I dont understand how you get any better in PvP in this game. And what i really dont understand is how you get all the skillz w/o having to PvP grind it

By learning the skills, their casting times when they will be used and so on you'll become a much better interrupter, for example. As a monk you'll need to watch the whole battlefield and see where enemies are heading, prevent spikes, save energy and keep your team alive and so on; all of this requires vast amounts of skills. You can't as a beginner charge into HA or GvG and expect to be on equal level as the veterans, and that is because they've played the game, learned and become skilled at it. Every role in the group requires it's own way of playing and reacting; and to do so correctly requires skill.

And regarding skills you can unlock them in PvE through various quests; they can also be gained by buying the skill packs from the Guild Wars shop; additionally you can also gain them by "farming" the Zaishen Elite mission to gain 6000 faction per day.

Players have various approaches to improving their skills, some learn fast, some are more tuned and so on. Some important things for my play style:

1) Maintaining situational awareness by not staring at one thing for too long, looking at your radar map and outside for the position of allies, foes, terrain, obstructions, choke points,etc, your stats,time and score in some synchronized fashion. And if you can note mentally (other than your current position) on your previous position or even your expected position, then you have a little more edge.

2) Study my opponents, so you have better anticipation and you can react properly.

3) I test my opponents for reaction time and so on.

4) When exchanging information to groupies, be short and concise, don't clog the channel.

5) Be as efficient as the situation allows, with mana and long skilllrecharge.

6)  Be decisive. When making decisions, I stick to it because I looked at different factors that influenced the decision. If the situation changes, you have to make another decision, I ask myself some questions with yes, no or just ignore completely and choose whatever will give me the result that I want. But this should not override or interfere with the overall group decision because the point is to be predictable to your allies.

7) You also want to be some steps ahead of yourself and obviously your foes because you don't want to be surprised and be driven by your character and/or your foe. This usually comes with lack of preparation.

The thought process in this is usually quick.

Those are just some general but important things for me. You may also find your own method if you have the will to do so.  Observe alot of recorded games, spend time reading some of the strategy forums, ask your guildies and friends for advice, tips or if you have questions and of course you got to keep playing with what you learn and/or with what you come up with and set a higher standard for yourself, don't be lazy about it.

Also, I've seen that Pvxwiki.com is a good site to learn PvP builds along with PvE builds as well. It has most of the information there that you'd need to make the most use of that build, and their tested and given ratings based on their effectiveness. It really helps you pick out the skills for do PvP at your best possible skill. The only think I don't like about it though is that a lot of the builds rely on you having all of the stand-alones and expansions.

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Originally posted by Andorhal
Also, I've seen that Pvxwiki.com is a good site to learn PvP builds along with PvE builds as well. It has most of the information there that you'd need to make the most use of that build, and their tested and given ratings based on their effectiveness. It really helps you pick out the skills for do PvP at your best possible skill. The only think I don't like about it though is that a lot of the builds rely on you having all of the stand-alones and expansions.

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PvX is basically an attempt to store the current meta builds, which however only is relevant if you're going to play HA or TA; since you there will be asked to play builds for "Sway" or Rspike and thus you can check before on PvX how the setup is.

However relying entirely on PvX for all your builds may be a bad idea; creating your own ones and seeing how well they work and so on is a good way to learn what works and what doesn't. In the beginning it's best to start off with playing already tested builds to get the basics; and then proceed to making your own ones.

Originally posted by Godliest

 

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Originally posted by Andorhal
Also, I've seen that Pvxwiki.com is a good site to learn PvP builds along with PvE builds as well. It has most of the information there that you'd need to make the most use of that build, and their tested and given ratings based on their effectiveness. It really helps you pick out the skills for do PvP at your best possible skill. The only think I don't like about it though is that a lot of the builds rely on you having all of the stand-alones and expansions.

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PvX is basically an attempt to store the current meta builds, which however only is relevant if you're going to play HA or TA; since you there will be asked to play builds for "Sway" or Rspike and thus you can check before on PvX how the setup is.

However relying entirely on PvX for all your builds may be a bad idea; creating your own ones and seeing how well they work and so on is a good way to learn what works and what doesn't. In the beginning it's best to start off with playing already tested builds to get the basics; and then proceed to making your own ones.

To be honest, I'd recommend you continue playing through the PvE campaign before venturing into PvP further. By doing this you'll gain further insight into how to play the game as you will learn about various skills, how they are used etc.

Once you feel you've got a better knowledge, then try Random Arenas or even better, Alliance Battles. The latter is 12 vs. 12 (talk to the Alliance Battles NPC in your Guild Hall). Here you have 11 other people to "pick up the slack" for you and you'll learn much about the basics of PvP. Through doing this you'll also acquite a load of Balthazar Faction which you can use to unlock your PvP skills, as well as Kurzick/Luxon faction which you can exchange for rewards.

Good luck ;)

You may want to try making a pvp charecter preferably a warrior since I think warrior is the most beginner friendly proffession. It's a good a way to get a feel for some pvp without having to make it to through a good poriton of pve. However once you have the ropes on pvp I'd suggest to go back to your pve charecter and move you way through to the end game where you can test your skills without having to worry about some pvp idiot shouting "Learn2play noob"

That's just my 2 cents so do what works for you.

Actually, the best way to learn how to PvP is to just do it.  You will figure out what works and what doesn't.  Those of us that have played GvG for a while have learned most of what we know just by playing.  And as some people have said, what works for some people doesn't work for others.   Personally, I started out in RA's and TA's with the worst builds that you could possibly imagine because I knew almost nothing about the PvP game.  After a few years, I've gotten the hang of it.  And if you are serious about PvP expect to spend hours and hours doing it.  That's just what it takes.

Also, I do not recommend starting out in zaishen simply for the fact that the builds that you will face will not prepare you for real PvP.  It is an okay source of farming faction, but that's about it.