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Scarlet Blade Forum » General Discussion » Is this Porn or an MMO?

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  Vesavius

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3/31/13 7:23:48 AM#81

Generally I have no issue with SB, boobies and other wobbly parts don't offend me and I consider haaving half nekid girls in a game no different socially then having half nekid men (which there are always planty of... barbs in loincloths?), but that 'she has no safeword' tagline they used was a bit disturbing to me.

  versulas

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3/31/13 7:28:20 AM#82

Huh, Warjin must be this game's biggest fan. He's done nothing but promote Scarlet Blade and provide it with free quality advertising. I wonder how many new gamers he's managed to convert so far...

Oh no, save the children and womenfolk! I feel like I'm playing Bioshock Infinite again =/

  Alber_gamer

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3/31/13 8:32:41 AM#83

Even the topic of this thread is ridiculous. Even if the game was porn, "Porn" and "MMO" aren't mutually exclusive terms.

 

If you can't stomach it, too bad for you, just look elsewhere. Just remember that you seem to be fine with murdering people, raising undead and summoning demons in your average mmo and only some skimpy suit on a sexy girl made you feel morally offended.

 

Perhaps it's you who should review your own moralities.

My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  Yamota

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3/31/13 8:34:56 AM#84
I would qualify this game as a soft core porn MMO.

  TheSedated

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3/31/13 9:01:14 AM#85
I really wonder when the first lawsuit is filed from child to mother about sexual abuse, because the mother was feeding the child her breast when it was a baby...
  erictlewis

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3/31/13 9:19:31 AM#86

I am surpised that they not closed this thread yet due to some of the trolling going on.  Honestly the add's are borderline soft core porn IMHO.    

Long story short I sent an email to the comunity folks expressing my thoughs about the entire discussion since the original thread had alread been locked. Mike actually recieved my email about the add's.  His reply was interesting to say the least.

However the add's are still with us or they were last night, despite all the folks getting slightly bent out of shape.  And addblock did no good it tried to block out the entire page.   I understand they got to make money, but sometimes these add go overboard. 

 

 

  rojoArcueid

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3/31/13 9:21:41 AM#87
Originally posted by Netspook
Originally posted by tank017
Originally posted by Netspook
 

 

Nothing wrong with regular porn, but this game is for pedophiles...

is there little half naked children in it?

 

all ive seen are legal looking women.

 

If you've seen the first ads, before they "matured up" the faces, then you'd know what I mean.

google images of japanese models. You will see lots of hot young girls..... oh wait, they are adult models that look young. I see what you mean, but whats on your mind doesnt always mean the right thing.

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

  Acidon

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3/31/13 9:29:18 AM#88
Originally posted by DOGMA1138
Originally posted by Warjin

I am at a loss for words on how a company can sell sex to mainly kids just for a fast buck, I have seen some pretty strange things in my time playing MMO but this games advertisements takes the cake lol.

Man oh man I can see now why women get offended, we as a people use them as objects to sell things, do those devolpers even have daughters, wives, mothers lol, no wonder we as a people are so messed up, look at how they sell a video game, what's next, posters of a half nude chic eating a Big Mac on a Mcdonalds poster outside of a drive though or how about nipple pasties on Wendy from the fast food join Wendy's, yeah that will sell some double cheeseburgers lol.

We live in sad, sad time people, very sad lol.

Not commenting about the "game" but rather about that stupid example you gave of a BK commercial..

If this was a guy in a taco commercial with similar innuendo people likw you would still bitch and moan that it objectifies women. Women can and do enjoy sexuality just as men do, sex sells to both sexes the fact that the target audience of a game is mostly teen-age males with some disposable income does not mean that the developers/marketing people are some sexist pigs.

The sad part is that when femenism started it was about the libiration of women a key part of which was the liberation of their sexuality. Now we have insane women crying about objectification(when they objectify themselves just as much if not more than males) , and more importantly men with a white knight(or in most cases just pure old mysagonism) complex thinking they have to be the vanguard of every pair of boobs on the planet.

Women are quite capeable of taking care of themselves, heck they have been running the pron industry since the late 80's, and in advertisements women and gay men are 3 times most likely to add sexual context to the add(at least in copyrighting) than straight men.

If you care so much about social equality find a cause that will be actually worth to fight for, there are plenty of god honest battles out there. Saying look guys we are bad cuz we like big boobs is pointless, either you are one of those man that want  women to get back in the kitchen wearing a chastity belt. Or you one of those guys that is so incapable of finding a women that you think point guarding for their sex will help you score.

Both men and women are capable of handling their sexuality on equaly, i see no issue of having sexual content in a game which is aimed at a sufficiently mature audience. I doubt you have any reservation to the fact that male characters in most games(well western games at least) look like the love baby(unless you are a republican than replace that with the spawn of satan) of a 3 times olymic swimmer and an underwear model. But oh noes some another cheep game tries to get some more players with big boobs and slutty outfits, call the PC hotline we have a really bad case of sexism!

/sigh

 

 

Great post.  Very good argument.  +1

 

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  Drakynn

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3/31/13 9:35:19 AM#89
Originally posted by Yamota
I would qualify this game as a soft core porn MMO.

I believe you would be wrong as to be soft core porn it would have to depict sexual activity in a less explicit way than Hardcore porn.Whilst the characters are scantily clad I do not beleive there is any actual sex int he game and certainly not depicted on screen.

All Is ee here in the OP and some subsequent posters is another excuse to go off on puritanical rants.Though I do believe the ads and armors in the game are pushing the boundaries of good taste,I don't beleive they are harming anyone and thus in need of banning or legal action.Maybe if any type of sexual content in emdia makes you guys so uncomfortable the problem lies in your psyche and not the media itself.

I belive the bigger issue here is the game hides a very derivative and mediocre MMORPG behind it's veneer of titilation and for that reason deserves to fail.

  Reklaw

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3/31/13 9:37:20 AM#90
Originally posted by Draemos

Uh oh, they crossed the invisible arbitrary line that OP drew in invisible sand.  Sex sales, blame the people buying, they create the market.  

In the meantime, take a look at the games your playing and realize they glorify violence and murder... Something that should be far worse than sexuality.  Why is exploiting one ok but not the other?  The US is so backasswards on sexuality and violence that its ridiculous.

The answer is because its just a damned video game. It's fantasy make believe, get over it.

 

 

Yeah it's actually amazing that violence/murder gets a  up and something like Scarlet Blade should be censored.

I mean: Pornography generates billions of dollars in sales in the United States alone. An estimated 211 new pornographic films are made every week in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region

Apart from that I feel the marketing department of Scarlet Blade wants to thanks all those free viral topics about their game, regardless that those topics are negative towards the game they keep the game under readers attention.

 

  jdnewell

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3/31/13 9:37:46 AM#91

Gotta love when people get bent out of shape about a little T & A. Then go back to playing GTA and murder some cops, rob a bank, kill bystanders and basically cause mayhem.

But dont let any of the murdered hookers show any cleavage. That would just be plain wrong.

  Shadanwolf

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3/31/13 9:43:50 AM#92
Originally posted by Warjin

I am at a loss for words on how a company can sell sex to mainly kids just for a fast buck, I have seen some pretty strange things in my time playing MMO but this games advertisements takes the cake lol.

Man oh man I can see now why women get offended, we as a people use them as objects to sell things, do those devolpers even have daughters, wives, mothers lol, no wonder we as a people are so messed up, look at how they sell a video game, what's next, posters of a half nude chic eating a Big Mac on a Mcdonalds poster outside of a drive though or how about nipple pasties on Wendy from the fast food join Wendy's, yeah that will sell some double cheeseburgers lol.

We live in sad, sad time people, very sad lol.

Well said OP. It's really disheartening to watch the ongoing assault on the moral fabic of society.

  jdnewell

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3/31/13 9:51:06 AM#93
Originally posted by Shadanwolf
Originally posted by Warjin

I am at a loss for words on how a company can sell sex to mainly kids just for a fast buck, I have seen some pretty strange things in my time playing MMO but this games advertisements takes the cake lol.

Man oh man I can see now why women get offended, we as a people use them as objects to sell things, do those devolpers even have daughters, wives, mothers lol, no wonder we as a people are so messed up, look at how they sell a video game, what's next, posters of a half nude chic eating a Big Mac on a Mcdonalds poster outside of a drive though or how about nipple pasties on Wendy from the fast food join Wendy's, yeah that will sell some double cheeseburgers lol.

We live in sad, sad time people, very sad lol.

Well said OP. It's really disheartening to watch the ongoing assault on the moral fabic of society.

Do you even pay attention to whats going on in the world? Violence is the ongoing assault, not sex. If you were truly worried about societies moral fabric you would be railing against the excess violence in everything. Commercials, movies, games, TV shows, ect.

I find it ironic the same people who think a nude woman / man is destroying society but dont bat an eyelash about their kids watching violent media or playing violent games.

I am American and I honestly do not understand this country anymore. A pair of Titties gets people so outraged, yet violence permeates everything and no one cares.

  User Deleted
3/31/13 9:51:21 AM#94
I seriously hope the ones screaming the loudest at this non-issue (imo) are as consistent with every other sensitive category and not just being hypocrites.
  User Deleted
3/31/13 9:52:43 AM#95
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Shadanwolf
Originally posted by Warjin

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I find it ironic the same people who think a nude woman / man is destroying society but dont bat an eyelash about their kids watching violent media or playing violent games.

I am American and I honestly do not understand this country anymore. A pair of Titties gets people so outraged, yet violence permeates everything and no one cares.

Hear, hear. I still remember the Super Bowl nipplegate as if it were yesterday. So sad.

  Wicoa

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3/31/13 9:53:59 AM#96

What moral fabric of society... empires used to pillage and do bad things to any type of human being for centuries.  To act like we suddenly have morals and standards is a joke.

The bubble we live in today may come to an end anytime soon with any type of natural disaster or nutters having nuclear technology selling it to rogue factions.  Then it will come down to who has the most powerful clan wins and people will be subjected to horrific abuse.

I semi agree though and am desensatised to games like this and adverts on TV but then again what do I know Im just a forum poster QQing on the internet.

 

 

  dancingstar

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3/31/13 9:56:24 AM#97
Originally posted by Drakynn
Originally posted by Yamota
I would qualify this game as a soft core porn MMO.

I believe you would be wrong as to be soft core porn it would have to depict sexual activity in a less explicit way than Hardcore porn.Whilst the characters are scantily clad I do not beleive there is any actual sex int he game and certainly not depicted on screen.

All Is ee here in the OP and some subsequent posters is another excuse to go off on puritanical rants.Though I do believe the ads and armors in the game are pushing the boundaries of good taste,I don't beleive they are harming anyone and thus in need of banning or legal action.Maybe if any type of sexual content in emdia makes you guys so uncomfortable the problem lies in your psyche and not the media itself.

I belive the bigger issue here is the game hides a very derivative and mediocre MMORPG behind it's veneer of titilation and for that reason deserves to fail.

Pretty much this. Aside from pushing the fanservice & sexual innuendo further it's the same thing we've seen many times before, a bit better polished than (for example) Shaiya and Last Chaos, but still utterly generic in terms of mechanics, gameplay, questing, battleground PvP &c. The mechs are fun for a few minutes, tho'.

  Draemos

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3/31/13 11:37:34 AM#98
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by zymurgeist

 


Originally posted by NBlitz I could argue the same for violence. It requires responsibility and yet, here we are, blowing up someone's head in different ways is A-OK.

 

 I keep seeing this canard. For the most part violence is handled responsibly. We kill enemies and monsters. When games like Postal mowing down marching bands  and the grand theft auto running over hookers thing come out society does question it. How many mainstream games have you seen about roasting Jewish people in ovens and lynching Black people have you seen? Rape, torture, and genocide aren't topics commonly seen in  gaming. Yeah it gets over the top sometimes but there are limits.

What part of violence is reponsible?

Either way it isn't like the game is rated T. This shouldn't even matter.

The depiction of violence in gaming. You know, the part I was clearly talking about. It matters. First because the ratings are often ignored guidelines and second because some things are wrong no matter how old you are.

I really don't think a person who has such a blatant double standard between violence and sexuality should be dictating what is and isn't morally acceptable in a game rated for adults. If you don't like a game don't play it.

  Draemos

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3/31/13 11:48:57 AM#99
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by zymurgeist

 


Originally posted by NBlitz I could argue the same for violence. It requires responsibility and yet, here we are, blowing up someone's head in different ways is A-OK.

 

 I keep seeing this canard. For the most part violence is handled responsibly. We kill enemies and monsters. When games like Postal mowing down marching bands  and the grand theft auto running over hookers thing come out society does question it. How many mainstream games have you seen about roasting Jewish people in ovens and lynching Black people have you seen? Rape, torture, and genocide aren't topics commonly seen in  gaming. Yeah it gets over the top sometimes but there are limits.

What part of violence is reponsible?

Either way it isn't like the game is rated T. This shouldn't even matter.

The depiction of violence in gaming. You know, the part I was clearly talking about. It matters. First because the ratings are often ignored guidelines and second because some things are wrong no matter how old you are.

How are you going to tell me what is right and wrong in a virtual world? FFS i can goto a hog farm and slaughter the swine and claim it was those darned video games that did it.

Ratings are there for a reason, beyond that point it is consumer and parental responsibility. PERSONAL responsibility.. it is about damn time people stop blaming others for their problems.

 It's time people stop excusing their excesses in the name of someone else's personal responsibility. The game companies bear some resonsibilty too. If someone murders that's their responsibility. If a gaming company makes a tasteless overly sexualized or violent game that's their responsibility. The concept of personal responsibility relies on everyone taking responsibility for their own actions. It's not a one way street. What is right and wrong in a virtual world is largely what's right anfd wrong in the real world. There is more leeway because of lack of immediate real world effect but even there the limits exist.  If we never discuss the limits no one will ever know what they are. If we don't regulate ourselves the nanny state will do it for us and we won't like it.

So regulate yourself?  Just don't presume to regulate me based on your own version of morality.  You can't preach freedom on one hand while trying to make arbitrary rules and regulations based off nonsensical double standards with the other.  

  Kinh021

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3/31/13 11:52:09 AM#100
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