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Elder Scrolls Online Forum » General Discussion » Load screens between zones?

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  Axxar

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OP  11/14/12 1:24:28 AM#1
So we know all zones will be instanced to Hell, with possibly hundres of copies of the same zone. But will moving from one zone to the next at least be seamless (like in WoW), so that there's at least the illusion of an open world? Or will there be fake barriers and load screens (like in GW2)?
  PaRoXiTiC

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11/14/12 1:33:51 AM#2

Does this really matter that much to people? I mean would you rather play a laggy shittastic game or have a 5 second barrior between zones?

Get real.

 

  PaRoXiTiC

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11/14/12 1:42:19 AM#3
Originally posted by Whitebeards
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Burnt out on that game about 2 weeks ago bud.

Its just truth. Go play an open world with no zones and let me know how that goes for you. Enjoy your lag.

  achesoma

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11/14/12 1:47:47 AM#4
Unfortunately, the latter.  Given that players can't wander into other faction zones, I'd think it's safe to assume it's all instanced.

  Sinaku

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11/14/12 1:50:53 AM#5

 


Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC
Does this really matter that much to people? I mean would you rather play a laggy shittastic game or have a 5 second barrior between zones?

 

Get real.

 



Yes, actually it does matter to me. Comments like this are whats wrong with the game industry today. Why is it OK for developers to half ass something that we easily (yes very easy) have the technology to accomplish.

 

I think you are the one who needs to "get real" because immersion is #1 to me in an MMO and to many other people. If you like insta que BGs then good for you but I sure as hell don't and I hate a fake "open world" [mod edit]

  PaRoXiTiC

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11/14/12 1:52:22 AM#6

I don't think there is a game out there that can get 1000 people into a zone without 50% of them DC'ing or lagging so hard they can't even move.

What makes all these "sandbox wannabee fans" think that a successful game can get 100,000 people on the same map at the same time?

It just can't be done yet. Probably never gonna happen in our lifetimes so might as well ticket up, buy your cotton candy and enjoy your themeparks.

  Sinaku

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11/14/12 1:54:26 AM#7


Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC
I don't think there is a game out there that can get 1000 people into a zone without 50% of them DC'ing or lagging so hard they can't even move.

What makes all these "sandbox wannabee fans" think that a successful game can get 100,000 people on the same map at the same time?

It just can't be done yet. Probably never gonna happen in our lifetimes so might as well ticket up, buy your cotton candy and enjoy your themeparks.


And mindsets like that are why nothing is ever going to change.

"Land on the moon? HAHA that's impossible you morons!" - Early 1960's

  Onomas

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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

11/14/12 1:56:25 AM#8
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC
Originally posted by Whitebeards

Well OP you just riled up a GW2 fan.

I am out of here.

*runs away screaming*

Burnt out on that game about 2 weeks ago bud.

Its just truth. Go play an open world with no zones and let me know how that goes for you. Enjoy your lag.

Never had lag in an open world mmo. Lagged like hell in swtor and other instanced mmo's though, Prefer the open world.

 

And yes it does matter if its instanced or has load screens. I wont play another instanced to hell mmo.

  Axxar

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OP  11/14/12 2:43:27 AM#9
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Does this really matter that much to people? I mean would you rather play a laggy shittastic game or have a 5 second barrior between zones?

Get real.

 

Between those two choices I'd rather have a 5 second barrier. However I prefer open worlds with no lag. World of WarCraft accomplishes this just fine, for example.

And yes, it matters a lot. Lots of MMO players don't just want any old game. They want a world to immerse themselves in. Load screens and artificial barriers break that immersion.

  Qallidexz

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11/14/12 3:21:02 AM#10
Originally posted by Axxar
So we know all zones will be instanced to Hell, with possibly hundres of copies of the same zone. But will moving from one zone to the next at least be seamless (like in WoW), so that there's at least the illusion of an open world? Or will there be fake barriers and load screens (like in GW2)?

The "instance" you're in, will probably be for the entire 3 zones, (or 2 for DC), so for example, you'll be in one instance for Summerset Isles, Valenwood, and Elsweyr, which means no zoning until you go into Cyrodiil (which wouldn't even be a big deal, really).  But even if there is load time between zones, so what? Each zone is HUGE, so, how often will  you really be zoning?

  azzamasin

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We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

11/14/12 3:34:59 AM#11
No one knows but its safe to assume that each area is zoned.  Now I am sure there will be countless areas within each zone, so in essence Skyrim will be open and Morrowind will be open but going between the 2 will most likely be zoned.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  thexrated

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11/14/12 4:22:42 AM#12
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Does this really matter that much to people? I mean would you rather play a laggy shittastic game or have a 5 second barrior between zones?

Get real.

 

It does actually matter to me. It takes away from the immersion. Just like the instancing does.

"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."

  Pocahinha

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11/14/12 4:28:03 AM#13
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Does this really matter that much to people? I mean would you rather play a laggy shittastic game or have a 5 second barrior between zones?

Get real.

 

wow has no loading screens from zone to zone and there is no lag, darkfall has no loading screens in a gigantic world and there is no lag...

 

Games nowadays have crappy loadingscreens from zone to zone or every 100 meters because they prefer poligon count with pretty graphics.

  Axxar

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OP  11/14/12 12:01:06 PM#14
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by Axxar
So we know all zones will be instanced to Hell, with possibly hundres of copies of the same zone. But will moving from one zone to the next at least be seamless (like in WoW), so that there's at least the illusion of an open world? Or will there be fake barriers and load screens (like in GW2)?

The "instance" you're in, will probably be for the entire 3 zones, (or 2 for DC), so for example, you'll be in one instance for Summerset Isles, Valenwood, and Elsweyr, which means no zoning until you go into Cyrodiil (which wouldn't even be a big deal, really).  But even if there is load time between zones, so what? Each zone is HUGE, so, how often will  you really be zoning?

If the faction areas and Cyrodil are staggeringly huge, it may be acceptable if it actually works as you're hoping.

  Qallidexz

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11/14/12 1:11:45 PM#15
Originally posted by Axxar
Originally posted by Qallidexz
Originally posted by Axxar
So we know all zones will be instanced to Hell, with possibly hundres of copies of the same zone. But will moving from one zone to the next at least be seamless (like in WoW), so that there's at least the illusion of an open world? Or will there be fake barriers and load screens (like in GW2)?

The "instance" you're in, will probably be for the entire 3 zones, (or 2 for DC), so for example, you'll be in one instance for Summerset Isles, Valenwood, and Elsweyr, which means no zoning until you go into Cyrodiil (which wouldn't even be a big deal, really).  But even if there is load time between zones, so what? Each zone is HUGE, so, how often will  you really be zoning?

If the faction areas and Cyrodil are staggeringly huge, it may be acceptable if it actually works as you're hoping.

Well if you've played previous ES games, you know roughly how big they are, they said that the Cyrodiil in ESO will actually be slightly larger than the one in Oblivion.

  amadeuz

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11/14/12 10:59:38 PM#16

- Outdated graphic with immersive and 1000 people in one vast zone but highly possibly facing with DCs, lag, and bunch of server issues

- Modern gorgeous graphic, really few connection issue, but have to load screen between zones, break immersion.

Your choice pick!!..

I have read in Tamriel Foundry they said that ESO is probably going to this (sorry I forgot the link)

Originally posted by Qallidexz

The "instance" you're in, will probably be for the entire 3 zones, (or 2 for DC), so for example, you'll be in one instance for Summerset Isles, Valenwood, and Elsweyr, which means no zoning until you go into Cyrodiil (which wouldn't even be a big deal, really).  But even if there is load time between zones, so what? Each zone is HUGE, so, how often will  you really be zoning?

  MMOExposed

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11/14/12 11:18:53 PM#17
Originally posted by Whitebeards
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This what got me worried. 

 

But I be back for answers. I would also like to know.

  Axxar

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OP  11/15/12 1:14:33 AM#18
Originally posted by amadeuz

- Outdated graphic with immersive and 1000 people in one vast zone but highly possibly facing with DCs, lag, and bunch of server issues

- Modern gorgeous graphic, really few connection issue, but have to load screen between zones, break immersion.

Your choice pick!!..

I have read in Tamriel Foundry they said that ESO is probably going to this (sorry I forgot the link)

Originally posted by Qallidexz

The "instance" you're in, will probably be for the entire 3 zones, (or 2 for DC), so for example, you'll be in one instance for Summerset Isles, Valenwood, and Elsweyr, which means no zoning until you go into Cyrodiil (which wouldn't even be a big deal, really).  But even if there is load time between zones, so what? Each zone is HUGE, so, how often will  you really be zoning?

Lousy excuse. Why would the first one lag but the second not? Games have open worlds without these issues, so clearly it's possible if you're using a decent engine. In fact WoW did it 8 years ago - each continent is seamless, no BS loading if you enter a town or pass into a different zone.

Server clogging or framerate issues occur if everyone is in the exact same area of the world, which can happen whether or not load screens exist.

  Xasapis

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11/15/12 1:28:26 AM#19
Forget about WoW, people will raise the invalid argument about seamless world needing bad graphcis. Tera, with all its faults, has one of the most visually powerful engines on the market, the world is completely seamless and there is collision detection with everything.
  Qallidexz

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11/15/12 7:57:10 AM#20
Originally posted by Axxar
Originally posted by amadeuz

- Outdated graphic with immersive and 1000 people in one vast zone but highly possibly facing with DCs, lag, and bunch of server issues

- Modern gorgeous graphic, really few connection issue, but have to load screen between zones, break immersion.

Your choice pick!!..

I have read in Tamriel Foundry they said that ESO is probably going to this (sorry I forgot the link)

Originally posted by Qallidexz

The "instance" you're in, will probably be for the entire 3 zones, (or 2 for DC), so for example, you'll be in one instance for Summerset Isles, Valenwood, and Elsweyr, which means no zoning until you go into Cyrodiil (which wouldn't even be a big deal, really).  But even if there is load time between zones, so what? Each zone is HUGE, so, how often will  you really be zoning?

Lousy excuse. Why would the first one lag but the second not? Games have open worlds without these issues, so clearly it's possible if you're using a decent engine. In fact WoW did it 8 years ago - each continent is seamless, no BS loading if you enter a town or pass into a different zone.

Server clogging or framerate issues occur if everyone is in the exact same area of the world, which can happen whether or not load screens exist.

Yea, I have to agree wth Axxar, DAoC pulled it off in 2001... this game will come out 12 years later, so I don't see the issue.

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