could easily take like 3% of their sub numbers and donate that and put these pets in-game.

"Check out these cool new pets that you will absolutely love. Now watch as we steal your money right before your eyes!"

I'm really hoping for this game to crash and burn into the PoS it really is. One day.......

Which people honestly did not see this coming? They've been doing it indirectly with the TCG for a long time now. They've dropped plenty of hints in interviews and so on about things like being concidered. We have the whole range of services. We have all sorts of merchandize. This is just another little tool for them to milk the cow... which the've been milking like mad for years. It's just another drop in the bucket. Might be the last drop for those bitter haters hanging around here, but for the vast majority of WoW players it'll be nothing.

Anyway...

OMG

Pandaren

It's

FURRY!

It's cute and it kicks arse.

*runs off to type in his Credit Card information*

I mean, come on... I can order a pizza for that here. That would last me 30 minutes.

Originally posted by gorillaz951

Despicable!

That is one cheap, greedy move made by Blizzard. As if they are not making enough money from paid services, subscriptions, and even box sales. Now they have to throw in a F2P item shop model. Not only is this not needed, but it's a big middle finger to the subscribers.

I understand this is for a good cause and they have benefited the Make-a-Wish foundation in the past (Take Ezra Chatterton for example) But, it does not mean they can use this as a distraction for their market. If they really wanted to help make proceeds. they could easily take like 3% of their sub numbers and donate that and put these pets in-game.

"Check out these cool new pets that you will absolutely love. Now watch as we steal your money right before your eyes!"

I'm really hoping for this game to crash and burn into the PoS it really is. One day.......

I am not sure if they can take the 3% lose, since i don't know waht their up keep is
but you are kinda right.

if they really wants to benefit something, they don't need to ask for funding. IF they cant they just won't.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by neikkio

Once again I will pull up this example. Maple Story has a bigger following then WoW. They have done a cash shop of vanity items sense who knows when. Not once has game changing item's been added to the shop. Please do your research before making bogus statements about what a company will do. They know what they are doing they want to make money. Blizzard is a business. It's what they set out to do!

Regardless, if people don't like the idea of things moving closer to buying an advantage, they should voice that opinion loudly. Even then things "could" go in that direction. It's best to speak up now before it's to late, which it "could" already be. It's not like these companies plan this stuff in the course of a few days. Most decisions probably get made months in advance of implementation. They see SOE and others cashing in on item malls, which also cuts down on illegal RMT. IN big business you follow what works and sorry to say, it seems item shops do in fact work. In two ways making the company more money, and cutting down on the amount of crap sold illegally.

You are exactly correct. There was probably a LOT of study and marketing research that has gone into this move and Blizzard is well aware of the consequences.

As much as people want to whine and complain (90% of them not playing WOW and hate Blizzard already I might add), RMT items work and work well. When some games are ranked highly and have thousands upon thousands of players and use RMT, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it will catch on. It is the wave of the future and if you don't like it, get out of the genre.

However, due to recent RMT failures, I think Blizzard is well aware of going too far. I personally believe that they know that game changing items or items that can be gotten in game is too far. A few vanity pets are nothing. I personally don't care. Even if was some cool mount I wouldn't care (as long as an equivalent mount was obtainable in game).

You can also guarantee that Blizzard will monitor this and if sub numbers go down drastically, they will leave it alone and not do anymore with it. If sub numbers remain the same or increase, then they will increase the things offered.

RMT is here to stay and you can either accept it or move on. People advocating the slippery slope argument really have no proof of what might happen and it is all speculation. In the end, the items will remain like these vanity pets or Blizzard will add more and different items to the store. I am not going to worry about speculating if and when that might happen. I know that I would cancel my sub if they offer game changing items to the store but for now its a pet store. its nothing more and nothing less. It is Blizzard making a decision to further market their game and to do what is best to keep the game on top. And the question now is to see if this is the right decision and only time will tell.

Originally posted by erickdefores

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

 

Yes 50% is remarkable to be honest. To be honest, anything over 25% is good and usually its around 10%. I know huge charities in the US that spend 90 cents on the dollar for administrative costs. Before people complain that 50% is "insulting" , maybe you should research how charities really work.

<Mod Edit>

You said "event". Yes you can have "events" that donate 100% of the proceeds but very few charities give 100% of ALL of its proceeds (year round) to any group. There are always administrative costs and overhead costs that take away from the total. Have you ever wondered why certain large charities CEO's and such make 6 and 7 figures a year?

I donate regularly to an international non-profit that gives 90% to its mission and that is almost unheard of for an international not-for-profit. I always recommend that people look at the financials for any charity before you donate, it is really an eye-opener.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Rzep

  This whole discussion is so stupid I actually was forced to log in and write something for the first time. I am shocked at the reaction the pet store has recieved. Mainly becouse it is nothing more than a store used to sell completely optional, usless pets. I really dont understand why people feel that optional items in any game are some sort of attack against their person. If you like to collect pets, get the thing, but if you are not a fan of the vanity items then why do you even care? Are you that jelous that someone has something that you have no way of obtaining aside from buying it? I also find it laughable when people claim that $10 is too expensive for a pet. I am sorry who are you to decide that. If you belive it should be cheaper becouse it is easy to make or something similar then please make one and show us how easy it is. Gamers have a very skewed perspective on money. Some even complain that an indie game is $10 on Steam for example. Something that took many hours to do is not worth $10? Im sorry but thats some really cheap thinking. An example of real life: My friend an artist, musician and student of an Art univeristy recently for doing one piece of art for a clients website recieved $400. For a couple of hours in Photoshop $400 and here people claim that a pet which needs to be designed, created, textured, animated is selling for $10.

Ok, listen carefully - everything that they sell in that shop is content that could have gone into the game as a quest reward or achievement unlock. Instead of having access for the $15 sub rate, it will be an added charge.

More and more content will go that way, and eventually game-changing items will be added.

Got it?

This will all end in tears.  Soon you will be having to purchase your new characters piece by piece. "Oh drat! I messed up and bought three arms by mistake. Can I exchange one for the mighty Ork action batch please?"

Kind of reminds me of this old MST3K skit.

OMG OMG OMG ITS ARMAGEDDON!!!    sigh ... or not.

Two poxy little items in a cash shop is not the end of the world as we know it. In fact Blizzard bilking more money out of the their customers for worthless shiny toys is pretty much business as usuall.

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by erickdefores

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by neikkio

 

1. No one is telling you to buy it.
2. You can quit the game anytime or not even play.
3. Blizzard is a business they were made to make money.
4. If people will buy it for $10 then they will sell it for $10. Simple Supply Demand principle.
5. No Charity alive sends 100% of proceeds to their cause, to be honest 50% is amazing.
6. If anyone has any other problem's do post them debunking your high school drop up smarts and economic know how will keep me entertained while sitting here in class.

 

 

Yes 50% is remarkable to be honest. To be honest, anything over 25% is good and usually its around 10%. I know huge charities in the US that spend 90 cents on the dollar for administrative costs. Before people complain that 50% is "insulting" , maybe you should research how charities really work.

<Mod Edit>

You said "event". Yes you can have "events" that donate 100% of the proceeds but very few charities give 100% of ALL of its proceeds (year round) to any group. There are always administrative costs and overhead costs that take away from the total. Have you ever wondered why certain large charities CEO's and such make 6 and 7 figures a year?

I donate regularly to an international non-profit that gives 90% to its mission and that is almost unheard of for an international not-for-profit. I always recommend that people look at the financials for any charity before you donate, it is really an eye-opener.

You are correct, of course.  Which is why I mentioned doing some homework first.  Defending Blizzards 50% of the proceeds buy saying it is "normal" or "standard"  ranks as one of the top 20 most uninformed statements I have read in these forums. 
 

I don't really like the idea of this, it just seems like a way to ease in micro-trasactions to the game and the charity just sounds like an easy way to make it seem 'ok'

I do currently play WoW and I really like the game, however I really don't like the idea of this and I won't be buying from it. I will continue to play the game though, I won't quit unless they drop something on us like buying gear or anything more than this. Which it seems they will probably be doing in the future.

This does affect people that enjoy achievements as this adds to the pet count achievement... so someone that is paying money will be allowed more achievements than those just paying their monthly fee. I know achievements don't effect the way your character plays (stat-wise) but I have a really bad feeling that this is just leading to it slowly. Some people playing this game live for the achievement system, seems like a slap in the face to me.

Oh my god...its official  Blizzard is Pimping your qarcraft zombies.   $10 for an "ingame pet".           Oh man  I cant say Ive seen a fail more epic.

Originally posted by guy232

Oh my god...its official  Blizzard is Pimping your qarcraft zombies.   $10 for an "ingame pet".           Oh man  I cant say Ive seen a fail more epic.

True that

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Stunning. It's like a surreal farce.

 

Like Bill Gates selling his autograph on a street corner.

 

Blizzard's rep is going to take a beating for the sheer unrepentant greed they are exhibiting these days.

No one is being forced to purchase any of whats available... Those are *clearly* listed as VANITY pets. In other words, they serve no purpose in combat what so ever.  Its hardly "greed" to offer such options to those who want it.  Not to mention, I've yet to see anyone provide a non subjective definition of the word "greed". In all too many cases, it translates to "They have more than I do" or "they have more than I believe they should"...

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

Actually we're entitled to bitch about it now.

I DO wonder why you are here defending it, though.

Just how are you "entitled"?? Are you being forced to purchase those pets or any of the other *optional* services?  I don't know about the other fellow, but I'm defending it because I believe in freedom within markets. 

Originally posted by Tyrantas

 Blizz has no shame, they sold it lol.

Chances that i am back to wow when cataclysm is out just reduced even more.

Well, thats up to you of course. WoW is a good game up to level cap. I have two 80's. I plan to run my 71 and my 70 up to 80 before the expansion is out. To each their own...<shrug>

Originally posted by Slashed316

I miss the blizzard who cared about the games they made not lining there pocketbooks. If you make a good product the money will follow.

Would that it was all that simple... These days it takes tens of millions to make AAA titles. Even lower level games take millions and millions.  Your above doesn't fly very well with investors and shareholders.  A "good product" is equal parts good design, implimentation, marketing and branding.  I'm VERY happy that *one* of Blizzards main focus points is money. That means they will have more than sufficient in house funding to make their next game... And the one after that.

look at all the crying over something that doesn't matter.

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

 

Are you that naive to think their main goal is charity?

Wake up dude, if that was the case they would donate 100% not 50%.... its a stupid minipet why do they need 5 dollars for it?

Its shamefull yes, it shows no character yes, will they expand it with more stuff, definately

Are you that ignorant that you think that *any* corporations main goal isn't profit? Giving to charity is a nice touch, no matter what the motivation for it was. It still helps the charity.  Of course *one* of Blizzards main focus points is profit. That IS the nature of the game called business after all.

April fools?

Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

Yup....this ^^^^^^^.

Besides....I'M happy. :)  I just bought an ADORABLE pandaran critter, and had the delight of knowing that 5 dollars of the money goes to the Make-a-Wish Foundation, which...just happens to be one of my favorite charities ANYWAY.  w00t!!!

People just love to have things to complain about.

I'm not even playing WoW atm, and yet....I had to buy that pet...lol!  Soooo....whatever.  I don't honestly care what anyone thinks about WoW. They're making a fortune...good for them.  I get to enjoy their game when I'm in the mood to play it, and if they come up with something cool (like a pet) to buy, that I find entertaining....more power to them and more fun to me.  They got me to log back in to get my pet. Being I hadn't logged in for several weeks now....I'd say that was a successful ploy on their part. :D

Think I might just run around Dalaran, throw some stuff up on the AH and throw back some brewskis at the local in game "pub" while I'm there...lol.

There are a TON of things I'd like to see them implement in WoW.  There's an entire thread somewhere on that.  I don't want to play every day any more, but FFS....it's JUST A GAME.  A child will die of cancer somewhere tonight....someone will lose their home....other atrocities will happen all over the world....And we're all sitting in our nice safe homes tonight...on the nice internet, with nice electricity....probably enjoying a nice little snack, some coffee....bitchin' about Blizzard making money off of their....business. *sigh*

We're all so UTTERLY spoiled.  Games....I mean really.  It just really really ISN'T all that important in the grand scheme of things, IS IT?

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Nice homework - a copy & paste from the WoW home site. BFD

If it's about charity - why isn't it BOTH pets, 100%, and not for a limited time?

WoW has made them BILLIONS.

So? Its a world wide popular game. No one is forcing anyone to play WoW.  Millions and millions of people pay Blizzard each and every month to play WoW. They have been doing that for 5 years now.  The fact that they CHOSE to donate to a charity means that the charity benefits from money they wouldn't have had other wise. It wouldn't matter if they had made TRILLIONS(like our Dear Leaders extort from the productive here in the US...). Its their money to do with as they see fit.

whatever...

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

 

Yup....this ^^^^^^^.

 

Besides....I'M happy. :)  I just bought an ADORABLE pandaran critter, and had the delight of knowing that 5 dollars of the money goes to the Make-a-Wish Foundation, which...just happens to be one of my favorite charities ANYWAY.  w00t!!!

 

People just love to have things to complain about.

 

I'm not even playing WoW atm, and yet....I had to buy that pet...lol!  Soooo....whatever.  I don't honestly care what anyone thinks about WoW. They're making a fortune...good for them.  I get to enjoy their game when I'm in the mood to play it, and if they come up with something cool (like a pet) to buy, that I find entertaining....more power to them and more fun to me.  They got me to log back in to get my pet. Being I hadn't logged in for several weeks now....I'd say that was a successful ploy on their part. :D

 

Think I might just run around Dalaran, throw some stuff up on the AH and throw back some brewskis at the local in game "pub" while I'm there...lol.

 

There are a TON of things I'd like to see them implement in WoW.  There's an entire thread somewhere on that.  I don't want to play every day any more, but FFS....it's JUST A GAME.  A child will die of cancer somewhere tonight....someone will lose their home....other atrocities will happen all over the world....And we're all sitting in our nice safe homes tonight...on the nice internet, with nice electricity....probably enjoying a nice little snack, some coffee....bitchin' about Blizzard making money off of their....business. *sigh*

 

We're all so UTTERLY spoiled.  Games....I mean really.  It just really really ISN'T all that important in the grand scheme of things, IS IT?

 

Well like you said, its a business, and just because its a game doesnt meant hey dont have to care about their consumers.  Like every other business they need to stick to their promises. 

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

look at all the crying over something that doesn't matter.

As you can tell from my previous post I agree with you .

Originally posted by coffee

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

Done, and done. Bye bye 80 holy paladin, hunter, rogue, death knight, and so on. Hello again, FFXI!

I'm curious to see how this progresses.

Originally posted by marinrider

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by wh0astar

Uh.. how is it a big deal if they have an in-store? It's not a enormous fucking item mall like most asian grinders do.

They do business, make business, profit money.. and that's how the business industry works. If you want to top WoW, then make your own fuckin mmo and be richer then you're entitled to bitch about it here. /eye roll.

 

Yup....this ^^^^^^^.

 

......*snipped huge segment where I ramble*......

 

There are a TON of things I'd like to see them implement in WoW.  There's an entire thread somewhere on that.  I don't want to play every day any more, but FFS....it's JUST A GAME.  A child will die of cancer somewhere tonight....someone will lose their home....other atrocities will happen all over the world....And we're all sitting in our nice safe homes tonight...on the nice internet, with nice electricity....probably enjoying a nice little snack, some coffee....bitchin' about Blizzard making money off of their....business. *sigh*

 

We're all so UTTERLY spoiled.  Games....I mean really.  It just really really ISN'T all that important in the grand scheme of things, IS IT?

 

 

Well like you said, its a business, and just because its a game doesnt meant hey dont have to care about their consumers.  Like every other business they need to stick to their promises. 

And what is it, exactly, that they "promised" us that wasn't covered in the EULA and ToS as their rights to do as they wish with their intellectual property?  You know....that LONG legal form we READ and SIGNED when we very first started playing WoW 5 years ago....yeah....THAT thing.

So...what did they promise us?

They provide us with entertainment for 15 bucks a month and the price of whichever expansions we choose to buy. They keep the servers running pretty smoothly...they fix bugs...keeping the product functional.  I'm not sure what else it is you think they "promised" us?  O.o

They've tried to listen to the MAJORITY of their consumers and update the game accordingly to the MAJORITY'S wishes.  Just because we don't all fall INTO that majority....well...welcome to Life 101. That's just how things go.  And if we don't like a product....we don't buy it anymore.  Ya know?

Originally posted by Cavall

Originally posted by coffee

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

 

Done, and done. Bye bye 80 holy paladin, hunter, rogue, death knight, and so on. Hello again, FFXI!

By all means, have fun and absolutely exercise your right to NOT pay for something you don't like. :)

Perhaps if everyone would just do that, if they feel so strongly about something, a change would eventually occur.  However, we all must realize that a business....business, yes....will likely go with the majority of their customer bases' wishes.  So don't be surprised if nothing changes.  That only means you're not in the majority in your way of thinking for THAT PARTICULAR games' player base.  Just means there's another game that would probably "fit" you better anyway.

You know....games come and go.  They just DO.  No game is likely to be "THE" game for your LIFE.  I mean really.  We all change. The things we like....and have time for....also change.  LIFE changes.  Why do we expect that games will not also change?

I applaud your decision to take a personal stand.  Everyone should do what they feel is best for them personally.  Life is, afterall, just a series of decisions both large and....small.

/end philosophical dissertation

Everyone is bitching but looking past the fact that 50% of the money will go to the make a wish foundation. If thats true, than I dont mind it. I would like to see one of the other shop games do that.

I've only read a bit of this thread, but those freaking out just need to grow up. So what if they add the ability to buy in game pets? Some of the money goes to charity and even if it didn't who cares?  You don't have to purchase anything. It's not like PerfectWorld or some other stupid korean grindfest where you have to buy stuff from there cash shops just to play the game at those levels. This is all for fun.  Either buy it or don't .  I honestly like my pet and I'm glad some of the cash goes to the charity.

Originally posted by AKABoondock

Everyone is bitching but looking past the fact that 50% of the money will go to the make a wish foundation. If thats true, than I dont mind it. I would like to see one of the other shop games do that.

And so far as I know....NONE of them DO.

But instead of saying, "Oh cool....5 bucks to charity!"  you will see in previous posts people complaining that "it's ONLY 5 bucks, not 100 percent," and "why not BOTH pets?"   *sigh*

Like I said....people will look for ANY reason to bitch, and as usual, with WoW....they will only look and POINT OUT the things they don't like and NEVER ever ever give any credit for anything that is good.  That's just the nature of this beast called MMORPG.com.

If it's Blizzard....then, by all means, it MUST be BAAAAAAD.  lmao

Originally posted by girlgeek

Like I said....people will look for ANY reason to bitch, and as usual, with WoW....they will only look and POINT OUT the things they don't like and NEVER ever ever give any credit for anything that is good.  That's just the nature of this beast called MMORPG.com.

Oh god no. That would be.....mainstream! Eww!

I hate to say it but that 5 dollars to charity probably isn't all good hearted either. Blizzard is a business and they need money to grow and make better games. Donating to charity cuts the amount of money they can be taxed on. I play WoW and I really don't care too much about it. I kinda wish there was a way in the game to get it but oh well.

Originally posted by pojung

Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

 

Because:

1. It's a function of the game that isn't needed. The move is purely for financial gain. They don't need financial gain. Vanity pets are elsewhere acquirable (TCG, collector's edition, etc), but now move to a paying system.

2. If they were doing a true fundraiser, because they don't need the money, they would move all profits to the charity in question.

1+2= 3. They are using a charity to make money, if viewed from the charity angle. That's insulting. No matter how you dic

After reading this far, I've agreed with this post most of all. They don't need the money, so to do it right, while throwing the charity card they should be donating 100%--100% to the charity and from both pets. It is ridiculous. Why not scaling down  the subscription fees and the sales tax, haven't played another online game yet that has charged sales tax. I was done playing WoW after that first month when I realized that.

People, this is a purely optional vanity item, just like all the TCG loot that they have made available before. What's more some of the proceeds from this are going to the Make a Wish foundation, when Blizzard could have gone completely corporate and kept all the profits from THEIR in game pet... This doesn't affect gameplay in any way whatsoever, and it's not like they are selling instance content with loot cards like EQ.

Sometimes I think people just like having something to complain about.

Originally posted by Cavall

Originally posted by coffee

For the people in this thread who are disgusted with this move and PLAY WOW ( doubt any of you do) please cancel your sub giving this as a reason, if enough of you do it then blizzard will re-think it, people power.

Do as above and get on with your life.

 

Done, and done. Bye bye 80 holy paladin, hunter, rogue, death knight, and so on. Hello again, FFXI!

My condolences... But then FFXI is its own punishment...

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

This, and this again, you flipping fools.

At least it will make it easier to spot the biggest losers and nerds. When you see one of these pets and grunty you know who to make fun of and laugh at.

 What do you expect? ALot of people in this country thinks it's ok for the government to confiscate your hard earned dough....but offer a virtual pet for ten bucks? String them evil corporations up!

Originally posted by Redmow

 What do you expect? ALot of people in this country thinks it's ok for the government to confiscate your hard earned dough....but offer a virtual pet for ten bucks? String them evil corporations up!

You cant stop paying the government as easily as you can stop paying a corporation.  And the government isnt here to sell us something, the corporation is.

The US government did all its selling in the 1700's, its got it down now.

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

Originally posted by sijmister

People, this is a purely optional vanity item, just like all the TCG loot that they have made available before. What's more some of the proceeds from this are going to the Make a Wish foundation, when Blizzard could have gone completely corporate and kept all the profits from THEIR in game pet... This doesn't affect gameplay in any way whatsoever, and it's not like they are selling instance content with loot cards like EQ.

Sometimes I think people just like having something to complain about.

Although I do agree it's optional to buy these, it is the start of a cash shop flow. Soon they will be releasing items that could easily be implemented in-game such as these pets, but instead will be going for an extra detriment in your wallet.
 

The Make-a-wish foundation is a good charity. But in all honesty, Blizzard is partially doing it for publicity. It sways the consumer's opinion more to say "Well part of this is going to charity. Might as well purchase it and help out." I'm not trying to be offensive, but it's just a gritty way to raise money for a cause in my opinion.

Originally posted by Bolshevikftw

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

 

 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

 

 

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

This is where most people say "fanboy"

but I'll be open minded to your point, and say "dumbass who will not accept criticism against his pixel life" since you do make a good point about WoW being an important enough thing in your life so that you would look like a dumb douche in its defense.

I like the fact that some of it goes to the make a wish foundation...so its not so bad

Originally posted by Bolshevikftw

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

 

 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

 

 

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

Sadly, your sarcasm will be lost on most of the disgruntled ex-WoW players in this thread.  Pity too.  You're damn funny! :)

Truth....some people just don't know what to do with it.  I think most of us who have no problem with the pets....have already stated we KNOW they're doing it to make money.  None of us have feigned SHOCK that a business would....zomg noooes...MAKE MONEY!!!  O.O  It's the rest of the posters that find it wrong to make money continually....but I bet a LOT of them are planning on getting Windows 7....

It's only okay for SOME corporations to make money.  Others, well....mostly just Blizzard....shouldn't want to DO that naughty thing.

Funny too, being if any ONE single person in this thread that is WHINING actually OWNED Blizzard....they wouldn't think making more money would be such a bad thing at all.  Of course....they will all SAY they wouldn't care about such things as money....because none of them will likely ever be in the position TO care about their billions of dollars, now will they?  LMAO  If any of them were billionaires and you told them, "You don't need any more money!  Give your work away for free from now on!"  They would laugh uncontrollably.  But since it's not THEIR money....well now....that's a different story.

By the way....your new name for MMORPG.com is spot on.

Originally posted by chrisrogers

Originally posted by pojung

Originally posted by wh0astar

Wow, you guys are really evil. I don't see how it's insulting to add charity to it. Good for them. It's not their fault they're successful. It's us people that made 'em successful, ever thought about that, hmm? I guess not. You guys are naive to realize the mere fact that it is just another game that people play, that you used to play... so get over it.

 

Because:

1. It's a function of the game that isn't needed. The move is purely for financial gain. They don't need financial gain. Vanity pets are elsewhere acquirable (TCG, collector's edition, etc), but now move to a paying system.

2. If they were doing a true fundraiser, because they don't need the money, they would move all profits to the charity in question.

1+2= 3. They are using a charity to make money, if viewed from the charity angle. That's insulting. No matter how you dic

After reading this far, I've agreed with this post most of all. They don't need the money, so to do it right, while throwing the charity card they should be donating 100%--100% to the charity and from both pets. It is ridiculous. Why not scaling down  the subscription fees and the sales tax, haven't played another online game yet that has charged sales tax. I was done playing WoW after that first month when I realized that.

What sales tax?  I don't pay sales tax on WoW.  What state do you live in????  Or is this a tax from somewhere other than the U.S.?

Oh....also.....I think you've made enough money from YOUR job too, so....you should start working for free.  I mean really....your needs are met, right?   Seriously....stupid statement.  Where do you draw the line?  At what point does a business have "enough money now?"  Should attorneys and doctors that have made "enough money now" start working for free?   Should some actors that are billionaires now also start working for free?  What about pro football players?  I think some of them have enough money now.  They  should certainly play for free.  Oh...and how about Bill Gates?  Should his products all be free now?   I'd be up for a free upgrade to Windows 7.....

/rolls eyes

i really can't stand how stupid people that troll these forums are now i know what metalhead feels like and why he makes all those posts.

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Bolshevikftw

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

 

 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

 

 

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

 

Sadly, your sarcasm will be lost on most of the disgruntled ex-WoW players in this thread.  Pity too.  You're damn funny! :)

 

Truth....some people just don't know what to do with it.  I think most of us who have no problem with the pets....have already stated we KNOW they're doing it to make money.  None of us have feigned SHOCK that a business would....zomg noooes...MAKE MONEY!!!  O.O  It's the rest of the posters that find it wrong to make money continually....but I bet a LOT of them are planning on getting Windows 7....

 

It's only okay for SOME corporations to make money.  Others, well....mostly just Blizzard....shouldn't want to DO that naughty thing.

 

Funny too, being if any ONE single person in this thread that is WHINING actually OWNED Blizzard....they wouldn't think making more money would be such a bad thing at all.  Of course....they will all SAY they wouldn't care about such things as money....because none of them will likely ever be in the position TO care about their billions of dollars, now will they?  LMAO  If any of them were billionaires and you told them, "You don't need any more money!  Give your work away for free from now on!"  They would laugh uncontrollably.  But since it's not THEIR money....well now....that's a different story.

 

By the way....your new name for MMORPG.com is spot on.

His sarcasm and your sarcasm put together is nowhere as funny as a my pretty accurate depiction of what you would look like in real life.

My point is, trying to make him sound funny make you sound dumb.

I'll start laughing when you reply to this post. I'll see what kind of lame shit you try to make out to be funny. You're obviously trying to defend Blizzard with illogical desperate reasoning.

Do you think a company with million subscribers each of whom giving them 15 dollars a month needs more money than they are already making?

You know, it's rather funny.  If NCsoft, Cryptic, Mythic, Adventurine, Turbine, and especially SOE, or any of these other little companies did this, people wouldn't bat an eyelash, because quite frankly, it's expected, eventually.  But because it's Blizzard, people are going *berserk*.  Way to subconsciously say that you expect more from Blizzard, all these kids and disgruntled 'hard-core' MMO gamers that spew bile at WoW -constantly-...

...and what's even more laughable, there is no way to counter it, because the only reason all these non-WoW players would even give two shits about this, is because subconsciously they *know* that Blizzard rules this genre, and now that Blizzard did it, all these other little crappy companies with their garbage games will trot right along behind, copying and doing the same damn thing, because Blizzard just made it acceptable. 

So keep bitching guys...it's hilarious.

I wish i could live making virtual pets in a game for real cash....  anyhow, no suprise here, it was just a question of time.  As long as the item shop keep selling comestic things, i dont see a problem, more power to them i guess.

Originally posted by Eben

You know, it's rather funny.  If NCsoft, Cryptic, Mythic, Adventurine Turbine, and especially SOE, or any of these other little companies did this, people wouldn't bat an eyelash, because quite frankly, it's expected, eventually.  But because it's Blizzard, people are going *berserk*.  Way to subconsciously say that you expect more from Blizzard, all these kids and disgruntled 'hard-core' MMO gamers that spew bile at WoW -constantly-...

...and what's even more laughable, there is no way to counter it, because the only reason all these non-WoW players would even give two shits about this, is because subconsciously they *know* that Blizzard rules this genre, and now that Blizzard did it, all these other little crappy companies with their garbage games will trot right along behind, copying and doing the same damn thing, because Blizzard just made it acceptable. 

So keep bitching guys...it's hilarious.

I kind of agree with this, most of the frustration came from the fact that Blizzard had been player-friendly for as long as they existed.

But still, a company with that big of a player-base shouldn't really end up having RMT, especially after earlier commitment and statements against it.

as  i said before i am all for it it goes to a good cause am i the only one that thinks this?  so what if they make money we all do at some point... just not like they do.. who really  cares...

Doesnt surprise me WOW has turned its back on its "loyal" money paying subscribers. This game has turned into a glorified Asian cash shop ... doesnt surprise me at all. Whats next in the chash shop i wonder? its a snowball effect that will keep rolling until you wont be able to play the game without cash shop items. It will happen mark my words, blizzard isnt a company that cares about its customers, its all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Thankfully ill support a non cash game like AION, NCsoft actually cares and it shows in the product they deliver.

Originally posted by Simiel

I kind of agree with this, most of the frustration came from the fact that Blizzard had been player-friendly for as long as they existed.

But still, a company with that big of a player-base shouldn't really end up having RMT, especially after earlier commitment and statements against it.

See, that's the problem.  People post all this stuff from the past, quoting Blizzard saying 'We won't do this or that', and all the stuff they supposedly go back on their word on, is stuff that their customers were bitching for years to get.  It's like, its expected by some people that MMO companies treat their customers like garbage, and Blizzard comes along, gives them what they ask for, and Blizzard is the evil company out to make a quick buck.  Are people in this genre just so bitter than when a company comes along and does what their players want the majority of the time...that's a *bad* thing?  Can you imagine the monumental effort it must require to keep millions of people satisfied with a product enough that they are willing to pay $15 a month for years at a time?  This genre has companies that sit and flat out LIE on their websites and on their product boxes...

..and people wanna bitch because Blizzard are selling vanity teddy bears and giving part of the money to charity?

Really?

I'll be the first to swear off Blizzard forever, the first time I see even one piece of game-relevant gear for sale using RMT in one of their games.  But 12 pages of people bitching about a what-if scenario.  Just sad.

Originally posted by supbro

Doesnt surprise me WOW has turned its back on its "loyal" money paying subscribers. This game has turned into a glorified Asian cash shop ... doesnt surprise me at all. Whats next in the chash shop i wonder? its a snowball effect that will keep rolling until you wont be able to play the game without cash shop items. It will happen mark my words, blizzard isnt a company that cares about its customers, its all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Thankfully ill support a non cash game like AION, NCsoft actually cares and it shows in the product they deliver.

 

Yeah, they care so much they run their own bots to sell you kinah.  Those swell guys.  Btw, how's Auto Assault, Dungeon Runners and Tabula Rasa doing these days? 

If you don't think it's a matter of time before you can buy new super-duper neato wings for your little ballerina, you're deluding yourself. 

it is sad... so what if they make money at least part of it is for a good cause people seem to forget that..and want to talk bad abot a company for doing that..

Originally posted by toria

it is sad... so what if they make money at least part of it is for a good cause people seem to forget that..and want to talk bad abot a company for doing that..

The charity thing is a great cover to milk people for as much money as they can. You blizzard fanboys are so diluded that you cant see through them blinders.

WoW the king of the Asian Cash Shop, rather fitting isnt it? ;))))

Originally posted by Simiel

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Bolshevikftw

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

 

 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

 

 

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

 

Sadly, your sarcasm will be lost on most of the disgruntled ex-WoW players in this thread.  Pity too.  You're damn funny! :)

 

Truth....some people just don't know what to do with it.  I think most of us who have no problem with the pets....have already stated we KNOW they're doing it to make money.  None of us have feigned SHOCK that a business would....zomg noooes...MAKE MONEY!!!  O.O  It's the rest of the posters that find it wrong to make money continually....but I bet a LOT of them are planning on getting Windows 7....

 

It's only okay for SOME corporations to make money.  Others, well....mostly just Blizzard....shouldn't want to DO that naughty thing.

 

Funny too, being if any ONE single person in this thread that is WHINING actually OWNED Blizzard....they wouldn't think making more money would be such a bad thing at all.  Of course....they will all SAY they wouldn't care about such things as money....because none of them will likely ever be in the position TO care about their billions of dollars, now will they?  LMAO  If any of them were billionaires and you told them, "You don't need any more money!  Give your work away for free from now on!"  They would laugh uncontrollably.  But since it's not THEIR money....well now....that's a different story.

 

By the way....your new name for MMORPG.com is spot on.

 

His sarcasm and your sarcasm put together is nowhere as funny as a my pretty accurate depiction of what you would look like in real life.

My point is, trying to make him sound funny make you sound dumb.

I'll start laughing when you reply to this post. I'll see what kind of lame shit you try to make out to be funny. You're obviously trying to defend Blizzard with illogical desperate reasoning.

Do you think a company with million subscribers each of whom giving them 15 dollars a month needs more money than they are already making?

Who is illogical and desperate here:

The person that is foolish enough to think that a BUSINESS ever quits caring about making money, or the person that recognizes a BUSINESS as just that....a business?

Frankly, I don't think I'm the one "looking dumb" here.....

If YOU owned Blizzard....I'm sure you would just stop making more money once you hit the what....50 billion dollar mark?  Or...how about a trillion?   Just when is the "cut off point" for when businesses should no longer be allowed to make any more money?  Let's go for a socialist state and set some sort of LIMIT on how much money YOU....yes you....can make at your job.  I think that's a brilliant idea.  Or do limits on the amount of money you can make only apply to corporations?  Do you need to be reminded about a little company called Microsoft?  Now....don't you go and buy Windows 7 because, well....you know, Microsoft ALREADY HAS ENOUGH MONEY.

Seriously.  Saying a company "doesn't need any more money," is just ignorant.  If your bills are paid and you have food and shelter....I don't think YOU need any more money either.  But maybe you'd still like to make money for your efforts.  Well...I don't know if you should be able to do that.   Someone should be allowed to determine when YOU have "made enough money."  I nominate ME. 

Yup, you've made enough money.  Now, from now on....you can just forward me your paychecks from your work and effort, because....you've made enough money.  I mean....how ridiculous that entire argument is...lol.

The sheer ignorance of some of the people here is astonishing. So big, bad Blizzard is finally offering in-game pets at their online store....so now on top of the other useless trinkets you could wear/carry, now you have the option of a couple of new useless items to drag around in game, woe is me.

Will this lead to a full blown Cash Shop for WoW? I dunno, my crystal ball's batteries are currently recharging so I'll get back with you. But hell ask a few of these wannabe Miss Cleos that seem to have popped up in this forum. I'm sure they would LOVE to spread the word about what they can predict.

In the mean time I'll deal with the here and now, so Blizzard gets a few youngens, moms and less charitable peeps to donate 5 bucks. I see only good in that part. Besides I wonder just how many of them would have thought to do that without Blizzard's little carrot on a stick to lead them to a one time shot at philanthropy. Hell I wonder how many of you have even done it this year.....

LOL!

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by supbro

Doesnt surprise me WOW has turned its back on its "loyal" money paying subscribers. This game has turned into a glorified Asian cash shop ... doesnt surprise me at all. Whats next in the chash shop i wonder? its a snowball effect that will keep rolling until you wont be able to play the game without cash shop items. It will happen mark my words, blizzard isnt a company that cares about its customers, its all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Thankfully ill support a non cash game like AION, NCsoft actually cares and it shows in the product they deliver.

 

 

Yeah, they care so much they run their own bots to sell you kinah.  Those swell guys.  Btw, how's Auto Assault, Dungeon Runners and Tabula Rasa doing these days? 

If you don't think it's a matter of time before you can buy new super-duper neato wings for your little ballerina, you're deluding yourself. 

I wouldnt care, as long as i can get pink ones.

As a matter of fact I dont play WoW,. but reading all of these posts and seeing about this think its a good idea.. if you dont like it you don t have to buy the pet or even play WoW... i am sure none of you will be missed...

I guess that sealed the deal. Cataclysm seemed interesting and I was considering returning at that point, but no more. I won't play P2P games with RMT attached.

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Simiel

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Bolshevikftw

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

 

 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

 

 

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

 

Sadly, your sarcasm will be lost on most of the disgruntled ex-WoW players in this thread.  Pity too.  You're damn funny! :)

 

Truth....some people just don't know what to do with it.  I think most of us who have no problem with the pets....have already stated we KNOW they're doing it to make money.  None of us have feigned SHOCK that a business would....zomg noooes...MAKE MONEY!!!  O.O  It's the rest of the posters that find it wrong to make money continually....but I bet a LOT of them are planning on getting Windows 7....

 

It's only okay for SOME corporations to make money.  Others, well....mostly just Blizzard....shouldn't want to DO that naughty thing.

 

Funny too, being if any ONE single person in this thread that is WHINING actually OWNED Blizzard....they wouldn't think making more money would be such a bad thing at all.  Of course....they will all SAY they wouldn't care about such things as money....because none of them will likely ever be in the position TO care about their billions of dollars, now will they?  LMAO  If any of them were billionaires and you told them, "You don't need any more money!  Give your work away for free from now on!"  They would laugh uncontrollably.  But since it's not THEIR money....well now....that's a different story.

 

By the way....your new name for MMORPG.com is spot on.

 

His sarcasm and your sarcasm put together is nowhere as funny as a my pretty accurate depiction of what you would look like in real life.

My point is, trying to make him sound funny make you sound dumb.

I'll start laughing when you reply to this post. I'll see what kind of lame shit you try to make out to be funny. You're obviously trying to defend Blizzard with illogical desperate reasoning.

Do you think a company with million subscribers each of whom giving them 15 dollars a month needs more money than they are already making?

 

Who is illogical and desperate here:

 

The person that is foolish enough to think that a BUSINESS ever quits caring about making money, or the person that recognizes a BUSINESS as just that....a business?

 

Frankly, I don't think I'm the one "looking dumb" here.....

 

If YOU owned Blizzard....I'm sure you would just stop making more money once you hit the what....50 billion dollar mark?  Or...how about a trillion?   Just when is the "cut off point" for when businesses should no longer be allowed to make any more money?  Let's go for a socialist state and set some sort of LIMIT on how much money YOU....yes you....can make at your job.  I think that's a brilliant idea.  Or do limits on the amount of money you can make only apply to corporations?  Do you need to be reminded about a little company called Microsoft?  Now....don't you go and buy Windows 7 because, well....you know, Microsoft ALREADY HAS ENOUGH MONEY.

 

Seriously.  Saying a company "doesn't need any more money," is just ignorant.  If your bills are paid and you have food and shelter....I don't think YOU need any more money either.  But maybe you'd still like to make money for your efforts.  Well...I don't know if you should be able to do that.   Someone should be allowed to determine when YOU have "made enough money."  I nominate ME. 

 

Yup, you've made enough money.  Now, from now on....you can just forward me your paychecks from your work and effort, because....you've made enough money.  I mean....how ridiculous that entire argument is...lol.

See, I was so right.

<<<< genius

lol it's okay, it's blizzard/wow! 

As I said before, the whole race/faction/sex/name/etc/etc changes are an "Item Mall" Shop.  Instead of an ingame item to change how you look, you do it when you log in.  Now you get an actually in game item.  People have said no no, it's cool for wow to do it. But god I would never play "Insert game with RMTs" in them.

I have no problem with RMTs, nor with blizzard doing this.  If people pay, that's their thing.  I know a lot who did pay for the pet.  I just think is is VERY silly that people are perfectly fine with what blizzard is doing, and how, as I have said, are changing it more and more into a normal shop.  Yet other games aren't allowed to have it.

If you guys moped up all your nerd rage drool, then maybe you could donate it to a 3rd world country. Seriously, i would consider thinking about it.

Its really funny to see, how Wow-Fanboys defend the move by blizz to add a item store. The same people judged about SoE having done the same some time ago. Wowers are really brainwashed by the blizz marketing machine...

Originally posted by Isaralas

If you guys moped up all your nerd rage drool, then maybe you could donate it to a 3rd world country. Seriously, i would consider thinking about it.

So why don't you consider writing a $5 dollars check to a charity organization?

The pixel pets magically transformed WoW nerds (who know little about the world around the live in, about who they are even "donating" to) into charitable little baby angels with shining halos, pure white wings, and golden-shined curly hair with beautiful crystal eyes carrying a good as fuck soul, so cute.

Who cares, WoW's such a shit game already.

Originally posted by Kilmar

Its really funny to see, how Wow-Fanboys defend the move by blizz to add a item store. The same people judged about SoE having done the same some time ago. Wowers are really brainwashed by the blizz marketing machine...

Except it's just a vanity pet that does nothing that affects gameplay. It's open to be obtained by anyone.

RMT that has no impact on gameplay is not some evil corporation trick to suck money out of everyone. It's capitalism. If you want it, it's there for you to buy.

Too many immature whiners playing MMOs these days, we're really tired of all your anti-fanboy posts about WoW too you know.

I wish Mmorpg.com would stop being some cesspool of WoW-hating rebellious children.

It's a RMT cash shop.

As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop. Vanity or not, it's extra costs on a P2P service. Mark my words, a couple months from now you'll find just about anything sold in Blizzard cash shop, just the way it happened with SOE and Cryptic.

I know you people love the games this company produce. This however does not excuse such shady actions. Too bad, I was hoping that Blizzard would keep the RMT free castle, I was mistaken.

Don't try and spin it as a mmorg.com vs WoW debate. This same issue was raised with EQ2, when they introduced their cash shop, with Champions Online and now unfortunately with WoW.

We bitched when SoE did it and we bitched when Cryptic did it..

Its sad to see one of the once great companies turn to one of the worst.... seems like the only creativity coming out of Blizzard theese days is to find new ways how to get as much money from their fans as possible.

And its sad to see the WoW fans defend this, it means this is just the beginning :(

What can you expect when you read all those asshat comments from the head of Activision Blizzard?

Do you think that guy cares about the product he sells? He's just converting Blizzard into EA.

Originally posted by Xasapis

What can you expect when you read all those asshat comments from the head of Activision Blizzard?

Do you think that guy cares about the product he sells? He's just converting Blizzard into EA.

Lol, doesn't matter unfortunately. When you have rabid fanbois , you can candy coat pig shit and they'll still buy it.

So, just because they offered pets via a non ingame source before, it excuses introducing an RTM cash now? I like your "they can't do no wrong no matter what" approach to all things Blizzard, but seriously, this time they crossed a line I hoped they never would. I actually hoped that they would be among the few companies that would promote RMT free P2P games. Too bad I guess.

Did you miss the riot when EQ2 introduced their cash shop?

Did you miss the more recent riot when Champions Online introduced their own shop?

Do you know what these two had in common? They started with pretty "innocent" sales at first, paving the ground for a full blown RMT shop. Blizzard is following the exact same trend. In fact, they mimic EQ2 model to the letter. I guess that other thread that proclaimed SOE as the leader in the MMO business was proven correct. The problem is that we are led to places we'd rather not. Hence the (repeated once more) arguments against RMT shops on P2P games.

Originally posted by MikeB

You heard that right, World of Warcraft just got an in-game (pet) store. The new store is selling two new pets: the Pandaren Monk Charity Pet, and the Lil' K.T., mini-Lich pet. Both pets will sell for $10 a pop, with 50% of the Pandaren Monk's proceeds (for Pandaren Monks sold between now and the end of the year) going to the Make-a-Wish foundation.

It's important to note that these pets are strictly vanity pets and serve no combat function whatsoever.

For additional information on the new service, check out the Pet Store FAQ.

Amazing.  Absolutely amazing.

Thank you Blizzard for giving us who use F2P games some fodder to fire back at the WoW fanboys!

Retail purchase, suscription AND cash shop?  Not only that, it's an expensive cash shop.

I'm glad I'm not paying Blizzard to pay them again in game.

 

It shows the overall attitude that REIGNS on mmorpg.com.

And you are ONE of them X, sure is.

It makes mmorpg.com the laughing joke of the web.

And yet you are here, and with your post count, it seems you fit in rather nicely...wouldn't you agree?!

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

It's a RMT cash shop.

As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop. Vanity or not, it's extra costs on a P2P service. Mark my words, a couple months from now you'll find just about anything sold in Blizzard cash shop, just the way it happened with SOE and Cryptic.

I know you people love the games this company produce. This however does not excuse such shady actions. Too bad, I was hoping that Blizzard would keep the RMT free castle, I was mistaken.

Don't try and spin it as a mmorg.com vs WoW debate. This same issue was raised with EQ2, when they introduced their cash shop, with Champions Online and now unfortunately with WoW.

 

No it ain't.

And you know VERY well you are again intellectual DISHONEST.

What's the difference between a CARD game loot card "pet"  from the collectable card game you PAY for and the Blizzard pet from BlizzCon you PAY for.

Nothing.

The vanity items go IN and OUT of the game already for 4 to 5 years (2 years for the Card game).

So there was not even a change in policy. Those items have ZERO impact on the game.

 

The card game is its own product and as a bonus you can get in-game pets... That is NOT the same thing as buying that bonus for $10! Its just crazy how they can sell something like that for $10.. Its almost 1 month of subscription for a stupid thing that Blizzard knows alot of people will buy no matter what.

I asked this before but got no answer.. Since WoW already gave you 100+ pets for free, how come they charge you$10 for theese?

Buying the box + expansions + monthly sub doesnt seem to cover fluff items anymore... Whether or not it has an impact on gameplay is irrelevant (or not really since that would be even worse but I guess that the same people would be here defending it).

 AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F U BLIZZARD!!!!

So now you are going to release less pets unless we buy them as luxury micro transaction retail objects? F U F U FU U F'ers!

Give me a game that doesn't want to lull us in then rip us off for every penny we have and then some more! You've lost now Blizz. L O S T !

I would gladly spare some money for the make a wich foundation, but its a American thing , so i dont realy care about that, if it were for Swedish kids i would do it, but who cares about Us

Originally posted by econ24

Blizzard has finally done it, lol. It's pretty funny to see them join the cash-shop bandwagon. $10 a pet is INSANE though.

Agree. Despite I love wow and Blizzart to me has the best marketing staf and programmers ... at least to be honest they should give all 10$ to charity.

Actually there is a difference between the trading card game and an ingame item shop. A trading card game is a separate entity from the online game.

The RMT shop is part of the online game. Hence when you subscribe to the online game, you also subscribe to the cash shop.

Bottom line, RMT cash shops in P2P games are bad. Blizzard introduced one, masked as charity, to gauge the potential market. I'm just waiting for them to expand it now. Then the discussion (and your arguments) will be more interesting to hear, especially the part where you'll be trying to excuse Blizzard. It's probably going to be down the same line others followed, ie, it's business and they care about money and it's normal that it's introduced.

I think some of the more pro blizzard people are missing something, and not quite thinking about this. I understand you like the game, love the company whatever...

How about rather than attack the posters who do not like this idea, you try and understand why they don't like it. To call a concern being expressed a slippery slope argument is a full on cop out. What bothers you about someone not liking the idea of MT in their games? Fluff items are where it always begins. When no one speaks up, they move on to selling items. When no one still speaks up they sell dominate items. As well as cheats to make the game easier. Will this happen? WHo knows, I see no reason for those who oppose the idea to stop speaking up, why do you?

Originally posted by Xasapis

Actually there is a difference between the trading card game and an ingame item shop. A trading card game is a separate entity from the online game.

The RMT shop is part of the online game. Hence when you subscribe to the online game, you also subscribe to the cash shop.

Bottom line, RMT cash shops in P2P games are bad. Blizzard introduced one, masked as charity, to gauge the potential market. I'm just waiting for them to expand it now. Then the discussion (and your arguments) will be more interesting to hear, especially the part where you'll be trying to excuse Blizzard. It's probably going to be down the same line others followed, ie, it's business and they care about money and it's normal that it's introduced.

for sure.  And even though other games will do this, people will bitch and moan and scream.  But almighty blizzard can do as they wish.

As I've said. I don't mind the shop.  I like the idea.  I want the perky pug, and I would pay 10 bucks for it.  That's what I like.  Someone might love the little KT thingy.  I doubt the cash shop will catch on for other games like it's about to for wow.  This is going to be a crazy cash thing for blizzard.  They are going to release things like the pets, and make millions more.

I don't mind the idea, if it were 20 pets to chose. But 2 means everyon ends up having the same, and where is the fun in that??

Originally posted by Ztekan

I would gladly spare some money for the make a wich foundation, but its a American thing , so i dont realy care about that, if it were for Swedish kids i would do it, but who cares about Us the world raper

It might be wise to remember the difference between a country and its people, and the government that *rules* them.

Our young adventures from the <WoW sux0r> guild are waylayed on their way to Tesco's by a hideous beast.

If our adventures dont succeed it will mean the END OF THE WORLD... of warcraft.

Originally posted by coffee

Our young adventures from the <WoW sux0r> guild are waylayed on their way to Tesco's by a hideous beast.

If our adventures dont succeed it will mean the END OF THE WORLD... of warcraft.

Haha, the next was the best from Aion and WAR. XD

by all that is holy and good on this earth, i was seriously thinking about giving cataclysm a try but now this? yeah i just snapped my discs and tossed everything into the garbage. this is indeed a sad day for the MMO genre, nobody likes to admit it but blizzard sets the standard and now every game out there is going to start in with this RMT nonsense. i suddenly find myself even more anxious and wanting a (large flightless bird) to be done so i can play a good MMO in peace without having to worry about some lazy talentless hack with entitlement issues demanding he be given everything even though he only plays on the weekends for an hour.

No one but the WoW haters care.

Blizzard .... are you really Blizzard...

MMMM..

Blizzard is doing a P2P game with F2P type added to it..

They Fooled me with the Paid  Server Change thing  and Change Alliance and the Change Female and Male as well as the Change Race.. i complete didn't add it all up..

I didn't  see this

I have OPENED me EyeS

Blizzard is not the Blizzard it was.. i rembered some comment in Blzzcon 2009..

They have merged with another company was what they said..

So now with no Cover Up in plain site anyone with their eyes open can see

PET STORE

Yes Blizzard has now entered the  same realm as all the F2P games... But they require you to buy their game.

Blizzard is getting the Cake and the Pie with all the toppings...

Blizzard are you gonna make the new Xpac  F2P ? 

if you do i still feel cheated you promised to me a game with monthly fees 14.95  i have paid my fees

since 2004... you ........................ i can't say now what i feel... but i am hurt!!

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

It won't start as just handing out epics... it'll be "hey, if you spend $5, you can get this key to this dungeon with all of these great things that ONLY people with this key can access!" Or it will be special holiday "gift" boxes that when opened have various things in them. There will be costumes. And then it'll lead to heirloom BoA weapons that Blizz claims "doesn't affect the end-game and just helps people level up faster and better."

Basically all the excuses the free to play games use because... that's the only way they can make money. But the "things you pay for that don't affect the end-game" in a pay MMO? Yeah, not buying it.

Pets used to be special event rewards or quest chain rewards or gifts for buying a collector's edition.

I don't understand why Blizzard would toss a shop in the game and charge 10 bucks for a damn mini pet.

What's next mounts? social clothing like special dresses and tuxedoes? Masks?

Blizzard doesn't need to do something like this.

I will not play any game that sells digital items. I play games to have all items obtained from in game. If you are going to start selling items in game, no matter how trivial it is no longer a game but a online digital store. No, thanks. I was all ready to buy and play the new expansion but now World of Warcraft just went on my "will not play list". I will go elsewhere and if every online game tries this crap, I will quit all together.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

 

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

 

I still do not care.  Let people buy what the market will allow.  Does not effect me at all.  Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything.  I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game.  I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.

Originally posted by blackthornn

coming soon*

 

buy a full suit of epix, half the proceeds go to the [insert charity of the month here], a full suit only $200us.

 

(btw, nice to see Bliz jump on the bandwagon after guildwars2 lets a make a wish kid add content to the upcoming game)

 

oh, and half the panda dude's proceeds, not the other purely bliz profit pet :)

Blizzard let a kid for "make a wish" add content, items,quest and NPC to TBC.. so its gildewars jumping on the bandwangon.

Coffee crits Blacktornn for 30,000!

Originally posted by Horusra

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Horusra

No one but the WoW haters care.

 

I completely disagree, I care for one and am in no way a wow hater. Blizzard is a trend setter as is SOE to a lesser extent. Adding fluff is acceptable in my opinion, other items are not so bad either. However when we move into the realm of adding epics, cheats or fully leveled characters there's something wrong. Is Blizzard doing that? No, not yet. However, that doesn't mean they won't.  Which at the time being, others already are and even to a greater extent. Some of us do not like this idea, and hope it fails in the long run. Cash shops in f2p is one thing, but on top of a monthly sub I have have a problem with it.

Is this an issue that will keep me from playing a game? No.

That doesn't mean I should not voice my pessimistic view of such systems.

 

 

I still do not care.  Let people buy what the market will allow.  Does not effect me at all.  Might effect your need to show achievement to others through your button pushing on a game, but for me does not change anything.  I do not find my sense of accomplishment in life from a game.  I play them to entertain myself not show off how long I wasted my time in one.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree, I haven't stuck with an MMO since SWG was ruined. What is an achievement? In our community we hated "ebayers" it's what I'm used to I guess. The loathed bought jedi especially was a peeve of many players. I don't like the idea of attempting to buy an advantage -edit-, or attemtping to sell one.

Their next step is each time you repair the armour your wearing it's max durability decreased. You need fairy powder to increase the max durability of your armor. Which is $10 for 50.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Pets used to be special event rewards or quest chain rewards or gifts for buying a collector's edition.

I don't understand why Blizzard would toss a shop in the game and charge 10 bucks for a damn mini pet.

What's next mounts? social clothing like special dresses and tuxedoes? Masks?

Blizzard doesn't need to do something like this.

Um, they still are. This dosn't do anything to the pets you can get in game. Its just another option.

Well this is just great. I can hear Richard Aihoshi bashing out the inevitable MMORPG article on 'How great it is WoW has embraced RMT/Cash shops' etc. There will be no living with him now.

If I had a WoW account I'd cancel it, luckily I already did that some time ago.

Hey look a cucumber.

Originally posted by Xasapis

It's a RMT cash shop.

As far as I'm concerned, Blizzard is receiving the same treatment Cryptic received when they introduced their own cash shop.

Yep, tons of money and happy players.

I know, terrible image quality, that's what I get for being lazy and just using the fast option here.

I canceled my account when they released bc and their greens were better than T3

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

Whats to stop them from going further? after all, everything they saw theyll never do they do anyway so why should this be any different.

Well I see this thread is still going. It seems that this forum is just as mature as System Wars at Gamespot. This whole outrage over completely optional items that in no way effect other players is comparable to the illogical reaction some people had to 360s achivements.

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

 

Whats to stop them from going further? after all, everything they saw theyll never do they do anyway so why should this be any different.

 

There is nothing to stop blizzard from going further.  There is no real competition in the marketplace except for the the government of china shutting down mmos. 

Blizzard could raise subs, make the entire game cash shop based with little fear, because the rest of the market sucks and most people would just go back. 

That is the sad reality.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Stunning. It's like a surreal farce.

 

Like Bill Gates selling his autograph on a street corner.

 

Blizzard's rep is going to take a beating for the sheer unrepentant greed they are exhibiting these days.

Lovely. Another anti-capitalist drooler bleating and whining because a company is trying to make a legitimate buck. Can you stick that lower lip out any farther cry-baby?

Get real folks. For the price of a movie ticket you can enjoy an in-game pet for many more hours than that movie lasted. Lunch money. You grade school thinkers probably get twice that a week in allowance money.

My only complaint here is that the pet doesn't transfer over should you move a toon to another account. I'd prefer that it did.

;)

Originally posted by Smokeysong

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Stunning. It's like a surreal farce.

 

Like Bill Gates selling his autograph on a street corner.

 

Blizzard's rep is going to take a beating for the sheer unrepentant greed they are exhibiting these days.

 

Lovely. Another anti-capitalist drooler bleating and whining because a company is trying to make a legitimate buck. Can you stick that lower lip out any farther cry-baby?

Get real folks. For the price of a movie ticket you can enjoy an in-game pet for many more hours than that movie lasted. Lunch money. You grade school thinkers probably get twice that a week in allowance money.

My only complaint here is that the pet doesn't transfer over should you move a toon to another account. I'd prefer that it did.

;)

You can always buy another one.

Originally posted by Daffid011

There is nothing to stop blizzard from going further.  There is no real competition in the marketplace except for the the government of china shutting down mmos. 

Blizzard could raise subs, make the entire game cash shop based with little fear, because the rest of the market sucks and most people would just go back. 

 

That is the sad reality.

 

This is a game, not an OS (Just to compare). What's to stop them? The people, effectively able to cancel their subs and uninstall the game. They can take it as far as they would want to, but at some point it will bite them in their ass.

Honestly though, are we still discussing the optional pet? The one you can buy for a lousy 5 bucks? The one which you can choose NOT to buy? Damn you, Blizzard, for forcing all these options down my throat!

This is almost like the whole "Violent Videogames make kids kill!" crap. Let's blame everything but ourselves!

I am sorry but their share prices are just going up...so I am buying more.

Originally posted by Eben

You know, it's rather funny.  If NCsoft, Cryptic, Mythic, Adventurine, Turbine, and especially SOE, or any of these other little companies did this, people wouldn't bat an eyelash, because quite frankly, it's expected, eventually.  But because it's Blizzard, people are going *berserk*.  Way to subconsciously say that you expect more from Blizzard, all these kids and disgruntled 'hard-core' MMO gamers that spew bile at WoW -constantly-...

...and what's even more laughable, there is no way to counter it, because the only reason all these non-WoW players would even give two shits about this, is because subconsciously they *know* that Blizzard rules this genre, and now that Blizzard did it, all these other little crappy companies with their garbage games will trot right along behind, copying and doing the same damn thing, because Blizzard just made it acceptable. 

So keep bitching guys...it's hilarious.

You may want to do your homework on that one.  Before CO launched, Cryptic announced it would have an RMT.  The shitteth hitteth the fan.  You can look at older threads on the subject.  Heck, I think there is a new one about the retcon being added, but hey, why research.  Just post anything that proves your point.  A lot of people believe that if they pay 15 bucks a month, everything should be included in that price.  Seems logical.

I really don't have a problem with p2p+RMT.  I just refuse to buy anything from the store.  I can see the viewpoint of the people on the other side of the fence though.

Originally posted by coffee

Hey look a cucumber.

noooooooo Blizzard will try and sell it in thier store lol

sounds the just like the eq2 store were you can only buy strictly cosmetic items / pets / crap for your house ect (all junk!)...  I for one don't know why anyone would bother buying this crap, but I guess some players do because all games seem to sell it now.  I just hope they NEVER start selling stuff that will actually effect real game play.

The real money is in the experience potions.   It won't be long now.  I just wish blizzard had the balls to just raise the subscription price to 20 bucks if they need more money.   These lame workarounds suck.   No use arguing about this.   If you like cash shop keep playing.   If you don't cancel.    I for one will cancel.  

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by Ztekan

I would gladly spare some money for the make a wich foundation, but its a American thing , so i dont realy care about that, if it were for Swedish kids i would do it, but who cares about Us the world raper

 

It might be wise to remember the difference between a country and its people, and the government that *rules* them.

It also might be wise to remember that there is no where in the world Europe has not pillaged and raped of its resources, more then a little of that within living memory.

Originally posted by qombi

I will not play any game that sells digital items. I play games to have all items obtained from in game. If you are going to start selling items in game, no matter how trivial it is no longer a game but a online digital store. No, thanks. I was all ready to buy and play the new expansion but now World of Warcraft just went on my "will not play list". I will go elsewhere and if every online game tries this crap, I will quit all together.

 

Thats your choice...<shrug> But the expression "throwing the baby out with the bath water" comes to mind.  Given all of the hysteria from people, one might think that they plan on selling T12 gear in the shop, rather than vanity pets.   I'm certain the hysterics will claim that such is "coming soon!"...<rolls eyes>

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by drajaic

Sometimes the overwhelming sheer stupidity exhibited by the lurkers of this site overwhelm me...

 

Why are you introducing this service?

The Pet Store provides a new way for players to obtain unique companion pets outside of the game, which is something that has been requested by many players who enjoy World of Warcraft's non-combat companions.

 

Does this mean you'll be introducing more services like this in the future? Will you be introducing the ability to buy epic weapons/etc. in the future, for example?

As with the pets, mounts, and other items players can obtain through Loot cards from the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game, Pet Store pets are purely cosmetic and just for fun. Like other paid services we offer, such as Paid Name Changes, Race Changes, and Character Re-Customizations, the Pet Store service is entirely optional and intended to provide players another means to enjoy World of Warcraft in a way that isn't detrimental to the game and that doesn't detract from the gameplay experience for players who choose not to use the service.

Plus...

How much of every Pandaren Monk pet sale will go to charity?

For each Pandaren Monk sale, we'll donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. For more information on this charity, visit www.wish.org.

 

Yes, Blizzard is an evil greedy corporation hell bent on world domination through the sale of digital sex changes and non-combat pets. /rolls eyes If you're going to be a troll/game-hater, at least do your homework and not come off as a retarded douchebag.

 

Whats to stop them from going further? after all, everything they saw theyll never do they do anyway so why should this be any different.

 

There is nothing to stop blizzard from going further.  There is no real competition in the marketplace except for the the government of china shutting down mmos. 

Blizzard could raise subs, make the entire game cash shop based with little fear, because the rest of the market sucks and most people would just go back. 

 

That is the sad reality.

 

"Bad translation mode:ON"

In A.D 2009 War was beginning...

Hysteric1: What happen?!?

Hysteric2:  Someone set us up the Cash Shop!!

Hysteric:2 We get signal!

Hysteric1: What?!?

Hysteric2: Main Screen Turn On!

Hysteric1: Its YOU!!

Blizzard: How are you gentlemen? All Your Subs Are Belong To Us!

Blizzard: You are on the way to Cancellation.

Hysteric1: What you say?!?

Blizzard: You have no chance of success make your time.

Blizzard: Ha Ha Ha Ha...

Hysteric1: Take off every Troll !

Hysteric2: You know what you doing?!?

Hysteric1: Move Trolls!

Hysteric1: For GREAT JUSTICE!!

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by whisperwynd

 

And yet you are here, and with your post count, it seems you fit in rather nicely...wouldn't you agree?!

 

Someone has to make clear for what mmorgp.com stands for.

If you think this site is doing GOOD things about mmorpg's, just look through the forums and editorials.

It is as if these guys live on another PLANET.

So can one explain me WHAT is the difference between a BOUGHT BlizzCon pet of ... 125 dollars and a BOUGHT pet from the CCG at 300 dollars and the new in game pet for ... 10 dollars ????

So this exists already 4 years (meanigless pets you can buy IN and OUT of the game).

Only MMORPG.COM is making an issue out of a non issue that ... exists already for ... 5 years ?

BUT some REAL new techniques like the cross dungeons servers - which is a BUZZ all over the internet - is completly IGNORED by mmorpg.com ...

That's why mmorpg.com is living on another planet and it has ZERO representation concerning mmo's these days.

Their choice of course: BUT I am the one pointing that out.

With FACTS.

 

Again, you miss my point entirely and worse, you make an even bigger moron of yourself.
 

 You try to scoff and degrade Mmorpg.com and its members for its freedom of expression on an obvious touchy subject by some , all the while proclaiming your facts as truth?! 

By your own logic, preaching to idiots only ever makes you the leading idiot.

I could care less for the vanity pets or the RMT in WoW. I still enjoy it and play from time to time. The only ones arguing are those with some distorted sense ethical wrongness on Blizz's part. But as long as people will buy these things, the more we will see them. Period.

Your constant regurgitations of your obviously biased, and illogical opinions is the only thing I wish to reply to, even though it's in vain as I already know it will no effect on a mind as narrow and obtuse as yours but my boredom got the better of me this evening.

Originally posted by Simiel

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Simiel

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Bolshevikftw

Wait...so a company whose main goal is selling another product....for cash!  Oh god the humanity, why on earth would a corporation EVER want to make money....This is an outrage, I am going to quit WoW over this despite the fact that it will not affect my gameplay at all.  Can you believe they have the nerve to say they are giving 50% of the money from one pet to charity!  What kind of nonsense is that, it isn't as if a million or so people are going to buy it making it a $5,000,000 donation or anything like that, they obviously should disregard their status as a corporation and just give WoW away for free since they have made so much money off of us.  

     This is is a very sad day indeed, WoW is now obviously a microtransaction game since not having these pets will cause my enjoyment of this game to be lessened directly as a result! 

 

 

~Not really disgruntled wow player

 

 

P.S.

I believe we should rename this site to www.wehatewow.com as that would be a more appropriate name

 

Sadly, your sarcasm will be lost on most of the disgruntled ex-WoW players in this thread.  Pity too.  You're damn funny! :)

 

Truth....some people just don't know what to do with it.  I think most of us who have no problem with the pets....have already stated we KNOW they're doing it to make money.  None of us have feigned SHOCK that a business would....zomg noooes...MAKE MONEY!!!  O.O  It's the rest of the posters that find it wrong to make money continually....but I bet a LOT of them are planning on getting Windows 7....

 

It's only okay for SOME corporations to make money.  Others, well....mostly just Blizzard....shouldn't want to DO that naughty thing.

 

Funny too, being if any ONE single person in this thread that is WHINING actually OWNED Blizzard....they wouldn't think making more money would be such a bad thing at all.  Of course....they will all SAY they wouldn't care about such things as money....because none of them will likely ever be in the position TO care about their billions of dollars, now will they?  LMAO  If any of them were billionaires and you told them, "You don't need any more money!  Give your work away for free from now on!"  They would laugh uncontrollably.  But since it's not THEIR money....well now....that's a different story.

 

By the way....your new name for MMORPG.com is spot on.

 

His sarcasm and your sarcasm put together is nowhere as funny as a my pretty accurate depiction of what you would look like in real life.

My point is, trying to make him sound funny make you sound dumb.

I'll start laughing when you reply to this post. I'll see what kind of lame shit you try to make out to be funny. You're obviously trying to defend Blizzard with illogical desperate reasoning.

Do you think a company with million subscribers each of whom giving them 15 dollars a month needs more money than they are already making?

 

Who is illogical and desperate here:

 

The person that is foolish enough to think that a BUSINESS ever quits caring about making money, or the person that recognizes a BUSINESS as just that....a business?

 

Frankly, I don't think I'm the one "looking dumb" here.....

 

If YOU owned Blizzard....I'm sure you would just stop making more money once you hit the what....50 billion dollar mark?  Or...how about a trillion?   Just when is the "cut off point" for when businesses should no longer be allowed to make any more money?  Let's go for a socialist state and set some sort of LIMIT on how much money YOU....yes you....can make at your job.  I think that's a brilliant idea.  Or do limits on the amount of money you can make only apply to corporations?  Do you need to be reminded about a little company called Microsoft?  Now....don't you go and buy Windows 7 because, well....you know, Microsoft ALREADY HAS ENOUGH MONEY.

 

Seriously.  Saying a company "doesn't need any more money," is just ignorant.  If your bills are paid and you have food and shelter....I don't think YOU need any more money either.  But maybe you'd still like to make money for your efforts.  Well...I don't know if you should be able to do that.   Someone should be allowed to determine when YOU have "made enough money."  I nominate ME. 

 

Yup, you've made enough money.  Now, from now on....you can just forward me your paychecks from your work and effort, because....you've made enough money.  I mean....how ridiculous that entire argument is...lol.

 

See, I was so right.

<<<< genius

The fact that you're younger than my youngest child helps to explain why you know nothing at all about business.  It also goes a long way in explaining why you think you're a genius. The grandiosity of teenagers knows no bounds.

Perhaps, if / when you go to college, you'll take a business and economics course and it will all make more sense to you some day, young padawan.  Businesses make money.  It's what they do.  If you don't like the product....you don't buy it.  That's so utterly basic, a 4 year old could understand it.  I fail to see why, at the ripe old age of 19, you can't seem to wrap your mind around something so simple.

"Oooo waaaah, but Blizzard doesn't NEEEEEEED any more money!!!"   lol 

 poor blizzard must makes more money, sell your soul to by a pet!! lol, how sad.

Originally posted by girlgeek

 

"Oooo waaaah, but Blizzard doesn't NEEEEEEED any more money!!!"   lol 

Ironic way of showing your own maturity, there.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by girlgeek

 

"Oooo waaaah, but Blizzard doesn't NEEEEEEED any more money!!!"   lol 

Ironic way of showing your own maturity, there.

  I was quoting HIM, my dear.  Check back in his earlier posts.....  Quotation marks, usually mean you're quoting someone.

  If you mean the "lol" part, well...it's pretty hard not to laugh at someone who decries that someone, anyone, or any company, "doesn't NEED more money."  That's just a complete lack of understanding LIFE.

 One result of this - we get to see who on the forums are the Blizzard tools willing to bend over while spouting Marketing PR spin and who still retain enough independent thought to consider what this actually means for the game.

Originally posted by Alienovrlord

 One result of this - we get to see who on the forums are the Blizzard tools willing to bend over while spouting Marketing PR spin and who still retain enough independent thought to consider what this actually means for the game.

It has nothing to do with the fact that it's "Blizzard," at least not for me.  Maybe I'm a marketing "tool," rather than a "Blizzard tool," as you so maturely put it. If the definition of "tool" is someone that believes in a capitalistic society, and companies having a right to make as much money as they're able, legally....yup, then I'm a "tool." If you hate the system of capitalism, sure...the argument makes sense. Socialism works beautifully on paper. Perhaps we can convert the gaming industry to a socialist system and put a hard cap limit on the amount of money each developer can make before being legally forced to stop attempting to profit. 

Some of us believe that people (and corporations OF people)  have a right to legally make money....LOADS of it, if they're able...off of consumers that WANT to buy a product they offer. Where there is no demand....eventually....there is no supply. So I am ALL FOR people speaking with their pocketbooks.  Buy what you like...don't buy what you don't.  How simple is that?

See, the hilarious thing about this entire thread though....is the fact that if it was ANY OTHER GAMING DEVELOPER...it wouldn't be such an enormous hot topic.  But OMG...it's B L I Z Z A R D!  *faints* So many many other game developers choose to sell in game items that do INDEED change the game balance, and yet....the intellectual readers of MMORPG.com go absolutely ape shit when Blizzard decides to sell two measly little vanity pets.  Amazing. Even when SoE went this direction with EQ2....the fuss was relatively small in comparison. And a good many of the people that are whining about it....don't even play WoW. Hilarious.

Furthermore, unless you have psychic gifting and a crystal ball that never fails to predict the future accurately....no one can feign to KNOW what is going to happen next.  And honestly....I don't see why it even really MATTERS what they do next.  Why DOES it matter?  It's pixels on a monitor.  It's just PIXELS.  People are acting like it's determining life or death for the population of the planet.  Good gawd....priorities, people.  Do you really place THIS MUCH VALUE on a GAME?????

I don't understand why people don't just look at this and go, "Gee...it's a game. Big freakin' deal."  People are getting their panties in a twist over something so TOTALLY insignificant in life, that's it's absolutely altogether ludicrous....and desperately SAD that anyone finds changes in a GAME....a silly game....to be worth being so offended and indignant.  What terrifically screwed up priorities in life this hobby seems to nurture in people.

As far as "independent thought" goes....sure it's really NOT being a lemming to jump on the "crucify Blizzard" boat.  I mean....it's real independent thinking, because well....that's so very radical and NO ONE else is on that bandwagon.  That would be a really lonely lonely position of "independence" to take THAT ride......  /rolls eyes    If it wasn't Blizzard....would anyone really care this much?  I doubt it.

I'd like to think that "independent thought" requires critical thinking, and not psychic predictions and sheep-like herd behavior, but then....that's just my own way of thinking.  I like to step back and try to look at the whole big picture from an OBJECTIVE standpoint.  I don't even play WoW right now, so I have no "vested interest" in what happens with it.  It's just a game among a virtual sea of games before it and many that will come after.  It's a hobby, gaming....it's NOT a way of life, a religion, a family, etc. But the way people FREAK OUT over every little thing these developers do....simply tells me....that we obviously don't have enough to worry about in our own REAL lives to make such a fuss over pixels. And having now said that....I will gracefully bow out of this ridiculously twisted topic of such GREAT priority, and go back to the REAL world. 

I certainly hope you all can solve this great and torturous dilemma before the internet collapses from the weight of it all.

The title of this thread is in error.

Where can I go to purchase these pets?

You can purchase these in-game companions by visiting this link or heading to the online Blizzard Store, where you'll find the Pet Store pets under the Collectibles tab.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

The title of this thread is in error.

Where can I go to purchase these pets?

You can purchase these in-game companions by visiting this link or heading to the online Blizzard Store, where you'll find the Pet Store pets under the Collectibles tab.

 WOOOT!

I wonder when we can buy Super Speed potions, to make traveling easier.

And Teleport Scrolls, that will instantly teleport you to any major city in the world.

And AI Henchmen so you can two man and solo the Raids :-)

good times! ^_^

Originally posted by coffee

 

I just logged into WoW.

There are not people running around shouting "the end is nigh", general chat is the usual "LF1M tank Naxx 10", no mention at all of this "cash shop".

I asked the 14 guild mates online, 1 said he was worried where it might go, the other 13 said they dont care.

So I asked Actual players and shortly watched general chat and WoW is just the same.

Blizzard are not a stupid company they know that subscription MMO's are becoming less attractive, the paid4 characters transfers, faction transfers etc seem to be doing well so blizzard are now trialing paid4 vanity items.  Its good business, blizzard dont stay on top by sitting on their hands.

It is good business, and one thing Blizzard is, is good at business. That is afterall how WoW got to the place it is now, good business by Blizzard. Think of it this way, bad economic times, Christmas around the corner, offer up two relatively cheap and universally cute items to give for Christmas to the 11+ million people world wide that wont' break the bank. AND give Blizzard some good PR for donating half the proceeds on sales until December 31st to Make a Wish Foundation. This isn't about a huge conspiracy to take WoW into RMT, its about making money and good marketing at the right time.

And hey, if it makes you feel more secure, just think of it this way. It's not a cash shop, in-game item, Blizzard is just selling you a single Trading Card Game card for $10 that has the in-game code on it. There, that make it better now?