To the posters that are hell bent on looking down on others for their opinions, or getting offensive and insulting about another person's interest in a game, you just need to be aware there are people on this Earth that do think differently than you do and it does not mean they are lesser beings because of it. You don't need to say that all people who think [insert anybody's opinion here] must be [your condescending, insulting opinion of them]. It'll make these forums a much better place without those comments.

i've played a lot if this game so far, but lets be honest here this game is nothing more than casting your AOE spell over and over again and then walking a few feet then doing it again, im lv 30 and ive only used one spell since lv 2, I only use that spell, I dont attack with my weapon, buff my self, nothing. I walk into mobs and spam my spell, this isnt a deep game it may in fact be even more mindless than d3, that said, as a mindless mob grind its good.

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by Aori

This game will fade into nothingness within months of its official release. The small minority of people this game reallly caters too won't keep it running for to long. 

Though this game is nothing compared to D3 anyone who says otherwise usually hasn't play D3 or even looked it up at all. However if you truely prefer PoE to D3, hope the game works out for ya and they can siphon enough cash shop money from you guys to keep it afloat.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel validated in your crusade for Diablo 3 I guess. It must kill your ego to see other people enjoying something that you seem to despise. I've played both, and it's no contest for me - PoE is the superior product in my eyes. 

The sooner you come to the realization that your opinion isn't the gospel, the better.

 I was being realistic actually. However like I said, if you like the game thats awesome and I do hope it works out.

That said however I personally don't see the game running all that long with dedicated servers, it does get expensive and they are an indie company with little to no backing that i'm aware of. Running a F2P game on dedicated servers usually requires a rewarding cash shop which is one of the reasons people use against D3 when talking about PoE.

Indie companies trying to host a game online constantly is going to be difficult financially. Thus the reason they did the whole buy into the beta thing, its to test the waters of who will pay for their product since they already said it would be F2P.

So again, goodluck to you and your game, I honestly wish it well.

P.S. stay out of my forum if you can't stand me in yours ;)

Your opinion of a gaming companies situation isn't being "realistic". What exactly do you know about them and their plans, or even their overall financial situation, apart from what they've made known? I'm sure you're not anymore enlightened than the rest of us.

Fallen Earth was also an indie developed game, and aside from going through some rocky transitions, is still running strong (better than ever even) with their new F2P hybrid system. The population seems very constant from what I've observed and it's considered a niche game, so there's a bigger market for gamers like us than you might care to believe. That's only one example.

If you really wished it well, you wouldn't make condescending, troll bait posts like that in the first place. Yeah, I've made several comments in the Diablo 3 forums, but it's normally only to rebuke mis-information or biased attacks on a game I happen to think doesn't get the credit it deserves - I even give D3 credit for what I feel it does right. I don't, however, make posts that do nothing but attack the quality and well-being of a game simply out of spite or because I think my opinion somehow out-weighs other's that don't share my own. That's more than I can say about several of the posts I've seen made by you in recent days. 

 

 Um fallen earth is one of the worst examples you could have used. First off the game started P2P with box sales, something PoE isn't starting with. It struggled along for 2 years before it was finally picked up. Now its F2P by another company with some 'P2W' elements. The game is part of Steams F2P mmo category, of course its going to be better free than when it was P2P when it has steam advertising. Without steam that game would have fallen well past earth.

Either way, PoE caters to a smaller group of people. If they don't sell content, they'll have to make the cash shop P2W.. so really I don't know how this can end well for the game.

I gave the game an honest run and i've already said what I think is bad about it in posts before. If the game keeps going then awesome if not i'm sorry people wasted money on a beta.

Originally posted by IrishChai
To the posters that are hell bent on looking down on others for their opinions, or getting offensive and insulting about another person's interest in a game, you just need to be aware there are people on this Earth that do think differently than you do and it does not mean they are lesser beings because of it. You don't need to say that all people who think [insert anybody's opinion here] must be [your condescending, insulting opinion of them]. It'll make these forums a much better place without those comments.

Agreed. I'll admit that I get a bit too personal at times but in the end, I acknowledge the fact that people have different tastes and that's just how it is. That said, I've stated my mind about my feelings on D3, so I don't plan on posting over on that board much anymore. 

In a situation like this, where two games are competing in a similar market, conversation of the two typically tend to degrade down to a "I'm right and you're an idiot" slugfest on both sides. I'm done with taking part in that atmosphere.

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by IrishChai
To the posters that are hell bent on looking down on others for their opinions, or getting offensive and insulting about another person's interest in a game, you just need to be aware there are people on this Earth that do think differently than you do and it does not mean they are lesser beings because of it. You don't need to say that all people who think [insert anybody's opinion here] must be [your condescending, insulting opinion of them]. It'll make these forums a much better place without those comments.

Agreed. I'll admit that I get a bit too personal at times but in the end, I acknowledge the fact that people have different tastes and that's just how it is. That said, I've stated my mind about my feelings on D3, so I don't plan on posting over on that board much anymore. 

In a situation like this, where two games are competing in a similar market, conversation of the two typically tend to degrade down to a "I'm right and you're an idiot" slugfest on both sides. I'm done with taking part in that atmosphere.

 My reason for even posting in this thread was for the whole fact that the op recommends the game and the only reason he can give is because it more or less is that PoE is what D3 should have been.

Just so you understand, the PoE community has been rather hateful, ignorant and just rude to the D3 one. So yes I may have came off a bit rude and that I apologize if you were offended. That said, my comment about it staying alive was honest but I didn't mean any ill will with that part :p

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by Aori

This game will fade into nothingness within months of its official release. The small minority of people this game reallly caters too won't keep it running for to long. 

Though this game is nothing compared to D3 anyone who says otherwise usually hasn't play D3 or even looked it up at all. However if you truely prefer PoE to D3, hope the game works out for ya and they can siphon enough cash shop money from you guys to keep it afloat.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel validated in your crusade for Diablo 3 I guess. It must kill your ego to see other people enjoying something that you seem to despise. I've played both, and it's no contest for me - PoE is the superior product in my eyes. 

The sooner you come to the realization that your opinion isn't the gospel, the better.

 I was being realistic actually. However like I said, if you like the game thats awesome and I do hope it works out.

That said however I personally don't see the game running all that long with dedicated servers, it does get expensive and they are an indie company with little to no backing that i'm aware of. Running a F2P game on dedicated servers usually requires a rewarding cash shop which is one of the reasons people use against D3 when talking about PoE.

Indie companies trying to host a game online constantly is going to be difficult financially. Thus the reason they did the whole buy into the beta thing, its to test the waters of who will pay for their product since they already said it would be F2P.

So again, goodluck to you and your game, I honestly wish it well.

P.S. stay out of my forum if you can't stand me in yours ;)

Your opinion of a gaming companies situation isn't being "realistic". What exactly do you know about them and their plans, or even their overall financial situation, apart from what they've made known? I'm sure you're not anymore enlightened than the rest of us.

Fallen Earth was also an indie developed game, and aside from going through some rocky transitions, is still running strong (better than ever even) with their new F2P hybrid system. The population seems very constant from what I've observed and it's considered a niche game, so there's a bigger market for gamers like us than you might care to believe. That's only one example.

If you really wished it well, you wouldn't make condescending, troll bait posts like that in the first place. Yeah, I've made several comments in the Diablo 3 forums, but it's normally only to rebuke mis-information or biased attacks on a game I happen to think doesn't get the credit it deserves - I even give D3 credit for what I feel it does right. I don't, however, make posts that do nothing but attack the quality and well-being of a game simply out of spite or because I think my opinion somehow out-weighs other's that don't share my own. That's more than I can say about several of the posts I've seen made by you in recent days. 

 

 Um fallen earth is one of the worst examples you could have used. First off the game started P2P with box sales, something PoE isn't starting with. It struggled along for 2 years before it was finally picked up. Now its F2P by another company with some 'P2W' elements. The game is part of Steams F2P mmo category, of course its going to be better free than when it was P2P when it has steam advertising. Without steam that game would have fallen well past earth.

Either way, PoE caters to a smaller group of people. If they don't sell content, they'll have to make the cash shop P2W.. so really I don't know how this can end well for the game.

I gave the game an honest run and i've already said what I think is bad about it in posts before. If the game keeps going then awesome if not i'm sorry people wasted money on a beta.

If you had actually read what I wrote, you'd see the "rocky transitions" part of my post. I'm well aware of what it went through, but the fact remains, it's still around, it's F2P, and it's still going strong. Obviously, an indie developer is at a loss in just about every way when going into an endeavour like this, but that's more the reason why I respect them over a company like Blizzard, who despite being able to pour countless resources into a mainstream title like D3, came out with what I feel is a lackluster product, even next to an indie developed game like PoE or FE.

I also disagree that without steam FE would have failed, as it had a decent sized population even before it started being sold there, but I'm not getting into that here.

So yeah, you can continue to recite your "doom and gloom" speak towards any game that doesn't get your seal of approval, that's cool. I'll keep on playing underdog games like FE and Istaria that I feel are far superior to many of those polished pieces of sh*t that are backed by million dollar investors. If they bite the bullet then whatever, I'll enjoy and support them while they're here.

 

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by IrishChai
To the posters that are hell bent on looking down on others for their opinions, or getting offensive and insulting about another person's interest in a game, you just need to be aware there are people on this Earth that do think differently than you do and it does not mean they are lesser beings because of it. You don't need to say that all people who think [insert anybody's opinion here] must be [your condescending, insulting opinion of them]. It'll make these forums a much better place without those comments.

Agreed. I'll admit that I get a bit too personal at times but in the end, I acknowledge the fact that people have different tastes and that's just how it is. That said, I've stated my mind about my feelings on D3, so I don't plan on posting over on that board much anymore. 

In a situation like this, where two games are competing in a similar market, conversation of the two typically tend to degrade down to a "I'm right and you're an idiot" slugfest on both sides. I'm done with taking part in that atmosphere.

 My reason for even posting in this thread was for the whole fact that the op recommends the game and the only reason he can give is because it more or less is that PoE is what D3 should have been.

Just so you understand, the PoE community has been rather hateful, ignorant and just rude to the D3 one. So yes I may have came off a bit rude and that I apologize if you were offended. That said, my comment about it staying alive was honest but I didn't mean any ill will with that part :p

Well, in all fairness, it's his opinion, and I happen to agree with him. Perhaps he could have elaborated a bit more, but regardless, he's entitled to feel that way he wants about it.

That might be the general inclination here on the mmorpg forums, but from what I've seen on the official forums, they don't seem any more hateful than any other gaming community. I doubt the D3 community is all that different in itself. I've seen more than a fair amount of hate-mongering towards PoE from the D3 crowd as well.

That said, I'm also sorry for personal attacks that I throw in my posts from time to time. I think this is a situation where we just need to agree to disagree and call it a day. 

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by IrishChai
To the posters that are hell bent on looking down on others for their opinions, or getting offensive and insulting about another person's interest in a game, you just need to be aware there are people on this Earth that do think differently than you do and it does not mean they are lesser beings because of it. You don't need to say that all people who think [insert anybody's opinion here] must be [your condescending, insulting opinion of them]. It'll make these forums a much better place without those comments.

Agreed. I'll admit that I get a bit too personal at times but in the end, I acknowledge the fact that people have different tastes and that's just how it is. That said, I've stated my mind about my feelings on D3, so I don't plan on posting over on that board much anymore. 

In a situation like this, where two games are competing in a similar market, conversation of the two typically tend to degrade down to a "I'm right and you're an idiot" slugfest on both sides. I'm done with taking part in that atmosphere.

 My reason for even posting in this thread was for the whole fact that the op recommends the game and the only reason he can give is because it more or less is that PoE is what D3 should have been.

Just so you understand, the PoE community has been rather hateful, ignorant and just rude to the D3 one. So yes I may have came off a bit rude and that I apologize if you were offended. That said, my comment about it staying alive was honest but I didn't mean any ill will with that part :p

Well, in all fairness, it's his opinion, and I happen to agree with him. Perhaps he could have elaborated a bit more, but regardless, he's entitled to feel that way he wants about it.

That might be the general inclincation here on the mmorpg forums, but from what I've seen on the official forums, they don't seem any more hateful than any other gaming community. I doubt the D3 community is all that different in itself. I've seen more than a fair amount of hate-mongering towards PoE from the D3 crowd as well.

That said, I'm also sorry for personal attacks that I throw in my posts from time to time. I think this is a situation where we just need to agree to disagree and call it a day. 

 Well you can't expect to compare a game to another without reasoning. If you think something won't come of it then you have another thing coming. Quite honestly about the D3 community, this site has a very small following though its growing. Now the confusion more or less happens when people use PoE or D3 just to start fights or bash another company/game. Most have no vested interest in either.

Either way, while my first post was meh I wasn't really attacking PoE and infact I merely commented on the situation it was in and how it could be a concern. I respect peoples opinions, just not when they're wide open vague remarks. Just tell me why something is and i'll be more inclined to listen.

Anyways, take it easy i've had enough misunderstandings for one night.

Well said guys, and I think that totally swayed the atmosphere to a better one at least in this thread. I think we just need to remember we all like the genre and hope to make it better via respectful opinions and criticism.

 

Getting back on topic though, I liked PoE for what it's worth. The skill tree is a little nuts, but it's growing on me. That has to be the most elaborate skill traits/talent tree ever. I liked Diablo 3 a lot more though and May 15th couldn't come too soon. The more I play of PoE, the more I recognize it needs a lot of work still but it nails some key areas of an ARPG to make it fun for me. A part of me is saying I might not ever login to it again once D3 is available, but we'll see. The PoE devs are clear that it has a long way to go so I have to respect they know it and are working hard on it. When some of the D3 fans get bored between expansions, PoE might be the perfect alternative as it continues to improve and upon it's release.

I refuse to pay them for something I can't try.  Give me a trial version that really sells it to me and then I'll decide.  The skill tree is interesting, but everything else looks dated and the art direction is horrid.  That doesn't mean it can't be fun as Minecraft looks horrible but is super fun.  I've just not seen anything that screams "pay for me".

 

The fact that most POE proponents say D3 sucks, based on a small taste, only pushes me away from POE.  I don't claim that POE sucks because I haven't played it.

 

Action RPGs are not as exclusive as MMOs seem to be.  It's really easy to bounce from one ARPG to another and still have fun.  It's a tough market though as Titan Quests developers went under and they made a pretty good game.  Not having something like BNET was a big reason.

Just finished my first taste of the public stress test.  I am impressed, and I didn't think i would be.  Seems to play like GW! in that you only see other players in the camps/cities. Heavily instanced. But a lot of fun, imho. I tried the witch and did well - got to the fetid pool and then things beat the crap out me... got to remember I am lightly armored and need to hit and run away.  I like it.  

Edited for this:  I have not played D3 and so am not comparing D3 and PoE.  I like PoE.  Whether or not I like D3 will depend on if i get to try it and see for myself.  If you have played both and like 1 over the other - cool... but don't trash other people for having other opinions.   My opinion.

I've had a chance to reach level 7 in the stress test as a Marauder.  It didn't grab me in the way the D3 beta did.  The mobs and environments are uninspired and the combat was really boring.  The inventory space is tiny but the stash is huge.  the relative scarcity of item ID scrolls was a turnoff.

 

In order to group with someone else you have to /invite them.  They have no games to join and select from.  The passive tree is just like FF, which is fine but it's just a passive tree.

 

On a whole I'd rate it just below Titan Quest in terms of fun factor and way behind TL and D3.  Their F2P is a selling point, but considering they compete against B2P games that's not a HUGE issue.  As of right now, if I could only choose between TL2 and POE I'd grab TL2 without a doubt.

 

It definitely feels like a step back for the genre.

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I've had a chance to reach level 7 in the stress test as a Marauder.  It didn't grab me in the way the D3 beta did.  The mobs and environments are uninspired and the combat was really boring.  The inventory space is tiny but the stash is huge.  the relative scarcity of item ID scrolls was a turnoff.

 

In order to group with someone else you have to /invite them.  They have no games to join and select from.  The passive tree is just like FF, which is fine but it's just a passive tree.

 

On a whole I'd rate it just below Titan Quest in terms of fun factor and way behind TL and D3.  Their F2P is a selling point, but considering they compete against B2P games that's not a HUGE issue.  As of right now, if I could only choose between TL2 and POE I'd grab TL2 without a doubt.

 

It definitely feels like a step back for the genre.

Lvl 7? you clearly didn't give it a chance then, that takes like 10-15 mins. I've been playing it for a couple weeks now and I'm really enjoying it, much more than the D3 beta, but to each their own.

 

edit: It lacks story/voiceover but has great gameplay imo. I never cared for story in ARPGs anyway since I haven't played one with good story yet. I play ARPG's to hack n slash monsters, collect interesting loot and min/max the performance of my character and those are areas where PoE shines.

Agreed...

 

i couldnt help but feel i was playing a downgraded diablo 2.

 

this might have had a chance if it released a couple years after diablo 2 but to try and compete now : l

sure it will still get lots of support but not as much as others.

I am in Closed Beta and I can't stop playing, Just stopped playing after 5 hours non stop. Possibilities are awesome, all the systems are refreshing and interesting, environments are dark gritty and really work well. They are still working on making it better and it is so refreshing to see a company that makes something different than every other game keeping same gameplay to not make it too hard to understand for handicapped people.

I really think that after finishing D3 , I will play PoE even MORE

Originally posted by Foncl

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I've had a chance to reach level 7 in the stress test as a Marauder.  It didn't grab me in the way the D3 beta did.  The mobs and environments are uninspired and the combat was really boring.  The inventory space is tiny but the stash is huge.  the relative scarcity of item ID scrolls was a turnoff.

 

In order to group with someone else you have to /invite them.  They have no games to join and select from.  The passive tree is just like FF, which is fine but it's just a passive tree.

 

On a whole I'd rate it just below Titan Quest in terms of fun factor and way behind TL and D3.  Their F2P is a selling point, but considering they compete against B2P games that's not a HUGE issue.  As of right now, if I could only choose between TL2 and POE I'd grab TL2 without a doubt.

 

It definitely feels like a step back for the genre.

Lvl 7? you clearly didn't give it a chance then, that takes like 10-15 mins. I've been playing it for a couple weeks now and I'm really enjoying it,much more than the D3 beta, but to each their own.

10-15 minutes?  I don't think so, certainly not this first time around.  The game should grab you in the beginning and this game doesn't.  I'm sure adding voice overs will help, but it is not a modern game and it lacks fun combat, polish and solid art direction. 

You are lucky haven't played even older version of the game. 

Too bad the good environment are in Act 2 right now ;)

What D3 should have been...period

Originally posted by albaficass

What D3 should have been...period

Completely disagree. My friend absolutely loves Path of Exile but I've yet to completely see the charm of the game. I would say that it's really good for a Free to Play game but in terms of pure quality and fun, it doesn't come anywhere close to Diablo 3 or likely Torchlight. But everyone should try it for themselves because I do think it's decent but no, it's nowhere near as good as Diablo.

Its a solid game but is lacking in the ai mechanic area atm(havent playd in 3-4 weeks so they might have added some already), i bet they will fix this at a later date but i didt meet many uniq mechanic in the game.

Like d3 had a 4 pillers that respawn enemys constant until killed, its simple stuff and quite standard but i would like to see alot more of those type in the game at a later date.

The passive tree is amazing and gives you a ton of options to how you want to build your character something d3 sadly lacked, but ill play d3 until PoE mature a little more and they add most of the stuff they want. All in all PoE was solid.