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Elder Scrolls Online Forum » General Discussion » To buy or give it a miss.

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  SpottyGekko

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 3065

4/30/14 12:05:39 PM#21

The game is perfectly playable currently, although some things (certain quests and class skills) do have some issues.

 

If you are a fast leveler, these bugs may become an issue for you. If you're impatient, they can become a serious issue. I'm an extremely slow leveler (even though I have over 200 hours /played), and I've not experienced a single quest bug yet.

 

But as everyone has said already, the longer you wait, the fewer bugs there will be. Look how smooth WoW is these days. If you're prepared to wait, more patches and fixes will go in by the time you eventually start playing.

 

There's no rush, the game will still be around for a looong time... 

  Kuinn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 2093

4/30/14 1:12:50 PM#22

Those who had more bugs will say no, those who avoided bugs will say yes, in a nutshell for the reasons you listed.

 

If you dont get affected much by bugs, I say it's a very good game. I've enjoyed it a lot more than I expected (didnt expect much though) but I've mostly been soloing and been having this big adventure and exploration thing going on. Most of the multiplayer aspects I've done is limited to chat, trading, and some world events and boss zergs.

 

Really enjoying the game currently, but I dont see much longevity for it unless you like gear grind like every other themepark for end game, but that's another topic.

  Vynt

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/19/04
Posts: 601

4/30/14 1:21:25 PM#23

Someone mentioned flipping a coin. That could be beneficial if you look at it differently.

Heads you buy it, tails you don't. Based on how you react to the toss you will know what you want to do. If it comes up tails and you're bummed it was tails, that means you want it. If it is heads and you're like hmm, then you don't really want it.

Other than that, box price will probably drop in a month or 2, so you could get cheaper and there will be more fixes. If money isn't an issue, just buy it, no big deal.

  keithian

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 3029

4/30/14 1:56:08 PM#24

OP,

First, asking these forums which have many of the same people posting the same thing over and over again in every thread because they dislike the game since before it was released isn't the best place to ask. I strongly believe there is a disconnect between the forums and reviews and the average player currently playing. I have nothing really to base that off of other than the multiple guilds I am in keep drastically increasing in size, the feedback I hear in chat and through other guildies and friends, and my own enjoyment. Others are obviously experiencing different things. 

What I will say is the following:

1) You and I have exactly the same love of the same things and I really like the game a lot. It is the most addicted I've been since my first MMO over a decade ago. Others have captured me for chunks of time, but they didn't have me as addicted as this. So if you are asking someone with similar needs, I think this is a VERY strong game.

2) On that note, there are things that even as a fan I have to acknowledge. They could have done a better job making the world feel even more alive. Even though to me it feels more alive than games like SWTOR where all NPCs just stand still, they could have made it even more alive, make anchors more than zerg fests, have them influence areas or towns, make some things more dynamic even if it meant borrowing the repetitive scripts GW2 offered (which by the way I got bored of that game by level 20-25 but continue to end level anyway lol). Some of the building designs are repetitive and the public dungeons and public events in general have little difficulty through level 50 because too many people doing the same thing removes all difficulty. To me the game is more exciting when I don't have 15 people spamming the same event or boss lol.

The server issues, some quest bugs, bots, features that break like party chat, guild banks, etc as well as spam have been very frustrating at times. However I expected all of that. As a veteran MMOer, you have two options, at least wait until the next 5GB patch which is due out in a week or two, wait until 2-3 months where most performance issues will be resolved, or dive in knowing that the charm of the game in my eyes outweighs these common MMO issues. There are frustrations with grouping which I'm not going to go into detail about, but I think those things will improve over time.

As far as what is missing, they delivered just about everything they promised (unlike games like TOR that had to strip out an entire PVP planet and still got an 8.7 review on this site). Most of what people are complaining are missing as far as options or features were deliberately excluded as they weren't trying to copy every MMO before it and like with everything else people resist change and what they are accustomed to. No chat bubbles, no minimap, no auction house, etc...to me..who cares. I prefer things not cluttering my User Interface and most of what is missing can be added through the Mod community (including a minimap).

There is NO OTHER MMO themepark that offers the exploration this game offers (in my opinion), so if you like themepark games and you like exploring, this is #1. You will not get that through the psuedo explorer class in Wildstar which to me is a joke. 

Anyway, good luck with your decisioning.

 

 

There Is Always Hope!

  Rattenmann

Elite Member

Joined: 12/08/05
Posts: 352

4/30/14 2:02:38 PM#25
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by alkarionlog
if you missed the betas and all, I say wait, give then time for at least fix the bugs or the f2p will hit, if you are that bored and don't care to toss money, you can try, but serious have better games around

What MMO is out there, New, that is as good, or better than ESO?

 

Dont say Wildstar. I cant stand the graphic style. Gives me a headache just to look at.

 

Why does a game have to be new to be a consideration? About 50% of the "old" games are better then ESO.

MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  Manasong

Novice Member

Joined: 2/25/14
Posts: 194

P2P elitist

4/30/14 2:11:23 PM#26

Solo PVE is awesome, although the lvl1-50 is very easy VR is much more harder and fun.

Group PVE is rather broken and punishing actually, but not the instanced dungeons, they were always fun.

Cyrodiil is broken, immortal vampires everywhere, lag and unresponsive combat. http://www.twitch.tv/prydatv/c/4091868 This is pretty much the future of Cyrodiil with AoE caps, very similar to GW2.

I'm not subbing until they at least fix Cyrodiil.

Some quests have a tendency to bug, requiring you to relog for you to be put into another "phase" that is not broken. Also bots and gold spammers are a problem, but so far I have only seen them on the first zone.

  sacredcow4

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/07/04
Posts: 197

4/30/14 2:14:57 PM#27

You will enjoy it for a while, but it won't be your new home. I think SWOTOR was worth the money 110%. I quit about 2 weeks after hitting max level when it first came out though. I would buy it and play it again if I had to redo the decision. ESO is in the same boat. It's a fun theme park, but once you've been on the same rides so many times you get sick of waiting in line for your turn.

Personally, I got a refund after the dupe exploit. I enjoyed it, but I had no illusions of it being more than 1-2 months of enjoyment.

Heaven and Hell is debatable - Karma is not.

  Erda

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/26/14
Posts: 109

4/30/14 2:15:47 PM#28

I'm certainly enjoying the game--both as an Elder Scrolls game and an MMO but as others have said, if you are on the fence, perhaps wait a month or so for some of the kinks to be worked out.  I play ESO in small segments to enjoy the journey.   Being such a quest driven game filled with tons of lore, I could be quickly burned out if I tried rushing though it.  I can't play the game in big chunks of time for some reason compared to some other MMOs out there.  Not sure what it is since I enjoy the game.  I sort of did the same with Skyrim too---played it in increments to enjoy the stories and atmosphere.  I know that the slower pace of the game and all of the quests could drive some players nuts. 

There are a few things though that I definitely don't like MMO wise.   I'm not a big fan of the whole auction house system.   I also have mixed emotions on the mega server concept.   I am far from the veteran ranks being only level 22 with my main however I can see frustration leveling through just quests.  I'm a big believer in allowing players alternative leveling means. 

As an MMO, I'm also concerned about longevity but I share this concern for any themepark game.   Don't know if ESO will reel me in for years or whether it will be for a few months.  Much to be seen.

If you liked the previous Elder Scrolls games, I would say go for it.  If you found them bland or boring, then ESO may not be the game for you.

Good luck and let us know what you decide!

  JoeyMMO

Novice Member

Joined: 10/09/11
Posts: 1334

To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

4/30/14 3:40:51 PM#29
Wait a few months, they still have tons of stuff to fix.

  udon

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 1631

4/30/14 3:50:10 PM#30
Originally posted by JoeyMMO
Wait a few months, they still have tons of stuff to fix.

Meh I might be run over by a bus on my way to work tomorrow.  Given the drivers in the town I live in that's actually a much larger chance than one might think.  If I think something is enjoyable I am more inclined to just do it now rather than what for sometime where it might be better or cheaper.  ESO is worth it to me to be playing today.  Maybe it's different for you and that's fine but it was well worth the $60 I spent on it so far and will be worth a few months of sub's at least.

  Daxamar

Novice Member

Joined: 10/13/05
Posts: 559

4/30/14 3:50:23 PM#31
Originally posted by Rattenmann
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by alkarionlog
if you missed the betas and all, I say wait, give then time for at least fix the bugs or the f2p will hit, if you are that bored and don't care to toss money, you can try, but serious have better games around

What MMO is out there, New, that is as good, or better than ESO?

 

Dont say Wildstar. I cant stand the graphic style. Gives me a headache just to look at.

 

Why does a game have to be new to be a consideration? About 50% of the "old" games are better then ESO.

Played a lot of the old games, they werent THAT good. 50%? lol!

  Octagon7711

Elite Member

Joined: 1/13/12
Posts: 584

Devs please nerf paper it's overpowered I'm rock which is fine scissors are fine.

4/30/14 3:56:12 PM#32
Just to many bugs for me.

  Nanfoodle

Elite Member

Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3575

4/30/14 4:24:34 PM#33
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Rattenmann
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by alkarionlog
if you missed the betas and all, I say wait, give then time for at least fix the bugs or the f2p will hit, if you are that bored and don't care to toss money, you can try, but serious have better games around

What MMO is out there, New, that is as good, or better than ESO?

 

Dont say Wildstar. I cant stand the graphic style. Gives me a headache just to look at.

 

Why does a game have to be new to be a consideration? About 50% of the "old" games are better then ESO.

Played a lot of the old games, they werent THAT good. 50%? lol!

EQ2 is still cutting edge, games are just now adding features its had for years, like player made dungeons and some features being talked about like player generated items are in EQ2 now. If I didnt like Wildstar so much I would be playing that till EQN came out =-) You dont even need to pay anything to get started, full game till you get to the last few expansions. 

  Rattenmann

Elite Member

Joined: 12/08/05
Posts: 352

4/30/14 4:56:48 PM#34
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by Rattenmann
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by alkarionlog
if you missed the betas and all, I say wait, give then time for at least fix the bugs or the f2p will hit, if you are that bored and don't care to toss money, you can try, but serious have better games around

What MMO is out there, New, that is as good, or better than ESO?

 

Dont say Wildstar. I cant stand the graphic style. Gives me a headache just to look at.

 

Why does a game have to be new to be a consideration? About 50% of the "old" games are better then ESO.

Played a lot of the old games, they werent THAT good. 50%? lol!

The issue you seem to be having is the past. Obviously not 50% of all games where better then ESO at launch. But they are NOW.

 

I could use an excuse and say "see, those games needed time as well!". But why would i play a game that is less fun NOW if i can just play another game that already fixed their mess from launch? And ESO really did A LOT of funky stuff that just screams "they never did their homework." all over the place.

Seriously, most of the issues ESO has could have been fixed in the design phase or very early alpha. They just ignored the past and it looks like you do as well. Games happened before ESO, no reason to ignore their faults, fixes or good things, just because you want your game to be 100% differend.

MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  Vapors

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/16/10
Posts: 408

4/30/14 4:59:24 PM#35
Originally posted by ChicagoCub
Wait for F2P in the advise I'm giving everyone.   There's no reason to be in the game now rather than later so save yourself some frustration and some money.

and when its f2p the next advise will be: "OMG its so p2w you can buy items in a shop imagine that, omg this thieves! dont play it at all".

  Kuinn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 2093

4/30/14 5:07:07 PM#36
Originally posted by Rattenmann
Originally posted by Daxamar
Originally posted by alkarionlog
if you missed the betas and all, I say wait, give then time for at least fix the bugs or the f2p will hit, if you are that bored and don't care to toss money, you can try, but serious have better games around

What MMO is out there, New, that is as good, or better than ESO?

 

Dont say Wildstar. I cant stand the graphic style. Gives me a headache just to look at.

 

Why does a game have to be new to be a consideration? About 50% of the "old" games are better then ESO.

It has to be new because I'm done with the old games. Why I'm done with the old games is because they are themeparks and once you're at level cap there's nothing else to do than grind gear in tiny end-game pocket.

 

Yes ESO will fall into the same category as soon as I've spent a while at max level, or more likely once I'm done with the story of DFC and EHP, but it's still new and I'm not there yet so at least it's an option unlike the old games.

  Sovrath

Elite Member

Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 17527

4/30/14 5:25:26 PM#37

I personally think it's worth playing. However, it's very "quest driven" and additionally, you need to go exploring to find your quests.

There are some main story lines that will lead you here and there but most of the content is found by exploring.

 

  Tyroz

Novice Member

Joined: 8/18/06
Posts: 20

 
OP  4/30/14 8:47:27 PM#38

Quite a lot of useful information has been posted. (Not the wait for F2P crap.) I love that those that seem to be having the most fun in the game are actually exploring and not rushing to the finish line.

I notice ESO is being called themepark a lot. My main gripe with this is I don't want to buy a game (again, £70 is quite a bit.) to be standing about town for the majority of the game while waiting for dungeons etc. Is this what I've to expect from this? I know quite a lot are talking about the crafting and personally, I love crafting, farming and all that time consuming stuff. I hate being fed like a child and rather have appreciation for my gear and character.

Most people seem to have forgotten that we play these games as MMORPGs and not MMOThemeparks. If they can't reach max level ASAP, be top tiered geared after a few weeks and always win at PvP with OP Classes and exploits then they aren't happy.

I want a leveling experience that actually takes a bit of effort, farming for stuff that actually matters (even if only to craft and or sell.), PvE dungeons/raids that can't be beaten in a day after initial release and PvP that requires some degree of skill. If ESO can't deliver in at least a few of these then in all honesty it's not for me, but reading a few of these posts I do have some hope for it. 

Also @72 votes 44.4% Yes, 55.6% No for those that don't want to or can't be bothered voting. 

  fivoroth

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Joined: 11/10/06
Posts: 2927

5/01/14 3:17:35 AM#39

If you want to get to endgame and soon as possible to do endgame content like dungeon farming and raiding, this game is not for you. 

If you don't enjoy slow levelling which is focused on quests which try hard to give you a compelling story, this game is not for you.

If you want to grind mobs ad nauseam, then this game is not for you.

If you want a sandbox game, this game is not for you. But then again this whole sandbox MMO thing seems hypothetical, as there are no sandbox MMOs except that thing called EVE but that's completely different to all RPGs.

If you want competitive, skill based PVP, this game is not for you.

IF you want a PvP experience on a massive scale which boils down to massive zergs, this game is for you.

If you enjoy exploring a huge game world, enjoy questing with some decent lore and you are interested in the lore of TES, then this game is for you.

Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.

  Bladestrom

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Joined: 4/04/11
Posts: 3718

5/01/14 3:37:13 AM#40
+1 ^^. I would only add:

If you are looking for an exotic and fresh locations and mobs this game is not for you.

If you enjoy the semi realistic approach to the virtual landscape and don't mind fighting mostly humanoids this game is for you.

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (1000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (480 Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(900 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO

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