"sandbox sandbox sandbox, WoW clone! THEME PARK! WoW clone sand box, theme park sandbox WoW clone! LOL FAIL. F2P P2W SANDBOX WoW clone theme park. $OE ACTIVISION BLIZZARD WOW CLONE THEMEPARK SANDBOX!!!"

This is basically what most of the posts on this site look like to me.

you can't blame themt tho. Devs keep pumping out mmo's making tons from intial box sales and first few months then put it into maintenance mode and just milk whatever they can get. Ppl keep spending money on these games like starwars so gotta expect this.

Originally posted by Hurvart

When will they learn?

lol never it seems...

this industry is incredible... the vast majority of it is stunningly clueless and seemingly incapable of learning from the past example of others.

I expect the average Joe working on the game has a sinking feeling of dread though,  after seeing the TORtanic flounder and then looking at the model they have themselves adopted.

IMO, from what we have read so far, I sincerely hope Zenimax are thoroughly punished  for yet anither clone game with average visuals and a stunning lack of ambition and imagination in their gameplay.

Neverwinter looks more attractive then this right, and that's Cryptic for lords sake... Would you fancy going toe to toe with Archeage with their feature list if this was your game? I wouldn't...

Originally posted by busdriver

Originally posted by Loke666

They did not steal GW2s PvP, the lead designer of this game is one of the guys who invented the system for DaoC.

That's actually the only positive thing going for this game.

Don't forget WAR. xD

When i first saw that ESO was officially announced i expected to walk in and see a beautiful sandbox or sandpark game. What I got was a somewhat WoW clone. Yes SO far ESO does some stuff differently but it looks like a cross between rift and wow (graphically). They need to remove all instances, have full pvp loot for FFA servers, Player housing anywhere in the world. If i wanna make a home in a cave i cleared out i should be able to. Honestly remove any link between ES and i would be fine with it. But calling this a ES game is a slap in the face to Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. My last hope for a decent, sandbox is Life is Feudal, and Archeage.

When I first saw the annoncement this was exactly what I expected... Unfortunately... and all I could think were "Awww... Sh*t.".

I'm usually very open to games, from SW:TOR, to Fallen Earth, to Darkfall I believe in giving games a chance and taking them for what they are. Problem with TESO is that it's Nothing like TES from what I can see.. It feels rather like an abomination that anything else.

I look at the screens and find myself thinking: "They're gonna make my beloved Skyrim into That!?"

Unless they totally change direction, I really think this game will flop badly. They obviously haven't understood what the TES audience want or even who the TES audience is...... In my humble opinion, of course.

I mean after the flop of Swtor (IMO) if any dev makes any sort of game resembling a wow clone. They are comitting financial suicide. It honestly boggles my mind who they keep doing this. Atleast we are headed in the right direction with games like TERA, GW2, AA, and many indie mmos.

P.s. I would like to thank the OP for showing me Embers of Caerus. Looks awesome.