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Mutable Realms, Inc.
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Wish Forum » General Discussion raquo; wish alive???

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  dutchfighter

Novice Member

Joined: 5/03/04
Posts: 12

sex and diplomacy are the same.....it's all about fucking eachother

 
1/12/05 8:27:44 AM#1

yeah you hear it well.....wish ain't really alive, BUT there is a group trying to get it that way. for further info visit www.projectwish.com and join the forums over there.....i already signed up for helping the people who have the same target as i have......KEEP THE GAME ALIVE.

  binary_0011

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/01/04
Posts: 531

Use your common sense.

1/12/05 9:41:19 AM#2

it is about money, do you have billion of dollars? then go ahead and invest.

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  dutchfighter

Novice Member

Joined: 5/03/04
Posts: 12

sex and diplomacy are the same.....it's all about fucking eachother

 
1/12/05 9:45:30 AM#3

i heard it was a financial problem in another way......the games technology was to far ahead on the average gamer. So people could not play the game because they didn't had the hardware for it. WHich means less players. They found that out during beta. And cancelled it.

So i think there is a chance

and sure you can go ahead and say "ohh that ain't gonna work"

but you can also (i think that's a better point of view)try and do something.

  BlackAlpha

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Joined: 1/10/05
Posts: 6

1/12/05 4:23:09 PM#4

They actually closed it because they only had 1 server which costs hell of alot. They needed atleast 40000+ people to pay for the game but there were not so many people so they closed it before they lost huge amounts of money.

Project Wish is going to make a new Wish with another engine, so basically it's a whole new game. I don't know if it will keep the same "wish" feeling. I sure hope it will but those chances are small. But maybe it will be even better, who knows?

  nephillim

Novice Member

Joined: 5/21/04
Posts: 292

1/12/05 6:50:31 PM#5

actually the main aim of Project Wish is to get MR to re-start development.


-it's just a dream-

[we need a worldwide genocide/ a planetary suicide/ and when the whole damned world is dead/ there''s your f***ing peace]

  BlackAlpha

Novice Member

Joined: 1/10/05
Posts: 6

1/13/05 6:24:33 AM#6

Project Wish got 2 main objectives. 1. Contact MR and let them restart Wish. 2. Make a new Wish on a new engine. For now they haven't been succesful with plan 1 so they are now busy working on plan 2.

  Fadeus

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Joined: 6/03/04
Posts: 5331

1/13/05 7:04:16 AM#7


Originally posted by BlackAlpha
Project Wish got 2 main objectives. 1. Contact MR and let them restart Wish. 2. Make a new Wish on a new engine. For now they haven't been succesful with plan 1 so they are now busy working on plan 2.


No, actually plan 2 was to make a server emulator for it which I am not even sure is legal. Not a real good way to tell the developers you seriously support them and want them to restart development.

- Fadeus Hawkwood

- Fadeus

"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  dsorrent

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Joined: 10/19/03
Posts: 1627

1/13/05 9:55:51 AM#8


Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by BlackAlpha
Project Wish got 2 main objectives. 1. Contact MR and let them restart Wish. 2. Make a new Wish on a new engine. For now they haven't been succesful with plan 1 so they are now busy working on plan 2.


No, actually plan 2 was to make a server emulator for it which I am not even sure is legal. Not a real good way to tell the developers you seriously support them and want them to restart development.

- Fadeus Hawkwood


I'm not so sure about this.. Their last IRC logs that were posted were talking about rendering engines, so this would be client side code. If they were only going to go the server emulator route, then they wouldn't be ever able to make any enhancements to the non-supported client. I believe they are now looking at doing a whole package deal, writing a MMORPG from scratch. Server and Client sides.

  Fadeus

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Joined: 6/03/04
Posts: 5331

1/13/05 9:57:58 AM#9


Originally posted by dsorrent

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by BlackAlpha
Project Wish got 2 main objectives. 1. Contact MR and let them restart Wish. 2. Make a new Wish on a new engine. For now they haven't been succesful with plan 1 so they are now busy working on plan 2.


No, actually plan 2 was to make a server emulator for it which I am not even sure is legal. Not a real good way to tell the developers you seriously support them and want them to restart development.

- Fadeus Hawkwood


I'm not so sure about this.. Their last IRC logs that were posted were talking about rendering engines, so this would be client side code. If they were only going to go the server emulator route, then they wouldn't be ever able to make any enhancements to the non-supported client. I believe they are now looking at doing a whole package deal, writing a MMORPG from scratch. Server and Client sides.


well unless their site changed, I looked at the site right after it went up and they stated they were going to write a server application to work with the client. Atleast that was a very strong impression I got, I don't recall the actualy passage at the moment. So perhaps they realized their error and changed it. I don't know.

- Fadeus Hawkwood

- Fadeus

"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  Fadeus

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Joined: 6/03/04
Posts: 5331

1/13/05 10:04:01 AM#10

Silly question thought, but if they basically "remade" wish, as a completely non profit effort wouldnt it be completely out of date by the time it released if it ever did? Let alone not going into the fact that once you get new human minds into remaking something, they are going to want to "improve" upon it in the own idea of what is better.

- Fadeus Hawkwood

- Fadeus

"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  dsorrent

Novice Member

Joined: 10/19/03
Posts: 1627

1/13/05 10:37:17 AM#11


Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by dsorrent

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by BlackAlpha
Project Wish got 2 main objectives. 1. Contact MR and let them restart Wish. 2. Make a new Wish on a new engine. For now they haven't been succesful with plan 1 so they are now busy working on plan 2.


No, actually plan 2 was to make a server emulator for it which I am not even sure is legal. Not a real good way to tell the developers you seriously support them and want them to restart development.

- Fadeus Hawkwood


I'm not so sure about this.. Their last IRC logs that were posted were talking about rendering engines, so this would be client side code. If they were only going to go the server emulator route, then they wouldn't be ever able to make any enhancements to the non-supported client. I believe they are now looking at doing a whole package deal, writing a MMORPG from scratch. Server and Client sides.


well unless their site changed, I looked at the site right after it went up and they stated they were going to write a server application to work with the client. Atleast that was a very strong impression I got, I don't recall the actualy passage at the moment. So perhaps they realized their error and changed it. I don't know.

- Fadeus Hawkwood


Yes, it has changed.. if you go look in the forums, there's corresponence with Mutable Realms posted in there where basically they said don't have high hopes on getting hold of any of the source code. They also pointed out that their source code relies heavily on several other commercial products, so to turn it into an open source project would not be possible anyway.

  dsorrent

Novice Member

Joined: 10/19/03
Posts: 1627

1/13/05 10:41:09 AM#12


Originally posted by Fadeus
Silly question thought, but if they basically "remade" wish, as a completely non profit effort wouldnt it be completely out of date by the time it released if it ever did? Let alone not going into the fact that once you get new human minds into remaking something, they are going to want to "improve" upon it in the own idea of what is better.

- Fadeus Hawkwood


Look at Planeshift.. that game is an open source, non-profit game which is still rolling. Really over time, the only thing that becomes "out of date" is the graphics. On a game which has good mechanics, it will be just as good in 10 years from now as it is today. The problem is people always want better eye candy. The plus side is, if coded correctly, the graphics engine can be swapped out at a later time. You see that happeneing in the industry today with current games. I believe EQ and UO have done it and I think AC1 is planning an expansion in the very near future that will upgrade the graphics.

Yes, everyone would want to "morph" the project into their own vision. That's why you need some sort of organization established with a plan. Mole is trying to get that laid down now so we'll see how it goes.

  Fadeus

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Joined: 6/03/04
Posts: 5331

1/13/05 11:35:05 AM#13

Sounds fine but it don't really sound like its about saving wish then at this point. Just another MMO coming up in the future. Time will tell though.

- Fadeus Hawkwood

- Fadeus

"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World