Looks like we got a looooooong wait till D3 is released.. still I'd rather wait that get game that is *meh*.

Ofc this is candy to the Blizz haters so you guys get your fill.

Not Impressed.

Hmmmm, making a lot of cuts lately. Smells of going against the mantra of "releasing when it is done" and moving to "get it the frick out the door, NOW!"

I guess there's always paid expansions for the things being cut.

/feeling cynical today

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Hmmmm, making a lot of cuts lately. Smells of going against the mantra of "releasing when it is done" and moving to "get it the frick out the door, NOW!"

 

I guess there's always paid expansions for the things being cut.

 

/feeling cynical today

 

I think they are actually cutting stuff to rework it and then release the game. As opposed to removing unfinished features and releasing. There was a blue post about the size of a disertation on this a week ago. 

yeah it was fun waiting even longer for a game that's being released for the console platform AGAIN didn't they learn their lesson from Ghost, yeah thanks Blizzard!

Personally after trying the whole crap companion system of swtor i m glad they have removed companions.

In my opinion rpgs that have multiplayer elements must have to do about you and not about you and your stupid companion.

Very nice move from blizzard.Get rid of worthless junk.In the universe of diablo i want to be alone  and hopeless just like diablo 1

A lot of you guys don't know much about what you are talking about.  A release date is closing in, and they want to take these out to rework them and expand on them.  If you visit the official forums you would see 99% of all posts responding this are incredibly positive.  Companion scrolls probably aren't what you are thinking they are.

Originally posted by Zefire

Personally after trying the whole crap companion system of swtor i m glad they have removed companions.

Crap companions in SWTOR? You've got to be kidding, did you even play the game?



 I never felt so "attached" to a "pet" in any other game.

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Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Hmmmm, making a lot of cuts lately. Smells of going against the mantra of "releasing when it is done" and moving to "get it the frick out the door, NOW!" 

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This is one of the good things about Blizzard, they arent afraid to admit when something isnt working and get rid of it. Other companies are prone to leave in crap like this and ignore it for years.

Blizzard keeps slashing content out of Diablo 3. Pricetag is still $60.

Relic hasn't slashed any content out of Torchlight 2. Pricetag is still $20.

Hmm...

Originally posted by Swoogie

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Hmmmm, making a lot of cuts lately. Smells of going against the mantra of "releasing when it is done" and moving to "get it the frick out the door, NOW!"

 

I guess there's always paid expansions for the things being cut.

 

/feeling cynical today

 

I think they are actually cutting stuff to rework it and then release the game. As opposed to removing unfinished features and releasing. There was a blue post about the size of a disertation on this a week ago. 

They aren't, they are cutting this content so they don't have to worry about it when they push the game out on release day. Whether or not it means we see it down the road with the obligatory expansion who knows.

And I'm saying this because this is exactly what happened with Blizzards last major release, WoW: Cataclysm. Remember they gutted out what had to be half of the promised content mentioned in the announcement trailer for release, which led to one of the most dull, uninteresting, utterly horrible Archaeology profession as it is now.

Removing anything really isn't increasing my interest for the game.  They've had ten years to brainstorm and around half of that to develop a third title in their incredibly succesful series; what have they been doing all this time?

I'm way passed giving a shit about Diablo 3, now.  I'll watch the cinematics on Youtube and be done with it.

Originally posted by Zefire

Personally after trying the whole crap companion system of swtor i m glad they have removed companions.

In my opinion rpgs that have multiplayer elements must have to do about you and not about you and your stupid companion.

Very nice move from blizzard.Get rid of worthless junk.In the universe of diablo i want to be alone  and hopeless just like diablo 1

 

Companions were not removed, only Scrolls of Companions.

I just hope that after release they add stuff, it can cost money, but I want to keep the Diablo experience alive.  D2 just got too stagnant after LoD.  The oddball changes they made with synergies and runewords were actually kind of annoying to me.  I didn't need a harder game, or a game that made single tree specs enticing when at endgame it was still suicide to only run (for example) one element as a sorceress, and it's just too hard to hunt runes that you actually want or need.  I assume the AH will fix that in D3 at least.  There was simply no room for legit trading in D2 after 04, it was nothing but spambots for ebay sales in the lobby.

So okay take out some stuff, release the game, but don't just forget about it after one expac.

Originally posted by uohaloran

Removing anything really isn't increasing my interest for the game.  They've had ten years to brainstorm and around half of that to develop a third title in their incredibly succesful series; what have they been doing all this time?

I'm way passed giving a shit about Diablo 3, now.  I'll watch the cinematics on Youtube and be done with it.

 

You aren't a fan if you aren't getting the game, if you aren't getting the game, don't pretend you ever were.  If you didn't notice they dropped the franchise entirely in favor of WoW development for years.  We are honestly lucky they are bringing it back due to a lull between WoW's explosive growth and the next MMO they bring out.

Originally posted by Ceridith

Blizzard keeps slashing content out of Diablo 3. Pricetag is still $60.

Relic hasn't slashed any content out of Torchlight 2. Pricetag is still $20.

Hmm...

 

Both will be worth twice their price tag, and anyone who's played the original TL and the game it tried to rip off (D2), knows this. 

Originally posted by adam_nox

Originally posted by uohaloran

Removing anything really isn't increasing my interest for the game.  They've had ten years to brainstorm and around half of that to develop a third title in their incredibly succesful series; what have they been doing all this time?

I'm way passed giving a shit about Diablo 3, now.  I'll watch the cinematics on Youtube and be done with it.

 

You aren't a fan if you aren't getting the game, if you aren't getting the game, don't pretend you ever were.  If you didn't notice they dropped the franchise entirely in favor of WoW development for years.  We are honestly lucky they are bringing it back due to a lull between WoW's explosive growth and the next MMO they bring out.

 

adam_nox has a point there...

Originally posted by itgrowls

yeah it was fun waiting even longer for a game that's being released for the console platform AGAIN didn't they learn their lesson from Ghost, yeah thanks Blizzard!

What does it being released on a console have to do with anything?

Originally posted by adam_nox

Originally posted by uohaloran

Removing anything really isn't increasing my interest for the game.  They've had ten years to brainstorm and around half of that to develop a third title in their incredibly succesful series; what have they been doing all this time?

I'm way passed giving a shit about Diablo 3, now.  I'll watch the cinematics on Youtube and be done with it.

 

You aren't a fan if you aren't getting the game, if you aren't getting the game, don't pretend you ever were.  If you didn't notice they dropped the franchise entirely in favor of WoW development for years.  We are honestly lucky they are bringing it back due to a lull between WoW's explosive growth and the next MMO they bring out.

Blizzard has never dropped the Diablo franchise. the game began developement at Blizzard North in 2000, they worked on two iterations of the game up until 2005 when the studio closed. Blizzard Irvine has been working on the current iteration since that time.

I never really did get into these reforging scrolls, and the companions seems a bit weak in my opinion. I think they going to release a future patch or add it back on an expansion when they discover an "like"-able version. I just like it how companions are completely optional and not so much useful in diablo 2.

Think people need to read a little closer before posting. This is what is removed here. They basically spawned random critters that would pick up gold and stuff for you. They were basically pointless in-game because you can already do this yourself. People may be getting these mixed up with Followers which are still in-game and fight by your side. Followers are found in-game and not by a scroll. Can read more about them here.

Diablo as been delayed again, 1st quarter of 2012 is now highly unlikely, they also cancelled Blizzcon 2012.

Considering the amount of changes in the "stress test" part of the game, I find it highly unlikely that D3 would be even released in 2012...

Originally posted by Zefire

Personally after trying the whole crap companion system of swtor i m glad they have removed companions.

In my opinion rpgs that have multiplayer elements must have to do about you and not about you and your stupid companion.

Very nice move from blizzard.Get rid of worthless junk.In the universe of diablo i want to be alone  and hopeless just like diablo 1

 

Hehe. They aren't getting rid of companions, but companions scrolls. These scrolls summon little creatures like snakes and insects that follow you around and pick up your loot for you.

Hey Blizzard.

HEY! YOU!

How about cutting something that matters to EVERYONE except gold farmers. How about cutting that RMT auction house so my guild, gaming family, and best friends can ALL put Diablo III back on their wish their. Until you do, go jump off a cliff with Diablo III in your arms.

-Thank you!

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Hey Blizzard.

 

HEY! YOU!

 

How about cutting something that matters to EVERYONE except gold farmers. How about cutting that RMT auction house so my guild, gaming family, and best friends can ALL put Diablo III back on their wish their. Until you do, go jump off a cliff with Diablo III in your arms.

 

-Thank you!

AMEN BROTHER!!!

So, see you in Torchlight 2?

Not sure this developement team has a real sense of what Diablo really is. More interested in Torchlight 2 and Grim Dawn.

Honestly after gettting into beta, the game doesn't feel like Diablo really much at all. It could be an number of Diablo copy type games really.

I was so stoked to get into beta and i played through it but was already bored and not impressed before i even got to the end of it.

Sorry to say, maybe it's just been to long but Diablo is dead.

Originally posted by adam_nox

Originally posted by Ceridith

Blizzard keeps slashing content out of Diablo 3. Pricetag is still $60.

Relic hasn't slashed any content out of Torchlight 2. Pricetag is still $20.

Hmm...

 

Both will be worth twice their price tag, and anyone who's played the original TL and the game it tried to rip off (D2), knows this. 

Uh, yeah, I think the intent the creators of TL had was a reboot, so "rip off" was kind of their intention. Though, how exactly do developers rip off their own work?

You do know that the guys that made TL and making TL2 are the guys who headed production of Diablo 1 & 2, right?

You do realize that no one of importance that worked on DIablo 1 & 2 has anything to do with DIablo 3, right?

Blizzard as a company may own the Diablo franchise, but the actual people working on it now are completely different.

In my opinion TL2 will be a far better succesor to the Diablo franchise than Diablo 3. Hell, TL2's music is being done by the exact same composer and orchestra that did the music for Diablos 1 & 2.

I was really excited about Diablo 3 when I first heard about it but I just have this terrible feeling the more I see what they have done to the game that they have completely destroyed what made Diablo 2 amazing. As things progress I think im more excited for Torchlight 2 to be completely honest. I see what they do to Diablo 3 and the cost of 60 dollars then I look at Torchlight 2 and how good it looks and its 20 dollar price tag. just doesnt seem worthwhile to get diablo 3 anymore.

Hope they turn things around. I really have high hopes for Diablo 3. Diablo 2 and blizzard were my childhood so heres for wishing! 

They have to leave some stuff for the expansions too, you know ;)

Originally posted by mackdawg19

Think people need to read a little closer before posting. This is what is removed here. They basically spawned random critters that would pick up gold and stuff for you. They were basically pointless in-game because you can already do this yourself. People may be getting these mixed up with Followers which are still in-game and fight by your side. Followers are found in-game and not by a scroll. Can read more about them here.

 

Ah thanks for the clarification I thought it was the followers getting the axe but it's just the pets. cool

Funny to see people bitching about a none combat pet that just picked up gold for you.

Just proves how full of shit most posters here are.

Originally posted by Teh_Axi

Funny to see people bitching about a none combat pet that just picked up gold for you.

Just proves how full of shit most posters here are.

 

or that they cant read....

Originally posted by Brodter
I wouldnt pay 60$ for a game unless it was from Blizzard.

I wouldn't be paid $60 to play anymore Blizzard games with everything that's come out.

Now, Bethesda on the other hand, is the only company I've ever given more than $50 for a single game and that was Skyrim.

TL2  FTW!

I get it free with my annual pass.

/happy

Originally posted by Robokapp

I get it free with my annual pass.

/happy

Yeah, that is a great deal unless you tire on Wow after a month. :)

What happens if the game don´t release within a year BTW? Blizz aren´t exactly known for hurrying their releases and Diablo 2 got delayed almost 3 years... Do you still get it or do you have to sign up for another year as well?

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Robokapp

I get it free with my annual pass.

/happy

Yeah, that is a great deal unless you tire on Wow after a month. :)

What happens if the game don´t release within a year BTW? Blizz aren´t exactly known for hurrying their releases and Diablo 2 got delayed almost 3 years... Do you still get it or do you have to sign up for another year as well?

"Free" D3 with year WoW sub is very clever from Blizzard.

First of all they do get 12 months of sub.

Second increased population on servers ad that is good for increasing subs even more.

Third MoP will be released when most of those 12 months sub people will still pay sub = increased MoP sales.

Last but not least - Blizzard want to make money on RMAH , so some relatively small % of "free" D3 does not hurt. More people in D3 = more money out of RMAH.

So nah that's not free heh

Originally posted by Twistingfate

I was really excited about Diablo 3 when I first heard about it but I just have this terrible feeling the more I see what they have done to the game that they have completely destroyed what made Diablo 2 amazing. As things progress I think im more excited for Torchlight 2 to be completely honest. I see what they do to Diablo 3 and the cost of 60 dollars then I look at Torchlight 2 and how good it looks and its 20 dollar price tag. just doesnt seem worthwhile to get diablo 3 anymore.

 

Hope they turn things around. I really have high hopes for Diablo 3. Diablo 2 and blizzard were my childhood so heres for wishing! 

i just cant cope well with people like you. First you bitch an moan cause Blizzards destroys the D2 legacy by D3 artstyle, rainbows, abandoning the skill system etc. Now you bitch and moan when Blizzards REVERTS D3 to its D2 roots. The where no companion pets in D2 and the recent system changes are making D3 more like D2! having a townportal and constantly going to town was the D2 way wasnt it? So please decide already, do you want a completely new D3 with every single system changed or do you want a true continuation of the legendary D2.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Hey Blizzard.

 

HEY! YOU!

 

How about cutting something that matters to EVERYONE except gold farmers. How about cutting that RMT auction house so my guild, gaming family, and best friends can ALL put Diablo III back on their wish their. Until you do, go jump off a cliff with Diablo III in your arms.

 

-Thank you!

sorry but this is old, the RMAH will not affect your gameplay AT ALL.  You dont have to use it.  I played D2 for 5 yrs, and tons of stuff was sold on 3rd party sites for cash, lots of scams, I would rather buy and sell thru blizzard

also Path of Exile, I believe will be better then D3 and TL2

"A lot of you guys don't know much about what you are talking about.  A release date is closing in, and they want to take these out to rework them and expand on them.  If you visit the official forums you would see 99% of all posts responding this are incredibly positive.  Companion scrolls probably aren't what you are thinking they are."

LMAO you believe everything you read...I can't see Blizz being honest if they had too about why they are removing eliments....

Originally posted by Ceridith

Originally posted by adam_nox

Originally posted by Ceridith

Blizzard keeps slashing content out of Diablo 3. Pricetag is still $60.

Relic hasn't slashed any content out of Torchlight 2. Pricetag is still $20.

Hmm...

 

Both will be worth twice their price tag, and anyone who's played the original TL and the game it tried to rip off (D2), knows this. 

Uh, yeah, I think the intent the creators of TL had was a reboot, so "rip off" was kind of their intention. Though, how exactly do developers rip off their own work?

You do know that the guys that made TL and making TL2 are the guys who headed production of Diablo 1 & 2, right?

You do realize that no one of importance that worked on DIablo 1 & 2 has anything to do with DIablo 3, right?

Blizzard as a company may own the Diablo franchise, but the actual people working on it now are completely different.

In my opinion TL2 will be a far better succesor to the Diablo franchise than Diablo 3. Hell, TL2's music is being done by the exact same composer and orchestra that did the music for Diablos 1 & 2.

 

Agreed, and I will buy both by the way... ;)

I really dont care that they are cutting content they dont find worth while. Thats a good thing. However with the large amount of changes and the price tag still sitting at $60 this is going to be a title I wait for a good 6 months after release before i read reviews ect. Give people time to let the "freshness" wear off before I think about buying.

I'm doing the same with kingdoms of amalur after trying the beta. It seems fun but it also feels just generic enough that I'm not willing to pay full price for it till I hear more.

Originally posted by Myrdynn

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Hey Blizzard.

 

HEY! YOU!

 

How about cutting something that matters to EVERYONE except gold farmers. How about cutting that RMT auction house so my guild, gaming family, and best friends can ALL put Diablo III back on their wish their. Until you do, go jump off a cliff with Diablo III in your arms.

 

-Thank you!

sorry but this is old, the RMAH will not affect your gameplay AT ALL.  You dont have to use it.  I played D2 for 5 yrs, and tons of stuff was sold on 3rd party sites for cash, lots of scams, I would rather buy and sell thru blizzard

 

exactly how i feel about it. having an official RMAH instead of using Scam sites and paying farmers is a win/win situation. If you think even for a minute that removing this feature will make the game better you are sadly naive. There is always gonna be 3rd party sales sites, and people will use them. Bringing this into the game makes it safer for everyone, and in no way whatsoever effects anyone not using it. 

As to the actual article, im fine with them removing features and broken mechanics that they intend to readjust and add in later- ONLY- if its not gonna cost me more money later to see them. The gaming industry has moved towards the DLC age, which is nothing more than nickle and diming the player for content that should have been put into the game from the start, or at the least added in with a patch later for free. By "saving" content that they already know they want included just to get a few more bucks from the customer is a horrible practice. Worst yet, we as players (customers) encourage it, and for the companies, its a win. Remeber the good ole days when you paid one price for a product and knew exactly what it was you were getting. Oh well.

Originally posted by Dawnbr3aker

Originally posted by Teh_Axi

Funny to see people bitching about a none combat pet that just picked up gold for you.

Just proves how full of shit most posters here are.

 

or that they cant read....

...or that NEITHER of you can read, and that the majority of us are taking this time to bash Blizzard for their PREVIOUS content rips that mattered, and the fact that the RMT auction house was removed for Korea, but not us. It means they CAN remove it, but choose not to at this point.

If that RMT auction house remains in Diablo 3, and offline play is not put back in OR LAN play, Diablo III can keep its failure to itself.

"According to the team, the systems were underdeveloped and can be reworked into something cool."

aka WOTLK "new dances".

Never been heard of again.

Who cares... All i want is a boss i can farm for a week to actually get a single rare(AKA Hoz,shako,soj,bk,tyraelM,listgoeson)

I wanna farm cows for SKILL GC.

I know this aint d2 but its bringing back memory. Gonna spend 60$  and even if i get ripped off,for all the hours i spend in my childhood playing d2..they totally deserve it.

Installing D2 ...Hardcore is still fun once in a while. (til i actually die lol)

Originally posted by adam_nox

Originally posted by uohaloran

Removing anything really isn't increasing my interest for the game.  They've had ten years to brainstorm and around half of that to develop a third title in their incredibly succesful series; what have they been doing all this time?

I'm way passed giving a shit about Diablo 3, now.  I'll watch the cinematics on Youtube and be done with it.

 

You aren't a fan if you aren't getting the game, if you aren't getting the game, don't pretend you ever were.  If you didn't notice they dropped the franchise entirely in favor of WoW development for years.  We are honestly lucky they are bringing it back due to a lull between WoW's explosive growth and the next MMO they bring out.

 

trying to milk money from "fans", is hardly something to fell lucky about, blizzard is milking money from you and you say its ok, you guys don't help games in general, just make this genre worse every single day.

but I guess sheeps will be sheeps.

Originally posted by fenistil

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Robokapp

I get it free with my annual pass.

/happy

Yeah, that is a great deal unless you tire on Wow after a month. :)

What happens if the game don´t release within a year BTW? Blizz aren´t exactly known for hurrying their releases and Diablo 2 got delayed almost 3 years... Do you still get it or do you have to sign up for another year as well?

"Free" D3 with year WoW sub is very clever from Blizzard.

 

First of all they do get 12 months of sub.

Second increased population on servers ad that is good for increasing subs even more.

Third MoP will be released when most of those 12 months sub people will still pay sub = increased MoP sales.

Last but not least - Blizzard want to make money on RMAH , so some relatively small % of "free" D3 does not hurt. More people in D3 = more money out of RMAH.

 

So nah that's not free heh

well I was going to subscribe anyway for at least portions of the year. I did the pass in October so the first 3 months I would've payed anyway. But more importantly than D3, the pass brings MoP Beta. Sooo 2 options:

1) MoP sucks. beta will tell me, I don't buy the MoP, I still get D3. saved MoP money, saved D3 money. that's 8 months of subscription. so I only lose 1 month in worst-case scenario if i decide I want to unsub this month.

2) MoP doesnt suck, I would've stayed subscribed and bought it anyway, annual pass costs me nothing i wouldn't have payed anyway, i get free D3.

It's acceptable either way. Honestly i did the pass for MoP beta not for D3 tbh.