Trending Games | ArcheAge | WildStar | Guild Wars 2 | World of Warcraft

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,784,260 Users Online:0
Games:723  Posts:6,192,468
Hammerpoint Interactive | Official Site
MMOFPS | Genre:Horror | Status:Final  (rel 12/17/12)  | Pub:Hammerpoint Interactive
PVP:Yes | Distribution:Download | Retail Price:$30.00 | Pay Type:Free | Monthly Fee:Free
System Req: PC | Out of date info? Let us know!

2 Pages 1 2 » Search
37 posts found
  darkrain21

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/06/10
Posts: 250

 
OP  11/06/12 4:17:44 AM#1

Im sure there is a post like this already but I dont really fill like looking for it so here is mine.

PK in this game is a natural part of the upcoming popular sub genra of Zombie survival games, and to an extent adds a level of tension other pvp games just cant offer. Why cant other games offer that tension? Well that because you know at some point you are going to get stabbed in the back or shot in the face from close or long range its just a natural and often occurance in pvp games so you grow to expect it. What pvp does in a game like The War Z is add an element to the already fear factor of not knowing what coming.

Its an element that is fantastic fun and creative...but also annoying as all living hell.

I understand the reprocusions to trusting someone in this game ive been trusted and ive back stabbed and ive trusted and been back stabbed, and those deaths and kills are to me th most excussable means of PK in the game. Its a zombie apocalypse you should only trust people you know. These things add an excitment value. Just the other day i stood at gun point having an actual mexican stand off me pointing a shotgun another pointing a pistol and another with what looked to be an automatic. We were standing in the middle of smallville zombies sourrounding us and each of us had to make a decision to just back off or shoot and the survivor needing to run from the hordes of zombies that would then follow. Alas no one shot and we all walked away quitly with heads in intact and zombies non the wiser. These are the interations that can make this game truly great it was a real choice that the three of us had to make.

The annoying part of the PK system at current, there is no reprocusion other than getting a bandit title. You can sit and just wait by spawn points or if you have a rifle just wait slightly outside of safe zones and pop people who are just trying to get to their inventory. Ive seen people beat another player down even tho is was clear that the victim was un armed and looked to just be getting their character back into the game after the hour respawn timer. The biggest problem i see is people trying to treat this game like its Call of Duty or BattleField and their only objective isnt to survive but just kill other players.

Im glad the company is sticking firm to their disire to keep the PvP and big part of the survival experiance but also hope they work a way out to make it just and benifical in working together as it is killing one another. Ether way I am excited for this game and will be rent my own server just so if the pk is a problem i can take a break from it.

  Oriphus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/23/08
Posts: 335

11/06/12 11:38:55 AM#2

What? who cares xD game is rampant with hackers, can not go more than one hour at most without someone:

 

ESP

Teleport

Invisible

Speed hack

Fly

No wall clip

Zero spread shotgun

Aimbot

Invulnerable

 

Game is toast. Devs are incompetent  money grabbers.

And you worried about pk's in an open world full loot pvp game. sigh.

  GolbezTheLion

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

11/06/12 11:43:48 AM#3
Originally posted by Oriphus

What? who cares xD game is rampant with hackers, can not go more than one hour at most without someone:

 

ESP

Teleport

Invisible

Speed hack

Fly

No wall clip

Zero spread shotgun

Aimbot

Invulnerable

 

Game is toast. Devs are incompetent  money grabbers.

And you worried about pk's in an open world full loot pvp game. sigh.

Pretty obvious you don't even play or you would realize how absurd you sound.

I've never been killed by a hacker and have been playing for the last week and abit, it's not "rampant" at all, in fact it's actually pretty fucking rare.

  Oriphus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/23/08
Posts: 335

11/06/12 11:46:45 AM#4
Pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. I have played solid everyday until yesterday. hackers have just increased to a point that it is no longer worth playing anymore. First week i only came accross one hacker i could confirm...that was for the whole week. Now like i said, it is hard to get passed one hour.
  Oriphus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/23/08
Posts: 335

11/06/12 11:49:35 AM#5
Further more i would also like to say that the hacks i have posted are not hearsay, i have seen every single one of them. Not all at once. Some play smart and pretend they are not even hacking, some i guess just didnt buy the better hacking pack heh and some just run rampant over the whole server killing everyone in the space of about 20 mins. Wise up and get off my back.
  GhostGeisha

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/28/10
Posts: 296

11/06/12 11:49:41 AM#6

Never seen a hacker, been playing it for a week now.

I have tones of fun playing with friends but when i play alone it's harsh and somewhat boring.

  Buckarama

Novice Member

Joined: 11/18/03
Posts: 49

11/06/12 11:50:40 AM#7

This game looked good to me, but I got to thinking about the open world PK. I'm not going to pay for a game that lets me get killed by bored 12 year olds.

 

No sale, no how, and no way.

  GolbezTheLion

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

11/06/12 11:51:42 AM#8
Originally posted by Oriphus
Pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. I have played solid everyday until yesterday. hackers have just increased to a point that it is no longer worth playing anymore. First week i only came accross one hacker i could confirm...that was for the whole week. Now like i said, it is hard to get passed one hour.

Interesting, you play everyday (and I only began during the week when claims of hackers are most prevailant). Yet I've never encountered one and you seem to think they are around every corner.

How odd.

  Oriphus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/23/08
Posts: 335

11/06/12 11:52:57 AM#9

Man, i guess you guys just don't play near the good loot spawns xD.

I am in mumble with a guy who is playing right now and he lol'd saying the first thing he saw when he loaded in was a message on global of a tele hacker and to get out. certainly not uncommon.

  GolbezTheLion

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

11/06/12 11:55:07 AM#10
Originally posted by Oriphus
Further more i would also like to say that the hacks i have posted are not hearsay, i have seen every single one of them. Not all at once. Some play smart and pretend they are not even hacking, some i guess just didnt buy the better hacking pack heh and some just run rampant over the whole server killing everyone in the space of about 20 mins. Wise up and get off my back.

Nobody will debate the existence of them, that much is common knowledge by this point.

Wise up? If you're the one getting smoked by hackers on a regular basis you might want to take your own advice, it's pretty clear you're just bad at this game and want to have someone to lay the blame on, so you chose the most convenient scapegoat (hackers!!!!!!) and went on a forum rant.

I just introduced another friend to the game last night, we scavenged for hours and hours with no problem at all. I think you might want to improve your survival skills, that is the objective of the game, after all.

  GolbezTheLion

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

11/06/12 11:57:23 AM#11
Originally posted by Oriphus

Man, i guess you guys just don't play near the good loot spawns xD.

I am in mumble with a guy who is playing right now and he lol'd saying the first thing he saw when he loaded in was a message on global of a tele hacker and to get out. certainly not uncommon.

I'm at the best spawns daily, I'm not scared to go to them like some of you seem to be, it's just a game.

  Oriphus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/23/08
Posts: 335

11/06/12 11:57:55 AM#12
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Oriphus
Pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. I have played solid everyday until yesterday. hackers have just increased to a point that it is no longer worth playing anymore. First week i only came accross one hacker i could confirm...that was for the whole week. Now like i said, it is hard to get passed one hour.

Interesting, you play everyday (and I only began during the week when claims of hackers are most prevailant). Yet I've never encountered one and you seem to think they are around every corner.

How odd.

 

Look man, i told you to get off my back for gods sake -.-

 

[mod edit]

 

But lets go with the more obvious ones, like when you are in a deep cover position with a sniper miles away covering your team, a hopper logs in...does a 180 scout with nothing but his shotgun, instantly locks onto you and starts shooting at you....yeah real hard to spot those types of hackers, but like you say....they don't really exist....i don't even play the game.....

just what ever, you carry on believing what the hell you want lol. I won't be logging in again until hackers are dealt with and from what I am understanding from this company..this will prob be never.

 

later

 

EDIT: i am ofc just talking about the harder to spot hackers.....the others don't really need much explanation.

  Cakeisyummeh

Novice Member

Joined: 4/12/12
Posts: 211

11/06/12 11:58:00 AM#13
Originally posted by Oriphus

What? who cares xD game is rampant with hackers, can not go more than one hour at most without someone:

 

ESP

Teleport

Invisible

Speed hack

Fly

No wall clip

Zero spread shotgun

Aimbot

Invulnerable

 

Game is toast. Devs are incompetent  money grabbers.

And you worried about pk's in an open world full loot pvp game. sigh.

+1 Refund whilst you still can.

  Oriphus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/23/08
Posts: 335

11/06/12 12:01:44 PM#14
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Oriphus
Further more i would also like to say that the hacks i have posted are not hearsay, i have seen every single one of them. Not all at once. Some play smart and pretend they are not even hacking, some i guess just didnt buy the better hacking pack heh and some just run rampant over the whole server killing everyone in the space of about 20 mins. Wise up and get off my back.

Nobody will debate the existence of them, that much is common knowledge by this point.

Wise up? If you're the one getting smoked by hackers on a regular basis you might want to take your own advice, it's pretty clear you're just bad at this game and want to have someone to lay the blame on, so you chose the most convenient scapegoat (hackers!!!!!!) and went on a forum rant.

I just introduced another friend to the game last night, we scavenged for hours and hours with no problem at all. I think you might want to improve your survival skills, that is the objective of the game, after all.

yeah, have fun running in the bushes miles away from anywhere with nothing but a bag full of hats slowly starving to death.

Frankly, sounds like you trying to 'big up' your playing experience in order to defend your precious game. Hackers everywhere, get over it, game is ruined.

  GolbezTheLion

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

11/06/12 12:27:06 PM#15
Originally posted by Oriphus

yeah, have fun running in the bushes miles away from anywhere with nothing but a bag full of hats slowly starving to death.

Frankly, sounds like you trying to 'big up' your playing experience in order to defend your precious game. Hackers everywhere, get over it, game is ruined.

You keep telling to me to "get off your back" (even though I'm not on it) and then go on to create new reasons for me to respond to you...

Running in the bushes miles away from anywhere with a bag full of hats?

That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard, I'm logged at the airfield right now, fully geared, carrying a military grade weapon. Some of us aren't frightened of legit PvP and the risk of losing our shit. If hackers were so prevailant, I wouldn't even take half the stuff I'm geared up in out of my bank due to fear of immediate loss.

Using catch phrases like "big up" to try and prove you actually have a point, only serves to prove my own point. Defend a game that a little over a week ago I had nothing but negative things to say about? Yeah, time to inform yourself of the real situation before you end up looking even more foolish than you already do. The difference is I can take the time to step back and see the game for what it is, and the potential it has, and look past the current flaws to come up with an objective viewpoint.

Sorry, but hacking is nowhere near as large scale as you attempt to make it seem. It's a fairly rare occurence, one that is so rare I have yet to experience it after a week of daily play (not my definition of "rampant" and pretty sure nobody elses definition of the word either).

Frankly, it just seems like you got killed repeatedly and are ranting on internet forums trying to draw attention to yourself while you make blatantly false statements to try and hurt the game out of spite.

You don't like the game? Move on, nuff said.

  Painlezz

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/30/11
Posts: 628

11/06/12 1:42:48 PM#16

Why are all these PK / Full Loot games full of so many d-bags.

 

Just reading people calling eachother names in this thread is sad.  Dark Fall or whatever was exactly the same.  So much hate.  One guy thinks the game is amazing and everyone who doesn't is a noob and bad.  The rest think the game is full of hackers...

 

Very simple...

 

1) There are live streams of people hacking in this game so you cannot argue that point

2) There are lots of videos of hacking, again, easy to find

 

I would love a Zombie MMO.  Dead Island was a lot of fun, but very limited.  Only reason I probably enjoyed that game was because it was single player and no hackers because I was the only person in the game...

  GolbezTheLion

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

11/06/12 1:45:13 PM#17
Originally posted by kbkid73

For every one hacker that exists there are 20 people making false hack claims.

Exactly!

Either way I'm enjoying myself in game (as are you) and no amount of internet "belly-aching"  is going to change that. My main char is "The Road Warrior" if you ever see me on give me a shout...or put a bullet in my brain (depending on your play style) haha either way good times will be had by all

They should be patching in the friends list this week, according to one of the latest dev updates, I wlll definitely add you when they have it in. Love the name, classic post apoc.

I don't shoot friendlies, and I am strictly neutral. I only open fire if someone in the direct vicinity has a weapon drawn and refuses to holster it after being asked.

I'll shoot you a PM with my character names.

 

 

  SoulStain

Novice Member

Joined: 9/07/12
Posts: 204

11/06/12 2:02:04 PM#18
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Oriphus

[mod edit]

 

Those were the daayss.

 

  Oriphus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/23/08
Posts: 335

11/06/12 2:24:19 PM#19

In closing I will just point out this last little fact for you. You claim you have not seen any, let me tell you...you HAVE been killed by hackers, they ARE more widespread than you will allow yourself to believe in your rabid defence of a game you are enjoying. I tried to point out how it can be difficult to spot some hackers, an ESP hacker is very hard to detect, given my position with our team i was able to see quite clearly those cases of being sudeny spotted and shot at with no apparent explanation beyond unless they had some form of  ESP...hence the god damn name of the hack and yes they were many many more times than you want to believe people use these low key hacks. So i can guarantee you have been killed by hackers....you just don't know it or refuse to aknowledge it.

 

O.K you have been fortunate not to have a visit by the flying supermen, like i said, give it some more game time, he wil find you. And after the n'th time of being killed with zero chance by these guys you will finaly wipe the haze away from your eyes.

 

I would also like to say we managed to kill a good few hackers :P boy do they rage.

 

 

  GolbezTheLion

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

11/06/12 2:24:27 PM#20
Originally posted by Oriphus


The bit you seem to be missing is in your amazing logic is my obvious hatred towards the game.

Obvious indeed.

As a long time Darkfall player, I am not new to this type of gameplay, infact this game is FAR less punishing than DF.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I've played Darkfall since the launch of EU, and am well aware of the differences between the games. DF was one game that was legitimately overrun with hackers and exploiters for the first two years of the game.

What is your point exactly? Other than to explain you're not new to FFA Full Loot PvP?

You see the problem with all your posts is you seem to assume to much about me and my position.

Ah, but you're doing the exact same thing. We're both guilty of that, I can admit it though, can you?

I actualy like this game, i hope they can do something about all the hacking, my worry is that they won't due to what others have being posting on the state of war inc. I also saw potential in this game but now i do not believe (from what i have seen to date) that they will reach it.

The game is in alpha presently, if you're willing to give up on it now then just do so and leave the rest of us to support the game and it's future in peace. The game has only been publicly playable since the 15th of last month, twenty one days total, and the fact that you're throwing in the towel at this early stage is quite telling.

Game is infested. If they actualy start to get on top of the problem, I will log back in and start playing again. 

They banned two of the most prolific streamers yesterday, seems like they are making an effort to me.

Thanks for the fun though

This is considered fun to you? That speaks volumes about your character as a individual.

End. 

Is it really? We can only hope.

 

2 Pages 1 2 » Search