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Face of Mankind Forum » General Discussion raquo; Please watch this video before you buy this game

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  eddy051

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Joined: 5/11/06
Posts: 40

 
8/24/06 2:33:54 AM#1

Look how crappy this games combat system is, just watch this video, I cannot believe they even went retail with this game. There is nothing to do in the game, and that was probally the two most boringness weeks of my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlCVL-zcaE

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  Smoker1982

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Joined: 12/28/03
Posts: 22

8/24/06 4:40:58 AM#2

Yeah... RP isnt for everyone ;)

if you expect a shooter or grinding game you wont be happy with this game, as you can see on the post above :P

when i clicked the link there was a video in the youtube playlist right below this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sH9Zllt818

or just take this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JISB8j3JlnE


just 2 examples ;)

  Rubycat

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Joined: 6/04/04
Posts: 224

8/24/06 11:10:25 AM#3
uhh Smoker, right now Foms only roleplay is wars -nearly every faction seems to be at eachothers throats becuase they are all bored-

and Even the replies ingame and outofgame (forums) is mostly OOC (out of character) with LOL's and SEXYCHAT and the dreaded REP ME!. ive seen the constant ammount spam threads people keep making and the mods keep closing

maybe with MS2 there will be roleplay to show off what FOM can sometimes be about, but dont up and say right now that roleplay is in FOMl, cause its not! (unless everyone is roleplaying thier first day at a new school while after learning curse words)
  Superman0X

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Joined: 3/28/06
Posts: 637

8/24/06 6:22:24 PM#4

I agree that there is a lot of OOC comments, and just plain spam on the forums. It is mostly coming from the CS stlyle players that have seen the content coming for MS2.... and are against it, because it will interfere with thier run and gun game.

I have to say that Role Playing is not for everyone... and that including it in the basic game structure is going to make those that dont like it, have to deal with it more often... and they are generally not happy with this. To each thier own... (I expect to see some drop in numbers when they start releasing MS2 content) but I also expect to atttract a lot more new players once that content is available.

  complexiator

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Joined: 1/19/05
Posts: 119

8/25/06 2:32:41 AM#5


Originally posted by eddy051
Look how crappy this games combat system is, just watch this video, I cannot believe they even went retail with this game. There is nothing to do in the game, and that was probally the two most boringness weeks of my life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlCVL-zcaE

I don't really see your point in how this video proves how crappy the combat system is. The video shows someone fighting in 3d person which i personally like and you don't find in many other games. The person in the video doesn't really know how to fight because he strifes all the time. And this game offers a more realistic way to strifing which is slower then normal walking and thus making you more vurlnerable.

So please tell us what you think is wrong in the combat system.

  srohek

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Joined: 6/05/04
Posts: 272

8/25/06 6:23:46 PM#6
The combat system is pretty dope IMO. The longevitiy of battles prove who is more consistently skilled, not who can get more lucky, random, spraying shots at the head where you die instantly in other FPS games. The style of combat is reminiscent of samurai duels, consisting of defense techniques, and your ability to predict your opponent's moves.
  Coman

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Joined: 8/29/04
Posts: 1467

8/25/06 6:42:34 PM#7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p_Kf_MAJ5E&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf1h6SG67HQ&mode=related&search=

I can give you more vidios about the game, where you see that the player make the content. That is actualy the whole point, the biggest part needs to come from the players. The Combat is not crab, I like it the way it is. You need more skills then in CS and that kind of combat system to get an kill tbh.

PS Rep me please....ok bad joke, but could not resist.
  Majorjuju

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Joined: 8/26/06
Posts: 11

Good girls goto heaven, bad girls go everywhere ;)

8/27/06 5:05:04 PM#8


Ok ok this guy says the game is crap?

Hes still playing it even though he posted this like a month ago...

Yeah oakly it must really suck if you keep playing it... idiot

Originally posted by eddy051

Look how crappy this games combat system is, just watch this video, I cannot believe they even went retail with this game. There is nothing to do in the game, and that was probally the two most boringness weeks of my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlCVL-zcaE



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  Coman

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Joined: 8/29/04
Posts: 1467

8/28/06 9:46:18 AM#9

Originally posted by Majorjuju


Ok ok this guy says the game is crap?

Hes still playing it even though he posted this like a month ago...

Yeah oakly it must really suck if you keep playing it... idiot

Originally posted by eddy051

Look how crappy this games combat system is, just watch this video, I cannot believe they even went retail with this game. There is nothing to do in the game, and that was probally the two most boringness weeks of my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlCVL-zcaE




It is just an movie the comunity made for the fun of it.  This shows an other kind of combat system then normaly and an comunity finding there own way of having fun. They way the game is meant to be played.
  dugzgamez1

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Joined: 8/20/06
Posts: 1

8/30/06 9:01:28 PM#10

The concept of FoM is very cool and I would love to see a good MMO use some of the ideas of FoM: user generated missions, politics, rp, all PvP. That being said, I am enraged at the fact that I paid money to test this game out. It was HORRIBLE! There are way too few people, too many factions, all conflicted, and absolutely nothing to do.

You cant have a user-based, zero content game WITHOUT USERS!!!! There arent enough users for the concept to work, and there never will be since anyone (like myself) who joins is going to quit almost immediately. This game should get a MUCH lower rating.

  srohek

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Joined: 6/05/04
Posts: 272

8/31/06 10:30:32 PM#11
Which faction did you join and did you use Ventrillo?
  Stratus8

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Joined: 10/30/04
Posts: 163

Professional Lowbie

9/01/06 8:07:43 PM#12
This game is awesome but it wasnt ready for p2p. Combat is pretty unique and awesome but when I played in beta not many people were RP'ing. Anyways, I hoped that they would put it back in open beta and accept donations while they get their junk fixed. That aint happenin.
  User Deleted
9/16/06 1:24:27 AM#13

Originally posted by complexiator


Originally posted by eddy051
Look how crappy this games combat system is, just watch this video, I cannot believe they even went retail with this game. There is nothing to do in the game, and that was probally the two most boringness weeks of my life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZlCVL-zcaE

I don't really see your point in how this video proves how crappy the combat system is. The video shows someone fighting in 3d person which i personally like and you don't find in many other games. The person in the video doesn't really know how to fight because he strifes all the time. And this game offers a more realistic way to strifing which is slower then normal walking and thus making you more vurlnerable.

So please tell us what you think is wrong in the combat system.



hmm, you honestly couldnt see anything wrong with that video?

I've been looking for a new game, and I remembered FoMK, so I also went on youtube and watched some PvP videos... and I'm definitely not even going to try this game.

what do you mean theres nothing wrong with that video....?  who cares if he's fighting in 3rd person, the fact is it took about 5 minutes to kill one person.  what kind of shooter is this..?

I've been playing the Planetside free trial, and well, it can be pretty hard to kill people sometimes.  But if you put half a clip of rifle rounds into one person, or shoot someone at point blank range with an assault shotgun 5 times, they die.  that's just how shooter games are supposed to be... I also noticed the guy in the video was just repeatedly using auto-healing medkits on himself WHILE SHOOTING.  that's a pretty big game flaw.  you can use meds in planetside, but they don't help much and you can only use one every once in a while.

i see tons of things wrong with the combat in this game from that video...

You can automatically see that bullets don't do enough damage.  Hmm well yes it "increases longevity" of the battles, of course, because it takes 80 bullets to kill someone (unless you're ganking someone with crappy armor I bet), but why is this a problem?  Well, it eliminates a lot of the aspects of what a shooter game should be.

1. It highly reduces the effectiveness of stealth combat.  Let's say I'm the same level as that guy in that video, with the same armor/guns and everything, and I come up behind him and start shooting him in the back.  In other games, he'd be dead, because he wasn't watching his back/I used stealth.  But in this game it seems, he'll just have 94 HP as opposed to my 100 HP.  Ridiculous.

2. It highly reduces the effectiveness of guerilla tactics.  If I'm at the corner of an L-shaped hallway, peeking around the corner, and I see someone down at the very end of the hallway, normally I could use distance to my advantage and hide behind the corner of the hallway bend.  Let's say I do that in this game.... I could peek around the corner, hiding 1/2 of my body to reduce damage and start sniping him with an assault rifle.  But by the looks of that video, he'd have about, oh 94 HP by the time he runs over to me.

I'm a big fan of FPS/shooters... and the way I look at it, in most FPS games offer a variety of ways to fight, making the game fun.  You can sneak around and hide in bushes and snipe people when they dont expect it, or hide behind a wall or some crates to avoid being hit, or simply rely on your aim 100%.  It appears as if the only option in FOMK is to rely on aim and use medkits during battle, and rely on the damage of your high level weapon.  It's already not hard to aim, you point at the enemy and hold down your lmb... therefore higher level (rank, same thing) wins.  No tactics, no stealth, higher level wins, just like any other mmo.  Nah I wont be playin this.

  SmurfMagic

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Joined: 9/11/06
Posts: 655

Banned for the following reason: Trolling Gameplay discussion with his "Soe Sucks!" sentiment.

9/17/06 11:06:56 PM#14
almost as exciting as NGE SWG PVP !!! just without the fancy sparkly eye candy or glowy sticks.

  Coman

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Joined: 8/29/04
Posts: 1467

9/18/06 3:15:07 AM#15
DX_Intruder I infact like the figthing style. This is how an shooter needs to be....why not? Becouse it does not look like BF2 or CS:S? I personly like the way you fight, outflanking somone does infact make an HUGE differand. If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start. Also take into consideration that this game has more then combat. I'm happy we have this kind of system as it keep the average CS person out of the game and would mean that poeple would kill you at every turn. Distroying roleplay even more.
  rileyman1211

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Joined: 4/01/05
Posts: 66

"Lift your head look around, can't you see? We were born into, a world so bleak."

9/18/06 12:26:03 PM#16
Smoker, no offence, but seriously, 5k payouts.... wow... dude, that killed the factions, and when you took control of every faction, WTF, seriously dude

“Wakka wakka wakka” - Pac-Man

  User Deleted
9/19/06 8:30:33 PM#17

Originally posted by Coman
DX_Intruder I infact like the figthing style. This is how an shooter needs to be....why not? Becouse it does not look like BF2 or CS:S? I personly like the way you fight, outflanking somone does infact make an HUGE differand. If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start. Also take into consideration that this game has more then combat. I'm happy we have this kind of system as it keep the average CS person out of the game and would mean that poeple would kill you at every turn. Distroying roleplay even more.


well you kind of admitted that FoMK completely obliterated stealth and tactics with this sentence.

"If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start."

a ...head start?  Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds..?  If you shoot someone in the head 3 times their health should be in the negatives...  WAY in the negatives.. unless you were using a BB gun

  Coman

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Joined: 8/29/04
Posts: 1467

9/21/06 11:30:40 AM#18

Originally posted by DX_Intruder

Originally posted by Coman
DX_Intruder I infact like the figthing style. This is how an shooter needs to be....why not? Becouse it does not look like BF2 or CS:S? I personly like the way you fight, outflanking somone does infact make an HUGE differand. If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start. Also take into consideration that this game has more then combat. I'm happy we have this kind of system as it keep the average CS person out of the game and would mean that poeple would kill you at every turn. Distroying roleplay even more.


well you kind of admitted that FoMK completely obliterated stealth and tactics with this sentence.

"If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start."

a ...head start?  Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds..?  If you shoot someone in the head 3 times their health should be in the negatives...  WAY in the negatives.. unless you were using a BB gun


Why becouse all the other games have it or becouse you want it that way?
  srohek

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Joined: 6/05/04
Posts: 272

9/23/06 3:14:09 AM#19

Originally posted by DX_Intruder

Originally posted by Coman
DX_Intruder I infact like the figthing style. This is how an shooter needs to be....why not? Becouse it does not look like BF2 or CS:S? I personly like the way you fight, outflanking somone does infact make an HUGE differand. If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start. Also take into consideration that this game has more then combat. I'm happy we have this kind of system as it keep the average CS person out of the game and would mean that poeple would kill you at every turn. Distroying roleplay even more.


well you kind of admitted that FoMK completely obliterated stealth and tactics with this sentence.

"If you outflank someone and manage to hit him three time in the head you have an huge head start."

a ...head start?  Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds..?  If you shoot someone in the head 3 times their health should be in the negatives...  WAY in the negatives.. unless you were using a BB gun


You're stupid. If all it took was one headshot, then people could just pull out their gun and kill you instantly when you least expected. With the way the combat system currently is, it allows people with consistency, skill, and tactics to win fights.
  Snayke

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Joined: 9/09/06
Posts: 12

9/26/06 2:40:30 AM#20
Would be the most boring game if you get killed in 2 seconds to be honest.

Also, about the RP, with the introduction of civilian clothing I do believe RP will be returning to FoM when more players return to the the milestone 2 patch installments.  The larger the playerbase, the more RP opportunities that will be available.
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