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Thrones of Chaos Interviews: Ownership Change: The True Story
We interviewed Colton Burgess of Loud Ant Software, Adam McCall of Nuanced Entertainment and Andrei Gireada, the original Producer of Mourning, to find out if the game truly has a fresh start.
By Dana Massey on October 06, 2006
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MMORPG.com is convinced Thrones of Chaos deserves a clean slate, find out why
Before returning it to the list, we spoke to Loud Ant CEO Colton Burgress, the CEO of Nuanced Entertainment Adam McCall and the original Producer of Mourning Andrei Gireada. The game's original owner refused to be interviewed for this piece. The three men clarified their roles, some of the history and confirmed that the project had indeed completely changed hands. "We currently have two of the Romanians from the old development team working as consultants," explained Colton Burgess of Loud Ant Software. "One of them is consulting on the server side and the other on the client side. It would have been impossible to continue using the assets without their help as much of the documentation was in a different language. Eventually though we will be fully versed and not need any outside help any longer." Andrei Gireada, the game's original producer, confirmed what Burgess told MMORPG.com. Since the sale, he had been retained to give advice to the new company, but the rest of the company - save one other - are not involved. "I have been giving advice to the new team," Gireada told us. "I pointed them the problems and the features that were not working." Gireada also told us that he will have no long term involvement in the project as he and his team plan to start in on a brand new MMOG project in the next few months.
"Nuanced Entertainment approached us four months ago and offered to form a partnership and offered to work on the game," Burgress told MMORPG.com. "However, what they promised never materialized, so we are not working with them any longer." Adam McCall, the CEO of Nuanced, confirmed this. "Currently, there is no involvement of Nuanced Entertainment in ToC, except for me," he told us. I had originally planned to bring a small group of dedicated members of my own team to Loud Ant, but I did not. I only brought myself."
"I can confirm my age of 18 years old," McCall explained. "My occupation is currently an assistant to the Project Manager." The game itself is being produced in the United States by a full independent development studio. "We currently have a team of around twenty professional developers," Burgess explained. "Some are working remotely within the USA, most are on location here in Portland." MMORPG.com was provided with resumes of each of the developers to confirm this.
"We were looking to get into the MMOG industry but did not want to build completely from scratch," he told us. "After having a few different projects evaluated by consulting firms that work within the same industry this was the one that ended up fitting our needs best. "This allows us to build upon some solid ideas and bring a professional touch to the existing assets and also allows us to enter the market fairly quickly and at much less expense." And what about those people who got taken in during the pre-order phase last time? "I feel bad for those that feel they were taken advantage of," Burgess admitted. "We are going to give all these people free life time accounts. In addition, we are going to have a trial or beta of some kind so that players can check out the title [for free] before it goes commercial." He went on to admit that he knows he has an uphill battle to gain people's trust and made a promise that he hopes will begin building it: "You won't be seeing any pre orders being taken unless it is through a notable publisher/distributor." With these assurances made, MMORPG.com is pleased to return Thrones of Chaos to clean the slate and return the game to our list. The new company deserves a chance to be judged on their own merits and we hope everyone gives them that.
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While I completely respect and admire mmorpg.com for going through the paces and doing their best to confirm this company, in all honesty... What the heck are you thinking?
I know it's not your jobs to be biased but these people ripped off, lied, fooled, bamboozooled and cadoozooled (I know, not a word but still...) lots of people, parts of your own community. At best I thought you'd wait until it was released and proven to be a solid, actual game.
I know, I know... this isn't my site and I'm just a nobody here and I'm probably way off here but it just feels so... I don't know, icky
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You are wrong about that. "These people" did not do any of that. As explained in the article (did you even read it?) it's a completely different group of people. The product was sold. Accusing them of any of the prior incidents is unfair and incorrect. I feel bad for them, because they really are fighting an uphill battle against people's (like you) misconceptions. The game itself had a lot of potential. I hope that with some fresh marketing and the free trials they are offering, it will finally become the game it could be.
There's really no need to be rude about it, is there? I didn't say this new company was the same as the old one and I don't want to throw this right back in your face but did you read the article? Former employee's are working for Loud Ant, whatever they are just consulting is besides the fact.
My only point was that it seems to me that despite the history of people being taken in by this particular title, it's back. What I was trying to get at was that it might have been better for the community to return the title when it's been released and proven to be legit, why take the chance a second time when so many were hurt the first go around?
That's all I meant, did not mean to offend you or anyone else with my comment, at all.
like your life?
Ill wait for that free trial offer before I trust anything this dangerous.
In a Related Story, Stephane Quilichini head producer of Dark and Light, reveals he is actually the woman his name looks like and thus gamers should give his title anoher look...
"The original Mourning project had been delisted by MMORPG.com in a famous incident involving developer abuse of our staff, among other things."
I wasn't around MMORPG.com back then, so I guess I missed this. What happened? Can anyone provide some insight/linkage? I loves me some good (or even icky--*especially* icky ;) ) drama. Thanks in advance!
The consulting phase is over and none of the Romanians are working with us in any form. The interview was done around 2 months ago.
Everyone working on the game is in the US.
We had to use the Romanians for a few months to sort out all the existing files and figure out how some of the tools worked.
Edit: Oh well, there you go. Loud Ant fixed my post before I even finished it! Egomonster is a nonentity now.
So in other words. Nobody who now is in the team was involved with the crap that happened around mourning back then?
Besides that goodluck. But i hope you do understand that you and the rest of them team have to gain trust back from the community.
I mean it's not like this guys work out of some Portland ghetto and have a website full of broken spyware links....Hmm....wait a sec
http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=1125+Nw+9th+Ave,+Portland,+OR
nice view you have there of the train tracks and I like what you have done with the dirt in front of the place...kudos.
There's really no need to be rude about it, is there? I didn't say this new company was the same as the old one and I don't want to throw this right back in your face but did you read the article? Former employee's are working for Loud Ant, whatever they are just consulting is besides the fact.
My only point was that it seems to me that despite the history of people being taken in by this particular title, it's back. What I was trying to get at was that it might have been better for the community to return the title when it's been released and proven to be legit, why take the chance a second time when so many were hurt the first go around?
That's all I meant, did not mean to offend you or anyone else with my comment, at all.
Completely understandable Shae...but I feel ok in informing people about the game being it is a entirely new team and they have assured us that a) they will not take any pre-orders for the game and b) they are going to take care of the Mourning subscribers that got mistreated.
Now as long as they don't accept pre-orders I don't see how anyone could be harmed before the launch of the game. As a site dedicated to reporting MMORPG news we just feel it is our duty to report on this title as it evolves - otherwise we would not be doing our jobs
In the event that LoudAnt were to back out on their work (ie start taking pre-orders) we would probably warn our readers and possibly remove the game again as much of the reason for the re-listing was based on all these facts.
As I see it if LoudAnt pulls this off and releases a good, playable product and the old subscribers get some compensation - there might actually be a silver lining to this horrible storm system after all
LOL. It gets better. Thier 'Business Address" is a CONDO.
http://www.livingchoices.com/home/homedetail.aspx?hid=535833477&refer=OODL&mid=6440
"What to make some money but have no talent? We at Loud Ant Software have a long track record of making money without ever leaving our homes pla...making MMOs. Join the talented team behind Mor..er..Thrones of Chaos today!
Interviews are done at the empty lot behind our Condo at midnight!"
In all fairness I would assume that many of the games that have been on our list were ran from home businesses or tiny offices with only a few people. I don't think that makes someone dishonest or means they will not do their best to get a quality product out the door. As long as a game meets our requirements we list it - even if it does not look to be from a multi million dollar company. The only issue here was "is the old team still in control of this game?" and after a much research we are confident they are not.
Actually I withdraw the ghetto comment since I did some more checking and it looks nice now...porblem still is that the suite they gave doesn't exist...there is no 242.
http://www.hoytrealtygroup.com/floorplans.html?cid=51
Yeah yeah..I'll take off the tinfoil hat as soon as they give me a real address
Thats ok, I don't think your the only one...
You guys should also get a kick out of this ad for their crack team of devs
http://burlington.craigslist.org/sof/?displayMode=printFriendly
Experienced Game Developers -- Mon Aug 28
We are looking for volunteers to work full-time or part-time to finish Thrones of Chaos. The title has been in development for 4 years and is around 90 percent finished; it has cost nearly 1.5 million to develop thus far. We are looking for highly skilled programmers who are up for a challenge. Looking For *C++ Programmers *Tools Programmers *Debug Programmers *Server Programmers Experience Preferences *Work with object oriented programming *More than 2.5 years of C/C++ Programming *Use of CVS/SVN *Game Development Experience preferred *Game Development Experience with networking included preferred *Massive Online Gaming Development would be a plus The rewards for participating are as follows: Anyone that works on the game gets a commercial license of our game engine.
We have been selling copies of this engine for 50,000 usd a piece and have sold 3 licenses. The experience you get from working on the game will also enable you to take the engine and make your own game. Upon commercial launch of the game, we will give five programmers a total of twenty-five percent of game earnings. We have 42,000 registered users awaiting the games release so this 5 percent a piece will add up to a nice sum of money rather quickly. 5 programmers will also have a fulltime job at Loud Ant software on commercial release of the title. We currently have 10-15 programmers already working on this project who are employees of Loud Ant Software. We are only look for 5-10 more. If you are interested in this, send me an email or get me on yahoo instant msger anytime.
Colton Burgess CEO LOUD ANT SOFTWARE Colton@loudant.com www.loudant.com no -- Please, no phone calls about this job! no -- Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests. no -- Reposting this message elsewhere is NOT OK.
I esp like the last part..You don't want people to know that your devs work for free? I wonder why. Anyway just some more funnyness from Mr Burgess.
EDIT: oops added linky
Guys,
The staff here is hooked and loooove the project called Mourning...Throne of Chaos. This is what they want as gamers. Can't blame them, I see EVE fans and Vanbois all the time, they are not praising this game, they are just hoping and really drooling over the features promised.
DRAMA all you want, when I see a fellow gamer happy and drooling about a game, with enought maturity and comon sense to recognize some flaws and be open to debate them (not trying to convince you as a Vanbois or EVEangelist would do, this is not debate, these subgroups try to change you).
Throne of Chaos is not for me, I will not play it, but if it turn out to be a jewel for some players, cool. They don't try to convince me I will like it. Unlike some others games...
Good luck...and the DRAMA is unavoidable I fear. Can't blame the folks.
However
you (mmorpg.com) may want to update the interview since it's two months old.
As soon as I saw Egomancer was still on the project, I pretty much closed the interview right then and there. He was the main reason (and Dave) why the game fell to pieces and full of lies (remember the porno client they used for the billing ...heh).
Ehhh...I dont know....I would just delete the part where Egomancer is helping LoudAnt. Egomancer and "Helping" just doesn't go together whatsoever and that paragraph may damned Loudant more than help them.
We went over this not long ago. Some links to refresh everyone's memory.
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=7171.35 - F13 Thread with lots of info on Loudant/Nuanced
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/78589/page/1 - Original return of mourning thread (lots of good info)
http://www.myspace.com/benkorb - Now cleaned up myspace of Loud Ant's (Origina) CEO. (It seems they have changed to some unknown guy now.)
LINK REMOVED (VIRUS ALERTS AT MYSPACE PAGE) - Now private myspace of nuanced's owner. I guess you can't see all the stuff about drugs and his job as a DJ.
http://shp.shortweb.com/benkorb.htm - Backup of (the original) Loud Ant CEO's original myspace.
If you check out the address of Loud Ant you will find that it's an old residential apartment building about to be converted into condos. I guess you should list it again if you think a bunch of drunk/high kids with little experience can put together a mmorpg. Of course it was also proven that these guys are just a front for the romanians who are still on board. When it was pointed out they quickly shutdown their forums. These guys are liars, and I never expect to see anything out of them.
http://number45.deviantart.com/ - Possibly the new CEO. Check out the next link and pay attention to the "45" stuff.
http://krelslibrary.org/emails.html - This happened in June so i guess Ben was replaced shortly after all that info about him was posted.
EDIT BY ADMIN: MrBoots your link to the myspace page was removed as users were reporting a Trojan Virus alert on that page.
Wow I feel sorry for anyone that fell for that. Maybe they will get a free T-Shirt at least. The engine is total crap, and you can license something better for much less. I wonder how long till they put up a donation link, and a merchandise shop.
It was oriented to pvp but with some original ideas for pve as well.
They saw that the game wasn't ready when it was released, so they decided to bring the servers down and work some more on the game first, but the american company that was allied with them was not working on the game, they were only funding it because the Romanians didn't have enough money, and those americans decided not to fund it anymore because they thought it wasn't worth it.
Then, an american company bought the licence, and the game started looking like a Everquest clone.
("Let's follow the recipe guys, let's be retards and copy what others do and add our little touch, it's FOTM so it has to be good! People prefer pve and graphics, so let's favor pve and leave pvp and gameplay farther behind.")
Then, luckily, this retarded company had to give up. (I forgot why, but other than making the game look prettier, the rest hindered the game.)
Well I think it's sad that no other Romanian is working on it now. I don't know about these two romanians that nobody seems to like, I don't know what they did, but the rest of the Romanians who worked on it at first, brought great ideas, and seemed competent. And they were Romanians for god sake, how many romanian MMORPGs did you see yet? Romanians would bring a touch of difference in the game. I'm tired of always seeing the same thing everywhere...
And I know the game won't be as good as it could have been because now the americans will probably degrade the quality of the game even further, but I hope the new guys won't be as bad as the last company who tried. I hope they will favor pvp, and do it like, or almost like how the Romanians wanted it at first. And I hope they will follow the original ideas. WoW sucks. It's popular because it's made by Battlenet. Everquest is a pve game, pve players like it, pvp players don't. How about you guys make THE PvP MMORPG that Mourning was supposed to be... Forget the traditional recipe... The game seemed perfect with the original ideas, then the americans stopping funding it, and then again americans thinking graphics and PvE are the only things that matter, made this game worse and worse.
I will give this game a try, there's still hope that it could be a good game, like it should have been at first, but I still fear that the americans will ruin it and follow the traditional recipe of "PvE first, PvP second" because they're scared of differences.
But on the other side, they're a new company with no past, so we can't predict what they'll do even though they're american. Maybe they'll lack experience. Or maybe they'll be great. Since there's no past to be based on, we can't judge yet, no matter what happened with the two previous companies.
I hope they will be great, and different from what all the other americans up to date ...removed from this game.
"You won't be seeing any pre orders being taken unless it is through a notable publisher/distributor."
Gee, what happened to "We will never ask for pre-orders or any money upfront before we put the game out."
I'm not gonna say I told ya so. I'm just gonna wait for the sh*t to hit the fan eventually.
EDIT: By the way Admin, since MMORPG.COM was promised they wouldn't take ANY pre-orders, you might get them to explain the "unless" part
"MMORPG.com was provided with resumes of each of the developers to confirm this."
should be end of story right there....you can hate all you want but the facts are the facts are the facts.. they have a team of professional devs that have worked on plenty of other bigger mmog's before.
and that craig list post is a complete forgery made by people who have way too much time on their hands..I mean it's so obvious its almost funny. who would actually care about doin sometihng so stupid? they must have 0 life.
"The engine is total crap, and you can license something better for much less."
I am sure you were given access to look at all the code and decide (which you could never do anyway unless you have maybe 10 years of professional coding experience) before you came up with that huh? don't talk out of your ass.. it just makes you look like a complete hater..seriously.
Heh, I can type out glorious reumes showing that I and my friends all have extensive backgrounds in quantum mechanics and nuclear fission. Guess what? Doesn't make it true and doesn't qualify me to run or build a nuclear reactor. So the resumes don't impress me one bit.
Do you have any way of proving that post is "a complete forgery"? No, you don't. Any more that LoudAssSoftware can prove they are not the same old crapmasters from the first and second incarnations of this crapfest "game".
Still waiting to here how they spin themselves out of the back-up from their original proclamation of no pre-orders ever being taken to an "unless" this happens. I cannot tell MMORPG.COM not to have them here. MMORPG.COM is only doing what it can from a business sense to be fair. I respect their position in this, although I disagree with LoudAssSoftware and Mourning getting any more press than they deserve.
Truth stings don't it?
Zorvan, you have just made yourself look worse than him. Actually after reading your post i just had to click your user info to see your age and to my shock it said 33, after a post like that i find it extremely hard to belive that you are an adult. Chill out, no point freaking out like that especially over somthing so little, from reading other posts by you i would have expected better from you.
Anyway, back on topic. Im giving the team a chance and i hope they do well, this is the type of game iv been waiting for, for a long time and if they do pull it off 100% legit then i will play it. I really hope they are legit and that they do well, it would be a terrible shame for all of these ideas to goto waste.
Garrik
Either you play a game or you don't, haven't you better things to do than chasing your tail debating the same things over and over.
Try the CB / OB , see how you like it, maybe there will be a trial too. Check out the refrences if and when it launches, do a background search of the publisher etc ... if you really give a crap.
If I was a betting man, you are going to regret this move...
Nothing good can come of this...
That makes it even better if that guy (Adam from nuanced) is hosting a trojan on his myspace. Sorry I only scanned the pages for content before linking them.
BTW who was that masked man that ripped off its player base? Ohh it wasnt these guys, they have different colored masks on. And look they have cookies!!!
One born everyday right...
More spin plz.
As long as they don't ask for credit card information. Beta , free trial or whatever, just don't give them your credit card number until after you have tried it and decide it's worth paying for.
Pop over to the Horizons forum if you don't think that can be a problem.
Our youngest person in any kind of leadership role is our art director who is 26.
When i actually preordered this game like years ago, they sent me an unlabeled CD in a black unlabeled case. They also NEVER REFUNDED ME for the malfunctional software on the CD.
And now hearing that the project changes hands, i really dont trust them despite it. I will never associate myself with them and would rather play Darkfall Online instead. DFO is a far better PvP game anyway, and its not even in beta yet, and i havent played it yet.
So... NO THANKS...
I understand you not trusting them, and they have alot to proove, but you're one of the guys up for a free lifetime membership and entry into the beta - what have you to loose?
It's a classic example of the old warning not to bite the hand that feeds you.
You can try checking with the county clerks office for that area or the local zoning authority to find out if such a business exists there.
Colton Burgess threatened to sue krelslibrary.org twice - first for using ingame screenshots as site banners, second for posting articles which he considered to be libel. How articles created by simply compiling quotes from sites and forums is libel I don't know, I guess if you write something about someone that they don't like, it's libel these days.
Then when he started posting on MMORPG.com, he denied the second lawsuit threat when asked about it... it never happened apparently...
Loudant is only in for this to make quick bucks and then escape to bahamas...
Lepidus makes assumptions based on the stories of proven "3 time losers" without an independent investigation, to proclaim that this is "the true story". Everyone he spoke to has a vested interest in gaining some credibility for their "project" and they've gained a foothold on mmorpg.com FIRST. Now they can continue to peel the onion with other sites using this one as reference. mmorpg.com is not serving or protecting the gaming community with what they know is true by opening up the gate that they should be guarding against this kind of deception.
I don't think that the few ad dollars this site is making from this is worth the trememdous loss of credibility. Selling out to help spread missinformation is just plain wrong.
What a shame. I think we all expected more.
You make a good point in that MMORPG.COM has a responsibility to do a much more thorough job before they give out this kind of an endorsement. It seems that everyone who was anyone in the old project is still involved with it one way or another, but at the same time still claiming that they aren't really that involved.
It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me and a really crappy job by the journalist to be taking all this at face value. This isn't simply a vapourware title that never came out, this is the evolution of a con where players were scammed and lost money that was never returned.
So we're basing our story on the fact that the con artists are asked if they're involved in the new con and reply: "yes but not that much" I think the logical conclusion is that this is a legit project and it deserves our support because these guys said so.
Jesus. Let's pass a hat around to buy an ad banner, and make these guys do a news story endorsing Mark Foley as a safe bet for Boyscout Commissioner.
So Nuanced is part of Loud Ant...
Anyways, maybe it's just me but I have a hard time wanting to put my faith into Loud Ant, a company developing/publishing a game whose only other known products include a registry doctor and anti-spam software that evidentally don't exist as evidence on their site.
And why do I find this weird?
"Nuanced Entertainment approached us four months ago and offered to form a partnership and offered to work on the game," Burgress told MMORPG.com. "However, what they promised never materialized, so we are not working with them any longer."
And then see this? http://www.delving.com/pn/html/modules.php?name=News&new_topic=5
"I received an e-mail today from the CEO of Age of Mourning.... what?.... oh?... it was a mass mailing...
Well, anyway, he's what my buddy Colton sent me.
Greetings,
As we get closer to the re launch of the closed beta for Age of Mourning, I wanted to get in touch with the people that have been here since the start of the games development.
We have recently brought in a investor that will ensure the successful launch of Age of Mourning. We are currently working daily to bring the title back online. I hate giving exact dates as to when it will be done, however I can confidently say it will be sometime within the next 6 months. The closed beta testing will start sooner then this. Most likely sometime in April.
We also completed an extensive interview with RPGvault which will be published sometime next week; I will post the link once I have it.
Since we are in the process of updating the game and making changes, I would like to hear from you in regards to what you would like to see changed, added or just removed all together. Any and all feedback would be great, and I will respond to each one of your questions/concerns. We want to make a game you want to play and would like as much input as possible, both good and bad.
Our forum is back up and can be found here: http://realmsoftorment.net/forums
Please email me anytime or respond to this at: Link
Colton Burgess
CEO
Age of Mourning
www.ageofmourning.com
BOOM HEADSHOT
Nice Find!
I wish them the very best of luck and look forward to seeing some proper development on this title in the months to come.
Good Luck Loud Ant
Might I ask why both in the article and on LoudAnt's site, it states they center in Portland, Oregon - yet according to WHOIS the contacts for both ageofmourning.com and realmsoftorment.net are listed under Colton Burgess located in Los Angeles, California?
They should also tell why they are just taking this guy's word for it. He isn't obligated to tell the truth.
Colton and company were so determined to be listed and have a spot here. Next time, they should be careful what they wish for.
I dont trust that they have any records of my transaction. In fact, i bet they dont even know that i recieved a CD. How am i supposed to prove that i was ripped off if they dont keep any records?
They didnt keep records because they didnt want to feel responsible to refund their ripped off customers. Would you keep records if you were a sham?
Why are they associating themselves with those pricks? Hire a fucking romanian translater if you cant read the code. Oh how about this, make a new better game instead of picking up a shitty project made by a shitty company that stole my money and rubbed my face in it. Screw you guys.
Darkfall is a superior game anyway, in all respects. And i actually RESPECT and TRUST the Darkfall devs.
EDIT -- okey after reading the previous posts...
Im extremely annoyed that Loud Ant is yet another sham by these same guys. Take them off the list and recant yourselves, MMORPG.com. I will forgive you, MMORPG.com, but i will NOT forgive the shamsters.
You've made some very good points there, Ammon777. All the screens they have here are apparently from the game before they supposedly got it. On their website, they're still struggling to draw and animate elfs
Uhh thanks. I just want my 39.95 back. I dont need a lifetime ticket to a worthless game.
Note: i remember this game in beta when i did play (for 2 hours). It was horrid.
Just read this article, and whomever said "There is one born everyday" is right on the money...
Razorback's post literally made me 'LOL'...
Also, such grandiose promises as "Free accounts for life" already point to a scam in the making... Businesses do not offer compensation that well exceeds the damage ensued... Also, do you really think there are records for the people who got ripped off? Do you honestly think these crooks used Quickbooks to document their scam?
My overall opinion of MMORPG.com just went down the frickin' toilet... How much of a kickback is this website taking for even slightly advertising this game?
It is becoming more and more evident as each day passes that MMORPG.com's standards for advocation of upcoming games directly tied to the check the company writes...
This is the first time i have heard of any thing about this game but the fact that mmorpg.com seems to be so for it and behind it supporting every move this "new managment" makes is absurde ! ... The games like Divergence-online that are on here for one day then pulled cause the "screen shots are not in game" is horse shit when they let people scam their customers or at least try ! I would rather see a game in development and contribute to the ideas and thoughts of games like that then too read about how this scam artist game has turned over a new leaf and become a born again good business man ... bull shit if you got a free buck off some people FROM THIS SITE before ... you are going to keep trying to get free money from this site if they let you ... let alone ENDORESE (sp) you ! ...
Poor show MMORPG.com but then again you guys probably sell the gold too ! ;]
(wonder how long it will take before this gets deleted !)
seems to be up and up but i still dont trust it as back when age of mourning was in development i got this email from colton burgess.
Friday, February 17, 2006
Greetings,
As we get closer to the re launch of the closed beta for Age of Mourning, I wanted to get in touch with the people that have been here since the start of the games development.
We have recently brought in a investor that will ensure the successful launch of Age of Mourning. We are currently working daily to bring the title back online. I hate giving exact dates as to when it will be done, however I can confidently say it will be sometime within the next 6 months. The closed beta testing will start sooner then this. Most likely sometime in April.
We also completed an extensive interview with RPGvault which will be published sometime next week; I will post the link once I have it.
Since we are in the process of updating the game and making changes, I would like to hear from you in regards to what you would like to see changed, added or just removed all together. Any and all feedback would be great, and I will respond to each one of your questions/concerns. We want to make a game you want to play and would like as much input as possible, both good and bad.
Our forum is back up and can be found here: http://realmsoftorment.net/forums
Please email me anytime or respond to this at: http://www.realmsoftorment.net/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=21168
Colton Burgess
CEO
Age of Mourning
colton@ageofmourning.com
www.ageofmourning.com
Yahoo Messenger: ageofmourning00
well, I don't know, I was one of those taken by the pre-order of mourning. Heck I was a huge defender of it in the past as many here probably remember... I was burned.. would I look at this title again? well after reading what I have and the MMORPG staff actually looking into the facts (IE resumes etc ) there seems hope.
Hmm.. offering us free life time subscriptions? Well if anything, I don't see this as a gimic, you guys have to relize there were only about 70 of us that actually pre-bought the game and didn't ask for our money back. Again I was one, hoping for a light at the end of the tunnel. However, an offer like this is to fix the past, I can see it being a very likly possiblity. 70 people out of possible thousands isn't a huge hit. Sure, its bandwith and what not, but to make peace with the past, This is a good step to me.. In a way thou, I feel bad to accept such an offer. While I did loose my invesment, it really wasn't a huge amount, but if it is offered, I will definitly look into the title.
Now to the new dev team,
Want my thoughts on what I seen before I left? Beyond the obvious empty game (IE no mobs etc) the world was pretty cool... the clipping was horrible, (thou I think lag had something to do with that) the skill trees would have been fantastic if they actually were finished and worked, but the big killer was again, the lag.. heavy code work needed there to fix that issue possibly, even after they said "it's fixed," it still wasn't.. so that to me was the worst part ... finally, the art was "ok" nothing fantastic, my suggestion, upgrade it some, sadly this might cost a bit more time and money, but if you are truly investing into making a top notch mmo, this needs help, they have the 3d models good, but the skin graphics are way sub par. Other then that , it definitly had potential, what I seen in the release back then reminded me of a alpha/beta, but at least it worked to a point, it definitly has potential, and if your going to pvp rout and do it right. There is a huge market waiting for it, however with Warhammer on the horizon, it will be a tough market to get into.
I to wish you luck as well, if you want any info, drop me a PM and I would be happy to stop by a forum or email and go into details. Mourning I thought had real promise, to bad it was run by some shaddy people. I don't blame the devs as much as I blame the investor.
chaintm
Ive never seen so many one sided, misinformed, half assed replys on one thread in my life.
I dont care if this game makes it or not. It has a chance. Why wouldnt it?
Oh...because a few of you think your the whole industry?
Close to 12,000 members on this site and WoW has how many subscribers? Catch my drift? It doesnt REALLY matter what you say about any game. Even if every single one of you had bad things to say about the old company, if this game turns out to be good, IT WILL SELL.
None of you know for a fact if its misinformation or not. Using the same logic, if I chose to be as skeptical as many of you are, I could consider posters like FREEB with 8 posts an owner of a competing mmo board, who would like nothing better than to spread misinformation about mmorpg.com.
Too many of you are getting far too wound up about a game that may or may not make it and even if it does, how many years away would the release be?
Please, kick your feet up and take a load off. The end of the world isnt here yet.