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  Gorwe

Elite Member

Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1904

6/24/13 10:00:20 PM#21
I just wanted to say that I fucking hate Ward!

I just hope that he stays the fuck away from Alaitoc, High Elves and Wood Elves! Otherwise...bleergh! Why can't bad man go away? WHY?!?!?!!? It's not like He's talented either...
  Volkmar

Novice Member

Joined: 3/04/04
Posts: 2508

6/25/13 4:18:49 AM#22
Originally posted by Nonderyon

No, dont mistaken, i am happy when they got its own faction, but there is a thing what needs answear:

- why would the marines and sisters fight againts eachother when all of them fight for the emperor? (no, dont say DoW, thats too weak for answear :D because that game is created for that prupose "king of the hill" againts all "factions" with weak explanation <- imperium of man is a faction, marines and guards and sorositas just a groups in it).

 

In-lore it is really easy.

The Adeptus Sororitas are the military branch of the Ordo Hereticus of the Inquisition which, as the name implies, occupies itself of finding heretics, traitors, illegal psykers and that sort of thing.

If there would be suspicious of a certain Space Marine Captain going heretic, the Sisters would go and try to kick his ass, pronto. The line between heretic and "corrupted by chaos" is quite thin actually, so even if the Sisters work for the Ordro Hereticus, they have a great deal of work involving Chaos cultists and demons of course.

Why would a Space Marine Captain go heretic? for a thousands motives, they are a very independent-minded people, having their own planets and being part of the Empire, yes, but at the same time they consider themselves the Chosen of the Emperor and so above everyone else BUT the Emperor. Some Captains might start thinking heretical thoughts etc.... plus half the Chapters went with Horus at the time, so it is not that there isn't a precedent eh?

Why would the Space marines attack the Sisters? If they need to do X on planet Y and the sisters are stopping them because the Inquisition commanded them to do Z. The Space Marines might have to complete their mission regardless of opposition from ANY front.

But it is true that the two are much more likely to cooperate than to fight.

In lights of what Miguel said, however, that they do not much care if factions allies with each other and there are even tools in game to do that, then I now changed my stance and see the Sisters as part of the Inquisition or Imperial faction.

The other chamber militants of the Inquisition are the Grey Knights for the Ordo Malleus (specialists vs Demons) and the Deathwatch for Ordo Xenos (specialists versus aliens). The Deathwatch are just Space Marines, they are even taken from other Space Marines chapters. The Grey Knights are special space marines, own chapter, own rules, very psychic oriented and scary bad asses. This would not make for very good companions though, Deathwatch marines are just... well.. marines and while the Grey Knights are different, they tend to be few in numbers and highly squad-oriented as their psychic powers are enhanced the more of them are around

The main Imperial forces, however, are so vast. A guardsman is no match for a space marine, though, so maybe they could be a second F2P option? With the Sisters as main playing options supported by various Officio Assassinorum agents, commisars. elite guardsman and Grey Knights when needed. As members of the Inquisition, the Sisters of Battle are far more likely to fight side by side with the Imperial Guard than the Space marines as the latter tend to be more reclusive and private.

"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"

- My New World of Darkness Tabletop RPG Blog:
http://realmofroleplay.com/?cat=19

  Ehliya

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/13/06
Posts: 190

 
OP  6/25/13 7:16:59 PM#23

Thanks for the additional information on alliances.  I do hope that makes it into reality.  They can "hard code" that certain factions would never ally with each other, but allow other factions to either fight each other or ally at their discretion. 

An easy way to do this is to make alliances zone and time dependent.  In other words, let's assume the Sisters of Battle are part of an Inquisition Faction.  As such -

 

* they would be hard-coded that they could NEVER ally with Chaos or Orks

* they could ally with any others, however those alliances would be: a) zone specific; b) time limited.

In other words, the Inquisition faction could decide to ally with the Space Marines to fight together in Zone X as allies; this would be for a certain time, which could be renewed.

This would add a political dimension to the game.  Ideally, each faction would also have sub-factions.

  Shadin

Novice Member

Joined: 9/09/04
Posts: 297

6/25/13 7:27:26 PM#24

Well, I hope they will be available.. Personally, though my knowledge is limited, I know of no female space marines and I for one would welcome giving females playing the game the option to play as, well, females.

 

As the game market is growing more women find their way into different genres of computer games, and while they can play as males, would you like being forced to play as a female? I wouldn't, personally, for the sole reason of not being able to inject myself into the character as well as I could playing a male.

 

I fully admit being biased, however, as I know my wife prefer playing female characters.

Regardless, there are times where - as a developer - you have to let options come before lore. And to be frank, in this case it's actually a minor detail in lore anyway imo. That or include the only group of female warrios according to official canon.

 

  freakishbean

Novice Member

Joined: 1/30/08
Posts: 176

6/25/13 7:40:37 PM#25
I honestly believe that the Space Marines shouldn't get their *own* faction. They should be a sub-class of characters for an IMPERIUM faction. Choose Faction - Imperium. Class structures available - Space Marine (with all applicable specialty branches - IE, tech marine, chaplain, librarian, etc..), Inquisitorial (Inquisitor, Sister of Battle, etc...), Imperial Guardsmen, Ogryn, Stormtrooper, etc... 

Needing is Wanting...
Wanting is Coveting...
Coveting is Sinning...
I am SO going to Hell.

  Volkmar

Novice Member

Joined: 3/04/04
Posts: 2508

6/26/13 3:36:49 AM#26
Originally posted by freakishbean
I honestly believe that the Space Marines shouldn't get their *own* faction. They should be a sub-class of characters for an IMPERIUM faction. Choose Faction - Imperium. Class structures available - Space Marine (with all applicable specialty branches - IE, tech marine, chaplain, librarian, etc..), Inquisitorial (Inquisitor, Sister of Battle, etc...), Imperial Guardsmen, Ogryn, Stormtrooper, etc... 

Problem: the imperial faction would then give you a lot more bang for your buck.

Pound by pound, selecting any other faction would be BAD because they do not have the sheer variety of classes and type of characters the Imperial faction will have.

As they are selling this stuff in a shop, it makes no sense to advantage one over the other.

In the tabletop game (though I am not familiar with recent events) the Empire is always broken in several factions, like Space Marines, Imperial Guard and Inquisition.

Keeping it this way make sure each faction give you roughly the same content without having one dominating the rest.

I guess they could keep all of them in the same faction, but you need to buy them separately in the shop, though I like it more if they keep all separate. There is no rule in the Tabletop game that stops Imperial factions from fighting one another.

"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"

- My New World of Darkness Tabletop RPG Blog:
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  Nonderyon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/30/07
Posts: 171

6/27/13 10:21:44 AM#27

yes, its give variety and little chaotic too, but i agree with the thinking, i mean usualy they are with each other and not againts and this way easier, But gives a little wierd look :) just imagine a band of good friends make a raid party with a spacemarine terminator, an imperial guard comissar, canoness from the bleeding heart, a fabrication general from adeptus mechanicus, and finaly a Marshal from adeptus arbites.

yes, i didnt want to see this way honestly :D

 

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