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General : GDC Update

Posted Mar 27, 2009 by Jon Wood

The MMORPG.com team is at the Game Developer's Conference. In this article, Managing Editor Jon Wood updates our community on some of the things that they have seen or learned while at the show including looks at Aion, Fallen Earth, Earthrise and more!

Well, it’s been an interesting couple of days here at the 2009 Game Developer’s Conference. I’m excited to report that it’s been a busy show and that we’ve seen a pretty wide variety of games and talked to a lot of interesting people. Over the next week or so (starting when we get home on Monday), we’ll be releasing a ton of video interviews covering a wide range of games. I thought though, with the bulk of our interviews behind us, that I would write this article as an overview of some of the important or interesting things that we’ve learned or seen while we’ve been here:

Fallen Earth

This morning, we had a chance to meet with the team from Icarus Studios to talk about their upcoming post-apocalyptic MMO, Fallen Earth. What I expected to just be an interview actually turned out to be a pretty extensive demo of their game.

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Tiurinn writes:

Can't wait to see the Earthrise vid and the day when the embargo is lifted for TSW!

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3/27/09 12:06:37 PM
 
DevilXaphan writes:

Wonders if HiRez studios was there too. If so what did you learn more about their mmo Global Agenda?

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3/27/09 2:53:35 PM
 
danmoses112 writes:

I can't beleive you guys didn't cover Love...  It's the one game I'm looking forward to.

 

http://www.quelsolaar.com/

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3/27/09 4:27:10 PM
 
WisebutCruel writes:
Originally posted by danmoses112

I can't beleive you guys didn't cover Love...  It's the one game I'm looking forward to.

 

http://www.quelsolaar.com/


 

An mmo made by one guy, that looks like a 5 year olds' watercolor drawing, would be laughed out of GDC. And since mmorpg.com was at GDC and not in that guys basement, that explains one reason they didn't cover it, now don't it?

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3/27/09 6:04:05 PM
 
Harabeck writes:

Hurry up and get that Earthrise vid out!

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3/27/09 6:22:56 PM
 
WisebutCruel writes:

Also, when Funcon removes the "embargo" on the Secret World, do your members here a favor and implement your own "embargo" on it.

After two proven failures, why should they get publicity for the third failure-in-waiting?

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3/27/09 6:27:07 PM
 
Sabbicat writes:

Embargo? Can this be expanded on? The implication is that MMORPG.com is refusing to talk about this game or is it a denial of information on the studio's part?

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3/27/09 6:56:50 PM
 
WisebutCruel writes:
Originally posted by Sabbicat

Embargo? Can this be expanded on? The implication is that MMORPG.com is refusing to talk about this game or is it a denial of information on the studio's part?


 

Basically Funcon said "You can't show this to anyone until we say so".

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3/27/09 7:03:40 PM
 
Stradden writes:
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by Sabbicat

Embargo? Can this be expanded on? The implication is that MMORPG.com is refusing to talk about this game or is it a denial of information on the studio's part?

Basically Funcon said "You can't show this to anyone until we say so".

*slaps forehead* I suppose that';s one way of looking at it. I'd just like to point out that this is a VERY common thing to do with any kind of media outlet. We are given information ahead of time so that we can work on our stories or what-have-you, and given a date on which it's cool to publish.

Normally, I don't mention it, but because they put out a press release before the show stating that they were talking about the game, I thought it might be nice to let people know we got some info and would release it later.

So, it's more about... We'll give you this info now for your conveneince, but would like you to hold onto it until X date" than what you said.

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3/27/09 7:09:40 PM
 
WisebutCruel writes:
Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by Sabbicat

Embargo? Can this be expanded on? The implication is that MMORPG.com is refusing to talk about this game or is it a denial of information on the studio's part?

Basically Funcon said "You can't show this to anyone until we say so".

*slaps forehead* I suppose that';s one way of looking at it. I'd just like to point out that this is a VERY common thing to do with any kind of media outlet. We are given information ahead of time so that we can work on our stories or what-have-you, and given a date on which it's cool to publish.

Normally, I don't mention it, but because they put out a press release before the show stating that they were talking about the game, I thought it might be nice to let people know we got some info and would release it later.

So, it's more about... We'll give you this info now for your conveneince, but would like you to hold onto it until X date" than what you said.


 

So basically, we both said the same thing, I just wasn't as nice about it.

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3/27/09 7:13:13 PM
 
AmazingAvery writes:

I heard we might have to wait till end of the first week in April for more TSW news. Can't wait when it comes. Jon gets all the good stuff.

Thanks for the report so far was a good read and appreciated.

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3/27/09 8:47:45 PM
 
theanimedude writes:

Thanks for the update.

Can't wait for more news on Earthrise and The Secret World.

And as much as people like to hate on Funcom, yes, Conan sucks, but Anarchy Online is STILL, this many years later, the ONLY good Sci-Fi MMO to date. No it's not amazing, but point me in the direction of a better Sci-fi MMO in that kind of setting, and i'll be sure to try it out.

With the EVE info, that was nice, but as you said, nothing new. The newest expansion added a bunch of stuff, that I will never get to do, because it's way out of my league, but the game is coming along nicely.

Thanks for all your hard work guys, I know most of us appreciate it. If not even a little bit jealous.

Hope the rest of your trip is good.

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3/28/09 1:08:08 AM
 
Senadina writes:

Well I can't wait to play Fallen Earth. The graphics are not too impressive right now but the gameplay seems awesome. Crafted economy, no classes, skill based, and I love the faction system. Not to mention fps targetting combined with rpg numbers. Looks like a great role-playing game, which is sorely missing in current MMO's. And loving the post-apocalyptic setting too.

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3/28/09 1:53:06 AM
 
Valentina writes:
Originally posted by theanimedude

Thanks for the update.

Can't wait for more news on Earthrise and The Secret World.

And as much as people like to hate on Funcom, yes, Conan sucks, but Anarchy Online is STILL, this many years later, the ONLY good Sci-Fi MMO to date. No it's not amazing, but point me in the direction of a better Sci-fi MMO in that kind of setting, and i'll be sure to try it out.

With the EVE info, that was nice, but as you said, nothing new. The newest expansion added a bunch of stuff, that I will never get to do, because it's way out of my league, but the game is coming along nicely.

Thanks for all your hard work guys, I know most of us appreciate it. If not even a little bit jealous.

Hope the rest of your trip is good.

 

I agree with you. Plus. Who's to say TSW will positively end up the same way as AoC? Some people are *way* too pessimistic

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3/28/09 1:53:35 AM
 
rhinok writes:
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by danmoses112

I can't beleive you guys didn't cover Love...  It's the one game I'm looking forward to.

 

http://www.quelsolaar.com/


 

An mmo made by one guy, that looks like a 5 year olds' watercolor drawing, would be laughed out of GDC. And since mmorpg.com was at GDC and not in that guys basement, that explains one reason they didn't cover it, now don't it?

Actually, Eskil Steenberg was a speaker at GDC.  There are a lot of people interested in what he's doing, which is pretty innovative.  Here's a post about him on massively:  linky...

~Ripper

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3/28/09 2:10:45 AM
 
WisebutCruel writes:
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by danmoses112

I can't beleive you guys didn't cover Love...  It's the one game I'm looking forward to.

 

http://www.quelsolaar.com/


 

An mmo made by one guy, that looks like a 5 year olds' watercolor drawing, would be laughed out of GDC. And since mmorpg.com was at GDC and not in that guys basement, that explains one reason they didn't cover it, now don't it?

Actually, Eskil Steenberg was a speaker at GDC.  There are a lot of people interested in what he's doing, which is pretty innovative.  Here's a post about him on massively:  linky...

~Ripper


 

Well, I'll be damned.

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3/28/09 3:15:49 AM
 
WisebutCruel writes:
Originally posted by theanimedude

And as much as people like to hate on Funcom, yes, Conan sucks, but Anarchy Online is STILL, this many years later, the ONLY good Sci-Fi MMO to date. No it's not amazing, but point me in the direction of a better Sci-fi MMO in that kind of setting, and i'll be sure to try it out.

 


 

I like AO.

However, the opinion it's the best sci-fi game is due to there being few sci-fi mmos, not the quality of AO.

And it took 7 years for it to get where it is now.

And the fact it barely manages to hold onto 20k subscribers ( if even that many ), both paid and froob, goes along with what I said: 2 failures.

Funny thing is, they both failed the exact same way with the exact same flaws. Funcon had the guide ( AO ) to show them how to not fuck up AoC. Instead of learning from the mistakes, they repeated every damn one of them.

And now they have Craig trying to repair the damage, the same as they needed Craig to repair AO. Guess he has 6 years left to fix it, judging by their knack for repeating AO history with AoC.

So tell me how TSW is going to be any different.

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3/28/09 3:24:39 AM
 
Wizardry writes:

I cannot for the life of me remeber what site ,but a site some where already did some decent info on TSW.I remeber this much it was going to be a totally different game than AOC,i think iot was more along the apocalyptic lines and did not sound like something i wanted to play.If my memory serves me right it was going to be sort of like a solo game ,in a small way like GW.I was not interested in the game so i kind of forgot most of the article.

As far as Fallen Earth goes,it again did not appeal to me.It sounded VERY linear.Like a console game that forced you through each quest to move along in the game.I prefer wide open content than linear.Nothing else in the game appealed to me either,i don't see anything ground breaking in there.

Earthrise still seems interesting enough to keep an eye on.

Umm Mabinogi? sorry those very weak graphic games turn me off.We usually see a million of them advertised on this site and every other site as well.

The big guy AION?? the looks/graphics don't fool me the way it fools others.We are so used to looking at the realistic colors like green leaves and blue/clear water that soon as they see the ASIAN type looks of unrealistic pink grass/leaves and all sorts of wild colors for water,people mistake it for looking great.Over there they are  famous for using the pinks/yellows anything real bright,to me it is just colors,it does not make graphics,and using unrealistic colors that do NOT fit the model,makes it look dumb,that is my opinion anyhow.Does AION look decent even with the phony colors ?sure it does,i can see some decent effort in there,but to me the graphics would not win out,that game needs some content beyond the normal Asian type games i have played.BIG mistakes?everyone able to fly will make a mockery of the design and will remind me of walking into Horizons and seeing nothing but players playing dragons.Will this game have any content outside of drab PVP?i am not counting on it.

More so i am interested to know what AION will bring to the table ,that makes people want to play it?what have they created ?anything new?i highly doubt it,it was obvious to me that they are banking on the flying to be what woos players lol,not in my house.I just can't see me saying"WHOA look at that i get to fly" i just got to play that game...bah i say.What does AION offer that we havnt already done?I am not going to play a game just because it has a different name or title or i can fly.AION may turn out to be good,like i said i am not expecting it.

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3/28/09 3:33:42 AM
 
Psatiyah writes:

 The Earthrise vid is on youtube

 

Was pretty lame imho... just some moron jumping around with some mechanic spider following him

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3/28/09 6:09:55 AM
 
Stradden writes:
Originally posted by Psatiyah

 The Earthrise vid is on youtube

 

Was pretty lame imho... just some moron jumping around with some mechanic spider following him

 

Mechanical spider... Uh, yeah, not actually got anything to do with what I saw on Earthrise, but ok.

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3/28/09 7:18:35 PM
 
WisebutCruel writes:
Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by Psatiyah

 The Earthrise vid is on youtube

 

Was pretty lame imho... just some moron jumping around with some mechanic spider following him

 

Mechanical spider... Uh, yeah, not actually got anything to do with what I saw on Earthrise, but ok.


 

Edit:

Go to the 1 minute mark and you'll see what he's talking about with the "spider".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uC0fhEa2Tg

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3/28/09 7:29:13 PM
 
DarkPony writes:

No Mortal Online folks representing? :<

Nice write up though. Thanks Jon.

 

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3/28/09 7:36:31 PM
 
hidden1 writes:
Originally posted by WisebutCruel
Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by Psatiyah

 The Earthrise vid is on youtube

 

Was pretty lame imho... just some moron jumping around with some mechanic spider following him

 

Mechanical spider... Uh, yeah, not actually got anything to do with what I saw on Earthrise, but ok.


 

With the shininess and sharp corners/joints, the spiders do look sort of mechanical.

if this is from Earthrise, I remember reading something about the use of Nanites causing things to mutate around the world... could explain the metalic/mechanical look of the spiders.
 

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3/28/09 7:41:08 PM
 
Joker2240 writes:

 Shallow.. I think they are talking about the mechnoid in the trailer... It was a four legged crawler, that did look like a spider. I think it looks cool and showed the potential. In no way should this be considered a repersentation of Earthrise, it is a teaser and that what it should be judged by. Finally got the game in motion instead of screenshots. Hopefully the next video will be that of combat, also of the ui and skill usage. 

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3/28/09 7:45:11 PM
 
WisebutCruel writes:
Originally posted by Joker2240

 Shallow.. I think they are talking about the mechnoid in the trailer... It was a four legged crawler, that did look like a spider. I think it looks cool and showed the potential. In no way should this be considered a repersentation of Earthrise, it is a teaser and that what it should be judged by. Finally got the game in motion instead of screenshots. Hopefully the next video will be that of combat, also of the ui and skill usage. 

Yes, I realized that after watchng the video and edited my post with a youtube link to it.
 

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3/28/09 7:49:40 PM
 
Flummoxed writes:
Originally posted by rhinok 

Actually, Eskil Steenberg was a speaker at GDC.  There are a lot of people interested in what he's doing, which is pretty innovative.  Here's a post about him on massively:  linky...

~Ripper


 

Yes ! -

In Love the story is not something that is "Pre-scripted" but something that is organically created while you play. ...  The game is based on a powerful procedural engine that creates a dynamic world that can be changed over time by players, characters, and the passing of time.  

This is something i've been interested in for a looooong time - "emergent" storylines and content, just like in a living world.  I'll definitely be watching the progress on LOVE.

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3/28/09 7:54:39 PM
 
Raam writes:

ARGH! Where's the news about World of Darkness.... gimmi gimmi gimmi...

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3/29/09 2:38:42 AM
 
braingame007 writes:

he Secret World

Sorry folks, I can’t talk about the info on this game just yet, it’s been embargoed . Just thought I’d whet your appetites a little bit and let you know that as soon as we’re able, we’ll tell you everything we know.

Not too sure about this game But I hope we get some information on Rapture in the near Future, or some people know it as the un-named SE nextgen mmo. There was an information leak saying that SE is supposed to give information about this new MMO at this upcoming E3, ( I hate how SE is always tightlipped about all their new projects, they do not give you the slightest information until not too long before release.

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3/30/09 5:58:26 AM
 
Cynthe writes:

I'm pretty pumped about finding more about The Secret World, I'm hoping it's more up my alley. As gorgeous as Conan is, it's missing several features I'd like, PvP isn't a feature to me :(

But anyway, this was a good year for GDC lots of interesting things. Speaking of Indy odd games, there's Twin Skies that just caught my eye. Seems like a cross between Free Realms and Mabinogi, I think that's going to be very interesting it should even launch this summer as free to download, don't expect huge amounts of content right away though as their plan goes against waiting forever to release a 'complete' game. The devs are the people behind Neopets expect extreme cuteness, proceed with caution. :D

Twin Skies Site

 

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3/30/09 6:56:01 PM
 
DarkWolfy writes:


Originally posted by Wizardry
I cannot for the life of me remeber what site ,but a site some where already did some decent info on TSW.I remeber this much it was going to be a totally different game than AOC,i think iot was more along the apocalyptic lines and did not sound like something i wanted to play.If my memory serves me right it was going to be sort of like a solo game ,in a small way like GW.I was not interested in the game so i kind of forgot most of the article.

Considering I've been checking out The Secret World since summer 2007, I can assure you you are not talking about The Secret World. No information whatsover has come up about The Secret World except the settings a bit (three cities: New York, Shanguai and London), possibilities to travel to other realms and time travel, plus the 2012 apocalyptic mayan calendar talking about the end of an era, dark forces, occult societies, lots of lovecraftian elements, etc. Very few informations have come out since may 2007 and especially nothing on how the game is built. We will know more on april 7th 2009 that is sure and I'm really looking forward to it.

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