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General : MMORPG.com is Hiring!

Posted May 28, 2010 by Michael Bitton

MMORPG.com is looking for a part-time News Reporter. This person will be responsible for posting news on the weekends and sometimes on weekdays. The ideal candidate should be able to write feature articles, reviews, and do interviews about online games. Extensive knowledge of the MMO industry is critical to this position. An outgoing personality and ability to communicate well is also a plus as you may be asked to go to a game event.
 
 
What we’re looking for:
·         Experience is a plus, but not necessary.
·         Basic HTML and image editing skills.
·         A solid grasp of the English language, this includes punctuation and grammar.
·         A knowledge of MMO news. We're looking for the type of person who enjoys following the MMO industry and actively plays online games.
·         Must be able to work weekends, this is primarily a weekend position.
 
If you think you fit all the above, send over your resume and cover letter to editor@mmorpg.com and news@mmorpg.com with the subject line MMORPG.com News Reporter Application: (your name).  Applications without the above subject line will be discarded!
 
Please attach samples along with your application. We’d like to see two to three sample news pieces, of course, a sample feature article (no longer than 800 words) won’t hurt your chances either!
 
The deadline for applications is Friday, June 4th, 2010.
 
This is a paid position.
 
 
Tabianna writes:

Is this a paid position?

 

Also, is this a test? "A solid grasp of the English language, this includes punctuation and grammar." That comma should be a semicolon.

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5/28/10 9:14:59 PM
 
MikeB writes:

Yes. This is a paid position.

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5/28/10 9:19:44 PM
 
negentropy writes:

Mike,

As a professional writer who has also managed writing teams, do yourself a favor and insist on 5-7 years of professional writing experience. It makes a world of difference. Trust me. 

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5/28/10 9:29:13 PM
 
CujoSWAoA writes:

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

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5/28/10 10:24:54 PM
 
greed0104 writes:

Let's give Greed0104 his own corner to write about things, make it NSFW so he can be the dick he was born to be.

 

Best Idea ever or bestest idea ever?

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5/28/10 11:39:35 PM
 
negentropy writes:
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

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5/28/10 11:55:30 PM
 
maskedweasel writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

..Your modesty knows no bounds....

 

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

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5/29/10 12:13:25 AM
 
tkobo writes:

What about MMORPG.coms other requirements for such a position ?

You know:

*Treat fluff interviews as "news"
-What dev X ate for breakfast
-treating the normal press release, that people who nothing about the game could have written with the same accuracy,as containing ground breaking news about ground breaking features
-What the devs favorite color is
-how many subscibers are needed to pay his porshe payment for the month

*Remembering, the advertiser is always right .

*Willingness to review dead games, and do "return to X" pieces

*Ability to wear blinders

*Knowledge of the "proper" hero worship to be shown for Dev teams
-When to bow and when to curtsy
-Which finger is the right one to kiss when theres no ring there
-what esle to kiss.....

Etc...

:P

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5/29/10 12:14:30 AM
 
maskedweasel writes:
Originally posted by tkobo

What about MMORPG.coms other requirements for such a position ?

You know:

*Treat fluff interviews as "news"
-What dev X ate for breakfast
-treating the normal press release, that people who nothing about the game could have written with the same accuracy,as containing ground breaking news about ground breaking features
-What the devs favorite color is
-how many subscibers are needed to pay his porshe payment for the month

*Remembering, the advertiser is always right .

*Willingness to review dead games, and do "return to X" pieces

*Ability to wear blinders

*Knowledge of the "proper" hero worship to be shown for Dev teams
-When to bow and when to curtsy
-Which finger is the right one to kiss when theres no ring there
-what esle to kiss.....

Etc...

:P

 

Oh Tkobo you're such a card.  Hopefully those that apply and actually get the job will bring some fresh perspective to the articles here.  No offense to the current staff of course.  To me, a little fun now and then wouldn't hurt.  

 

On the other hand, perhaps "what the devs favorite color is" isn't asked enough.

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5/29/10 12:22:08 AM
 
greed0104 writes:
Originally posted by maskedweasel

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

I've never seen you say anything insulting honestly. I think you would be a pretty decent choice.

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5/29/10 12:28:27 AM
 
arenasb writes:
Originally posted by maskedweasel

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

 Put in your resume. You will never know unless you try. Good luck!

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5/29/10 12:31:17 AM
 
Vagrant_Zero writes:


Originally posted by negentropy


Originally posted by CujoSWAoA
I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.


I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.
5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.
However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

Possessing the basic ability to formulate sentences in a coherent fashion does not automatically make you interesting to read.

Most professional writers I've had the displeasure of working with - while technically proficient - are sterile and lacking in character (their writing that is, not them personally).

Gaming journalists on the other hand, due to the nature of their work, are not only allowed but are in fact expected to be somewhat...colorful in their approach to the English language.

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5/29/10 12:45:16 AM
 
MikeB writes:
Originally posted by arenasb

Originally posted by maskedweasel

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

 Put in your resume. You will never know unless you try. Good luck!

 

Correct! And as a reminder, please send samples!

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5/29/10 12:47:19 AM
 
kaiser3282 writes:
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 


Originally posted by negentropy


Originally posted by CujoSWAoA
I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.



I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.
5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.
However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 


 

Possessing the basic ability to formulate sentences in a coherent fashion does not automatically make you interesting to read.

Most professional writers I've had the displeasure of working with - while technically proficient - are sterile and lacking in character (their writing that is, not them personally).

Gaming journalists on the other hand, due to the nature of their work, are not only allowed but are in fact expected to be somewhat...colorful in their approach to the English language.

 Agreed. As they said, it is preferred bu tnot required. You may have a passion for gaming and be a good writer, but not enough of a passion for writing to have chosen it as a career. At the same time, an experienced writer could have no clue what he's talking about or just completely suck at MMOs. A mix of the 2, and more importantly a love of MMOs is what really matters. Any editor can fix grammar mistakes but they can't convey the ideas, knowledge, and experiences of the writer.

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5/29/10 12:50:37 AM
 
Superthrust writes:

Mike, I have a few "samples" that are on this website, actually. Within my blog and things that were published to the website as news.

 

Also, Tkobo, Though what you say may sound like the norm for SOME other websites, But for as long as i have talked with the staff here and have written things, these are a very happy bunch of folk. Honestly, they are awesome and the community of open minded people who aren't afraid to voice their opinion are great.

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5/29/10 4:55:50 AM
 
Ozmodan writes:

Hope you do better than the person who wrote the 8 part article on Eve.

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5/29/10 7:48:59 AM
 
Xianthos writes:
Originally posted by Ozmodan


Hope you do better than the person who wrote the 8 part article on Eve.

 

He wasnt that bad. He described EvE online pretty nail on the head.

Begining is boring as hell and then later on the fun starts.

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5/29/10 8:00:43 AM
 
Wraithone writes:

It does look entertaining, but I simply do not have the time for another activity. Many of the times I post here, I really should be working on some analysis or other. ^^  But best of luck to all of you who apply.

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

..Your modesty knows no bounds....

 

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

It's not an question of modesty. I can't very well reduce my rate because something sounds interesting to me. If my customers find out, they all expect a similar reduction.

Besides, self-promotion is what fosters new business. Unlike many people, I don't have the luxury of getting a paycheck just because I happen to "show up" between the hours of 9-5. I don't have the luxury of doing a good job -- I must to a great job or I don't get repeat business.

It my line of work, modesty doesn't make you successful, it makes you a loser.

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5/29/10 10:51:42 AM
 
just1opinion writes:

Superthrust, there were a number of grammatical errors in your two "paragraph" response above. I hope there is an option for you to "edit."

Personally, I'm far too sassy, argumentative, neurotic, inexperienced, controversial, and anal-retentive to write for MMORPG.com. They only allow me to hang around here for the sheer unpredictable entertainment that I afford them in "please ban this bitch" emails I inspire. I think that's probably my "job" here. The pay is shit, but it can be pretty rewarding. I think I'll stick with my present MMORPG.com "position" as Thorn in MikeB's Side. Someone has to do it.

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5/29/10 10:52:25 AM
 
pojung writes:

@ girlgeek: we all have our roles to fill. Hopefully the satisfaction of a job well done combats the pay issue for you.

@ MMORPG.com: if you guys are ever hiring for a troll scarecrow, I'm your man.

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5/29/10 11:08:38 AM
 
Sarayu writes:

@Negentropy: Success is very relative. I'm sure your idea of success would make my stomach turn, but that's just how it is. As for your modesty comment, modest people, from my personal experience, tend to be more well rounded, humble, and a caring type of person. I may be alone, but I'd rather read someone with that  type of personality than the self bolstered English snob sitting in Starbucks sipping a late and thinking their going to be my personal messiah in written form.

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5/29/10 11:26:19 AM
 
Agricola1 writes:

Well this is very interesting, I'd like to apply for the position and I'd like to submit a recent interview I did with Bill Roper as a sample of what you could expect from me click :)

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MMO_Doubter writes:
Originally posted by greed0104

Let's give Greed0104 his own corner to write about things, make it NSFW so he can be the dick he was born to be.

 

Best Idea ever or bestest idea ever?

What about me?

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5/29/10 12:27:49 PM
 
MMO_Doubter writes:
Originally posted by Agricola1

Well this is very interesting, I'd like to apply for the position and I'd like to submit a recent interview I did with Bill Roper as a sample of what you could expect from me click :)

Knowing your work - I'm laughing before I even click that link.

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Sarayu

@Negentropy: Success is very relative. I'm sure your idea of success would make my stomach turn, but that's just how it is. As for your modesty comment, modest people, from my personal experience, tend to be more well rounded, humble, and a caring type of person. I may be alone, but I'd rather read someone with that  type of personality than the self bolstered English snob sitting in Starbucks sipping a late and thinking their going to be my personal messiah in written form.

You don't understand creative people. Ask any writer, musician, or artist what their most successful work was, and they will tell you, "the work where I stopped caring what my audience thought and created solely for myself."

In fact, I recently heard an interview with one of the most successful chefs in the US and when asked how he knows his diners will like what he creates, he said, "I could care less what they think, I make the food to please myself." Yet, they are beating down his door to eat his food.

I think you confuse immodesty and self-confidence. You also have a very prejudicial view of people who don't fit into your definition of modesty. Not every prideful person is self-centered, arrogant, and unwilling to communicate in an appropriate way. Personally, I've found those who are humble and modest to be afraid to act, wrapped up in their own little fantasy world, and therefore even more self-absorbed than those you rail against. I wouldn't call that healthy.

Unfortunately, people who think like you do probably have grown up being force-fed biblical phrases like, "and the meek shall inherit the earth."

Sorry, but the only thing the meek will inherit is shit.

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 


Originally posted by negentropy


Originally posted by CujoSWAoA
I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.



I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.
5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.
However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 


 

Possessing the basic ability to formulate sentences in a coherent fashion does not automatically make you interesting to read.

Exactly, and it also doesn't make you a professional writer.

Most professional writers I've had the displeasure of working with - while technically proficient - are sterile and lacking in character (their writing that is, not them personally).

True, and like ball players, musicians, etc, there are good ones and bad ones. People misunderstand the word 'professional'. It has nothing to do with skill -- the word refers to your vocation. It always amazes me how many people are confused about it's meaning. For God's sake, even the IRS, who are three IQ points away from being required to wear a protective helmet, know this fact.

Gaming journalists on the other hand, due to the nature of their work, are not only allowed but are in fact expected to be somewhat...colorful in their approach to the English language.

Please stop referring to gaming writers as journalists. Journalism, by definition, obliges the journalist to report fact, not opinion. The articles here on MMORPG.com are so rife with opinion, they are practically oozing the stuff. However, in MMORPG'com's defense, the news items found here are more in line with what is known as journalism.

The biggest problem is the Internet. People are basically stupid and lazy, and consequently take any opinion they read online as fact. Wikipedia is a good example. A friend of mine, who teaches at a large university, returns papers to students constantly because they use Wikipedia entries as references. The difference between Wikipedia and an encyclopedia is that the latter is fact-checked BEFORE publication. Wikipedia's model is, "let any poor schmuck provide an entry and hope for the best."

You college grads out there remember what the word 'empirical' means, right?

Now, if you actually read my post instead of skimming over it and reacting to whatever key-words sent you into a tail-spin, you would have noticed that I did not ask Mike to hire professionals -- I asked him to hire people with 5-7 years of writing experience. So your assertion that the 'professionals' you have worked with are not good writers is either a smug jab at MY capabilities as a writer (which basically makes you a p**ck, since you don't know me), or is a reflection of your ability to read AND COMPREHEND. Care to tell tell us which one?

But thanks for confirming my postulate about people's acumen.

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5/29/10 12:52:59 PM
 
bronecar writes:

I wish I were an American

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5/29/10 1:12:16 PM
 
Vestas writes:

The biggest problem is the Internet. People are basically stupid and lazy, and consequently take any opinion they read online as fact. Wikipedia is a good example. A friend of mine, who teaches at a large university, returns papers to students constantly because they use Wikipedia entries as references. The difference between Wikipedia and an encyclopedia is that the latter is fact-checked BEFORE publication. Wikipedia's model is, "let any poor schmuck provide an entry and hope for the best."

Funny thing is studies have revealed that Wikipedia's accuracy rate is nearly identical to most major encyclopedia's found in College libraries.  Just because it got published in a hardcover book and put in some prestigious university does NOT make more right than any other source.  History books are rife with "common opinion" or "opinion of the day".  Despite claiming "fact checking".  Anything written is influenced by the writer period.

For the most radical example I can think of, take someone who firmly believes in creationism, ask them to write  a formal, fact filled analysis, of Darwin's writings on evolution.  It's not going to happen no matter how much integrity they have as a writer (vice versa is also true, have an evolutionist write a fact filled report on the Bible).  Human beings warp all they perceive into their own view.  "Journalists" are no exception.  Some are better than others and many try to present both views but this constant "Wikipedia is shit because it's public domain" is funny as hell.  Encyclopedia's are full of the same BS responses on answers etc.

The advantage to Wikipedia is that there is simply content there and information, that no encyclopedia would ever write about.  And often Wikipedia can be a great jumping off pointt o 3rd and 2nd sources (which in turn can lead you to 1st sources).  Granted anyone who writes with Wikipedia as their only source is a fool, but to no more so than anyone else who only uses one source as "Authoritative" especially when it's 3rd or 4th hand.

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maskedweasel writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 

 

Not all journalism is pure fact.  Many times its opinionated or slanted by view of the writer.  The news articles here are more straight forward.  They mostly revolve around an already written news piece or story.   Other articles, columns, or interviews seem to be much more involved.

 

As for you taking less money for writing for this site then your other "customers",  I would only say that life isn't always about money.  Writing for something you care about would be reason enough for me to apply for a job.  The perks of a job I'm interested in would outweigh the extra money I could bring in from a job I would be less happy with.  

 

To each their own though.  I suppose five to seven years experience, in a non-professional environment isn't too much to ask seeing as how anyone who's gone through high school would easily have five to seven years experience in writing.  That doesn't ensure that they are good writers though.   That would be the same for professional writers too.  It is absolutely possible for a less experienced writer to be more enjoyed , or show greater talent than a professional.   I have no doubt in my mind that MMORPG.com will choose the candidate that they feel would best fit the job.  

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bjgladitsch writes:

Here is my argument..if everyone asks for 5-7 yrs experience..how are any new writers whom just might be fantastic, going to get any experience if no one is willint to take a chance on them?  Good writers don't come magically with 5-7 years experience...that is earned through working for people wililng to take a chance on them.

Kudos to MMO for being willing to take a chance on a less experienced writer.  May you find that rare uncut gem in your quest.

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5/29/10 2:30:56 PM
 
Aemi writes:

Is this a work from home thing, or do you need to live near the office?

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maskedweasel writes:
Originally posted by Aemi

Is this a work from home thing, or do you need to live near the office?

Chances are you would submit articles to the editor either via an online portal or e-mail.  Its doubtful they would require you to come into the office.

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Vestas

The biggest problem is the Internet. People are basically stupid and lazy, and consequently take any opinion they read online as fact. Wikipedia is a good example. A friend of mine, who teaches at a large university, returns papers to students constantly because they use Wikipedia entries as references. The difference between Wikipedia and an encyclopedia is that the latter is fact-checked BEFORE publication. Wikipedia's model is, "let any poor schmuck provide an entry and hope for the best."

Funny thing is studies have revealed that Wikipedia's accuracy rate is nearly identical to most major encyclopedia's found in College libraries.  Just because it got published in a hardcover book and put in some prestigious university does NOT make more right than any other source.  History books are rife with "common opinion" or "opinion of the day".  Despite claiming "fact checking".  Anything written is influenced by the writer period.

For the most radical example I can think of, take someone who firmly believes in creationism, ask them to write  a formal, fact filled analysis, of Darwin's writings on evolution.  It's not going to happen no matter how much integrity they have as a writer (vice versa is also true, have an evolutionist write a fact filled report on the Bible).  Human beings warp all they perceive into their own view.  "Journalists" are no exception.  Some are better than others and many try to present both views but this constant "Wikipedia is shit because it's public domain" is funny as hell.  Encyclopedia's are full of the same BS responses on answers etc.

The advantage to Wikipedia is that there is simply content there and information, that no encyclopedia would ever write about.  And often Wikipedia can be a great jumping off pointt o 3rd and 2nd sources (which in turn can lead you to 1st sources).  Granted anyone who writes with Wikipedia as their only source is a fool, but to no more so than anyone else who only uses one source as "Authoritative" especially when it's 3rd or 4th hand.

...but this constant "Wikipedia is shit because it's public domain" is funny as hell...

 

I don't think anyone is saying that (at least I'm not). The main issue with Wikipedia is that quality control takes place "after the fact". Yes, even encyclopedias can be inaccurate, but the material is fact-checked by people widely considered experts in their fields. The incidence is much lower. Anyone with a remedial cognitive ability can see that. Those who can't are selling something.

With Wikipedia, the material can be wrong at any point in time -- at MULTIPLE points in time. And, yes, it can be "fixed", but there is no guarantee it stays fixed. Therein lies the problem. This poses a risk to people who tend to believe what they read without question. I'm sorry, but there are a lot of people who are just too lazy to think for themselves. As a society, we can sit back and say, "that's their problem." But IMHO, we should not contribute to misinforming the populous. We know what people are capable of when they have incorrect information in their hands. Can you say "Iraq War"?

I don't know about other countries, but here in the US, people are constantly up-in-arms about improving our educational system, sometimes to the point of holding teachers to unreasonably high standards. But we don't even raise an eyebrow at something like Wikipedia, which also educates our children? Something is seriously wrong about that.

In all the years I've been writing papers, articles, and books, I've only found four items in established tomes that have been turned out to be incorrect. I find at least two entries a week on Wikipedia that are wrong after further research. Yes, I use Wikipedia, but not as data source -- mostly as a jumping off point for further research.

The value of Wikipedia is in exposing a lot of people to information they may not normally encounter. That's all. But the maintainers have a responsibility to provide accurate information. I guess you could say my beef is less with the idea of online information sharing and more with the method used (wiki).

As for your assertion that "studies" have shown Wikpedia's accuracy rate is identical to other established sources. Links please. I don't believe that for a second.

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5/29/10 3:43:52 PM
 
hoopty writes:

I work for free...

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5/29/10 3:47:14 PM
 
Lickitung writes:

Wow.... all these replies...

MMORPG's attempt to put a job posting out there has degenerated, in public response, into a troll-fest peppered with personal arguements.

Stop freaking arguing about 5-7 years of prior experience.  Yes, it's an important thing to look for... but if you take a look at any paper's classifieds, the only time they bother asking this sort of thing is if they're looking for FULL TIME people.  This is a PART TIME position.  And if MMORPG doesn't want to do it, THEY are the ones hiring, not you.

Stop the arguements and continued stabs at personal credentials and 'proffesional' crap.  BOTH SIDES have valid points and BOTH SIDES are being jerks in the way they are responding.  Part of 'proffessionalism' is also not allowing people to get under your skin with criticisms.  As a 'proffessional', you should be USED to recieving critique, both colorful and constructive, and be able to handle it like an adult.  Instead, you go off on tagents about the difference between humble and self confidence, self centeredness and meekness, wikipedia and encyclopedia.  How's this for a comparison?   Self Confident and Humble: Knowing you have the skills, but acknowledging that perhaps others do as well and not throwing yours out there.  Not demeaning others to make yourself look better.  Self Centered and inconsiderate: Touting yourself as the end all, beat all guru of awesome above anyone else.  Arguing that no one else could possibly be correct and that you are worth far and above a current topic.  Not recognizing the truth within other's words AS WELL AS your own.

 

Seriously...  I could watch the same quality of conversation on a kindergarten playground.

 

Good luck on getting the best person for the job, Mike B.  This lot of people aren't gonna be 100% happy one way or the other.

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mrw0lf writes:
Originally posted by hoopty

I work for free...

I don't work, even for the people that pay me 

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eddieg50 writes:

  I cant write , i can barely read, i havent taken a bath in 3 weeks and my keyboard is full of food and sticky beer, I think i would be perfect for a staff writer on mmorpg, oh yes if one of the requirements of a staff writer is to have a staff infection  im your man

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5/29/10 4:44:33 PM
 
mrw0lf writes:
Originally posted by eddieg50

  I cant write , i can barely read, i havent taken a bath in 3 weeks and my keyboard is full of food and sticky beer, I think i would be perfect for a staff writer on mmorpg, oh yes if one of the requirements of a staff writer is to have a staff infection  im your man

If it wasn't for the grammar I think they'd snap you right up.

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5/29/10 4:50:17 PM
 
Cecropia writes:
Originally posted by bronecar

I wish I were an American

 Which part? South, Central or North America?

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JestorRodo writes:

If you Hired me would have have to cease My Rodo Reports?

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eyeswideopen writes:

I vote for JestorRodo.

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5/29/10 5:43:42 PM
 
MikeB writes:
Originally posted by Aemi


Is this a work from home thing, or do you need to live near the office?

 

Home.

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5/29/10 5:47:40 PM
 
grunty writes:
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by Aemi

Is this a work from home thing, or do you need to live near the office?

Chances are you would submit articles to the editor either via an online portal or e-mail.  Its doubtful they would require you to come into the office.

The office is in Hawaii.

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5/29/10 6:13:07 PM
 
Murphman writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

..Your modesty knows no bounds....

 

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

It's not an question of modesty. I can't very well reduce my rate because something sounds interesting to me. If my customers find out, they all expect a similar reduction.

Besides, self-promotion is what fosters new business. Unlike many people, I don't have the luxury of getting a paycheck just because I happen to "show up" between the hours of 9-5. I don't have the luxury of doing a good job -- I must to a great job or I don't get repeat business.

It my line of work, modesty doesn't make you successful, it makes you a loser.

Lol at the spelling mistake. Professional writer my hairy arse. Your ego is astounding.

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5/29/10 6:28:08 PM
 
negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Lickitung

Wow.... all these replies...

MMORPG's attempt to put a job posting out there has degenerated, in public response, into a troll-fest peppered with personal arguements.

Stop freaking arguing about 5-7 years of prior experience.  Yes, it's an important thing to look for... but if you take a look at any paper's classifieds, the only time they bother asking this sort of thing is if they're looking for FULL TIME people.  This is a PART TIME position.  And if MMORPG doesn't want to do it, THEY are the ones hiring, not you.

Stop the arguements and continued stabs at personal credentials and 'proffesional' crap.  BOTH SIDES have valid points and BOTH SIDES are being jerks in the way they are responding.  Part of 'proffessionalism' is also not allowing people to get under your skin with criticisms.  As a 'proffessional', you should be USED to recieving critique, both colorful and constructive, and be able to handle it like an adult.  Instead, you go off on tagents about the difference between humble and self confidence, self centeredness and meekness, wikipedia and encyclopedia.  How's this for a comparison?   Self Confident and Humble: Knowing you have the skills, but acknowledging that perhaps others do as well and not throwing yours out there.  Not demeaning others to make yourself look better.  Self Centered and inconsiderate: Touting yourself as the end all, beat all guru of awesome above anyone else.  Arguing that no one else could possibly be correct and that you are worth far and above a current topic.  Not recognizing the truth within other's words AS WELL AS your own.

 

Seriously...  I could watch the same quality of conversation on a kindergarten playground.

 

Good luck on getting the best person for the job, Mike B.  This lot of people aren't gonna be 100% happy one way or the other.

If you can't handle people discussing things in forums, don't visit forums.

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Murphman
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

..Your modesty knows no bounds....

 

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

It's not an question of modesty. I can't very well reduce my rate because something sounds interesting to me. If my customers find out, they all expect a similar reduction.

Besides, self-promotion is what fosters new business. Unlike many people, I don't have the luxury of getting a paycheck just because I happen to "show up" between the hours of 9-5. I don't have the luxury of doing a good job -- I must to a great job or I don't get repeat business.

It my line of work, modesty doesn't make you successful, it makes you a loser.

Lol at the spelling mistake. Professional writer my hairy arse. Your ego is astounding.

Yes, because all writers are perfect and never make any mistakes, even when they are typing on a netbook sitting in a coffee house. Your stupidity is astounding.

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5/29/10 6:40:09 PM
 
maskedweasel writes:
Originally posted by grunty
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by Aemi

Is this a work from home thing, or do you need to live near the office?

Chances are you would submit articles to the editor either via an online portal or e-mail.  Its doubtful they would require you to come into the office.

The office is in Hawaii.

Well then lets go to the office!

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5/29/10 6:56:20 PM
 
Korhindi writes:

It seems that some have mistaken ego for confidence.

 

A professional must have confidence in his abilities and his work.  That does sometimes include self promotion and very occassionaly defending one's work agressively.  Some folks may mistake such confidence and ardent support of one's work, and their steadfast belief in themselves, as ego, but there is a difference.

 

It is all about candor and tone.  Ego is self plugging and downgrading of others for its own sake.  The flaunting of credentials or the stomping on others' credentials and accomplishments is the most base forms of ego flexing.  Such actions is never considered professional though many "professionals" engage in such behavior, often at alarming regularity.

 

True professionals almost never have to brag, for they simply let their work do the bragging for them.

 

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Korhindi

True professionals almost never have to brag, for they simply let their work do the bragging for them.

 

Unless they are politicians.

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Korhindi writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by Korhindi

True professionals almost never have to brag, for they simply let their work do the bragging for them.

 

Unless they are politicians.

True.

 

But then again, that is why they are almost universally hated.  They brag all the time, but what do they really get done?

 

My sentence above doesn't apply to every politician, but I would say it is an accurate assessment for the vast majority of them.

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Vestas writes:
Originally posted by negentropy

As for your assertion that "studies" have shown Wikpedia's accuracy rate is identical to other established sources. Links please. I don't believe that for a second.

 

http://news.cnet.com/Study-Wikipedia-as-accurate-as-Britannica/2100-1038_3-5997332.html

There ya go, that's the easiest one to find and it leads into many constnat debates on Wikipedia's accuracy. A little searching will find both sides of the argument.  Generally in my opinion if something is hotly contested like this both sides have some truth to them. But long before Wikipedia we used to be educated in schools not to trust Encyclopedia's as they are often 3rd or 4th sources and so far removed from what they are writing that odds are, they are wrong.  Heck the good teachers even had us question our own textbooks, again 3rd/4th sources on information.

And if you were to ask me if I was to say, trust Wikipedia to present me multiple viewpoints on something recent in the past 20 years, over some off-the-shelf periodical like a magazine it all depeneds.  Wikipedia is /invaluable/ as a default place to go to get some basic information.

If however your premise is "never believe everything you read" this is true, regardless of source.  Something being written down does not make it gospel no matter the source.  People need to be taught to /think/ not just take what they read as the only truth.

All that said, I use Wikipedia almost daily to find basic factual information on dozens of things.  Would I trust Wikipedia to be %100 accurate on controversial issues? Like the JFK assasination? Or BP and it's latest blunders? No.  But show me a source that is authoritative on those subjects in the first place.

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eyeswideopen writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

..Your modesty knows no bounds....

 

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

It's not an question of modesty. I can't very well reduce my rate because something sounds interesting to me. If my customers find out, they all expect a similar reduction.

Besides, self-promotion is what fosters new business. Unlike many people, I don't have the luxury of getting a paycheck just because I happen to "show up" between the hours of 9-5. I don't have the luxury of doing a good job -- I must to a great job or I don't get repeat business.

It my line of work, modesty doesn't make you successful, it makes you a loser.

I'd be interested in reading some of your work. Perhaps you could give a few references to peruse?

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5/29/10 7:35:34 PM
 
GozerTC writes:

Hmm.. working on my application now.  My only problem is that my newest samples are over 800 words. 

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maskedweasel writes:
Originally posted by GozerTC

Hmm.. working on my application now.  My only problem is that my newest samples are over 800 words. 

They may not require you to shorten it, though in many instances sites require you to stick to a certain amount of words so you capture the reader without having them read three pages and lose interest.  If this is just an application process I doubt it would be that big of a deal, though it kind of sounds like MMORPG.com may take your article and run with it as your first article. (They would probably have it edited first)

 

I'm just guessing though.

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GozerTC writes:

Oh I know that's what they'll probably want on the job.  Just wondering if I should do something about my samples. :)

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Vestas
Originally posted by negentropy

As for your assertion that "studies" have shown Wikpedia's accuracy rate is identical to other established sources. Links please. I don't believe that for a second.

 

http://news.cnet.com/Study-Wikipedia-as-accurate-as-Britannica/2100-1038_3-5997332.html

There ya go, that's the easiest one to find and it leads into many constnat debates on Wikipedia's accuracy. A little searching will find both sides of the argument.  Generally in my opinion if something is hotly contested like this both sides have some truth to them. But long before Wikipedia we used to be educated in schools not to trust Encyclopedia's as they are often 3rd or 4th sources and so far removed from what they are writing that odds are, they are wrong.  Heck the good teachers even had us question our own textbooks, again 3rd/4th sources on information.

And if you were to ask me if I was to say, trust Wikipedia to present me multiple viewpoints on something recent in the past 20 years, over some off-the-shelf periodical like a magazine it all depeneds.  Wikipedia is /invaluable/ as a default place to go to get some basic information.

If however your premise is "never believe everything you read" this is true, regardless of source.  Something being written down does not make it gospel no matter the source.  People need to be taught to /think/ not just take what they read as the only truth.

All that said, I use Wikipedia almost daily to find basic factual information on dozens of things.  Would I trust Wikipedia to be %100 accurate on controversial issues? Like the JFK assasination? Or BP and it's latest blunders? No.  But show me a source that is authoritative on those subjects in the first place.

I've read it. You're kidding, right?

Bing/Microsoft, 3rd largest benefactor to Wikipedia through the Wikimedia Foundation is good buddies with Timo Hannay and that doesn't set off any red lights? Who's Timo Hannay, you ask? Well Timo Hannay is none other than the publishing director of nature.com. Yep, no ulterior motives behind that article.

I thought that was common knowledge at this point, but I guess not.

 

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
I'd be interested in reading some of your work. Perhaps you could give a few references to peruse?

Heh, right. That's all I need -- a group of snot-nosed brats from MMORPG.com causing me grief with my customers because they didn't like something I said in a post here. Nice try, though. I appreciate your creativity.

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5/29/10 9:25:30 PM
 
maskedweasel writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
I'd be interested in reading some of your work. Perhaps you could give a few references to peruse?

Heh, right. That's all I need -- a group of snot-nosed brats from MMORPG.com causing me grief with my customers because they didn't like something I said in a post here. Nice try, though. I appreciate your creativity.

This reply could've been seen from a mile away.  Personally I don't care what you do with your writing, but you could have phrased that quite a bit better then mud-slinging.    

 

Only on MMORPG.com do we go into a wild debate about a job posting.

 

At this time I haven't seen any posts indicating MMORPG.com is headhunting specific forum members, (be them professional , self-proclaimed professional or otherwise) so perhaps this thread should stay on the topic of the job posting specifically.

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5/29/10 9:37:09 PM
 
negentropy writes:
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
I'd be interested in reading some of your work. Perhaps you could give a few references to peruse?

Heh, right. That's all I need -- a group of snot-nosed brats from MMORPG.com causing me grief with my customers because they didn't like something I said in a post here. Nice try, though. I appreciate your creativity.

This reply could've been seen from a mile away.  

Of course it could. You have to be a special kind of stupid to give your real name on a forum. 

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5/29/10 9:43:00 PM
 
Blazz writes:

Nawwww... it's a shame the trolls have caused you to perhaps overthink something like linking your work. But besides that, a writer's work is liked by people subjectively. Some people will like your work, others will hate it, all based on some of their own personal experiences and opinions. Also, don't feed the trolls.

I'm interested in the position, but have no real experience in the field. I suppose I'll throw my hand in though, or I'll never know if my bluff will beat the guy with a three of a kind.

May I ask what you mean by weekend work, though? What place in the world do you mean? Will I have set hours during the week where I am expected to be online? Would Australian Time make me need to be 'working' at 11pm over here? I shall send all of these (and more!) in an email. Cheers.

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5/29/10 9:45:53 PM
 
brostyn writes:
Originally posted by Agricola1

Well this is very interesting, I'd like to apply for the position and I'd like to submit a recent interview I did with Bill Roper as a sample of what you could expect from me click :)

I, for one, would love to see Agricola1 as a writer. This guy is a creative genius!

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5/29/10 10:20:28 PM
 
dar_es_balat writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by Murphman
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

..Your modesty knows no bounds....

 

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

It's not an question of modesty. I can't very well reduce my rate because something sounds interesting to me. If my customers find out, they all expect a similar reduction.

Besides, self-promotion is what fosters new business. Unlike many people, I don't have the luxury of getting a paycheck just because I happen to "show up" between the hours of 9-5. I don't have the luxury of doing a good job -- I must to a great job or I don't get repeat business.

It my line of work, modesty doesn't make you successful, it makes you a loser.

Lol at the spelling mistake. Professional writer my hairy arse. Your ego is astounding.

Yes, because all writers are perfect and never make any mistakes, even when they are typing on a netbook sitting in a coffee house. Your stupidity is astounding.

 Whats astounding is that Mike is actively reading this thread, yet has allowed the bickering and personal attacks to continue.  This contradicts the new Terms of Service on MMORPG.com --- and calls moderation of posts here into question as posts seem to be selectively allowed to ignore rules.

Just wanted to point that out.   Oh and also youre right in your replies... but in being correct you are feeding the trolls on this board as they are primarily under achievers who ascribe to a welfare state, pity the weak mentality because to do so is to ensure their own survival!

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eyeswideopen writes:
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
I'd be interested in reading some of your work. Perhaps you could give a few references to peruse?

Heh, right. That's all I need -- a group of snot-nosed brats from MMORPG.com causing me grief with my customers because they didn't like something I said in a post here. Nice try, though. I appreciate your creativity.

Actually, I had a genuine desire to see some of your work as you seem so confident in its value I was sure I may find some of it to my liking. I would have refrained from mixing your projected persona into my critique of your writing, as I have met people who are even bigger assholes than you who have a particular gift with the written word.

By the way, at 37 years old, I hardly qualify as a "snot-nosed brat", as I'm sure many here don't. If you make such assumptions with your literary prose as you seemingly do here in an informal environment, then perhaps your writings would not be worthy of my time after all.

Good day, sir.

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
I'd be interested in reading some of your work. Perhaps you could give a few references to peruse?

Heh, right. That's all I need -- a group of snot-nosed brats from MMORPG.com causing me grief with my customers because they didn't like something I said in a post here. Nice try, though. I appreciate your creativity.

Actually, I had a genuine desire to see some of your work as you seem so confident in its value I was sure I may find some of it to my liking. I would have refrained from mixing your projected persona into my critique of your writing, as I have met people who are even bigger assholes than you who have a particular gift with the written word.

By the way, at 37 years old, I hardly qualify as a "snot-nosed brat", as I'm sure many here don't. If you make such assumptions with your literary prose as you seemingly do here in an informal environment, then perhaps your writings would not be worthy of my time after all.

Good day, sir.

What I find so funny about all of this is that NO WHERE did I ever say I was a great writer or boasted about being better than anyone else and I challenge you to prove me wrong. Please, show me the posts.

The only statement I made about my role as a writer was that MMORPG.com couldn't afford me. It's not a boast -- its a fact.

Mike, how about I send you a PM with my rates and you decide if you can afford me? We'll put this to rest right now. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it.

You (eyeswideopen) and several others who seem to have the ability to read my thoughts -- I hope you are not applying for the job. You obviously can't read, how the hell are you going to be able to write.

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negentropy writes:
Originally posted by dar_es_balat
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by Murphman
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by negentropy
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.

I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.

5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.

However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 

..Your modesty knows no bounds....

 

I am actually interested.  I used to write for one of those "online blogs" a few years back, but my job picked up and I couldn't handle a 40 hour work week along with writing 5 articles over various topics a week.   The pay was minimal but the experience was nice.  My schedule is a little more lax now. Chances are, the MMORPG.com staff knows me all too well from posting here and probably wouldn't hire me based on that alone.  Personally I wouldn't blame them.

It's not an question of modesty. I can't very well reduce my rate because something sounds interesting to me. If my customers find out, they all expect a similar reduction.

Besides, self-promotion is what fosters new business. Unlike many people, I don't have the luxury of getting a paycheck just because I happen to "show up" between the hours of 9-5. I don't have the luxury of doing a good job -- I must to a great job or I don't get repeat business.

It my line of work, modesty doesn't make you successful, it makes you a loser.

Lol at the spelling mistake. Professional writer my hairy arse. Your ego is astounding.

Yes, because all writers are perfect and never make any mistakes, even when they are typing on a netbook sitting in a coffee house. Your stupidity is astounding.

 Whats astounding is that Mike is actively reading this thread, yet has allowed the bickering and personal attacks to continue.  This contradicts the new Terms of Service on MMORPG.com --- and calls moderation of posts here into question as posts seem to be selectively allowed to ignore rules.

Just wanted to point that out.   Oh and also youre right in your replies... but in being correct you are feeding the trolls on this board as they are primarily under achievers who ascribe to a welfare state, pity the weak mentality because to do so is to ensure their own survival!

Maybe its a test. Looking at who has a tendency to be a rage-o-holic so he can throw their resumes in the trash. 

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MikeB writes:

Guys lets keep this civil and on topic. Cut it out with the insults and back-and-forth.

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5/29/10 11:17:28 PM
 
Vagrant_Zero writes:


Originally posted by negentropy


Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero
 



Originally posted by negentropy




Originally posted by CujoSWAoA
I doubht that someone who has 5 to 7 years of professional writing experience will be looking to join the MMORPG.com weekend warriors crew.




I have friends who are writers that have three or more "jobs" they work part-time.
5-7 years writing experience is what I would hire as a "junior" position. I've been a professional writer for 23 years. If I had time, I'd do it. It sounds like a lot of fun.
However, I highly doubt MMORPG.com could afford me. 



 
Possessing the basic ability to formulate sentences in a coherent fashion does not automatically make you interesting to read.
Exactly, and it also doesn't make you a professional writer.
Most professional writers I've had the displeasure of working with - while technically proficient - are sterile and lacking in character (their writing that is, not them personally).
True, and like ball players, musicians, etc, there are good ones and bad ones. People misunderstand the word 'professional'. It has nothing to do with skill -- the word refers to your vocation. It always amazes me how many people are confused about it's meaning. For God's sake, even the IRS, who are three IQ points away from being required to wear a protective helmet, know this fact.
Gaming journalists on the other hand, due to the nature of their work, are not only allowed but are in fact expected to be somewhat...colorful in their approach to the English language.
Please stop referring to gaming writers as journalists. Journalism, by definition, obliges the journalist to report fact, not opinion. The articles here on MMORPG.com are so rife with opinion, they are practically oozing the stuff. However, in MMORPG'com's defense, the news items found here are more in line with what is known as journalism.
The biggest problem is the Internet. People are basically stupid and lazy, and consequently take any opinion they read online as fact. Wikipedia is a good example. A friend of mine, who teaches at a large university, returns papers to students constantly because they use Wikipedia entries as references. The difference between Wikipedia and an encyclopedia is that the latter is fact-checked BEFORE publication. Wikipedia's model is, "let any poor schmuck provide an entry and hope for the best."
You college grads out there remember what the word 'empirical' means, right?
Now, if you actually read my post instead of skimming over it and reacting to whatever key-words sent you into a tail-spin, you would have noticed that I did not ask Mike to hire professionals -- I asked him to hire people with 5-7 years of writing experience. So your assertion that the 'professionals' you have worked with are not good writers is either a smug jab at MY capabilities as a writer (which basically makes you a p**ck, since you don't know me), or is a reflection of your ability to read AND COMPREHEND. Care to tell tell us which one?
But thanks for confirming my postulate about people's acumen.



I have to admit, that was pretty boring to read. Hell I didn't even read it all to be honest, skipped the parts where it seemed you got ranty and defensive and not because ranty and defensive writings tend to err on the boring (actually it's usually quite the opposite); but because you somehow managed to take the passionate artform of the flame and turn it into the online equivalent of a public service announcement. Must be your 23 years of experience in the field.

Which really just goes back to my original point of "professional" writing vs interesting writing. Which is odd I suppose, seeing as how - and even though I failed to actually read most of what you wrote I'm still fairly positive that - you did not intend to argue my point for me, and yet you solidified my position marvelously.

Still, in an effort to combat your multiple paragraphs of snooze, I propose that we initiate something fun for the whole family (and also to get off this entirely sullen and irreverent topic).

Story Time!

I'll go first.

Once upon a time there was a peaceful village by the name of HappyLove in the land of AlwaysWonderful, secluded in the Bay of NothingInterestingEverHappensHere.

Sephiroth burned it to the ground, making orphans of the children, and then killing the newly minted orphans. Then, and only then, in his final act of ultimate badassery, he jacked up the sound to My Chemical Romance on his newly priceline-negotiated (courtesy of the Shat'Man) 4G iPhone as he proceeded to cut himself.

The End. I call it, Emo with Sephy.

And I managed to keep it totally within the bounds of MMORPGs TOS.



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5/30/10 1:08:54 AM
 
Aemi writes:

I'm applying for this, and am writing a cover letter. What would the name of the employer be? Also thier Title? I assume Editor?

And the company addresss is?

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5/30/10 7:07:11 AM
 
eyeswideopen writes:
Originally posted by Aemi

I'm applying for this, and am writing a cover letter. What would the name of the employer be? Also thier Title? I assume Editor?

And the company addresss is?

It tells you right int he first post.

If you think you fit all the above, send over your resume and cover letter to editor@mmorpg.com and news@mmorpg.com with the subject line MMORPG.com News Reporter Application: (your name).  Applications without the above subject line will be discarded!

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5/30/10 11:36:08 AM
 
Aemi writes:
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
Originally posted by Aemi

I'm applying for this, and am writing a cover letter. What would the name of the employer be? Also thier Title? I assume Editor?

And the company addresss is?

It tells you right int he first post.

If you think you fit all the above, send over your resume and cover letter to editor@mmorpg.com and news@mmorpg.com with the subject line MMORPG.com News Reporter Application: (your name).  Applications without the above subject line will be discarded!

That isn't what I'm referring to. I know where to send it.

I'm trying to follow this, http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/career/guides/cover_ltr.shtml

So I do everything correctly.

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5/30/10 11:53:20 AM
 
Dreamorb writes:

Could be a very fun, thrilling and a great experience for me, but my grammar is too off sadly - even in my native language. Good luck to all who wishes to give it a try, if nothing else.

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5/30/10 12:09:24 PM
 
Ryukan writes:

I would love to be a writer for MMORPG.com even though I have next to no professional writing experience. Can't hurt to apply though...how do I email a urine sample to you guys for testing? :P

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5/30/10 12:52:18 PM
 
jakoblin writes:
since it does not list how much you get paid , I WOULD ASSUME YOU GET PAID $1 PER HOUR. who want to get paid that low ? huh ???
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5/30/10 2:26:39 PM
 
eyeswideopen writes:
Originally posted by Aemi
Originally posted by eyeswideopen
Originally posted by Aemi

I'm applying for this, and am writing a cover letter. What would the name of the employer be? Also thier Title? I assume Editor?

And the company addresss is?

It tells you right int he first post.

If you think you fit all the above, send over your resume and cover letter to editor@mmorpg.com and news@mmorpg.com with the subject line MMORPG.com News Reporter Application: (your name).  Applications without the above subject line will be discarded!

That isn't what I'm referring to. I know where to send it.

I'm trying to follow this, http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/career/guides/cover_ltr.shtml

So I do everything correctly.

Your employer would be:

Cyber Creations Inc. 

73-5563 Olowalu St. Suite #B203

Kailua-Kona, Hawaii 96740

 

And the editors name is Jon Wood.

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5/30/10 4:32:42 PM
 
mudroll writes:
Originally posted by jakoblin
since it does not list how much you get paid , I WOULD ASSUME YOU GET PAID $1 PER HOUR. who want to get paid that low ? huh ???
 

Does minimum wage not exist to you?

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5/30/10 8:30:14 PM
 
rlmccoy1987 writes:

Can I have a job writing a review of Mortal Online?  Many of their fans think I work for you guys, why not just make it official? 

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5/30/10 8:31:56 PM
 
mudroll writes:

Damn wanna apply but there are far more qualified people so hey give the job to them. Just for info though what would the samples be, a review of an MMORPG or? And what would be included in a feature article.

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5/30/10 8:33:41 PM
 
negentropy writes:
Originally posted by mudroll
Originally posted by jakoblin
since it does not list how much you get paid , I WOULD ASSUME YOU GET PAID $1 PER HOUR. who want to get paid that low ? huh ???
 

Does minimum wage not exist to you?

Minimum wage doesn't apply to freelance work, which is how this job is probably classified.

EDIT: Actually I just looked up Cyber Creations in my handy-dandy database I use to decide where to submit my work. It says the company has 1-4 employees, so yeah, I'll bet all the writers are freelance. However, the data seems to be from 2007, so it may have changed by now.

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5/30/10 9:31:29 PM
 
mudroll writes:
Originally posted by negentropy

Originally posted by mudroll
Originally posted by jakoblin
since it does not list how much you get paid , I WOULD ASSUME YOU GET PAID $1 PER HOUR. who want to get paid that low ? huh ???
 

Does minimum wage not exist to you?

Minimum wage doesn't apply to freelance work, which is how this job is probably classified.

EDIT: Actually I just looked up Cyber Creations in my handy-dandy database I use to decide where to submit my work. It says the company has 1-4 employees, so yeah, I'll bet all the writers are freelance. However, the data seems to be from 2007, so it may have changed by now.

 

True nough but then again this is probably based on commision and not hourly pay.

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5/30/10 11:00:07 PM
 
vatzcar writes:

I can't read. I can't write. I can't talk. Hey, hold a sec. I CAN talk!

Let's settle this. I can't read, I can't write but I can talk. Can I have the job now?

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5/31/10 3:25:08 AM
 
Darkcrystal writes:

to bad I'm not a very good typer or I would do this, I been gaming since teh 80's and I have played every MMO that is P2P and alot of free ones, I also beta test alot, as of right now i'm in 8 other beta's..

I also have the time sadly I can't type great..  I'm also going to school now in the gaming industry and going for graphic design...

MY weekends are free also. Oh well I had most of what you  where looking for besides, typing skills, one of my low points .. good luck. on finding someone.

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5/31/10 11:06:44 AM
 
eyeswideopen writes:
Originally posted by Darkcrystal

to bad I'm not a very good typer or I would do this, I been gaming since teh 80's and I have played every MMO that is P2P and alot of free ones, I also beta test alot, as of right now i'm in 8 other beta's..

I also have the time sadly I can't type great..  I'm also going to school now in the gaming industry and going for graphic design...

MY weekends are free also. Oh well I had most of what you  where looking for besides, typing skills, one of my low points .. good luck. on finding someone.

If the only drawback is your typing, use a spellchecker program. You have plenty of time to edit your articles before you send them in.

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5/31/10 11:41:07 AM
 
negentropy writes:
Originally posted by Darkcrystal

to bad I'm not a very good typer or I would do this, I been gaming since teh 80's and I have played every MMO that is P2P and alot of free ones, I also beta test alot, as of right now i'm in 8 other beta's..

I also have the time sadly I can't type great..  I'm also going to school now in the gaming industry and going for graphic design...

MY weekends are free also. Oh well I had most of what you  where looking for besides, typing skills, one of my low points .. good luck. on finding someone.

Typing skills were essential for a writer back when we still used typewriters -- mainly because it was much harder to make corrections. These days, you have dozens of tools to help you overcome the mechanical aspect of getting your words down in tangible form.

One of my colleagues still writes on paper and hires a typist to get his work into computer files. He says the act of physically writing on paper makes him think before he writes. It works for him.

No one needs to know how you go from conception to finished product -- it's basically none of their business. The only thing that matters is the finished work.

If typing is your only concern, I wouldn't let that hold you back. Find a way to work around the issue.

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5/31/10 11:58:19 AM
 
jakoblin writes:

I know for a fact it is $1 per hour.   

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