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There it goes! Another Vanguard Release!

Poor sods... in six months they will sit by the round table, shaking their heads "What went wrong?!"

Its not finished, spambrains! Learn from history!

Is that Worldwide or just U.S.A?

Well I hope the devs really pull there finger out, a good job so far.. I would really like to see this game do well..
Hope this launch date is a wise...

Originally posted by alakram

There it goes! Another Vanguard Release!

i couldn't said it much better.

Laggy as hell, even more if u ask me. And if u play a (sort of) shooter you need fps....

Release

To soon.

Needs another year of  polish and content.

No one seems to have yet learned the lessons that WoW put down.

Not talking about 'Game-Play'; talking about Quality and Polish.

And, yes, I was in WoW Beta and there at Launch.  WoW was then, and is now, High-Quality and Polished.

I do not believe any MMORPG is going to succeed without meeting those standard levels.

So, if TR releases in 30 days, TR will fall flat and fail to achieve the success that it might have had.

Word to the Wise.

I'll reserve judgement, but I am a bit concerned.

My computer is over 5 years old and it runs the game fairly ok, I need to upgrade my ram, but over all its an enjoyable experience most of the time.

also...they are about 2 builds ahead of  the version people are playing on the betaservers right now

big patch comming today and they have at least 1 more before launch. Let me remind you all that the last patch was 2 gig. Not that I am not nervous, but lets not be all doom and gloom here people 

PS: The game is NOT laggy at all if you have enough RAM.

Originally posted by Warcriminal

also...they are about 2 builds ahead of  the version people are playing on the betaservers right now

 

big patch comming today and they have at least 1 more before launch. Let me remind you all that the last patch was 2 gig. Not that I am not nervous, but lets not be all doom and gloom here people 

 

PS: The game is NOT laggy at all if you have enough RAM.

Exactly why I was reserving judgment, even if it isn’t polished to a fine shine, that doesn’t mean it’s doomed to fail.

To the person that mentioned WOW; lets not forget that WOW had its share of bugs on release and although those bugs may have been few, I spent my fair share falling through the world or losing some item that I know I had when I logged out.

30 days may be just about right, depending on the current build, either way we will know in a month.

The game is very enjoyable. I look forward to the patch tonight to see what bugs have been fixed, and am even more excited to see what content we havent seen in beta when it goes live.

The game is far from the doom and gloom people say here, in fact i bet the same has been said for every mmo to date with regards to release dates. It isnt that buggy at all, especially for an open beta.

Thats probably all I can say without a forum mod spamming me with NDA infringement warnings.

I've never seen an MMO launch without its share of bugs, not everything can be cought in beta!  TR will launch with bugs, which will be worked out, leading to more bugs, etc.  Regardless of this, I'm still psyched!  I've been playing the beta and have been enjoying it a lot.  The only thing I'm really missing is a guild...

I've got a bad feeling, though, that when the game does launch it will be a little anti-climatic.  Its not going to be a WoW, which is both good and bad.  The bad is there wont be millions of players and that much love, the good is that there wont be millions of players, and that much player-based annoyance!  I just hope that those of us who do play it will form a really good player base, helpful and fun!

Originally posted by ShotgunJoe

The game is very enjoyable. I look forward to the patch tonight to see what bugs have been fixed, and am even more excited to see what content we havent seen in beta when it goes live.

The game is far from the doom and gloom people say here, in fact i bet the same has been said for every mmo to date with regards to release dates. It isnt that buggy at all, especially for an open beta.

Thats probably all I can say without a forum mod spamming me with NDA infringement warnings.

Has the NDA been lifted?  I am looking forward to hearing from the best testers, if so.  If it hasn't been lifted, didn't you just sorta violate it?  Or I guess since it's getting so close to release now, you probably don't care.  Thanks for the info though!

Wow, had plenty of bugs.  Everytime you mined in the barrens you ended up bent over and sliding around instead of running.  Monsters you could beat on over and over while they sat there letting you lev. up your weapon skill.  Strat and Scholo bugs.  Disconnects.  Constant random errors over and over.  There were times the game would just stop running for me then a week or so later it would run.  In fact for along time after every patch I would get constant disconnects.  It was like they were putting bugs INTO the game.  How about logging in and no one had clothes on?  How about logging in and you could see everyone except yourself ?  All you had was your shadow running around.  Alterac Valley= Bug fest, sometimes no npc defenders would show up, capping flags through towers, NPC's guards sitting there while the opposite faction stood next to them taking screenshots, Belinda missing.  So polished, it wasn't maybe it had a light buff, but far from problem free.  Any game is going to be buggy upon release and as WoW has show it will continue to have bugs for along time.   

Originally posted by Dabruuzer

 

Originally posted by ShotgunJoe

The game is very enjoyable. I look forward to the patch tonight to see what bugs have been fixed, and am even more excited to see what content we havent seen in beta when it goes live.

The game is far from the doom and gloom people say here, in fact i bet the same has been said for every mmo to date with regards to release dates. It isnt that buggy at all, especially for an open beta.

Thats probably all I can say without a forum mod spamming me with NDA infringement warnings.

 

 

Has the NDA been lifted?  I am looking forward to hearing from the best testers, if so.  If it hasn't been lifted, didn't you just sorta violate it?  Or I guess since it's getting so close to release now, you probably don't care.  Thanks for the info though!

 NDA lifted today. Waiting for specifics on the doom and gloom.

Link: tr.stratics.com/#24418

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Originally posted by Warcriminal

PS: The game is NOT laggy at all if you have enough RAM.

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The game is nowhere near ready for release. There are some HUGE bugs that should have been fixed before launch. I love Richard Garriott, and I was really cheering for this game, however, the fact still remains that this game needed about six more months of development time before achieving a release candidate status.

Maybe they do have something up their sleeve. However, I don't see why they would hide all of their 40+ content including all end game content without going through an extensive beta test. I hope for Richard Garriott's sake they do.

The word on the street is, there are a lot of changes for TR today, but as for the NDA being lifted, no word on the beta forums about it..

I hope it has been however =D

Ugh...

I , really hope you are not right.

Garriot is a great dude, and he really, really loves his games. But if they do a "vanguard" release , i am afraid the game will fail.MMO community is just not going to tolerate unfinished games anymore.

They should really hold the release if the game is not polished

Cuppa Jo posted about the NDA and launch, will be announced later today.

you know, it's a good thing auto makers don't follow the MMO trend. we'd all be driving cars with no seats, lights, and intermittant brakes, with the promise of them being finished "later".

The game is fun, but yes - it runs slow. It takes a long time to log in, and once in, there are severe lag issues from time to time. These things need to be addressed quickly, before release.

Originally posted by etruscan

The game is fun, but yes - it runs slow. It takes a long time to log in, and once in, there are severe lag issues from time to time. These things need to be addressed quickly, before release.

TR is one of the games I'm looking forward to play. I don't know much about how game servers work, but I had a question. Is the game lagging/running slow do to it being run on a small test server with less speed/lower end components, or is the game running on a "release date" server (I'm not sure if that makes sense or not).

Games probably in content lock-down already, so dont expect much other than bug fixes until after launch! =)

Launches on my birthday....not that anyone cares....I just want to feel important

In my opinion, anyone who says TR is another "vanguard launch" is a bit mistaken.  First of all, Vanguard had NOTHING to offer to the MMO society.  Standerd classes, standerd everything, nothing special.  As for you people who say its just laggy and crappy, try upgrading your crappy computer, first.  Tabula Rasa is with one of the freshest MMO genres, MMOFPS.  Unique for those who enjoy FPS, "crappy and laggy" for those who hate FPS.

ummm, have you even played it?im guessing not b/c its NOT A FPS...Its not even a MMORPG...its a online singleplayer game.

ok first of all
let me just say that the repports of lag are mostly because of people playing in crowded instances of the starting zone. If you teleport to another instance of the zone, Latancy will drop drastically.
Otherwize bad preformance is as allways secured by using "old" equipment.
here is a few images (from a great looking game I might add) that shows preformance on my system with quite a few bells and whistles on

This game is NOT a new Vanguard!
the people that says so are simply not credible. Its plays very well on my system. I have not crashed ONCE! It has addictive and fast gameplay and YES...it does lack some content and fluff, but the core gameplay is fast, furious and FUN!.
The devs LISTEN to the testers and have added quite a few features that the betatesters asked for . NOT everything but as can be seen from Cupajos list -a lot of things have been passed on and while it might not be in the game for launch, I truely believe this one is a keeper that will grow and expand nicely after launch.
after todays patch the control-points were activated for real and waves of Bane came in to cap AFS bases -It was a blast to defend and recapture. I have not had as mush fun in an MMO for ages!
So
if you like sci-fi and are sick and tired of elves and orcs -If you like fast and furious teamplay with cool guns and equipment you will not be dissapointed when launch day comes along.
 

Yea, I agree with the last poster.  I have only 1 gig of ram and I can run it on normal with no lag what so ever.  My computer is not that uber either, 6800GT, 2.4ghz SINGLE core processor.

If you lag either turn your settings down a bit or go into another zone.

And to who ever said it was a single player game you obviously never have played it because I am always seeing people, they are everywhere, I went into a random cave and there were people all over the place.

This game should have a good release if they just tweak it a bit (like swimming animations dont work for me =/)

Otherwise this is a good game so far, I'm liking it, but not sure about buying it.  I guess we will just have to see.

And dont the servers go up in 30 minutes? =D

Originally posted by marinrider

 

And dont the servers go up in 30 minutes? =D

The Euroservers have been up for 6 hours now   -and so have I :D

Hm, its not letting me log in :(

EDIT : Logged in :)

Well, I never had a serious performance problem, and I don't have a fast computer: it's a P4 3.0ghz with 2GB RAM and a 7600GT. As long as I don't max out, it's quite playable.

The bugs were not that much of a problem, either... Yeah, I'm playing Vanguard among other things, so I'm highly bug-tolerant. Besides, finding bugs is what you do in betas, right? As long as it doesn't get unplayable, I'm OK.

Still, I ended up playing it less and less even though I believe in really testing a game once you get a spot. The first couple of weeks was mindless fun, then it got less and less so. I think I'm among the few who had no "quality / performance" related problems with the game, but simply design-related ones. It got repetitive and utterly boring for me after a while; whatever I did just felt hollow.

This is not exactly a FPS game, and not a standard RPG at all, and sadly it did not feel to me like it fed off the good parts of the two genres. Maybe because FPS means all-out PVP to me, and RPG means rich, involved storylines and a lot of things to do other than kill mobs. This is an odd hybrid indeed. Pulled me in with its fast fun gameplay at first, but spat me out cold in a short time. I can imagine people liking it though. Well, we'll see :)

looks into his crystal ball... planetside with some neocron flavor... how popular are those games? this game will have a niche following but reamain one of the smaller mmo's

/pass next

Originally posted by Kasimir

Its not finished, spambrains! Learn from history!

"They" (the big publishing corporations) HAVE learned the lesson of History...

The lesson of capitalism is that people are SHEEP and will bitch and moan and cry...

and then go out and buy the defective product at full retail anyway.

Anyone who buys products on day 1, based on ads and glowing reviews PAID for by the publishers deserves whatever they get.  Why not  wait 2 weeks and see if the release game is really stable.

Originally posted by Warcriminal

here is a few images  

erm, the in-game chat in many of those pics is about BUGS !  

Interesting to hear the release date announcement.   Also interesting to hear the conflicting 'Game not ready/Game will be ready' chatter on Forums and sites.

Frankly, I don't care how many patches they implement between now and launch.  History has shown us these kind of comments sprouting up before the launch of a game are never a good sign.

The kind of comments that *should* be sprouting up are "The game has been ready for a while, why don't they release it??"   We've seen that before if people would bother to tax their memories of the successful recent online MMORPGs.

But it is Richard Garriott so we have to give him the benefit of the doubt.    The question is whether he'll live up to his reputation.   Keep in mind, we've also seen other 'father-figures' of MMORPGs take recent nose-dives if people would bother to remember.

Oh wait, they ARE remembering.  We are ALL going to be watching TR this October. 

Originally posted by Alienovrlord

But it is Richard Garriott so we have to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

Brad mcquaid part 2?Well in MR Garriotts defence brad straight up let sigil sink like a rock least Rich is out there kinda taking the bullet.I dont want TR to fail but with an end game were you start over with a new toon when you hit max lvl how can you not fail?You could have said the same thing about wow when it launched with no end game but the game was balls out fun to play with raids in the works.TR has no group based content planed let alone no raid content thats bean spoken of.Not even a hey later we "might" do something.

Originally posted by marinrider

And to who ever said it was a single player game you obviously never have played it because I am always seeing people, they are everywhere, I went into a random cave and there were people all over the place.

Sorry, I beta'd it for a month, before uninstalling. Garriott did indeed drop the ball on this one. Big time.

And there's no way in hell I'd ever pay 14.99 a month ( the price for the monthly subscription ) for it. A Guild Wars type payment would have been acceptable (only buying the game itself), but paying box AND sub fees for this is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Zorvan

 

Originally posted by marinrider

And to who ever said it was a single player game you obviously never have played it because I am always seeing people, they are everywhere, I went into a random cave and there were people all over the place.

What he meant is there is no reason to be in a group. The entire game is soloable. It is a singleplayer game with multiplayer capability, far as I'm concerned.

 

Sorry, I beta'd it for a month, before uninstalling. Garriott did indeed drop the ball on this one. Big time.

And there's no way in hell I'd ever pay 14.99 a month ( the price for the monthly subscription ) for it. A Guild Wars type payment would have been acceptable (only buying the game itself), but paying box AND sub fees for this is ridiculous.

Idk how the other games are doing (SWG, EQ2, etc) but I'd say the only games worth playing are WoW and EvE.

So sad to see this rushed (assumed it is).
Bu theres still a small amount of hope...remember WoW beta ?It had crapload of bugs and server problems, then they released it and after the initial chaos it was the greatest time of 9583957823758 people playing. =P

Originally posted by Darkz0r

 

Originally posted by Zorvan

 

Originally posted by marinrider

And to who ever said it was a single player game you obviously never have played it because I am always seeing people, they are everywhere, I went into a random cave and there were people all over the place.

What he meant is there is no reason to be in a group. The entire game is soloable. It is a singleplayer game with multiplayer capability, far as I'm concerned.

 

Sorry, I beta'd it for a month, before uninstalling. Garriott did indeed drop the ball on this one. Big time.

And there's no way in hell I'd ever pay 14.99 a month ( the price for the monthly subscription ) for it. A Guild Wars type payment would have been acceptable (only buying the game itself), but paying box AND sub fees for this is ridiculous.

..and that is exactly why WoW still reigns.
Sure it's not THE game, but at least its relatively more polished than half-assed rushed MMO's.

 

 

Idk how the other games are doing (SWG, EQ2, etc) but I'd say the only games worth playing are WoW and EvE.

So sad to see this rushed (assumed it is).
Bu theres still a small amount of hope...remember WoW beta ?It had crapload of bugs and server problems, then they released it and after the initial chaos it was the greatest time of 9583957823758 people playing. =P

 

It needs a massive overhaul.  Redesign the classes, redesign the skills, redo most of the quests, integrate a solid PvP system, add a lot more mob types and models, revamp the entire core gamplay and control scheme, and so on.

This is not a case an otherwise good being pushed too so early.

Tabula Rasa AKA The sci-fi version of vanguard.

Half-finished sloppy crap. Unluckily for them, a lot of people found out it was sloppy before they bought it.

Good bones with very little meat on them.

I'm the furthest thing from a pvp zealot, but this should have been Bane vs Human pvp title.  I could only imagine the strategy and tactics involved if this were structured like DAOC.

This game doesn't have the " I gotta stay up one more hour till I ding even though its 3am and I have to go to work in 4 hours." factor.

Next! 

Originally posted by darrenism

Good bones with very little meat on them.

 

I'm the furthest thing from a pvp zealot, but this should have been Bane vs Human pvp title.  I could only imagine the strategy and tactics involved if this were structured like DAOC.

 

This game doesn't have the " I gotta stay up one more hour till I ding even though its 3am and I have to go to work in 4 hours." factor.

 

Next! 

 

 

This is what i wanted to say, have same feelings, For god sake, why do people tend to repeat same mistakes, unfinished, boring and expensive game.

So far so good! I am really liking the game! 2 thumbs up!! My machine is about 5 years old and though i could use a bit more ram it is running mostly lag free.