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City of Steam Forum » General Discussion » What's the point of a browser client?

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  adam_nox

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OP  11/17/12 12:11:40 AM#1

I mean really, why?  It's not like it will run in a browser on a mobile platform.  Will it even run in linux or mac?   It's not like it gets around the normal hardware requirements for a game with decent graphics.

 

Just don't get it.

  Kamikazego

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11/17/12 12:19:48 AM#2
Originally posted by adam_nox

I mean really, why?  It's not like it will run in a browser on a mobile platform.  Will it even run in linux or mac?   It's not like it gets around the normal hardware requirements for a game with decent graphics.

 

Just don't get it.

I'm not an expert, so I'm not entirely sure. However, I would imagine that one of the main things would be the bandwidth issue. If they had a downloadable client, it's possible that they would have a huge up-front issue when everyone is trying to download the client.  Not to mention that it probably requires more bandwidth overall.

Another things could possibly be due to their type of expertise.  Coding in the browser is surely different than other types of coding.

  CoS_Ian

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11/20/12 7:20:48 PM#3
Originally posted by adam_nox

I mean really, why?  It's not like it will run in a browser on a mobile platform.  Will it even run in linux or mac?   It's not like it gets around the normal hardware requirements for a game with decent graphics.

 

Just don't get it.

Our main reason is accessibility; anyone with modest hardware can run the game, and do so easily from a browser without having to download massive amounts of data to start playing (or even update for that matter). It can run Mac, and anything that can run Unity, essentially. It can be awkward to play on certain mobile apps, of course, but we're at least thinking of having companion apps to still check up on the game in other ways.

Kamikazego's right, too, we gambled on Unity back when it was relatively new, and have been learning and using it as it grew. So far we're very happy with its capabilities and potential for future development.

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  CoS_Dorian

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11/20/12 7:23:02 PM#4

Was posting a reply but Ian beat me to this. :P

 

City of Steam-Unity3D-based web game to be expected next year.
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  lizardbones

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11/20/12 7:28:33 PM#5


Originally posted by CoS_Ian

Originally posted by adam_nox I mean really, why?  It's not like it will run in a browser on a mobile platform.  Will it even run in linux or mac?   It's not like it gets around the normal hardware requirements for a game with decent graphics.   Just don't get it.
Our main reason is accessibility; anyone with modest hardware can run the game, and do so easily from a browser without having to download massive amounts of data to start playing (or even update for that matter). It can run Mac, and anything that can run Unity, essentially. It can be awkward to play on certain mobile apps, of course, but we're at least thinking of having companion apps to still check up on the game in other ways.

Kamikazego's right, too, we gambled on Unity back when it was relatively new, and have been learning and using it as it grew. So far we're very happy with its capabilities and potential for future development.




Unity is also pushing out to the mobile market and to other operating systems (Linux anyone?). I didn't see anything about a Unity Client outside of the browser. Are there any plans to allow using the Unity Client outside of the browser?

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  Torvaldr

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11/20/12 7:48:40 PM#6
Other than the escape key versus full screen issue Unity has worked just fine for me.  The game is fun, full featured, and I find it very immersive.  That is what matters most to me.  I've played games that have dedicated clients that haven't provided the same level of immersion.

Curse you AquaScum!

  CoS_Ian

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11/21/12 4:43:07 AM#7
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by CoS_Ian

Originally posted by adam_nox I mean really, why?  It's not like it will run in a browser on a mobile platform.  Will it even run in linux or mac?   It's not like it gets around the normal hardware requirements for a game with decent graphics.   Just don't get it.
Our main reason is accessibility; anyone with modest hardware can run the game, and do so easily from a browser without having to download massive amounts of data to start playing (or even update for that matter). It can run Mac, and anything that can run Unity, essentially. It can be awkward to play on certain mobile apps, of course, but we're at least thinking of having companion apps to still check up on the game in other ways.

 

Kamikazego's right, too, we gambled on Unity back when it was relatively new, and have been learning and using it as it grew. So far we're very happy with its capabilities and potential for future development.




Unity is also pushing out to the mobile market and to other operating systems (Linux anyone?). I didn't see anything about a Unity Client outside of the browser. Are there any plans to allow using the Unity Client outside of the browser?

It's a possibility we've toyed with for the future, but for now, we want to further stabilize the game through testing and optimization (we're currently in Closed Beta). After that, and if we see enough demand for it, then we can definitely start looking further into making a client version.

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  lizardbones

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11/21/12 6:02:21 AM#8

Cool. I'll put the rest of my thoughts on the official forum. :-)

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  syntax42

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11/21/12 9:01:44 PM#9
The Unity engine has been used in games on Android.  The advantage of using it is the same as any other game engine:  standardization and optimization.  Engines like DirectX, Unreal, and OpenGL are desinged to unite PC hardware, mostly.  Unity seems to make it easier to deploy a game to browsers without a large initial download, but sacrifices overall graphics quality and loses some immersion due to being played in a browser window.  Personally, the lack of a fullscreen feature is the reason I avoid browser games.  I don't know if Unity made it possible to make full screen viewing windows for browser games yet.
  rhinok

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11/27/12 5:44:45 AM#10
Originally posted by syntax42
The Unity engine has been used in games on Android.  The advantage of using it is the same as any other game engine:  standardization and optimization.  Engines like DirectX, Unreal, and OpenGL are desinged to unite PC hardware, mostly.  Unity seems to make it easier to deploy a game to browsers without a large initial download, but sacrifices overall graphics quality and loses some immersion due to being played in a browser window.  Personally, the lack of a fullscreen feature is the reason I avoid browser games.  I don't know if Unity made it possible to make full screen viewing windows for browser games yet.

You can play City of Steam in a full screen browser window.  No lack of immersion there!

  Karahandras

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12/01/12 6:02:11 PM#11
Originally posted by syntax42
The Unity engine has been used in games on Android.  The advantage of using it is the same as any other game engine:  standardization and optimization.  Engines like DirectX, Unreal, and OpenGL are desinged to unite PC hardware, mostly.  Unity seems to make it easier to deploy a game to browsers without a large initial download, but sacrifices overall graphics quality and loses some immersion due to being played in a browser window.  Personally, the lack of a fullscreen feature is the reason I avoid browser games.  I don't know if Unity made it possible to make full screen viewing windows for browser games yet.

They did, you can play fullscreen in games like battlestar galactica aswell(if you want to).

  Torvaldr

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12/02/12 12:23:43 PM#12
One thing Unity could do to really give their engine a more solid feel is offer better fullscreen handling to the developers in the api.  The escape key issue should be a higher priority on their list.

Curse you AquaScum!