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  NC360

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Joined: 12/09/08
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3/28/13 1:49:55 AM#21
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Violence is fine but boobies are the devil, so says the mmorpg.com community. get over it ffs.

 Breasts aren't evil. Extreme objectification of female attributes is.

Sexuality doesn't equal objectification. Selling a game that focuses on sexuality, doesn't equal objectification. Meaning that there is nothing about it that means it's all a person is good for; in this case a video game character.

Man I think there is too much demonization of the female form. It's got to end.

  birdycephon

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3/28/13 1:58:14 AM#22
Originally posted by NC360
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Violence is fine but boobies are the devil, so says the mmorpg.com community. get over it ffs.

 Breasts aren't evil. Extreme objectification of female attributes is.

Sexuality doesn't equal objectification. Selling a game that focuses on sexuality, doesn't equal objectification. Meaning that there is nothing about it that means it's all a person is good for; in this case a video game character.

Man I think there is too much demonization of the female form. It's got to end.

Agreed.

  jesteralways

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Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 682

3/28/13 2:07:20 AM#23
Originally posted by eyelolled

I see they've removed the advertising for this game.  Do you think that this game is just too adult for the average mmorpg.com viewer?

 

I would be inclined to think it simply because the squeaking wheel gets the grease, instead of being a general concensus. 

AGE paid mmorpg.com to show that ad for certain amount of time, the time is up and the ad is gone. it is as simple as that. and i find it very amusing that cutting off heads\other body parts, blood splash on screen, gore, even killing child "demon" in game are accepted without a word but showing some boobs is being treated like blasphemy. grow up.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5210

3/28/13 7:51:31 AM#24
Originally posted by NC360
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Violence is fine but boobies are the devil, so says the mmorpg.com community. get over it ffs.

 Breasts aren't evil. Extreme objectification of female attributes is.

Sexuality doesn't equal objectification. Selling a game that focuses on sexuality, doesn't equal objectification. Meaning that there is nothing about it that means it's all a person is good for; in this case a video game character.

Man I think there is too much demonization of the female form. It's got to end.

 Were that any form of depicting normal sexuality I might agree. It's not. I don't have a problem with nudity. I have a problem with using nudity or near nudity to dehumanize. Saying they're all female robots is about as subtle as a train wreck. This isn't about political correctness it's about tasteless exploitation.

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  fiontar

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3/28/13 8:40:58 AM#25

There was nothing wrong with the ads. There is also nothing wrong with the sexuality in the game. It's actually presented in a pretty light hearted, fluffy manner, with a lot of tongue in cheek humor.

It's only because of the unhealthy level of sexual repression in our society that the ads, or the game, would raise any issues at all. The acceptable glorification of extreme forms of violence in games and media, while suppressing something as normal and life affirming as sensuality and sexuality will someday have future historians shaking their heads in bewilderment.

The funny thing about the ads is that almost every game ad we've ever seen on the site has used sexuality in one form or another to sell their game. The only difference is that SB actually delivers on it's tease in the actual game.

Some people just need to lighten up.

 

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  fiontar

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3/28/13 8:49:32 AM#26
Originally posted by NC360
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Violence is fine but boobies are the devil, so says the mmorpg.com community. get over it ffs.

 Breasts aren't evil. Extreme objectification of female attributes is.

Sexuality doesn't equal objectification. Selling a game that focuses on sexuality, doesn't equal objectification. Meaning that there is nothing about it that means it's all a person is good for; in this case a video game character.

Man I think there is too much demonization of the female form. It's got to end.

I completely agree. It's really one of the remaining forms of acceptable repression of women in modern society. That some women take part in that repression doesn't make it not so. If we didn't have such unhealthy attitudes about sex and the human body in our society, it would be pretty difficult to actually objectify anyone based on sexuality. Patriarchy has always been the driving force behind repression of the normalcy of human sexuality and the human form. The idea that normalization of sexual expression is misogynistic is absurd and misguided.

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  birdycephon

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3/28/13 8:59:18 AM#27
Originally posted by fiontar
Originally posted by NC360
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Violence is fine but boobies are the devil, so says the mmorpg.com community. get over it ffs.

 Breasts aren't evil. Extreme objectification of female attributes is.

Sexuality doesn't equal objectification. Selling a game that focuses on sexuality, doesn't equal objectification. Meaning that there is nothing about it that means it's all a person is good for; in this case a video game character.

Man I think there is too much demonization of the female form. It's got to end.

I completely agree. It's really one of the remaining forms of acceptable repression of women in modern society. That some women take part in that repression doesn't make it not so. If we didn't have such unhealthy attitudes about sex and the human body in our society, it would be pretty difficult to actually objectify anyone based on sexuality. Patriarchy has always been the driving force behind repression of the normalcy of human sexuality and the human form. The idea that normalization of sexual expression is misogynistic is absurd and misguided.

Agreed. Any kind of hiarchy results in objefication. You think the 1% give a damn about the rest of the 99%? Think again. You see this kind of thing everywhere, you just have to look. 

  cheyane

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Posts: 2521

3/28/13 9:15:54 AM#28

I am 52 + now /cry housewife and I'm saying this to give you  a base for my opinion. I just feel that this games ad thing does not give advertisements on male body parts as much prominence okay that came out a  bit tongue in cheek what I am saying is that this games area is mainly a guy thing so ads cater to tits and boobs wait that is the same thing I mean ass and tits.

 

Also I think ads on men showing hair on thier navel and below is not even so common but yet in europe where I live breast get flashed on T.V. I just feel its a little unfair but not because I want to drool over them just that I would like to see more naked men on T.V. no that is not what I meant I mean that society has evolved to an extent that equal exposure to men and women were acceptable.

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  Thorbrand

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3/28/13 9:19:27 AM#29
MMORPGs are suppose to be adult games not games made to be played by 8 yo kids. One of the many things wrong with MMOs today. Not because of content because there should be a IQ level to just be able to play a real MMORPG like the good old days when we had MMORPGs to play. Making games like we run our schools doesn't separate the advanced gamers from those who wish they could game, and yes MMOs use to be that separation.
  Squeak69

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Posts: 972

cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

3/28/13 9:21:35 AM#30

the answer is very obvious sindce they had those adds there in the first place and where up until people started useing add blockers on them, which meant MMORPG was loseing money. so they brought them down.

and you all can say what you want im glad they are down cause i can browse through these foroums agian without my wife asking me why im looking at a henti sight, since she never dose more then glance at my com when im on it and when all ya do is glance those add more then made it look like a henti site.

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  Squeak69

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cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

3/28/13 9:24:39 AM#31
Originally posted by cheyane

I am 52 + now /cry housewife and I'm saying this to give you  a base for my opinion. I just feel that this games ad thing does not give advertisements on male body parts as much prominence okay that came out a  bit tongue in cheek what I am saying is that this games area is mainly a guy thing so ads cater to tits and boobs wait that is the same thing I mean ass and tits.

 

Also I think ads on men showing hair on thier navel and below is not even so common but yet in europe where I live breast get flashed on T.V. I just feel its a little unfair but not because I want to drool over them just that I would like to see more naked men on T.V. no that is not what I meant I mean that society has evolved to an extent that equal exposure to men and women were acceptable.

that is because it is not illegal to have bar chest on tv while it is illegal to show anything in lower regin, a basic guide line is if you could see pubic hair if it wasnt shaved then it is a no pass. at least over there, here in the states its a states by state basis but in most states even men can not shot thier chest bare in public.

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  Agent_Joseph

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Joined: 11/11/06
Posts: 955

3/28/13 9:28:01 AM#32
no, it is not too adult but it is too childish for sure !

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  GregorMcgregor

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3/28/13 9:28:11 AM#33
The Ad had to be hidden cause 2,000 Teens started to go blind. ;)

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  User Deleted
3/28/13 9:28:58 AM#34
Really now? What is it with most people these days and the "sexualization"  of women being equal to objectification? It's like us men railing against the chip'n'dale-type guys for being fap fantasies for some women. Get over yourselves, if you don't like the visuals in a game don't play it, crying about what you think is happening is like me reporting every 18+ year old chick I see on the street with enough clothing on to be legal but not enough to let anything to the imagination to the police for "objectifing" themselves.
  bliss14

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Ahh devil ether.

3/28/13 9:37:45 AM#35

The ads were eye-catching and that is all that needs to be said about them.  I bet it got some people to check out the game so the whole point of them was most likely met even if they might have been pulled prematurely.

 Right now there is a Sevencore ad up on my screen here on MMORPG.com with a blond on a motorcycle (?) arching her back with her ass up oin the air and some decent cleavage that is cut off right where it would get more interesting.  I find nothing wrong with it at all :)

  cheyane

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3/28/13 9:51:50 AM#36
No they show women's backsides on T.V. ads here in Italy (but then we have a pedophile still trying to run for Prime Minister) so the below the waist thing is not followed if that is the reason. That is what I'm trying to say I wish we lived in an age where both sexes were equally exposed or unexposed. But I guess I am tilting at windmills because women and men react differently to visual nudity because of how we are brought up too. It's acceptable for men to stare at boobies but not for women to stare at crotches not that I want to just trying to talk about perception and acceptance.

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  Thane

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3/28/13 9:55:49 AM#37
Originally posted by eyelolled

I see they've removed the advertising for this game.  Do you think that this game is just too adult for the average mmorpg.com viewer?

 

I would be inclined to think it simply because the squeaking wheel gets the grease, instead of being a general concensus. 

frankly, i didnt see anything adult about this game ^^

 

babies have boobs every day, doesnt make em adult :)

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  Superman0X

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3/28/13 10:34:16 AM#38
Originally posted by eyelolled

I see they've removed the advertising for this game.  Do you think that this game is just too adult for the average mmorpg.com viewer?

 

I would be inclined to think it simply because the squeaking wheel gets the grease, instead of being a general concensus. 

 

If you look at the ads, you will see that they are still running, just not the larger, more expensive ads.

  DAS1337

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3/28/13 10:57:08 AM#39

I don't know where everyone else stands, but I thought it was ridiculous.  You can whine and point fingers about how I'm being sensitive and all that BS, but you'd be wrong.  I'm into weirder things than a lot of you and a bit of tits and ass do not shock me in the slightest.

 

Rather, it's the OVER-emphasis on the female form and the advertizing going way overboard in an attempt to get sex starved men to click on their link.  It would be one thing if it were on TV, and it was a realm woman, selling a real product.  But even TV doesn't go to the lengths that this game goes to.  You'll occasionally see David Beckham half naked as well, which is gross, but I am a straight guy.  I can see it go both ways, which makes a little sense.  However, this game makes an obvious attempt to make it go as far as they can towards the female focus.  They literally wrap the male avatars up in metal, where you can't even see their eyes.  Yet, the females are in some cases, not wearing anything at all.  They have breast sliders in character creation and the models were clearly designed to show 'bounciness' as they move about.  

 

My objection with the ads has nothing to do with the ads, I've seen them before.  It's what is present in the game.  It's absolutely stupid.  Where are the dick sliders?  I don't see sliders for girth and length.  I don't see them flopping around while the characters move.  They went as far as covering everything up to the point where there is no skin showing.  No, I don't want to see dicks, but the point is, I don't really want to see tits and ass either in a video game.  I can go watch porno or have sex with my girlfriend if I was interested in tits and ass.  

 

I've said this before.  This is where I have a little more respect for Age of Conan and Mortal Online.  Those titles pushed the edge, and while I don't play them now, I can see that they didn't shamelessly attempt to target 12 year olds and 40 year old virgins.

  Killsmallchi

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Posts: 279

Don't be simple

3/28/13 11:00:25 AM#40

Tried the game, to generic for my taste.

My girlfriend tried the game, loves the anime, cutesy girl model and how its all fake women in the game. Can't get her to realize it is a bad game and she keeps playing cause she likes the character models.

To each his own.

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