Man this game looks worse every time i see it! LOL

Anyway, i will be getting it. Because if Vanguard will not be good , there will be no good mmos until 2008

Looks fantastic, the variety of creatures in the video is outstanding.

So use to the generic WoW models used over and over again.

the fact they went to next scene after each attack motion had been done, worries me greatly, if they want slow paced combat that's okay but they sure have to make sure that the player doesn't feel like he's sitting with a 5 second auto attack weapon that would just be horrid.

I really hope they, for themselves, don't turn it into a sleeping pill.

LMAO!!!

To make it seem like combat isn't slow and dull, they string together a series of fights (lasting only one swing time each) to make it look fast!

What a fraud. Next time show an entire fight, or at least enough of one for people to judge.

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Originally posted by CoreChamber
 Well I will be playing Vanguard when it come out. Yet I do think its Sony doing EQ2 the way it was ment to be.  Not saying EQ2 wasnt any good but it didnt have the everquest feel. Id imagine this game to have the graphics of EQ2 (with a little more detail) but with the gamepaly you expect from a legend like EQ.

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The animations look fine -- very realistic in stance and execution. As for the time between strikes, this was a topic of discussion long, long ago, before there was a beta; because back then Sigil was telling the community that combat would be in eight-second rounds, in order to allow the player to react to the many circumstances high-level combat can involve. It could be argued that the rounds should then lengthen only in higher-level combat, but that... just wouldn't feel right, would it?

We know the eight-second limit is no longer in place, but I still expect that the time between strikes will be slightly longer than most people are accustomed to, because at higher levels things become most strategically reactionary. Something that I think would be extremely difficult to capture in a video clip unless it is frozen at key frames and explained by a narrator.

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Originally posted by Ngeldu5t
I`ve always defended Vanguard but this trailer smells SOE all the way  and this is a bad move as some of the excerpts are dated.(watch some footage from E3 vid with the giant.. and the guy in Red have already been used)Until now all movies were from beta and this one does not look like beta.So,Sigil Staff I hope you know what you are doing by allowing such trailers

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Marketting is one area Sigil does not have much say in, as far as I am aware.

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Originally posted by Amathe

LMAO!!!

To make it seem like combat isn't slow and dull, they string together a series of fights (lasting only one swing time each) to make it look fast!

What a fraud. Next time show an entire fight, or at least enough of one for people to judge.

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Like WoW, or any other MMORPG ever made for that matter, put an entire fight into a marketing video? You're opinions used to have some originality, now you seem like you're just another slack-jawed keyboard mashing troll. The graphics look great in that video and it leaves you wanting more. I now know that you have no interest in Vanguard and your daily visits to the forum are just exactly what I thought originally. You're a Vanguard troll.

I loved the video. While short, it showed me some of the locations I haven't ever seen yet. Can't wait to get there myself.

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Originally posted by Mischiff
I wasnt impressed .. fighting distance looked bad ..  like you are swinging in the air .. to the person who said they would play it because nothing will come out till 2008, there are a bunch slated to come out in 2007 .. and some even look better than this. IMHO

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Originally posted by BriarFox

It is good to see some posters actually addressing the clip.  I get pretty tired of the political garbage.  "I hate any game made by X company" stuff really gets old.

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Originally posted by anarchyart

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Originally posted by Mischiff
I wasnt impressed .. fighting distance looked bad ..  like you are swinging in the air .. to the person who said they would play it because nothing will come out till 2008, there are a bunch slated to come out in 2007 .. and some even look better than this. IMHO

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WTH is with people bitching about combat distance? I just have to know, how old are you? Not that I'm putting you down, but I just want to know.

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jesus that was like the most unimpressive video i ever seen in my life.

And this game just looks more and more like EQ2 every video i see .

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Originally posted by anarchyart

The graphics look great in that video and it leaves you wanting more.

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All it leaves me wanting is another game entirely. That video is crap. It's made with their computers and it's still a choppy, laggy, stuttering piece of junk. And this is a part of the game they wanted to showcase! What must the rest be like?

I know you feel that each and every negative comment on this game requires a personal response by you, but damn man look at the avalanche of negative responses from mainstream gamers, now that we are in a forum for everyone and not just the coolaid drinkers. Are we all trolls?

doesx thisx gavnex havnex avnythivngx tox dox withx sovnyx cbesidesx vnarketivngx,/justx thoughtx thatsx allx theyx hadx therex havndsx ivnx wasx thex vnarketivng.*

yesx vnyx keycboaredx isx scbrewedx up.* 

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Originally posted by Amathe

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Originally posted by anarchyart

The graphics look great in that video and it leaves you wanting more.

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All it leaves me wanting is another game entirely. That video is crap. It's made with their computers and it's still a choppy, laggy, stuttering piece of junk. And this is a part of the game they wanted to showcase! What must the rest be like?

I know you feel that each and every negative comment on this game requires a personal response by you, but damn man look at the avalanche of negative responses from mainstream gamers, now that we are in a forum for everyone and not just the coolaid drinkers. Are we all trolls?

 

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You may not be trolls, but your opinions are by no means the gospel nor the ultimate authority, which is the way they are presented.  As I said before, I still wonder why, even after the elaborate post on the other thread, you and others are still attacking anything and everything that comes out. Being the veterans you are you have to know by now in it's current state of production along with it's current goal for launch, the sweeping changes you guys want aren't gonna happen.  So why try to bring as much doom and gloom as you possibly can for others or take derogatory shots at them (Re: the cool-aid remark you seem very fond of)? It seems like every new bit of information requires a personal negative response from you, no?  And this "avalanche", as you say, just isn't so when you remember that when people are generally happy with something, they don't speak up, they just ride along. So when the only voices heard are the complaining ones, sure, it may seem like an avalanche, but it's not. The silent, happy, majority made it's voice heard in SWG after the NGE. 

Hmm, hope I put enough smilies in this one...

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Originally posted by boognish75

doesx thisx gavnex havnex avnythivngx tox dox withx sovnyx cbesidesx vnarketivngx,/justx thoughtx thatsx allx theyx hadx therex havndsx ivnx wasx thex vnarketivng.*

 

yesx vnyx keycboaredx isx scbrewedx up.* 

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Originally posted by ksternberg
WoW did it right and let users choose their path to max level. 

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I agree.

However Sigil is handling customer support, SOE collects the money and runs the servers, its very good at that. All GMs are Sigil employed.