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  Mortify

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Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 96

4/27/13 7:32:42 AM#481
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

I am not going to state my varied reasons again for the umpteenth time. I know in the beginning some of my posts were deleted but there are others stating my reasons why. If you can't be bothered to look them up I see no reason for typing them out again. 

That was enough reason to stop reading his posts and take him seriously in any way. Just another guy with too many postings and a signature that says a lot about his character.

 

Backer forums up already?

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  Joekra

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Joined: 8/15/10
Posts: 183

4/27/13 8:47:16 AM#482
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Mortify

That was enough reason to stop reading his posts and take him seriously in any way. Just another guy with too many postings and a signature that says a lot about his character.

 

Backer forums up already?

Calling postings into question? Should I be as dimwitted as to say your opinion means nothing because you're a forum noob with your amount of posts that would actually be more than mine if you created this account right before this KS began that magically spawned your fairy self?

Oh...I'll be damned you did!  

Hmmmm?

Bringing post count into discussion? You serious?

  Soki123

Elite Member

Joined: 8/10/08
Posts: 1341

4/27/13 8:50:44 AM#483
Originally posted by Joekra
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Mortify

That was enough reason to stop reading his posts and take him seriously in any way. Just another guy with too many postings and a signature that says a lot about his character.

 

Backer forums up already?

Calling postings into question? Should I be as dimwitted as to say your opinion means nothing because you're a forum noob with your amount of posts that would actually be more than mine if you created this account right before this KS began that magically spawned your fairy self?

Oh...I'll be damned you did!  

Hmmmm?

Bringing post count into discussion? You serious?

Lol, you might want to read the whole thing before commenting.

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

4/27/13 8:53:15 AM#484
Originally posted by Soki123

Lol, you might want to read the whole thing before commenting.

Christ thank you. Was starting to question my own sanity for a second there...hahaha

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
Posts: 1160

Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

4/27/13 8:53:15 AM#485
Originally posted by Joekra
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Mortify

That was enough reason to stop reading his posts and take him seriously in any way. Just another guy with too many postings and a signature that says a lot about his character.

 

Backer forums up already?

Calling postings into question? Should I be as dimwitted as to say your opinion means nothing because you're a forum noob with your amount of posts that would actually be more than mine if you created this account right before this KS began that magically spawned your fairy self?

Oh...I'll be damned you did!  

Hmmmm?

Bringing post count into discussion? You serious?

In most cases no, but when someone makes up a new account and all their posts are for the same game. 95% of the posts are begging for money, and half your posts/threads are the same exact thing............... yeah!

Its people like that that kept me from joining the KS and donating money. I can not donate to a game where I would be stuck with these people. What they did to CU here on these forums was childish and just down right obnoxious!

 

  erictlewis

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Joined: 11/08/08
Posts: 3059

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

4/27/13 9:03:18 AM#486
Originally posted by Onomas
Originally posted by Joekra
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Mortify

That was enough reason to stop reading his posts and take him seriously in any way. Just another guy with too many postings and a signature that says a lot about his character.

 

Backer forums up already?

Calling postings into question? Should I be as dimwitted as to say your opinion means nothing because you're a forum noob with your amount of posts that would actually be more than mine if you created this account right before this KS began that magically spawned your fairy self?

Oh...I'll be damned you did!  

Hmmmm?

Bringing post count into discussion? You serious?

In most cases no, but when someone makes up a new account and all their posts are for the same game. 95% of the posts are begging for money, and half your posts/threads are the same exact thing............... yeah!

Its people like that that kept me from joining the KS and donating money. I can not donate to a game where I would be stuck with these people. What they did to CU here on these forums was childish and just down right obnoxious!

 

I agree, this is why I will not pledge.  You have to wonder why there have been so many paid users all with new accounts and all begging us to go to kickstarter, an dyou have to wonder if they are all the same person as they all say the same thing.  You have to wonder why they are pushing so hard to get folks to pledge.  It bothers me to think that 2 million dollars might go poof,  kind of like stargate worlds. 

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

4/27/13 9:05:36 AM#487
Originally posted by Onomas

In most cases no, but when someone makes up a new account and all their posts are for the same game. 95% of the posts are begging for money, and half your posts/threads are the same exact thing............... yeah!

Its people like that that kept me from joining the KS and donating money. I can not donate to a game where I would be stuck with these people. What they did to CU here on these forums was childish and just down right obnoxious!

 

It was rather silly yet obvious with some.

Not sure why they would concentrate so much here. I mean the likes of me with uber post counts that was pointed out tends to mean we have too much fucking free time at work.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

4/27/13 9:08:49 AM#488
Originally posted by erictlewis
  It bothers me to think that 2 million dollars might go poof,  kind of like stargate worlds. 

Now that I was unaware of. Was that 2 million KS or "Regular Joe Customer" invested?

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Joekra

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Joined: 8/15/10
Posts: 183

4/27/13 9:11:28 AM#489
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Soki123

Lol, you might want to read the whole thing before commenting.

Christ thank you. Was starting to question my own sanity for a second there...hahaha

I might have rushed some as I had to brb, apologies :D

  Wickedjelly

Novice Member

Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

4/27/13 9:23:28 AM#490
Originally posted by dinams

Everyday I come here, click a kickstarter logo and look at the progress

And then I feel a bit of glee

 

I hope this dont funds

Then all the car sellers/jehova witnesses/annoying people will go away instead of corrupting the wonderful land that is mmorpg.com for 5+ fucking years

Eh...I don't completely agree. I think it can be a useful tool in the right creative hands. My main concern is if it gets neutered by a few projects that fall short in areas that turns off the majority to even considering this as a legitmate prospect.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  dinams

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Joined: 6/17/10
Posts: 1403

4/27/13 9:27:56 AM#491
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by dinams

Everyday I come here, click a kickstarter logo and look at the progress

And then I feel a bit of glee

 

I hope this dont funds

Then all the car sellers/jehova witnesses/annoying people will go away instead of corrupting the wonderful land that is mmorpg.com for 5+ fucking years

Eh...I don't completely agree. I think it can be a useful tool in the right creative hands. My main concern is if it gets neutered by a few projects that fall short in areas that turns off the majority to even considering this as a legitmate prospect.

I should have been more specific

I click a CU kickstarter logo*

 

I got nothing against KS, I funded a project there

I have a personal vendetta against all the people that hit my face with KS logos and try to gospel me into converting to their faith tho

"It has potential"
-Second most used phrase on existence
"It sucks"
-Most used phrase on existence

  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
Posts: 1160

Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

4/27/13 9:28:19 AM#492
Originally posted by dinams

Everyday I come here, click a kickstarter logo and look at the progress

And then I feel a bit of glee

 

I hope this dont funds

Then all the car sellers/jehova witnesses/annoying people will go away instead of corrupting the wonderful land that is mmorpg.com for 5+ fucking years

I was actualy hoping this game did get made and released. I like many of its features and the fact the developer wont bend over backwards for the konsole kiddies. Was ready to pledge some money.

But then after reading the forum, well trying to before they combined the posts, kind of turned me off from the player base and community. And as an older gamer to me community is everything when it comes to a mmorpg. Granted not everyone is like that, i agree. But if they will stoop this low here, what will they do in game?

  Tierless

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Joined: 7/01/08
Posts: 2118

joie de vivre

4/27/13 9:32:05 AM#493


Originally posted by meddyck

Originally posted by Tierless At this point, what do you guys think gets us more new backers tech or concepts? I think the people that understand tech are in already. The remainder dont care so much about the how as they do the sounds cool.
Any tech other than an awesome Arthurian model is probably useless at this point. That model might capture some people's interest and get them to think, "That's great! I want to play one of those so I better donate." But I think everybody has already gotten the point that Andrew is a C0d3 G0d who can make a great engine for CU.

What we need from Mark is the same thing we've been needing for the past 25 days: info on the RvR meta-game, info on classes, and info on RvR progression. The core game features deserve presentations no less polished and detailed than were given to The Depths, housing, building, mining, and stealthing.

Beyond that, maybe find ways to make the $25 through $50 tiers even more attractive to bring in hundreds and even thousands of fence sitters. Somebody suggested a while back giving alpha access to the first X backers regardless of tier. That would be worth trying. Or bump up the Founders Points on all tiers by a lot.  Or give all tiers an extra free month's subscription or small reduced sub rate. Whatever they can think of to make it worthwhile for people to donate now instead of waiting until the game is about to be released to pre-order.


I keep saying it but I agree, need some nice philosophy stuff with concept art in 1 vid. Right now its bits and pieces scattered all across the interwebs.

I love what I've seen but when I try to show my less obsessed friends they are like "where the gameplay" which enrages me. You see, they are the kind of people that see a CG trailer and think the game looks good. We don't need to live, but we need to show them some more stuff like the depths vid.

mmorpg.com/blogs/Xobdnas

  Tierless

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/01/08
Posts: 2118

joie de vivre

4/27/13 9:46:54 AM#494

SpottyGekko,

Did you know an old friend of mine would post on forums with a bit of a persona, kinda like a Jon Stewart thing, thats crazy...

Don't worry I'm not THAT crazy, just very strong willed. Most of that post was taken from a guy on the kickstarter, he got it from the guys of another kickstarter, and they had a lot of success with it, so why wouldn't we try the same?

As for the game being the way I imagine it, I might sound pretty extreme on MMO places as far as my ideals, thats because I firmly believe in them and hope to see them implemented, but in reality once a decision is made in CU I'm not too upset, why? Because unlike the AAA MMOs I have extreme trust in MJ and Co to make anything great-no matter how BSC it sounds. MJ will be making his decisions from the right place, what would be the most fun for him and his backers, AAA MMOs make decisions based on what will get them the most Subs. I hate that.

Anyway, point is, I'm fairly easy to please once I'm playing a game, but if you give me a shot at making it better before it's made, damn right I'm gonna give it a try, why wouldn't I?

...it did occur to me that if my friend was the Jon Stewart, then I suppose an extreme sandbox fanatic would probably be the Colbert version...satire is a powerful thing ;)

mmorpg.com/blogs/Xobdnas

  Ellya

Novice Member

Joined: 3/03/13
Posts: 99

4/27/13 10:38:00 AM#495
Originally posted by Onomas
 

I was actualy hoping this game did get made and released. I like many of its features and the fact the developer wont bend over backwards for the konsole kiddies. Was ready to pledge some money.

But then after reading the forum, well trying to before they combined the posts, kind of turned me off from the player base and community. And as an older gamer to me community is everything when it comes to a mmorpg. Granted not everyone is like that, i agree. But if they will stoop this low here, what will they do in game?

I am also an older gamer, Onomas, and I agree that some members of the CU community have gone over the top with the evangelising and urging people to pledge funds.

The thing is, they have passion about the concept of the game. There is a very real possibility that if this game doesn't fund, then nothing like it will surface again for many, many years, if ever.

The vast  majority of the CU community are just like you. Older gamers, who remember how mmorpg's used to be, with communities that worked together.  We want something different to the treadmill, cash shop games that have dominated for the past few years. Nostalgic maybe, but we want a return to the old values, to a different kind of gameplay, where you can really feel like part of the world, part of your realm.

If you do indeed believe that the game has something that you're interested in, then the only chance you have to play it is if it gets funded. And that can only happen if more people pledge the funds. Even the smallest sum would help. :)

  nf4mous

Novice Member

Joined: 4/08/13
Posts: 55

4/27/13 11:54:23 AM#496
Originally posted by erictlewis

 

I agree, this is why I will not pledge.  You have to wonder why there have been so many paid users all with new accounts and all begging us to go to kickstarter, an dyou have to wonder if they are all the same person as they all say the same thing.  You have to wonder why they are pushing so hard to get folks to pledge.  It bothers me to think that 2 million dollars might go poof,  kind of like stargate worlds. 


enthusiasm for a game now constitutes a major conspiracy theory.  i thought i heard it all.  color me unconvinced to those who say "i would have pledged, but due to a small vocal minority...".    and factually speaking, there's not really much/any past evidence to support your speculation that KS raised funds "go poof".

  nf4mous

Novice Member

Joined: 4/08/13
Posts: 55

4/27/13 12:00:02 PM#497
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

I am not going to state my varied reasons again for the umpteenth time. I know in the beginning some of my posts were deleted but there are others stating my reasons why. If you can't be bothered to look them up I see no reason for typing them out again. Hell...think I reposted them in a featured article here relating to the issue of nostalgia posted last week I believe that should still have my reasoning present.

...and to be clear I never meant this was a cash grab. My point was his goal level for the KS was influenced by the other KS I believe they banked on.

 

 

all i see are speculative posts after speculative posts without any facts or evidence.  it's not surprising to me so many of your posts were removed.

  Alot

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Joined: 1/04/11
Posts: 1984

Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party

4/27/13 12:03:47 PM#498


Originally posted by SoMuchMass

Originally posted by Alber_gamer

 
As adults, we understand that sub-based games are from the stone age.
As adults, we understand that B2P and F2P are sub par products that can't hold a player base.  Those type of MMOs are made for the tourist MMO player that moves from one MMO to another.  Played tons of these supposed B2P and F2P games and most were pretty bad including the so called "savior" GW2 (in which I lasted 10 hours). They are out to make a quick buck and cash in.

As an immature GW2 Fascist, I kitten know both of you kittens need to kitten stop making kitten petty generalizations and presenting your kitten opinion as fact.

  ArcherBullseye

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Posts: 77

4/27/13 12:13:39 PM#499

You guys should stick to facts... :-)

Distribution of Unsuccessful Projects by Funding Threshold

 

Source: http://gigaom.com/2012/06/28/analyzing-kickstarter-what-succeeds-by-how-much-and-how-often/

  nf4mous

Novice Member

Joined: 4/08/13
Posts: 55

4/27/13 12:13:50 PM#500
Originally posted by Alot

 



As an immature GW2 Fascist, I kitten know both of you kittens need to kitten stop making kitten petty generalizations and presenting your kitten opinion as fact.

 

who doesn't love kittens!

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