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Guild Wars Forum » Lion's Arch (General) raquo; Some info on GW please

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  DonY81

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11/09/09 2:47:12 PM#1

I have never played this game but i have spent an hour or so on the guildwars site having a look and a bit of a read up. I have a few questions that i need answers to and here they are.

1, does this game have any crafting?

2, does gear / what u are wearing have an impact on your skills? Also if it does how do you get good gear?

3,Part of a pvp game for me is actually getting a rating / working towards something. If not it can get boring just going  into arena doing battle and then getting nothing from it.

4, Questing i understand there is some and campaigns? Do you also level up in pvp ?

5, The guildwars world...can someone elaborate a bit more on what it is like, sandbox etc etc.

6, F2P <-------is this true?

I do apoligise if these questions are on the guildwars site and i havent noticed, and thank you to the kind ppl in advance for your time to answer

 

p.s whens GW2 release btw?

 

many thanks in advance

  User Deleted
11/09/09 2:51:44 PM#2

Best place i can refer you to is the wiki site. It will answer all of your questions and more.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page

I will quickly answer one of your questions though. You don't level in pvp and you don't have to. You can create a pvp only character that is max level and max equipment to choose from. You can jump into pvping as soon as you install the game if you wish. I would suggest to make a pve character and learn the basics of the game before jumping into pvp however.

  tro44_1

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11/09/09 4:51:30 PM#3
Originally posted by Chiller1

I have never played this game but i have spent an hour or so on the guildwars site having a look and a bit of a read up. I have a few questions that i need answers to and here they are.

1, does this game have any crafting?

Yes, but it is a lame system. Have you ever play World of Warcraft? Well the crafting system in GW, is like WoW's dis enchant profession. Break apart items, to build the predefined gear sets. Dont expect a Runescape style of crafting.

2, does gear / what u are wearing have an impact on your skills? Also if it does how do you get good gear?

Yes it does. But very little. Gear can effect your Stats (attributes), which will allow you to perform better. Also PvE aggro/Tanking system, is nothing but a Armor game. Whoever has the lowest/worst armor, is the primary target. But dont worry. You can grind all the mats needed to craft your gear, easily. Also dont even think about wearing gear from other classes, or better yet, combos of them. All Gear (including Weapons) are class oriented. By this I mean, most of the gear you wear, can only be worn by that class. But weapons and shield (off Hand items), can be used by anybody, but most of them have stat requirement, in order to get the benifit of using them. And those stats come from the class that the item is associated with. Which makes many of them pointless when used in such a way, other then role playing value.

3,Part of a pvp game for me is actually getting a rating / working towards something. If not it can get boring just going  into arena doing battle and then getting nothing from it.

Well sorry to pop your bubble, but this aint WoW (hehe I can see the fanboyz raging now). This game's PvP has horried rewards. If you like Grinding for pointless titles, then go for it. If not, and you like getting the show-off--iy rewards, then play something else. I will admit, that the PvP in GW can be fun at times, but usually that fun dies down fast. Even many of the rabit fanboys of this game, that I know, often take loong monthly breaks from the game, cause they get bored of the game. Doesnt sound like an addictive RPG game to me.

4, Questing i understand there is some and campaigns? Do you also level up in pvp ?

No you dont Lvl in PvP. (You can get Skill points from PvP) [Sort of like the same thing, but problem is, that you will already be a max lvl on your toon, by time you PvP, since the PvP gameplay and PvE gameplay are seperated.] You start at max lvl if you make a PvP toon. Questing is the same like in other rpgs. Go kill "X" and bring back "Y". But everything in the game world, outside of cities and towns, are INSTANCED. So expect to be bored and get a feeling of emptiness when you start playing.

5, The guildwars world...can someone elaborate a bit more on what it is like, sandbox etc etc.

No not Sandbox! FAR FROM IT. GW world and PvE gameplay, is just about as Linear as a Theme Park style RPG can get. I mean,,,,, Guild Wars’ PvE is even more linear then Resistance and Resistance 2’s PvE game play (DAMN!!!)

6, F2P <-------is this true?

Yes it is F2P.

I do apoligise if these questions are on the guildwars site and i havent noticed, and thank you to the kind ppl in advance for your time to answer

 No Problem. Iam bored of GW anyway, which is why Iam here surfing MMORPG.com (Which Guild Wars isn't) HeHe @ Fanboys

p.s whens GW2 release btw?

 When it's ready. (I know many Developers say this, and never pull through, but hey, what we have to lose. It will be F2P also, and this time around, it will be a true MMORPG.

many thanks in advance

No Problem. Enjoy


 

Just something to note: If you are looking for a replacement MMORPG, for your current Main MMORPG, then I highly wouldn’t suggest looking at Guild Wars.


Guild Wars is more of a Alt MMORPG, if I may put it that way. The reason for this is the fact that this game isn’t a MMORPG at all. It is a CORPG(Co-op, Online, Role Playing, Game). The game lacks in Character development. Which is a standard in what makes the RPG(video game genre) what it is.


The PvE in the game is horrid. It can be 100% soloed (WTF you may be saying. I know). And by Solo, I don’t mean just lvling, and gathering like in WoW. But I mean the whole game is 100% soloable. This game has no End Game. This game is basically (the PS2’s Dot Hack game, but with a online requirement for some strange reason) {REALLY}!!! Most players in GW prefer to play using NPC as party members over real players. So the “Looking For Group” becomes a “No No”.


The PvP also gets repetitive. All you do, is grind for Faction, to buy Spells and Titles. That’s it.
Like I said,,, If you looking for a new Main MMORPG, look elsewhere. But if you just want something to spend time on, when you get tired of your main MMORPG,then go for it. The fact that you can just to max lvl in this game’s PvP, makes it even better as a Alt game to play.
 

  DonY81

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11/10/09 2:16:54 PM#4

guys thanks for the feedback, ive downloaded the trial and i will say although it does not have pvp i feel this may not keep my attention for long enough, I will be looking at Darkfall, FE and MO wjhen it is released.

 

Once again thanks.

  tro44_1

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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

11/10/09 7:42:02 PM#5
Originally posted by Chiller1

guys thanks for the feedback, ive downloaded the trial and i will say although it does not have pvp i feel this may not keep my attention for long enough, I will be looking at Darkfall, FE and MO wjhen it is released.

 

Once again thanks.


 

No Problem

Told-ya-So

  GODGANONDORF

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Joined: 11/11/09
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Leave others try you dont have the right to stop'em

11/11/09 10:52:15 AM#6

 MM How sad is to see a troll have get you out of maybe one of the best online games ever pvp is porbably one of th emost awarded of all and for god crhist wow pvp?? no kidding the pvp there has no challenge no talent no nothing is just my armor is better youres not you lose in GW you use youre brain and yes you get rewars apart from  titles you get armor items money etc etc etc... Pve i a nice story and at least is not cpoy from Lord of the rings like Wow is GW  is free and if you chek list of this site best MMO  you will find it there believe me dont lose the chance

DARK AND LIGHT I GOVERN BOTH

  GODGANONDORF

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Joined: 11/11/09
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Leave others try you dont have the right to stop'em

11/11/09 10:53:04 AM#7

 MM How sad is to see a troll have get you out of maybe one of the best online games ever pvp is porbably one of th emost awarded of all and for god crhist wow pvp?? no kidding the pvp there has no challenge no talent no nothing is just my armor is better youres not you lose in GW you use youre brain and yes you get rewars apart from  titles you get armor items money etc etc etc... Pve i a nice story and at least is not cpoy from Lord of the rings like Wow is GW  is free and if you chek list of this site best MMO  you will find it there believe me dont lose the chance

DARK AND LIGHT I GOVERN BOTH

  tro44_1

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Joined: 6/20/06
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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

11/11/09 4:24:17 PM#8
Originally posted by GODGANONDORF

 MM How sad is to see a troll have get you out of maybe one of the best online games ever pvp is porbably one of th emost awarded of all and for god crhist wow pvp?? no kidding the pvp there has no challenge no talent no nothing is just my armor is better youres not you lose in GW you use youre brain and yes you get rewars apart from  titles you get armor items money etc etc etc... Pve i a nice story and at least is not cpoy from Lord of the rings like Wow is GW  is free and if you chek list of this site best MMO  you will find it there believe me dont lose the chance


 

Nice double post there Fanyboy!!

But if you go back and read the OP. They tested the game themself, and reaslized it sucked. I had nothing to do with that. and nobody else on this site had anything to do with that. The OP tried the game, and it sucked, as I pointed out.

Funny how you keep pointing out the gear advantages in WOW, yet seem fail at realizing that Guild Wars also gives advantages,

But in a WORST way.  Their Card Deck system, gives player with better deck, the advantage over others. No matter how skilled you maybe, you cant fight with a bad deck. So I dont see how Guild Wars takes tons of skill to play.

 

And btw, GW is not a MMO, as pointed out by ANET themself, and in the Mod's post.

Also you rant on about copying LoTR,,,, Hey ever Warhammer lately? So you saying Warhammer has a poor IP? Huw?

  User Deleted
11/11/09 5:00:32 PM#9

the OP never said the game sucked, just said it wasn't for him, fair enough (although the trial doesn't allow you to pvp so I'm not sure how you can make a judgement on a part of the game you've never played)

you say the game sucks, why are you here then? I've noticed you have moved on to the warhammer forum, you going there for good? Perhaps you can bother them with your ramblings of nonsense.

  tro44_1

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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

11/12/09 1:11:39 AM#10
Originally posted by arenasb

the OP never said the game sucked, just said it wasn't for him, fair enough (although the trial doesn't allow you to pvp so I'm not sure how you can make a judgement on a part of the game you've never played)

you say the game sucks, why are you here then? I've noticed you have moved on to the warhammer forum, you going there for good? Perhaps you can bother them with your ramblings of nonsense.


 

You dont need to test the PvP out to realize the PvE in this game Sucks!!

This game does suck for a RPG IMO.  Why I come here? Because like I said, this game makes a good alt to MMORPG, because of the F2P formating, and the Instant Lvl PvP system, which is why I play it. Currently GW has been the only game I have been playing on my new computer before downloading Warhammer's free trial.

My Ranting may seem like nonsense to you, thats because you are a Fanboy. Fanboys like yourself, are always blinded from the Issues with games. This applies to any MM/CORPG.

Warhammer had this same blinded Fanboyism, when it was in beta. I remember even reading post from fanboys that stated the game had no problems (this was during open beta) .LOL.

Fanboys are always blinded by fanboyism. And when a Developer rely on Fans, and fans alone, to dictate the problems, then they will have a even bigger problem on their hands, as major issues get ignored.

ANET has a new MMORPG on the way. And I truely dont want to see it follow the same bad path GW did, and rely fully on the F2P aspect of it to get anywhere, like the First game did.

I want to see Guild Wars 2, become a truely epic game.  But relying on fanboys like yourself, to determin what was good and what was bad about the first game, will once again lead the developers down the same path as before, and as Warhammer has done. I want GW2 to become more then just a Alt MM/CORPG game like before, and become a truely elite Main MMORPG.

Things ANET did right, like Fast lvling, was a good idea, but In GW1 were you dont have any form of End Game other then fighting higher lvl mobs, just kills the system right there. Whats the point of Lvling in the first game, if it doesnt have End Game? Think about that. Also many people agree that GW had a Bad Economy. I would like that also Fixed, by adding Crafting and Gathering Proffesions to work with, when we not dong PvE and PvP.

(The list gos on)

  User Deleted
11/12/09 9:28:27 AM#11

What's a "fanboy"? And how does it pertain to this discussion. The OP never mentioned anything about pve. After all of this supposed time you have played the game, you still don't get it. You are looking for WoW or similar style game, this isn't WoW so don't toture yourself and play it expecting it to be something it's not.

  tro44_1

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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

11/12/09 1:18:47 PM#12
Originally posted by arenasb

What's a "fanboy"? And how does it pertain to this discussion. The OP never mentioned anything about pve. After all of this supposed time you have played the game, you still don't get it. You are looking for WoW or similar style game, this isn't WoW so don't toture yourself and play it expecting it to be something it's not.


 

WoW is a MMO.

So lets reprase this a bit.

 

The OP never mentioned anything about pve. After all of this supposed time you have played the game, you still don't get it. You are looking for a MMORPG or similar style game, this isn't a MMORPG so don't toture yourself and play it expecting it to be something it's not.

 

I agree, which is why iam waiting for Guild Wars 2

  Quirhid

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11/14/09 3:51:26 PM#13
Originally posted by tro44_1
Originally posted by arenasb

What's a "fanboy"? And how does it pertain to this discussion. The OP never mentioned anything about pve. After all of this supposed time you have played the game, you still don't get it. You are looking for WoW or similar style game, this isn't WoW so don't toture yourself and play it expecting it to be something it's not.


 

WoW is a MMO.

So lets reprase this a bit.

 

The OP never mentioned anything about pve. After all of this supposed time you have played the game, you still don't get it. You are looking for a MMORPG or similar style game, this isn't a MMORPG so don't toture yourself and play it expecting it to be something it's not.

 

I agree, which is why iam waiting for Guild Wars 2

 

Dude, the way you've been making these, lets face it, ridiculous suggestions and speculations about GW2, it will not be a game for you. You obviously don't undestand why GW is loved as it is. Taking steps to your suggestions and to your preferences GW would not be GW.

You have made yourself my favorite troll #2. Zorn is way ahead of you but if you keep it up, you might make it #1. You might even be the same guy, I don't know.

Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. -Author unknown, attributed to Mark Twain

  tro44_1

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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

11/15/09 12:09:20 AM#14
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by tro44_1
Originally posted by arenasb

What's a "fanboy"? And how does it pertain to this discussion. The OP never mentioned anything about pve. After all of this supposed time you have played the game, you still don't get it. You are looking for WoW or similar style game, this isn't WoW so don't toture yourself and play it expecting it to be something it's not.


 

WoW is a MMO.

So lets reprase this a bit.

 

The OP never mentioned anything about pve. After all of this supposed time you have played the game, you still don't get it. You are looking for a MMORPG or similar style game, this isn't a MMORPG so don't toture yourself and play it expecting it to be something it's not.

 

I agree, which is why iam waiting for Guild Wars 2

 

Dude, the way you've been making these, lets face it, ridiculous suggestions and speculations about GW2, it will not be a game for you. You obviously don't undestand why GW is loved as it is. Taking steps to your suggestions and to your preferences GW would not be GW.

You have made yourself my favorite troll #2. Zorn is way ahead of you but if you keep it up, you might make it #1. You might even be the same guy, I don't know.

LOL is that the best you can do Fanboy?
 

Because from the facts along, GW2 will be a MMORPG, and a different game from GW1(CoRPG) .

All you have is name calling, yet nothing to back it up. in each of my post, I have back up my claims. Guild Wars 2 will be very different, which is why the Developers are holding back on the Game Mechanics, because they will be Different. They Didnt want rabit fanboys like yourself jumping to the gun, before trying it out.

  User Deleted
11/15/09 1:40:56 AM#15
Originally posted by tro44_1
Originally posted by Quirhid

 

Dude, the way you've been making these, lets face it, ridiculous suggestions and speculations about GW2, it will not be a game for you. You obviously don't undestand why GW is loved as it is. Taking steps to your suggestions and to your preferences GW would not be GW.

You have made yourself my favorite troll #2. Zorn is way ahead of you but if you keep it up, you might make it #1. You might even be the same guy, I don't know.

LOL is that the best you can do Fanboy?
 

Because from the facts along, GW2 will be a MMORPG, and a different game from GW1(CoRPG) .

All you have is name calling, yet nothing to back it up. in each of my post, I have back up my claims. Guild Wars 2 will be very different, which is why the Developers are holding back on the Game Mechanics, because they will be Different. They Didnt want rabit fanboys like yourself jumping to the gun, before trying it out.


 

You haven't backed up anything. All you have are opinions, not facts.

...by the way, what is a rabit fanboy?

  slaZours

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11/15/09 1:55:35 AM#16

Please do not listen to tro44_1, he is obviously someone who has a very biased view. I don't play the game anymore, but if you are interested in very competitve team pvp then this takes the cake. The pve is fun and the general focus is not on leveling/gaining gear.

  tro44_1

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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

11/15/09 2:50:47 AM#17
Originally posted by slaZours

Please do not listen to tro44_1, he is obviously someone who has a very biased view. I don't play the game anymore, but if you are interested in very competitve team pvp then this takes the cake. The pve is fun and the general focus is not on leveling/gaining gear.


 

OK fanboy,, You tell me the Pros and Cons of Guild Wars then. I want to see this.

  slaZours

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11/15/09 3:54:40 AM#18
Originally posted by tro44_1
Originally posted by slaZours

Please do not listen to tro44_1, he is obviously someone who has a very biased view. I don't play the game anymore, but if you are interested in very competitve team pvp then this takes the cake. The pve is fun and the general focus is not on leveling/gaining gear.


 

OK fanboy,, You tell me the Pros and Cons of Guild Wars then. I want to see this.

 

You can't call everyone a fanboy just because they have different opinions than you. I would also love to post a large detailed review on this, but unfortunatly I don't have the time for such activities anymore.

  Quirhid

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11/15/09 8:12:31 AM#19

I think this is quite a good  "review".

I would consider a fanboi someone who only states his/her own opinions as "facts" without any basis and then bashes the opinions of others. Furthermore he/she refuses to listen to reason and turns his/her verbal attacks on the person/people opposing him/her rather than arguing the issue. This manifests itself in namecalling and focusing on things that are beside the point like spelling and grammar as well as picking out words and sentences out of context in the case of forum posts. This kind of tactic in a "debate" is childish and proves nothing. It only shows that the person resorting to this kind of behavior is currently losing the argument at hand. Alas, this is very common.

I value people who admit that their view is not necessarily the truth. Mine is not. I welcome you to change my opinion about the subject - but do so rationally. Those of us who see things differently are not by any means inferior and not necessarily wrong.

I hope my ramblings haven't gone to deaf ears so to speak. And please be gentle for english is not my native language. Actually I'd like some feedback on any mistakes I made.

Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. -Author unknown, attributed to Mark Twain

  User Deleted
11/15/09 11:39:40 AM#20

That's a fairly balanced review. Obviously any review, even professional ones, will have personal tastes and bias taken into account.

Your english is just fine, better than tro44_1 from what I've seen. A lot of non native english speakers tend to have better english than native speakers.

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