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Destiny Forum » General Discussion » FYI Destiny is NOT a MMO Shooter.

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  MMOExposed

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OP  2/25/13 7:35:33 PM#1

Just want to make sure this is said, so people don't get misinformed by the media and fans.

 

but the developers themselves have said its not a MMO. It's a shared world shooter. Not MMO shooter.

 

i see lots of media sites spreading this misinformation that this is a MMO, when the people making it said its not.

 

now it even has its own forum here on a MMO site which will cause even more confusion and misleading.

not sure if that's intended.

  Snakester95

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2/25/13 7:43:11 PM#2
In the listing it does state that it's a shared world shooter just so you're aware.

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  MMOExposed

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OP  2/25/13 8:14:05 PM#3
Originally posted by Snakester95
In the listing it does state that it's a shared world shooter just so you're aware.

But it's not a MMO.

  majinant

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2/25/13 8:23:26 PM#4

Is it massive? Is it multiplayer? Is it online?

What is so hard to understand here?

  Venomania

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2/25/13 8:29:03 PM#5
It's annoying when people try and say "It's not an MMO", it IS an MMO. Marketing mumble jumble doesn't change facts. It's an mmo. There are plenty of MMO's that have variations on instanced worlds. Seemless, instanced zones/maps. I could describe every MMO as something else,  make some fancy pants none MMO term for what type of game they are. Lol Coined the term MOBA, it caught on and now it is a genre. This is not the same situation, this game doesnt do anything different enough to warent  anew genre. It is an mmo-shooter. 
  OG_Zorvan

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2/25/13 8:32:05 PM#6
Originally posted by Venomania
It's annoying when people try and say "It's not an MMO", it IS an MMO. Marketing mumble jumble doesn't change facts. It's an mmo. There are plenty of MMO's that have variations on instanced worlds. Seemless, instanced zones/maps. I could describe every MMO as something else,  make some fancy pants none MMO term for what type of game they are. Lol Coined the term MOBA, it caught on and now it is a genre. This is not the same situation, this game doesnt do anything different enough to warent  anew genre. It is an mmo-shooter. 

Aeon of Strife mod for Starcraft was the first moba and the first to use the term. Where you get League of Legends inventing anything is beyond me.

 

As for the "mmo/notmmo" argument, this site stopped catering to actual mmos a long time ago, so no point in even arguing about it.

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  Silverbarr

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2/25/13 8:36:46 PM#7

In essence Destiny is an MMORPG, after all it will have a massive amount of players, it will be multiplayer and it will be online. If anything I find it an attempt to bring a Guild Wars style game to the FPS genre. It could therefore be a great attempt, or end up being really messy.

 

It also depends on your methods to determine whether Guild Wars is an MMO also, personally I believe it can be classified as so.

 

Personally I hope that it does great, because it sure looks great - but who knows how much hype has been invested.

 

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  MMOExposed

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OP  2/25/13 9:32:16 PM#8
Originally posted by majinant

Is it massive? Is it multiplayer? Is it online?

What is so hard to understand here?

So is BF3, so is CoD, so is MAG

 

are any of them MMO shooters as well?

 

hey well I guess MMORPG.com staff need to add them to the list.

 

  MMOExposed

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OP  2/25/13 9:33:49 PM#9
Originally posted by Venomania
It's annoying when people try and say "It's not an MMO", it IS an MMO. Marketing mumble jumble doesn't change facts. It's an mmo. There are plenty of MMO's that have variations on instanced worlds. Seemless, instanced zones/maps. I could describe every MMO as something else,  make some fancy pants none MMO term for what type of game they are. Lol Coined the term MOBA, it caught on and now it is a genre. This is not the same situation, this game doesnt do anything different enough to warent  anew genre. It is an mmo-shooter. 

Developers say its not a MMO so it's not a MMO.

have you played the game yet?

how can you say it's a MMO when the people that makes it said it isn't?

  Laromuss

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2/25/13 9:36:32 PM#10
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by majinant

Is it massive? Is it multiplayer? Is it online?

What is so hard to understand here?

So is BF3, so is CoD, so is MAG

 

are any of them MMO shooters as well?

 

hey well I guess MMORPG.com staff need to add them to the list.

 

it depends on the inner workings of the game.  If the game is similar to Defiance (Trions MMOFPS) but based on a Physical Lobby System (Hub towns etc) Then Destiny can be classified as an mmofps.  If its just something similar to Fable 2 where players can drop in a out of a persistent world up to 4 -8 players then its just a multiplayer FPS with a persistent world similar to Planet Side 2.

  Alberel

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2/25/13 9:48:38 PM#11
It sounds like it's an FPS version of the original Guild Wars with hub towns and instanced adventure areas. If that's the case then it's not an MMO as it's not 'massively multiplayer' if you can only play with a single group at a time (and FYI the 'massively' refers to the number of players that can interact, not the size of the game). Bungie have stated this is not an MMO and ANet stated the original GW was not an MMO so I think it's safe to say it isn't an MMO since it doesn't fit the definition.
  dorksmetal

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2/25/13 9:57:53 PM#12
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by majinant

Is it massive? Is it multiplayer? Is it online?

What is so hard to understand here?

So is BF3, so is CoD, so is MAG

 

are any of them MMO shooters as well?

 

hey well I guess MMORPG.com staff need to add them to the list.

 

Are BF3 and CoD and MAG Shared World games.. can you jst hop on CoD and play the campain with peopel you dont know without a choice in the matter... stop being a dick about it.  its not an mmo but you dont need to be rude. 

  Jockan

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2/25/13 10:13:49 PM#13
Destiny is a mmo and I will be the first to offically tag it as the next WoW killer.


  Snakester95

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2/26/13 11:21:38 PM#14
It's now confirmed to be a third person shooter, still a shared world shooter though.

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  EthanC

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2/26/13 11:24:35 PM#15

If you want a true mmo shooter, none of this faked business, you should checkout divergence and help support the project!

www.Divergence-Online.com

www.Divergence-Online.com

  Vannor

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2/26/13 11:29:37 PM#16
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Developers say its not a MMO so it's not a MMO.

I hate it when people try to use this kind of logic... or lack of logic.

If I came up to you with a puppy and told you it was a kitten... is it a kitten?

  MMOExposed

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OP  2/27/13 6:14:19 AM#17
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Developers say its not a MMO so it's not a MMO.

I hate it when people try to use this kind of logic... or lack of logic.

If I came up to you with a puppy and told you it was a kitten... is it a kitten?

funny statement.

So you saying its illogically to quote the Developers, aka the people who made the game, who are telling the public its NOT A MMO, but to listen to media and fans who havnt even seen the game and already calling its a MMO, which the developers who have gameplay Info, have stated its not a MMO ?

 

I assume you are being sarcastic, but didnt put a smiley. Which is what confuses me.

  BeansnBread

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2/27/13 6:19:27 AM#18

Noooooo!!!! Another genre battle...

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  sacredfool

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2/27/13 6:26:35 AM#19

*sigh* if there are no "massive" amounts of people in a zone then it's not an MMO. 

Lets take PoE as an example. You can have loads of people online at the same time, they can interact with eeach other if they want but no zone has a "massive" amount of people in it - so it's an online multiplayer hack'n'slash but not an MMO. This game from what i read is a bit like PoE in terms of player interaction.


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  Vannor

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2/27/13 6:13:34 PM#20
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Developers say its not a MMO so it's not a MMO.

I hate it when people try to use this kind of logic... or lack of logic.

If I came up to you with a puppy and told you it was a kitten... is it a kitten?

I assume you are being sarcastic, but didnt put a smiley. Which is what confuses me.

Yes, I meant it light heartedly. Not really sarcastic, but I wasn't trying to be nasty. :)

It used to be cool to be an MMO.. these days it isn't. A lot of companies are diliberatly trying to sound like they arn't making an MMO because they don't want to be subject to the harsh and exaggerated expectations that consumers have for MMOs these days. Will Destiny be an MMO? Well.. it sure sounds a lot like an MMO.. as in gameplay wise, just with less people. MMO is a genre now with all the usual genre conventions and connotations, it doesn't just mean lots of avatars in the same online space even if many insist it does because they are being far too literal.

I have no idea what Destiny will be like. None of us do yet. That's why I made that silly post. BUT what the devs are describing is an MMO with less players in the same space.. and then saying it's not an MMO. Sure, it might not be massive group gaming but as far as game features and what you do, gameplay, so far it sounds exactly like an MMO shooter. When everything they are saying other than saying it's not an MMO makes the game easily fit into the MMO genre, it's very confusing.

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