ooooh.. that is so tempting. 

*grumbles*

Box + sub + store items = GREED

Box + Sub + Store items = good profit.  Calling it greed just shows your jealousy for not coming up with the idea.

Originally posted by Ausare

Box + Sub + Store items = good profit.  Calling it greed just shows your jealousy for not coming up with the idea.

Whatever mate, no hard feeling and enjoy your great community, your grind, your pandas and your trade channel!

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

Box + sub + store items = GREED

Haha get it for dirt cheap before December 19th, so just before TOR's release then, yes Blizzard?

From what i see it doesn't include EU so screw you Blizzard. This was your last chance before GW2 and TSW (don't care about TOR).

It appears in EU everything is 30% off

Originally posted by eayes

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

Box + sub + store items = GREED

 

I agree, when I go shopping I only go to the stores where everything is free, how dare a company charge for stuff!

Yeah, it's totally what I wrote, I want the game for free. The "+" could have helped your reading there.

It's thanks to people like you that companies making already insane profits could add payable items in mmo's that were previously included in your box and subscription. 

My only real wow experience was playing the f2p trial up to level 20.

So seeing this starter pack for 5$ including 30 days was actually tempting.

So I went to the European Blizzard Store to check:

We have to pay 10€ for the battle chest (13.50$) and for Lich King and Cataclysm 25€ (34$).

5$ > 13.50$

10$ > 34$

Can someone tell me why we Europeans have to pay 3 times as much?

Most likely different distributors and business managers in Europe.  Might be different costs (taxes, rights for usage, EU fees, etc.).  Costs of items in different countries are usually due to local law and the company is not going to pick up the bill for them.

Ah no nothing about laws. During discount sales here you get old classics like Bioshock for the same prices as the daily deals on Steam.

I just meant to say that Blizzard is still greedy and the minor discounts Blizzard Eu offers us is a joke compared to the US discounts.

I'm used to companies charging us in the 1$ = 1€ manner but this "offer" from blizz is hilarious.

Shrug...as far as the greedy comments...if you have a job why don't you go into work and demand to be paid less...otherwise you are just greedy trying to get everything you can get.  Companies price by what something will sell that still covers costs and makes a profit.  Just because someone prices something more than you think it is worth is not greed...it can be stupid if no one buys it at that price.  As long as people will buy it though it is called being business savy.  Something the youth of today does not seem to understand with their desire to have everything given to them for free or their belief that businesses are here to serve them. 

I don't get the greed whines either.  A good deal if you want to play Wow.  

Like I have said before, SWTOR will put a big dent in Wow initially until everyone finds out there is very little end game content in SWTOR at the present time.

Enjoy purchasing all of this only to be later hacked and have to use their awful customer service which will include you printing a form and mailing it to them with identifying documents. Yeah, I really want to send personal documents to a company that can't keep my information safe in the first place.

I don't have a virus or a trojan, my password is 16 characters long, hacked twice. Hackers have and continue to use packet sniffers on the client. The only way around that? You guessed it, pay them more money for an authenticator that should be provided as a free service given their history of hacks.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I don't get the greed whines either.  A good deal if you want to play Wow.  

Like I have said before, SWTOR will put a big dent in Wow initially until everyone finds out there is very little end game content in SWTOR at the present time.

 

by this logic their subscription numbers should be stable if not growing rather than in sharp decline. It is still a huge game, and a good game, but I think the general consensus is that people are over it and ready for something new. Even if that something new is just a slight improvement.

A ploy for pocket-change before TOR comes out.  Not a bad move, but necessary on their part. . .they know their bleed is going to continue.

I bet they sell quite a few bundles of these for Christmas presents. For parents with kids that have never played the game, it is in fact, a very good deal. As for those of us willing to pay a sub fee, I guess our secret is out, we are the 1%  o_o

Funny how the fanboys jump in and say I'm whining about blizz offering me a discount.

Ok ok you are right. I have to pay 3 times as much as Americans and that's totally fair and a reasonable offer.

What's funny is that the reduced pricing and the launch of TOR will most likely do wonders for their game community with the modest influx of new and probably older players coupled with the diehard fans.

Won't help what's going to happen to established guilds once TOR launches though.

Originally posted by Dakeru

Can someone tell me why we Europeans have to pay 3 times as much?

I would guess the exchange rate is to blame.

No as said thats not only it. They plain charge more.

Battle Chest 5$ in the USA > 10€ in Europe.

10$ for Lich King and Cataclysm > 24€ in Europe.

The greed comments in here are so naive.

Companies (yes, even game development studios) are in the business of making money.

End. Of. Story.

***

On topic, these are great deals across the board for anyone interested in the game still.

I wouldn't play WOW if it was FREE. Not bashing just not my cup of tea.

Originally posted by Dakeru

Funny how the fanboys jump in and say I'm whining about blizz offering me a discount.

Ok ok you are right. I have to pay 3 times as much as Americans and that's totally fair and a reasonable offer.

You freely admit you know nothing about the business laws in your country, and yet still cry unfairness.

Maybe you should take a break from mmorpg.com and go learn something. You'll probably find your answer.

Originally posted by 8BitAvatar

Originally posted by Dakeru

Funny how the fanboys jump in and say I'm whining about blizz offering me a discount.

Ok ok you are right. I have to pay 3 times as much as Americans and that's totally fair and a reasonable offer.

You freely admit you know nothing about the business laws in your country, and yet still cry unfairness.

Maybe you should take a break from mmorpg.com and go learn something. You'll probably find your answer.

Ah sorry. Can you point out where I said I have no ideas about the laws in my country?

Why can't a single topic about WOW end up nicelyin a mature manner? it is a topic about off on sales... if you like it buy or don't. 

This is why we can never have good things. ;(

Is mmorpg.com owned by Blizzard or something?  Seems like they get on their knees and praise WoW almost once a week.

Anyways, not really good "deals" at all.   Not trying to troll, but WoW is one of the worst mmos I've ever played.   It's hard to imagine anyone over 14 being into it.  

Originally posted by Dakeru

Ah no nothing about laws. During discount sales here you get old classics like Bioshock for the same prices as the daily deals on Steam.

I just meant to say that Blizzard is still greedy and the minor discounts Blizzard Eu offers us is a joke compared to the US discounts.

 

I'm used to companies charging us in the 1$ = 1€ manner but this "offer" from blizz is hilarious.

There you go.

Originally posted by Omni1rbb

Is mmorpg.com owned by Blizzard or something?  Seems like they get on their knees and praise WoW almost once a week.

 

Anyways, not really good "deals" at all.   Not trying to troll, but WoW is one of the worst mmos I've ever played.   It's hard to imagine anyone over 14 being into it.  

Not anymore. EA/BW bought them  out.

Originally posted by onthestick

Why can't a single topic about WOW end up nicelyin a mature manner? it is a topic about off on sales... if you like it buy or don't. 

This is why we can never have good things. ;(

Kung-fu pandas, that's why.

Originally posted by 8BitAvatar

Originally posted by Dakeru

Ah no nothing about laws. During discount sales here you get old classics like Bioshock for the same prices as the daily deals on Steam.

I just meant to say that Blizzard is still greedy and the minor discounts Blizzard Eu offers us is a joke compared to the US discounts.

 

I'm used to companies charging us in the 1$ = 1€ manner but this "offer" from blizz is hilarious.

There you go.

{mod edit}  That was clearly the answer to the suggestion before and meant "This has nothing to do with laws on discount limits etc."

{mod edit} 14$ for the starter kit and 34$ for addons that are outdated as fuck. Yes we aren't getting ripped off.

Welcome to the free market Dakeru.

If you feel like you're being ripped off on a product that's outdated, you're free to take your $$$ elsewhere.

I don't know what else to tell you.

Hilarius that 1: they are doing this before SWTOR is released, 2: that this is an obvious attempt at getting the revenue they lost when the allowed Ghostcrawler the screw up the game royally, and 3: that all they had to do to get those subs back was innovate and fix the bugs already present. My hunter pet still has to stay in a tiny zone to hit enemies and hunters STILL have that zone in which they can't fire, hmmmm maybe if they took ALL those millions of dollars and spent it on something other then chuck norris commercials and fix the game they might get those players back.

Originally posted by Ceridith

Originally posted by onthestick

Why can't a single topic about WOW end up nicelyin a mature manner? it is a topic about off on sales... if you like it buy or don't. 

This is why we can never have good things. ;(

Kung-fu pandas, that's why.

 

not to mention World of Pokemon, that's almost as bad as the LOTRO "expansion" RoI

this shows the downfall people

but stil, $5 for the Battle chest... and $30 for the 2 expansion

wow.. so tempting.......

Jesus christ..

A good deal would be all expansions for $10-15. It is typically what happens when a game is old and losing subs. Anyone interested in those expansions content has already bought and "beat" said content. These deals are meant to entice players who left long ago or attract the 10 people who havent tried wow..

Blizz is in agony )))) They know WoW is going down and want to milk players as much as they can before the fact WoW is no longer the best spreads to masses .

oh my its just too good to see wow  falling  lol  but  tbh  wow still have  a few years a head

Originally posted by black_isle

From what i see it doesn't include EU so screw you Blizzard. This was your last chance before GW2 and TSW (don't care about TOR).

 

 

Indeed, 'tis most frustrating.  There are a couple of offers on the EU website, but none as good as on the US, and some which are on US aren't on EU site at all. 

I was contemplating buying the celestial steed mount when I saw it had been reduced to $10 on the US website, but when I checked the EU site, the mount is still priced at £17.  $10 = £6.42, so the European price is almost 3 times as much!

Looks like someone is trying to inflate his "subscribernumbers" with some dumping prices shortly before the end of this quarter after all the negative backslash from the latest drops in both playernumbers and revenues.

15$ for the game minus Cata is cheaper than many age old competing MMORPGs are priced.

5$ for the whole battlechest is like offering some free enty drug for the new anual generation of kids.

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Looks like someone is trying to inflate his "subscribernumbers" with some dumping prices shortly before the end of this quarter after all the negative backslash from the latest drops in both playernumbers and revenues.

15$ for the game minus Cata is cheaper than many age old competing MMORPGs are priced.

5$ for the whole battlechest is like offering some free enty drug for the new anual generation of kids.

It ends in a week, so it will be interesting to see how many subs they get from it.  Reminds me of seeing "get rift free" adds or going on amazon and buying aion for 7$

lol, Blizzard, you fail so hard.

~$50 for 1/3 of a game (SC2 was split at the last minute into 3 titles)

~$50 for World of Pokemon and Kung Fu Panda: The MMO

~$180 for Diablo 3, because people thought it was a bargin to spend 14.95/mo with a 1yr Contract to get a ~$50 game (Diablo 3) [see WoW Annual Pass]

~$10 on a tradeable cub (pet) knowing people would try and buy a bunch to sell on the AH for quick gold; and ultimately failing [I've seen the same 7 cubs up for sale by 3 individuals (~5.5k gold each) for the past 2 weeks]

Now you need "sales" and "deals" to sucker people into buying MORE of your trinkets, L - O - L.

Originally posted by huskie77

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I don't get the greed whines either.  A good deal if you want to play Wow.  

Like I have said before, SWTOR will put a big dent in Wow initially until everyone finds out there is very little end game content in SWTOR at the present time.

 

It has more end game content than wow had on release. People seem to forget that.  The first patch will be more end game content , blizzard took a year to bring BWL in. Some people have rather selective memories.

 

Originally posted by Gid78

Originally posted by huskie77

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I don't get the greed whines either.  A good deal if you want to play Wow.  

Like I have said before, SWTOR will put a big dent in Wow initially until everyone finds out there is very little end game content in SWTOR at the present time.

 

It has more end game content than wow had on release. People seem to forget that.  The first patch will be more end game content , blizzard took a year to bring BWL in. Some people have rather selective memories.

 

 Take into account that the standards in the genre weren't that high back then and that nowhere near as much people played either. 

These days its all changed, the market is flooded with games and to stand out from the rest the companies have to ensure their product is more polished and that content is brought out quickly in order to satisfy a player base that burns through content in a matter of weeks. 

You can't compare a 2011/12 launch to a 2004 launch when most people didn't even know what an MMO was.

When Wow is prepared to offer me a method to solo endgame instances and slowly acquire my epic gear, then I'll come back.

For me, it's just not worth dealing with all the drama that comes along with pugging/guilding/raiding to pursue endgame advancement.

Originally posted by SwampRob

When Wow is prepared to offer me a method to solo endgame instances and slowly acquire my epic gear, then I'll come back.

For me, it's just not worth dealing with all the drama that comes along with pugging/guilding/raiding to pursue endgame advancement.

"Solo in an MMO?  Blah blah blah"  I know.   But nothing less is what it would take to get me back in that game.

Very much so yes, if anything, I wish Blizzard and many other MMO devs would follow suit with what Trion has been doing with Rift.  And like you, solo in an MMO sounds stupid, but really when ya look at how MMOs have been getting designed the last 6-7yrs, they're almost entirely solo until you get to the cap, then to proceed you're forced to participate in raids.  Now thats extremely stupid if ya ask me.

I just like playing in a world with hundreds of other people, but I don't always enjoy playing directly with them!

The sales end a day before SWTOR comes out. So roughly, "Give us as much money as we can get out of you before you make the move to a better game. Please? For old time's sake?"