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Elder Scrolls Online Forum » General Discussion » What will I be missing if I avoid Cyrodil completely?

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  Anofalye

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OP  3/31/13 7:15:36 PM#1

Beside the stories, landscapes, PvP and some players...

 

Will I be missing anything else?  Or will somethings be extremely rare?

 

Will I be able to travel to everywhere else?

- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - René Levesque about the denial NO on the poll to his dream, project and goal. (Free translation)

  DavisFlight

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3/31/13 7:34:05 PM#2
You'll be missing the only decent sounding part of the game.
  Sentnl

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3/31/13 7:39:57 PM#3
Originally posted by DavisFlight
You'll be missing the only decent sounding part of the game.

This.

ESO wont be some roleplaying jizz fest, it's hopefully going to have some competitive RvRvR (Although I'm not sure how their.. cloud server thing will effect that)

I sometimes play under the alias "Exposed". Don't tell anybody.

  jtcgs

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3/31/13 7:43:04 PM#4
You will be missing the focus of the game, this isnt TES, its war in a closed off invisible box where it magically cannot reach your homeland. Everything you mentioned is just the funnel, the end of the funnel is themepark PvP. So, if you are not going to PvP, dont bother with the game, they are not making it for RPG fans.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Sentnl

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3/31/13 7:46:26 PM#5
Originally posted by jtcgs
You will be missing the focus of the game, this isnt TES, its war in a closed off invisible box where it magically cannot reach your homeland. Everything you mentioned is just the funnel, the end of the funnel is themepark PvP. So, if you are not going to PvP, dont bother with the game, they are not making it for RPG fans.

Oh pleasseee, the war never came to your homeland in any ES game, look at the last joke of an ES game - Skyrim. Where you could murder key figures in the realm and nothing would happen... where you could murder towns with no dramatic consequence... Ugh, the hypocrisy with ES fanboys...

I sometimes play under the alias "Exposed". Don't tell anybody.

  ZombieKen

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3/31/13 7:47:21 PM#6
Originally posted by Anofalye

Will I be able to travel to everywhere else?

 

From what I understand, if you roll alts on the other factions, you can access most of the content other than Cyrodil.

 

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  Sentnl

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3/31/13 7:49:13 PM#7
Originally posted by XAPKen
Originally posted by Anofalye

Will I be able to travel to everywhere else?

 

From what I understand, if you roll alts on the other factions, you can access most of the content other than Cyrodil.

 

As far as we've been told at this point, when you hit 50, you can unlock another factions territory, and when you complete that, you can unlock the third. Increasing difficulty/loot or some nonsense.

I think it was also said that it would be instanced, and you wouldn't see opposing players...

I sometimes play under the alias "Exposed". Don't tell anybody.

  jtcgs

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3/31/13 7:53:10 PM#8
Originally posted by Sentnl

Oh pleasseee, the war never came to your homeland in any ES game, look at the last joke of an ES game - Skyrim. Where you could murder key figures in the realm and nothing would happen... where you could murder towns with no dramatic consequence... Ugh, the hypocrisy with ES fanboys...

 The only war in Skyrim was between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks...and they DID fight right there in Skyrim. There was no other war taking place. Ugh, the hypocrisy with DaoC fanboys...

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Sentnl

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Posts: 79

3/31/13 8:08:23 PM#9
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Sentnl

Oh pleasseee, the war never came to your homeland in any ES game, look at the last joke of an ES game - Skyrim. Where you could murder key figures in the realm and nothing would happen... where you could murder towns with no dramatic consequence... Ugh, the hypocrisy with ES fanboys...

 The only war in Skyrim was between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks...and they DID fight right there in Skyrim. There was no other war taking place. Ugh, the hypocrisy with DaoC fanboys...

I never played daoc, seeing as that's your only argument, I suppose I win, but I will grant you this horse raddish.

I never noticed a war going on between anyone in Skyrim, just a bunch of silly dialogue, and I killed some guys, and I did some quests that didn't have any effect on anything... Tell me again how Skyrim was such an amazing game that ESO wont live up to...

I sometimes play under the alias "Exposed". Don't tell anybody.

  DavisFlight

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3/31/13 8:11:32 PM#10
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by DavisFlight
You'll be missing the only decent sounding part of the game.

This.

ESO wont be some roleplaying jizz fest, it's hopefully going to have some competitive RvRvR (Although I'm not sure how their.. cloud server thing will effect that)

Well yeah, the mega server and the fact that you can go to the other realms pretty much ruins the RvR.

  jtcgs

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3/31/13 9:00:09 PM#11
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Sentnl

Oh pleasseee, the war never came to your homeland in any ES game, look at the last joke of an ES game - Skyrim. Where you could murder key figures in the realm and nothing would happen... where you could murder towns with no dramatic consequence... Ugh, the hypocrisy with ES fanboys...

 The only war in Skyrim was between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks...and they DID fight right there in Skyrim. There was no other war taking place. Ugh, the hypocrisy with DaoC fanboys...

I never played daoc, seeing as that's your only argument, I suppose I win, but I will grant you this horse raddish.

I never noticed a war going on between anyone in Skyrim, just a bunch of silly dialogue, and I killed some guys, and I did some quests that didn't have any effect on anything... Tell me again how Skyrim was such an amazing game that ESO wont live up to...

 As you defend a game that gives you an entire world at war...that wont effect anything because its behind a wall...you win!

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Sovrath

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3/31/13 10:35:56 PM#12
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Sentnl

Oh pleasseee, the war never came to your homeland in any ES game, look at the last joke of an ES game - Skyrim. Where you could murder key figures in the realm and nothing would happen... where you could murder towns with no dramatic consequence... Ugh, the hypocrisy with ES fanboys...

 The only war in Skyrim was between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks...and they DID fight right there in Skyrim. There was no other war taking place. Ugh, the hypocrisy with DaoC fanboys...

I never played daoc, seeing as that's your only argument, I suppose I win, but I will grant you this horse raddish.

I never noticed a war going on between anyone in Skyrim, just a bunch of silly dialogue, and I killed some guys, and I did some quests that didn't have any effect on anything... Tell me again how Skyrim was such an amazing game that ESO wont live up to...

Actually, as a poit of note, you did come across groups of imperials and storm cloaks fighting.

  artemisentr4

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3/31/13 10:46:23 PM#13
Originally posted by Sentnl
Originally posted by XAPKen
Originally posted by Anofalye

Will I be able to travel to everywhere else?

 

From what I understand, if you roll alts on the other factions, you can access most of the content other than Cyrodil.

 

As far as we've been told at this point, when you hit 50, you can unlock another factions territory, and when you complete that, you can unlock the third. Increasing difficulty/loot or some nonsense.

I think it was also said that it would be instanced, and you wouldn't see opposing players...

If you are PvE only, this is what I see. Playing each faction to see all the PvE content. Then the adventure zones may be out after that for more difficult PvE. It will probably come down to how well the PvP ends up. If there are problems with the PvP, they may put more into the PvE adventure zones to keep the PvE players happy. Because the PvP players will abandon ship very quickly if there are problems.

“How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
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  Qallidexz

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3/31/13 11:55:13 PM#14
Originally posted by Anofalye

Beside the stories, landscapes, PvP and some players...

 

Will I be missing anything else?  Or will somethings be extremely rare?

 

Will I be able to travel to everywhere else?

 

Everything.

  User Deleted
4/01/13 1:58:26 AM#15
AvA oriented pvp is meant to be the end game of TESO. Its the whole reason they are not including other forms of PVP and end game activities at launch. They want to get as many people as they can involved in AvA right from the start. Skip it and you are missing out on the long term hook per say.
  ElRenmazuo

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4/01/13 2:05:52 AM#16
This game is just going to be another souless pvp game with a crap background story used as an excuse to pvp. these guys hate those guys so capture their keeps and go kill their emperor so someone else can take it back later repeat and rinse whoopee doo...

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  Siug

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Posts: 1145

4/01/13 2:19:42 AM#17
Yup I'm afraid it will be yet another PvP garbage with PvE lacking in most aspects. I'm not sure anymore if I'll buy it because I'd be mostly interested in TES PvE.
  GreenWidow

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4/01/13 2:22:14 AM#18

@OP

You will miss the entire point of this non-TES game.  PVP

Zenimax is making a PVP oriented game because they are under the delusion that this will succeed.

When the few, very loudmouthed, pvp people get tired of the same old crap they've seen with different skins they will jump ship quickly just like in GW2 and the several dozen other games whose designers ignored the PVE crowd when we told them it was a stupid plan.

No you cannot go everywhere.  You must grind your ass off to 50 and then you can go to an instanced version of the next area devoid of people and pointless in the extreme if you are playing this as an MMO.

After more pointless grinding you may go to the third area...also devoid of players for more utterly pointless grinding.

The concept of exploration is LOCKED  - can't do it

The concept of character design freedom LOCKED - can't do it

Races are LOCKED - can't join and play with your friends unless they pick your faction

Skills are LOCKED by Race/Faction

 

This is not TES.  It's PVP with TES names. 

Welcome to another 3 month wonder that will be F2P in 6 months or less because the designers are dumbasses.

“Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil. Never back away from an enemy. Either fight or surrender. It is not enough to say I will not be evil. Evil must be fought wherever it is found.”The Iron Code"

  ElRenmazuo

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4/01/13 2:41:29 AM#19
How can two of my favorite game companys fuck up this bad seriously? I mean bioware with swtor/EA and now Bethesda letting daoc devs do the mmo of their best IP.  Bethesda better not mess up the Fallout mmo.

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  Panzerbase

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4/01/13 2:53:35 AM#20
Wait until the company gets desperate and starts offering discounts, free trials, or some version of FTP. At the very least you won't get ripped off as bad and can say you did the limited PVE for completeness. How anyone could have thought this was a good idea is beyond me, another IP burnt to the ground. 
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