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alaklor  2/05/08 9:35:38 PM

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The other nite in valdhome  me  80 ranger  my wife 78 cleric and my son  80 sk  mindlessly camping the Gatekeeper spawn .

I u7sing my track skills to see what else might be up , i noticed 8 names on track some  in the arena  i told zeksiz (my son) sk  hey why dont we kill  Named X  he says sure , all of sudden all names on track vanish ..

OK im like wtf  do /who  and i notice 5 chars all lvl 75 with guild Tag  In Motion ,thinking ot my self mm okie this guy got be using a marco hack of some sort . . I ask  him to please turn off the marcos in OOC he comes back with a few choice words i wont repeat.

Then he starts in with the tells  oh your accusing me of hacking huh and calls in his lackys .

Next thing i know there  5 unguilded  chars sitting next to me and my wife  all talking trash , name calling threating me and my son and my wife wiht Quote "your gonna exsperince  this "

Now me being a 8 year vet  to eq im like ya ok and blow it off as trash talking .,not 2 hours go by im banned for  Hacking .

OK  i do step one petition , i get zip so i call soe account support , i get you"ve been banned for hacking and it says for the last 23 days .. im like ok  nice gm edit logs cause if ya check my /move log  my range just got transfered  from Zeks  to tribunal  just 19 days ago .

So your saying i hacked for days i wasnt on tribunal ? He asnwer no , i need to check this . pause  few minutes go by . He answer  this isnt correct  i can see the logs arent correct , i said check my wife lgos and compare since i "m on fixed IP  they shuold be close  to the same - the last 2  .

The account support comes back with um does your ip start with pause oh wait   that cant be right it shows your logs are from soe .. meaning  my ip adress stated i logged into  soe at the time of hacking lol .. Hey gm if ya read this  next time dont leave soe's Finger Prints all over your bad chocie of  edit logs .

After some digging the Account support  told me that yes these logs where not legit they where edited and  they will look into it , so i wait days go by nothing .. i petition and petition  they bann my wife over petitioning saying she was abusing the petition system ? go figure .. so now if ya right and ya push the issue they bann ya ? YEP

After futher review from a 3 tier 2 gms  they could find certain chars in game that where named at the time this group of In Motion folks where making verbal threats , they tell me they cant unbann my account because Said gm that put in the false report had 3  SR  gm's  sign  off on it  .

One teir 2 gm said this was very bad because if it got out  the gaming community would be upset that 3 gm where involded in a unhanded skeme  to make cash  while on duty .

Is everquest dead  yes . here is why

1 gm 's are allowed to  bann for no reason at all with logs or not

2 Yes hacker are in the game and heavy , Heck they just cought 24  chars , that is 4 people boxing 6  in solteris using a hack to kill the whole zone did they get banned nope .Why ? cause one of them was a gm .

3Yes the player population is very low . most servers have maybe 1k players  logging in for raids  during the week .. at the very min .

At this point  i went to wow said welp it been fun but time for me to move on ..

Will this get fixed nope . did they bann my wife for no reason yes . for defending my self and my son .

after 8 years of loyal  playing this is what i get a GM with a laoded gun  shooting anyone he does'nt like , that in it self is scary .

Now ya want to flame me imm make this short so ya cant .

!  i have logs of all of this . 2 i have emails ot back up everything i said . and 3 there is no defense for the gm's altering a players logs  for any reason . NoNe

 

 

 
salvaje  2/05/08 9:39:13 PM

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SOE has a proven record of unethical behavior.  Surprised?  I'm not. 

The only winning move with SOE is not to pay.  Or play.

Call your bank and charge back the last year of your account payments.  That will hurt them where it counts.

Accuse SOE of fraud.  They are certainly guilty of it here.  Send your bank the chat logs. 

You will get your money back.  SOE will permaban you, but do you really want to do business with a company that will back a sleazy employee over someone who helps pay their salaries?

 

 

 

 

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Anofalye  2/05/08 11:06:20 PM

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The enemy is so dumb! They believe that WE are the enemy! - A famous orc commander.

I know that some GMs where cheating, a long time ago.

 

But beside TPing me out of the zone once...and training my group by accident another time* (F***ing nub), I have no guess they would be behaving badly, you prolly scare the GM for some reasons...or he is deadly bored.  The time he TP me out of the zone, he prolly have his blast reading my very unhappy OOC...There was about 30 froglocks in the group and they where missing 1 chanter for AoE...I was sure they would be dead and wiped, but I made it back in time somehow (strange now that I think of it).

 

*Adetia was in the group...she handles that, whatever way she did the GM left and she was pissed and other GMs spawn short after LOL...prolly Cybering with Adds-etia! :P

 

At any rate, I never experience abusive GMing in any other game.  I wonder why they do that in EQ.  The GMs must have another server where they can do everything they want?  No?  If you have another server to mess around as much as you want, there would be no point with risking to enrage the feeding hands.  I also never understand what the point of cheating was for someone all powerful?  Didn't SoE allow them to cheat on another server just so they know the game better?

 

I never see any clear hack used by any player in the game, that doesn't mean it never happen, but...I was playing a lot...so prior 2003, they either hide it well on my server or just not happen.

 

PS: Adetia will always be a Telle-wannabe if anyone reading this knows them. :P

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RedwoodSap  2/06/08 3:53:25 AM

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This doesn't surprise me as GMs and guides often showed favoritism to certain players and guilds in classic EQ and were corrupt when handling complaints against those players and guilds with bias rulings in favor of them. This is always a problem when you employ volunteer guides from the playerbase and allow GMs to socialize in game with players on their server.

SOE has a horrible track record of monitoring their staff accounts to make sure they are not abusing their powers. There was an infamous case of a GM, Kevin Smith I believe it was, the guy who co sponsored the first SOE gathering in San Diego with Cindy Archuleta before SOE hired Cindy and held those gatherings themselves.

Well anyways, this GM Kevin Smith would backup characters on the server he was a GM on, and remove items form those backed up characters and transfer them to his play character on the Lanys server with his GM character. GM characters back then could move between servers and he would then sell those rare items on Ebay or give them to his guildmates. Since Lanys was fairly new at the time, the uberguilds knew how many of each rare item had dropped, and when word got out that this one guild was equipped with several Veeshan Peek items that were unaccounted for, Lanys players started raising a stink on the forums.

SOE finally investigated after much prodding and uncovered what their employee GM Kevin Smith was doing. SOE fired him but would not comment on how many items were transfered into the Lanys economy and if they were all removed. That tainted Lanys forever from that point on IMO, so I started over on the next new server available.

I highly recommend you email George Scotto about this incident, if he is still in charge of customer service. He is the one guy I have found at SOE who really listens and tries to follow thru and do a good job. His email address should be gscotto@soe.sony.com. Hope that's right.

altfreak2  2/06/08 4:06:14 AM

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Big WOW, I feel really sorry for you. And to think I was considering eq after quitting world of warcraft... well, it's really good that you came out with this story, you turned at least one person away from this sort of stuff.

 
Solase  2/06/08 10:48:18 AM

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That's really sad to hear.  SOE is digging a ditch and I don't think they're going to get out of it.  I know from what I've read, if Lucasfilms could pull the plug on SWG, they would in a heart beat.  Everyone is getting fed up with them.  I still play EQ2 and have been flaming them a lot lately for not getting things fixed regarding the graphics engine going on 4 years now.  Sigh, really sad to devote so much time into characters and now feel pushed more and more to dump the SOE bandwagon altogether...

 
sebbonx  2/06/08 11:48:25 AM

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Kreiger had GM members on Tunare, they got GMs to clear Fear for them in classic, GM rez the raid, and then re-pop the zone. SOE is just pro-raider and anti-casual. They will not touch a raider and screw a casual in a second.

Thats why there is an entire "I hate SOE" sticky in Vanguard, and I am still laughing at Satan aka SOE whom owns that turd, I hope they paid Brad McThief a TON for that crappy game.

Eq is dead, death penalties, no low level groups, melee gimped, don't bother playing.

Rouan  2/06/08 3:06:31 PM

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So, you found one or more corrupt GMs and... you dropped the issue?  PM Zatozia on the SOE boards, write letters to Smedley, get the corrupt GM dealt with.  Hell, call costumer support.  All you do via petitioning again is allowing that corrupt GM to deal with you yet again and silence you.

And what you should have done was /report <name> every last person that swore at you.  Gives you evidence in some form in YOUR favor.

And the rest of you, there's a reason GMs have been impersonalized over the years and Guides (incidentally, Guides only have Guide powers on a seperate server from the ones they play on) now handle events almost exclusively.  Guess what?  To lessen favoritism.  Stop acting like SOE is telling their employees to screw people over.  Your baseless hate sickens me, is it so hard for you to find actual reasons to hate them that you have to make ones up?

 
Rouan  2/06/08 3:17:38 PM

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What I find fishy is he joined 3 years ago and just now posts?  And he was on the Zek server?  I thought Zek peeps gripe continually, wouldn't by now he'd have made a post here telling people to avoid EQ because of the state of his PVP server?

 
mackdawg19  2/06/08 3:40:13 PM

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No offense, and this has nothing really to do with the OP's statement, only the guy a few post's above. Please don't use the whole, type better english scenario. My brother, who has been posting on a certain forums board for over 10 years, still has bad grammer. Does that mean hes lying? And does it make him less of a person? NO. If your sitting around thinking the internet is some magical tool that makes you spell better as time goes on, then to that i say this, lol ..... gg ...... wtfbbq ... and the list goes on. To the OP, sorry to hear this. Hopefully you can move on to another game and not have to deal with bad business such as this. If anything, you could report SoE to BBB.

 
kestor  2/06/08 7:18:20 PM

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'LOST FIRES' is a well know guild on The Tribunal server. I see a good portion of members on each night , you could work something with your guild leader and let him handle that. Other than that i cant talk on what happened to you, i dont see any evidences of what you are talking from your side or Gm side.

Did you post on Everquest boards?

This little last for the road about hackers and their friends : http://stationsupport.wordpress.com/

Pretty weird if you ask me but well just like the real world

 

Good luck on your journey.

 
Rouan  2/07/08 1:23:41 AM

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Why the hell are you bringing up Lost Fires?  He doesn't even mention them.  There's nothing more they can do about it than anyone else.  If you catch a hacker, you petition and if he's swearing up a storm at you, you /report too.

 
Zorgo  2/07/08 8:22:28 AM