Sounds pretey cool to me.  Just woundering when this game is ever gona come out lol.  I swear its like Jumpgate evolution, you hear about it, but every like 6 months or so.  Not like star wars you hear news every week.  I just hope this game delivers what they hope it will.

 Im glad they decided to approach the "sandboxy" type of game. Not because im a fan of that genre but because the market is already crowded with theme park mmo's.

Just hope they do it well and to be enjoyable, we definately need more good games on the market.

 GAH I WANT IN ON CLOSED BETA! RAWR!!

All sadness aside, I am really happy that they are going to have some big announcements coming up soon. I am highly looking forward to those announcements and I am also looking forward to maybe a new gameplay video. Here is to the upcoming month(s). 

This game is definitely on my watch list. The gameplay they intend to offer sounds like alot of fun. Hopefully we don't have to wait too far into 2010.

I'm actually glad, that Masthead doesn't rush the release of this game. I'm happily waiting another few month, if the product get's released polished therefore.

Same I like the patience conern, Hopefully it wont be a disaster like MO.

Atanas Atanasov:

My message for players is "Patience". We don't want to rush Earthrise to the market so we are working hard to deliver a game that players will enjoy for years to come.

And that's what a lot of us like to hear.  Patience is what a lot of  MMO'ers have, whether it be leveling or waiting for new content, we CAN wait, as long as the developer CAN deliver.  Rushed releases just kill games, and it's a relief to hear that Masthead doesn't want to disappoint like so many others have.  Good luck on a solid release, this gamer is looking forward to your awesome game.

I always like that added element of danger that open pvp provides, but the ridiculous gankfests that make playing impossible (especially for new players) in eg. Darkfall is a turn off. So I'm very encouraged by this:

Open PvP poses one of the most serious challenges in MMO game design - how do you make a fun and exciting game where players have the freedom to totally wreck the game environment with destructive actions? Instead of prohibiting the PvP gameplay down to what is considered fair to everyone, we decided to allow players to act as criminals but also implemented numerous mechanics that encourage law-abiding players to profit from standing against criminals and preserving the peace and order in the game. In that regard, Earthrise is indeed aiming to position players as Player Killers vs. Player Defenders, with the Player Defenders backed by a law system and functional guards and the Player Killers having the item loot incentive to take the risks of the criminal trade.

Originally posted by Demz2

Sounds pretey cool to me.  Just woundering when this game is ever gona come out lol.  I swear its like Jumpgate evolution, you hear about it, but every like 6 months or so.  Not like star wars you hear news every week.  I just hope this game delivers what they hope it will.

I'm more concerned that Star Wars will just fall flat. They have a LOT of advertising and updates and interviews on the game... reminds me very much of WAR and AOC half a year or less before those games were released.

I'm actually pretty thrilled that these guys at Earthrise haven't released ANY ads to speak of because (and this is shocking) there isn't anything to release yet. They are working on it.

The lack of tale-spinning and leading people along a pipedream is pretty refreshing. Even if the game sucks, at least I wasn't pulled in head first by rampant advertising. This might be the first higher profile MMO I get to try without any real previous bias. Kinda cool.

Originally posted by green13

I always like that added element of danger that open pvp provides, but the ridiculous gankfests that make playing impossible (especially for new players) in eg. Darkfall is a turn off. So I'm very encouraged by this:

Open PvP poses one of the most serious challenges in MMO game design - how do you make a fun and exciting game where players have the freedom to totally wreck the game environment with destructive actions? Instead of prohibiting the PvP gameplay down to what is considered fair to everyone, we decided to allow players to act as criminals but also implemented numerous mechanics that encourage law-abiding players to profit from standing against criminals and preserving the peace and order in the game. In that regard, Earthrise is indeed aiming to position players as Player Killers vs. Player Defenders, with the Player Defenders backed by a law system and functional guards and the Player Killers having the item loot incentive to take the risks of the criminal trade.

If you have ever played EvE think of the Earthrise territories like 1.0-0.0 space. The further out you get from civilization the less guards there are and also the closer you get to player owned territories. 

 Are there any recent gameplay videos or dev comments citing the differences in their "new" combat mechanics?  I'm just curious because I remember watching gameplay clips from their old combat model and shuddering.  

The game overall sounds like it has a lot of potential.  Hopefully they nail it.

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Originally posted by comerb

 Are there any recent gameplay videos or dev comments citing the differences in their "new" combat mechanics?  I'm just curious because I remember watching gameplay clips from their old combat model and shuddering.  
The game overall sounds like it has a lot of potential.  Hopefully they nail it.

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We understand that the combat system has undergone a fair number of changes over time. Can you highlight for us anything major that's been added or taken out from what's been previously announced?

While most we have announced so far has been implemented exactly up to our promise, we have been making many changes based on our own experience playing the game we're designing. One of the major changes we have definitely improved on is the control scheme which has been made more responsive and ergonomic, making it much easier to move while targeting your opponents with special abilities. Entering and leaving combat is now left to the player by choosing manually one of two control modes. Players can target their enemies using a muzzle-point cursor but can now easily switch to unlocked cursor for both shooting at any position on the screen with visibility being the only limiting factor, and also selecting and using interface items even in Battle Mode. In Exploration Mode players will move faster and be able to interact with devices and terminals but have no combat capability and would be more vulnerable. In Battle Mode players will have their armor and battle gear fully charged for combat, but will move slower to make targeting more comfortable to combatants. We have also moved from the previous implementation of locking which caused problems while targeting multiple opponents to an assisted cursor targeting which helps players lock their cursor to a target as long as they are pointing in a close enough range from them.

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looking forward to this one my self. Good they are putting some thought into the sandbox to make it work. Hope we get some good toys to play with in the sandbox as well:P

 i'll keep track of it, but i remember seeing gameplay trailers that looked terrible. 

Originally posted by DiSpLiFF

 i'll keep track of it, but i remember seeing gameplay trailers that looked terrible. 

If you thought that was terrible, you've never seen alpha footage before.

Originally posted by green13

I always like that added element of danger that open pvp provides, but the ridiculous gankfests that make playing impossible (especially for new players) in eg. Darkfall is a turn off. So I'm very encouraged by this:

Open PvP poses one of the most serious challenges in MMO game design - how do you make a fun and exciting game where players have the freedom to totally wreck the game environment with destructive actions? Instead of prohibiting the PvP gameplay down to what is considered fair to everyone, we decided to allow players to act as criminals but also implemented numerous mechanics that encourage law-abiding players to profit from standing against criminals and preserving the peace and order in the game. In that regard, Earthrise is indeed aiming to position players as Player Killers vs. Player Defenders, with the Player Defenders backed by a law system and functional guards and the Player Killers having the item loot incentive to take the risks of the criminal trade.

While I wish them well, open world full loot PvP is still = game for gankers.

Plus, this game seems to indicate that the better PvPers will control the best resources. This game seems like pure PvP trying to disguise itself as something different.

Originally posted by Joker2240

Originally posted by green13

I always like that added element of danger that open pvp provides, but the ridiculous gankfests that make playing impossible (especially for new players) in eg. Darkfall is a turn off. So I'm very encouraged by this:

If you have ever played EvE think of the Earthrise territories like 1.0-0.0 space. The further out you get from civilization the less guards there are and also the closer you get to player owned territories. 

I played it for about a month.

I hope Earthrise doesn't suffer from Eve's silly bribery loophole. That was one of the deciding factors when it came to cancelling my sub. The ability to safely attack other players in "safe" zones for what for most long-time players is a pitiful amount of money.... that struck me as so stupid that I couldn't even begin to imagine what other stupidity might lay in store for me if I played any longer.

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

Originally posted by green13

I always like that added element of danger that open pvp provides, but the ridiculous gankfests that make playing impossible (especially for new players) in eg. Darkfall is a turn off. So I'm very encouraged by this:

While I wish them well, open world full loot PvP is still = game for gankers.

 Plus, this game seems to indicate that the better PvPers will control the best resources. This game seems like pure PvP trying to disguise itself as something different.

I think it depends, though if the system lives up to their claims, it looks promising to me.

I tried Darkfall. I could live with the open pvp and looting, though it wasn't a turn-on for me.

What I couldn't live with was all of the stupid, easily exploited "rules" surrounding pvp that generally resulted in the opposite of their intended effect.

Eg. same-faction players continually jumping in front of you so you get tagged as rogue so they can kill you without consequence.

Eg. use of towers with above trick to kill same-faction members.

Eg. same-faction players inviting you to a team, killing you, then looting your corpse (a stupid loophole - though I'll admit it made me laugh when it happened)

Eg. guilds declaring war on another guild just so they can kill a passing same-faction member, killing them, then undeclaring war.

etc. etc. etc. etc.

DF would have been better off just throwing their pvp rules to the wind and letting everyone have at it. As it was, it felt less like honest pvp and more like death-by-scumbag-lawyers.

Originally posted by PhelimReagh

Originally posted by green13

I always like that added element of danger that open pvp provides, but the ridiculous gankfests that make playing impossible (especially for new players) in eg. Darkfall is a turn off. So I'm very encouraged by this:

Open PvP poses one of the most serious challenges in MMO game design - how do you make a fun and exciting game where players have the freedom to totally wreck the game environment with destructive actions? Instead of prohibiting the PvP gameplay down to what is considered fair to everyone, we decided to allow players to act as criminals but also implemented numerous mechanics that encourage law-abiding players to profit from standing against criminals and preserving the peace and order in the game. In that regard, Earthrise is indeed aiming to position players as Player Killers vs. Player Defenders, with the Player Defenders backed by a law system and functional guards and the Player Killers having the item loot incentive to take the risks of the criminal trade.

While I wish them well, open world full loot PvP is still = game for gankers.

 

Plus, this game seems to indicate that the better PvPers will control the best resources. This game seems like pure PvP trying to disguise itself as something different.

How are they trying to disguise anything? They say pretty darn clearly that the game will be focused on PvP.