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Shroud of the Avatar Forum » General Discussion » Say Something Nice about SotA

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  InsaneMembrane

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Joined: 9/17/13
Posts: 146

 
OP  11/03/13 7:48:04 PM#1

We should say something nice about Shroud of the Avatar. Let us prove to the rest of the online community that MMORPG are not just a group of haters and find something nice to say for once.

Today, I shall compliment the combat system concept. At first, I thought this would be terrible, but slowly over time as I get more information it becomes much more interesting to me. Even the fact that I am an evil foaming at the mouth PK, this system still does have its appeal, and I can't wait to test it out in Alpha.

 

 

  Ender4

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Posts: 2056

11/03/13 7:53:29 PM#2

I don't have much in the way of expectations for this game but Garriott always will have a special place in my heart. I cut my teeth on Akalabeth and later the Ultima games and they really helped drive my love of games. UO was unfortunately one of the most disappointing games of my gaming career and I am afraid to get pumped for SOTA because of that.

  InsaneMembrane

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Joined: 9/17/13
Posts: 146

 
OP  11/03/13 7:56:30 PM#3
Originally posted by Ender4

I don't have much in the way of expectations for this game but Garriott always will have a special place in my heart. I cut my teeth on Akalabeth and later the Ultima games and they really helped drive my love of games. UO was unfortunately one of the most disappointing games of my gaming career and I am afraid to get pumped for SOTA because of that.

 

The really good thing about this game is that it is not really anywhere close to UO in terms of a game. 

Key differences:

SotA actually has a story, lol.

Combat is optional, so us mad PKs can't get you unless you opt into the combat system via game mechanics.

 

Those two points alone make a totally different and superior game.

  Swedish_Chef

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Joined: 8/26/13
Posts: 225

Bort bort bort!

11/03/13 8:21:38 PM#4

Well, it's... uhhh....

It's....

It's not Ultima 9!

That's about as positive as I can get about anything involving Greedy Garriott at this point.

  InsaneMembrane

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Joined: 9/17/13
Posts: 146

 
OP  11/03/13 8:32:36 PM#5
Originally posted by Swedish_Chef

Well, it's... uhhh....

It's....

It's not Ultima 9!

That's about as positive as I can get about anything involving Greedy Garriott at this point.

Well at least that is something, it isn't Ultima 9 :)

 

  IridescentOrk

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Joined: 5/27/13
Posts: 160

11/03/13 8:45:30 PM#6
F2P :)

gameplay > graphics

  superconducting

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Joined: 4/21/13
Posts: 705

11/03/13 10:14:16 PM#7

The reason we are saying things is because we want things to change for the better.

 

I have been a supporter of SotA for the longest time. In fact, all my previous posts have defended Garriott & co when others attacked him. I was in fact ON YOUR SIDE many times. But I have now seen the light.

I simply cannot condone this level of cash-shoppery and money-grubbing. And you shouldn't either.

 

If we say nothing we lose- the consumer just gets stepped on. But if we say something (politely), we might, just might effect change.

So why don't you join us then in voicing our concerns to the SotA team? You of all people should be the one to do it given that they ousted you from their community.

  InsaneMembrane

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Joined: 9/17/13
Posts: 146

 
OP  11/03/13 10:38:36 PM#8
Originally posted by superconducting

The reason we are saying things is because we want things to change for the better.

 

I have been a supporter of SotA for the longest time. In fact, all my previous posts have defended Garriott & co when others attacked him. I was in fact ON YOUR SIDE many times. But I have now seen the light.

I simply cannot condone this level of cash-shoppery and money-grubbing. And you shouldn't either.

 

If we say nothing we lose- the consumer just gets stepped on. But if we say something (politely), we might, just might effect change.

So why don't you join us then in voicing our concerns to the SotA team? You of all people should be the one to do it given that they ousted you from their community.

 

I can understand your point of view, especially if this continued AFTER the game went live(or silly win items before it goes live also), creating a microtransaction base for pay to win. However at the moment I choose to simply believe they are raising money.

Keeping on the OT of saying something nice about SotA: Who is to say they didn't give me fair warning that what I was doing was going to get me banned? They gave me plenty of warnings, probably too many, and their rules even if I don't like them. 

 

  Braindome

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Joined: 12/06/11
Posts: 568

11/03/13 10:49:21 PM#9

It seems to be attempting to take MMO concepts back to RPG roots with single player experiences highlighted by multiplayer "experiences" instead of being a chore or grind and more like an adventure.

Whether the living world can be fleshed out to be coherent and have depth has yet to be seen, but the concept is sound and is truly the direction the genre needs to be going in.

 

  InsaneMembrane

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Joined: 9/17/13
Posts: 146

 
OP  11/03/13 11:04:55 PM#10
Originally posted by Braindome

It seems to be attempting to take MMO concepts back to RPG roots with single player experiences highlighted by multiplayer "experiences" instead of being a chore or grind and more like an adventure.

Whether the living world can be fleshed out to be coherent and have depth has yet to be seen, but the concept is sound and is truly the direction the genre needs to be going in.

 

 

Thanks Braindome, I agree also that is the direction the genre needs to be headed. I hope they can push past these Gen-Y players and get this done!

  User Deleted
11/03/13 11:18:30 PM#11

I'm really looking forward to this game. in fact, it's the first game I've ever supported through Kickstarter. I still have faith in Garriott.

One of the best things about this game is that is doesn't have the stench of John Smedley, Mark Jacobs, or Brad McQuiaid anywhere near it. That alone makes it worth watching.

  Kwipsicles

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Joined: 11/04/13
Posts: 6

11/04/13 1:56:56 PM#12

Say something nice about this game...?

I hope it succeeds well enough to make Gariott enough money to go to space and stay there. :)

  Bilgato

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Joined: 7/25/11
Posts: 23

I do all my own artwork with MS Paint.
No, fer reals...why would I lie about something like that?

11/04/13 5:02:25 PM#13
Not a lot of games offer a 'class-less' system, I've killed off and re-rolled a lot of toons  due to not being happy with the mechanics or game-play.
  InsaneMembrane

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OP  11/04/13 7:58:20 PM#14
Originally posted by Bilgato
Not a lot of games offer a 'class-less' system, I've killed off and re-rolled a lot of toons  due to not being happy with the mechanics or game-play.

Yeah, this is true. A lot of more recent games have started microtransactions to get this done too which is not very cool at all either.

  Neo_Viper

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If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

11/05/13 4:13:39 AM#15

Well, beside the "pay to win" housing system which still makes me worry, there are many good points to this game.

- Lord British, along with Tracy Hickman for the story!

- No classes (BIG plus for me).

- Sandbox.

- No "!" over the heads, but talk to the NPCs.

So even if the housing thing ruins the multiplayer part, I hope the story mode will be solid and as fun as the old Ultima RPG were. If just that is true, it will be worth owning this game.

 

Originally posted by Ender4

I don't have much in the way of expectations for this game but Garriott always will have a special place in my heart. I cut my teeth on Akalabeth and later the Ultima games and they really helped drive my love of games. UO was unfortunately one of the most disappointing games of my gaming career and I am afraid to get pumped for SOTA because of that.

When Akalabeth was released, you were 8 years old.

An 8 year old kid owning a computer (back then it was utterly expensive), able to find Akalabeth which had only a very limited sale (and there was no broadband back then to download stuff) and playing such a rather complex game... I'm impressed.

My computer is better than yours.

  iridescence

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Posts: 1175

11/05/13 4:48:38 AM#16
Pretty much backed it to play the single player story and am still hopeful that that'll be good. If the MMO part is also decent it'll just  be a bonus for me at least as a sandbox to play around in until Pathfinder Online Early Enrollment  comes out  
  tom_gore

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11/05/13 5:08:18 AM#17
First MMO in ages that actually seems to want to return the RPG into MMORPGs.
  Neo_Viper

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If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

11/05/13 6:37:25 AM#18
Originally posted by tom_gore
First MMO in ages that actually seems to want to return the RPG into MMORPGs.

Possibly because it's not exactly a -MMO- RPG, but maybe that's the price to pay and I really don't mind. Actually, to me, if I'm able to play "privately" - more or less - with likeminded people and friends, it's a big plus for immersion.

My computer is better than yours.

  InsaneMembrane

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OP  11/05/13 8:14:29 AM#19
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by tom_gore
First MMO in ages that actually seems to want to return the RPG into MMORPGs.

Possibly because it's not exactly a -MMO- RPG, but maybe that's the price to pay and I really don't mind. Actually, to me, if I'm able to play "privately" - more or less - with likeminded people and friends, it's a big plus for immersion.

 

Yeah, the OPO feature which will match you with friends or a group of likeminded players is the jewel of this game. If that works well, it will probably make or break it.

  Bilgato

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I do all my own artwork with MS Paint.
No, fer reals...why would I lie about something like that?

11/05/13 2:59:29 PM#20

I think the age grouping is something that will make a huge difference.

How many games do you find that you might like but the average age of the players is 12 to 16 or 16 to 21?

I'm 45, I have nothing against younger players but also have nothing in common with them either, and I'm sure most of them don't have much in common with a guy their dad's age. There are a lot of decent younger players but in general I get on better with the "over 30" crowd.

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