Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by mudd4ever

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by mudd4ever

Also~ I am wondering, did you play around much with character customization?  It actually looks pretty in depth from what I've seen of it in some vids.

I hate Vindictus when it comes to customizing your characters.  So few options.  Everyone has the same face because of the named player characters (Evie, Lann, Fiona, etc.) ,which I think is crappy but I know it has to be that way in that game by design.  And don't even get me started on purchasing dye ampules with NX.  That you can't even be guaranteed of getting the colors you want even if you fork over money.  I refuse to do that again.  Please tell me C9 doesn't have something that dumb as part of their dye system.

customization is very very limited about the same as vindictus actually

Orly?  Okay now I'm officially sad.  It looked like there were facial sliders and more body sliders than Vindictus from the vids, but maybe I was mistaken.

/SADFACE!!!!!!!

you basically have 3 pre-set faces then you have sliders for parts of the face but overall you can't really change the character that much.. theres full face tattoos which are really dumb and standard 10 or so hair styles.. you can adjust the parts of the body a little but not a whole lot.. maybe a TAD more than vindictus but not anything to write home about

Are you fucking kidding me...that's better than most MMOs today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5eOPn25WcI This video clearly shows there is a lot to it. I think you are just not giving it a chance.

Originally posted by revy66

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by mudd4ever

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by mudd4ever

Also~ I am wondering, did you play around much with character customization?  It actually looks pretty in depth from what I've seen of it in some vids.

I hate Vindictus when it comes to customizing your characters.  So few options.  Everyone has the same face because of the named player characters (Evie, Lann, Fiona, etc.) ,which I think is crappy but I know it has to be that way in that game by design.  And don't even get me started on purchasing dye ampules with NX.  That you can't even be guaranteed of getting the colors you want even if you fork over money.  I refuse to do that again.  Please tell me C9 doesn't have something that dumb as part of their dye system.

customization is very very limited about the same as vindictus actually

Orly?  Okay now I'm officially sad.  It looked like there were facial sliders and more body sliders than Vindictus from the vids, but maybe I was mistaken.

/SADFACE!!!!!!!

you basically have 3 pre-set faces then you have sliders for parts of the face but overall you can't really change the character that much.. theres full face tattoos which are really dumb and standard 10 or so hair styles.. you can adjust the parts of the body a little but not a whole lot.. maybe a TAD more than vindictus but not anything to write home about

Are you fucking kidding me...that's better than most MMOs today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5eOPn25WcI This video clearly shows there is a lot to it. I think you are just not giving it a chance.

trust me I like these kinds of games but vindictus is a WAY better game and is free so why even play this one.

oh and for the customization it really isn't that good the overall face looks the same minus being able to move the eyebrows up and such but you can even see it in the video looks about the same.. its good customization for a free game but nothing great

Vindictous better looking then C9? Thats not what i remember from the korean Version. 

For me that sounds some biased vindictous fanboy or paid idiot is trying to trash talk c9.

Originally posted by Otomox

Vindictous better looking then C9? Thats not what i remember from the korean Version. 

For me that sounds some biased vindictous fanboy or paid idiot is trying to trash talk c9.

i dont even play vindictus anymore.. why would I need to come here and bash C9 who the hell even heard of this game anyway? I just got the email couple weeks ago about the beta and it looked interesting so I figured I'd give it a shot. .I played TONS of f2p asian games in the past and this one is just not worth playing.. just my opinion but there it is.

also the reason i say vindictus looks better is because of the engines support for external forms of AA such as SGSSAA and SSAA this really cleans up the entire game and makes it looks a lot better. C9 i could not do that. In C9 you have a couple nice effects like being able to change the overall contrast and color but overall the graphics were very bland and AA was pretty much non existent. Also like I said before you get texture pop-ins everytime you move which is very odd and is annoying as hell. 

someone posted on another forum how to fix the pop-in thing and read you can use smaa injector so ill give it another shot tommorow.. not holding my breath though:)

Originally posted by Otomox

Vindictous better looking then C9? Thats not what i remember from the korean Version. 

For me that sounds some biased vindictous fanboy or paid idiot is trying to trash talk c9.

I get the same feeling.

I have not played the game but Spunkify mentioned that C9s graphics were on par or maybe slightly better than that of Vindictus.

And from other videos I have seen of C9 the combat is just far more interesting than anything Vindictus ever offered.

Originally posted by SlyLoK

Originally posted by Otomox

Vindictous better looking then C9? Thats not what i remember from the korean Version. 

For me that sounds some biased vindictous fanboy or paid idiot is trying to trash talk c9.

I get the same feeling.

I have not played the game but Spunkify mentioned that C9s graphics were on par or maybe slightly better than that of Vindictus.

And from other videos I have seen of C9 the combat is just far more interesting than anything Vindictus ever offered.

you can see on C9s forums people complaining graphics don't look like what they see in videos on youtube.. i'm going ot play around more tomorow see if I can get it worked out.. but if I can't get rid of this texture pop-in thing the game is unplayable for me.. well see

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by SlyLoK

Originally posted by Otomox

Vindictous better looking then C9? Thats not what i remember from the korean Version. 

For me that sounds some biased vindictous fanboy or paid idiot is trying to trash talk c9.

I get the same feeling.

I have not played the game but Spunkify mentioned that C9s graphics were on par or maybe slightly better than that of Vindictus.

And from other videos I have seen of C9 the combat is just far more interesting than anything Vindictus ever offered.

you can see on C9s forums people complaining graphics don't look like what they see in videos on youtube.. i'm going ot play around more tomorow see if I can get it worked out.. but if I can't get rid of this texture pop-in thing the game is unplayable for me.. well see

If it works can you please post how to fix it?

Originally posted by mudd4ever

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by SlyLoK

Originally posted by Otomox

Vindictous better looking then C9? Thats not what i remember from the korean Version. 

For me that sounds some biased vindictous fanboy or paid idiot is trying to trash talk c9.

I get the same feeling.

I have not played the game but Spunkify mentioned that C9s graphics were on par or maybe slightly better than that of Vindictus.

And from other videos I have seen of C9 the combat is just far more interesting than anything Vindictus ever offered.

you can see on C9s forums people complaining graphics don't look like what they see in videos on youtube.. i'm going ot play around more tomorow see if I can get it worked out.. but if I can't get rid of this texture pop-in thing the game is unplayable for me.. well see

If it works can you please post how to fix it?

sure will:)

Remember that you must restart the client to see the changes in the gfx or at least do them in a city otherwise most of them simply wont apply till next season or your char hit a city, by default there is no shadows, dof, etc... and the view distance and pop up are bad as hell.

Anyway, you know that this game is even older than Mabinogi Heroes (aka Vindictus) ? So the gfx are slightly better than Vindictus imo, but dont expect a big jump on that department, the combat system is much more deep than Vindictus one, but you must play a few levels at least to get some skills and see how they merge together.

Just play till level 15 or so, that will be a pair of hours more or less, then you will have a more accurate idea of the game and you will be able to decide if the gameplay fits your needs.

Originally posted by judex99

Remember that you must restart the client to see the changes in the gfx or at least do them in a city otherwise most of them simply wont apply till next season or your char hit a city, by default there is no shadows, dof, etc... and the view distance and pop up are bad as hell.

Anyway, you know that this game is even older than Mabinogi Heroes (aka Vindictus) ? So the gfx are slightly better than Vindictus imo, but dont expect a big jump on that department, the combat system is much more deep than Vindictus one, but you must play a few levels at least to get some skills and see how they merge together.

Just play till level 15 or so, that will be a pair of hours more or less, then you will have a more accurate idea of the game and you will be able to decide if the gameplay fits your needs.

 

ill try again today but if there really is no way to extend the pop-in i can't even play the game the pop-in distance is litteraly a couple feet in front of your face for some objects and the terrain keeps changing almost every step you take

gave it another chance.. was able to turn AA on with a cfg file change but its very low AA like 2x so isn't very good.. game is just not very good in any shape or form... i only compare it to vindictus because its such a similar game. They have some serious render/draw distance issues where parts of the ground and trees render differntly depending on how close you are sort of like how some games use high quality close up and low quality far away but in this case it does this within a few steps in front of your face. Combat got little better after level 5 but it's nothing great and doesn't overshadow in awayway the other shortfalls of this game which would be just about everything else about it... anyway when its released f2p yuo can make your own opinions but it's not anything ill be playing.

This game was released (in Korea) before Vindictus, it's probably one of the first action MMOs, Webzen is late on getting this localized because right about when this game came out in Korea they (webzen) had a big shake up of starting their own western game portal and taking their games back from several western localizers that were handling things poorly (Codemasters and Ijji).

as well as one of their major partners in Korea (NHN) screwed the pooch and got themselves in financial trouble.

yeah Vindictus has got the better engine, but you notice that this game has got none of Vindictus's lag? no it's not got perfect visual effects, but look past that as see what it's doing with those visuals. make no mistake this game is the original, Vindictus is the blatant copy; don't be fooled by Webzen being a small name in the west + Vindictus getting more hype and a faster western localization.

keep in mind that Vindictus has got WAY less content to deal with when it comes to translations from Korean + bug fixes, shit the game shipped with only two of the 5 classes completed ... that should give you an idea of how half ass it was kicked out the door.

and yes you do need to spend a bit more time with the game, develop your characters skills, get to about level 10-ish and then make a run on the Imp forest set to "master" difficulty. then you will really see what the game is capable of as you wade through actual swarms of minions, I got multiple 80+ hit combos and one 104 hitter. past that point the game stops giving you freebies and you gotta get into the crafting, even then the game makes you earn your keep as you get only 1 crafting profession you can pick up as a sub class and the in game materials dealer charges so much they may as well have a sign on his saying "my only purpose is to put a cap on market inflation".

stop crying and give the game an honest swing, gaurenteed you will stop counting pixels on your bow string about half way through the second dungeon ...

Originally posted by Sogi-Ya

This game was released (in Korea) before Vindictus, it's probably one of the first action MMOs, Webzen is late on getting this localized because right about when this game came out in Korea they (webzen) had a big shake up of starting their own western game portal and taking their games back from several western localizers that were handling things poorly (Codemasters and Ijji).

as well as one of their major partners in Korea (NHN) screwed the pooch and got themselves in financial trouble.

yeah Vindictus has got the better engine, but you notice that this game has got none of Vindictus's lag? no it's not got perfect visual effects, but look past that as see what it's doing with those visuals. make no mistake this game is the original, Vindictus is the blatant copy; don't be fooled by Webzen being a small name in the west + Vindictus getting more hype and a faster western localization.

keep in mind that Vindictus has got WAY less content to deal with when it comes to translations from Korean + bug fixes, shit the game shipped with only two of the 5 classes completed ... that should give you an idea of how half ass it was kicked out the door.

and yes you do need to spend a bit more time with the game, develop your characters skills, get to about level 10-ish and then make a run on the Imp forest set to "master" difficulty. then you will really see what the game is capable of as you wade through actual swarms of minions, I got multiple 80+ hit combos and one 104 hitter. past that point the game stops giving you freebies and you gotta get into the crafting, even then the game makes you earn your keep as you get only 1 crafting profession you can pick up as a sub class and the in game materials dealer charges so much they may as well have a sign on his saying "my only purpose is to put a cap on market inflation".

 

stop crying and give the game an honest swing, gaurenteed you will stop counting pixels on your bow string about half way through the second dungeon ...

gave it an honest swing... got to level 15.. game is just not very good.. suppose if i played it 10 years ago I might change my tune but it's just not worth playing now to me.  Got Tera beta comming this weekend to get to try out more action mmo combat then there's Kingdom of Amalur thats taking most my time not not to mention Finla Fantasy X13-2.. just no point in playing this one with all the other good games out there

It looks to me, you only seem to care, if game is a eye candy or not.

Well you don't deserve a test account for any games and write a comment about them.

It's really ridiculous to see flaming a game based on a graphics.

You comments have full of texts and most of them is about the graphics and yet you say the game is not good.

At least point out what you didn't like before saying, it's not good, it's not worth playing etc.

If you write more comments about any games in future, graphic part is all I'm gonna trust from your words.

Actually I cannot trust your words about the graphic part also.

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by Sogi-Ya

This game was released (in Korea) before Vindictus, it's probably one of the first action MMOs, Webzen is late on getting this localized because right about when this game came out in Korea they (webzen) had a big shake up of starting their own western game portal and taking their games back from several western localizers that were handling things poorly (Codemasters and Ijji).

as well as one of their major partners in Korea (NHN) screwed the pooch and got themselves in financial trouble.

yeah Vindictus has got the better engine, but you notice that this game has got none of Vindictus's lag? no it's not got perfect visual effects, but look past that as see what it's doing with those visuals. make no mistake this game is the original, Vindictus is the blatant copy; don't be fooled by Webzen being a small name in the west + Vindictus getting more hype and a faster western localization.

keep in mind that Vindictus has got WAY less content to deal with when it comes to translations from Korean + bug fixes, shit the game shipped with only two of the 5 classes completed ... that should give you an idea of how half ass it was kicked out the door.

and yes you do need to spend a bit more time with the game, develop your characters skills, get to about level 10-ish and then make a run on the Imp forest set to "master" difficulty. then you will really see what the game is capable of as you wade through actual swarms of minions, I got multiple 80+ hit combos and one 104 hitter. past that point the game stops giving you freebies and you gotta get into the crafting, even then the game makes you earn your keep as you get only 1 crafting profession you can pick up as a sub class and the in game materials dealer charges so much they may as well have a sign on his saying "my only purpose is to put a cap on market inflation".

 

stop crying and give the game an honest swing, gaurenteed you will stop counting pixels on your bow string about half way through the second dungeon ...

gave it an honest swing... got to level 15.. game is just not very good.. suppose if i played it 10 years ago I might change my tune but it's just not worth playing now to me.  Got Tera beta comming this weekend to get to try out more action mmo combat then there's Kingdom of Amalur thats taking most my time not not to mention Finla Fantasy X13-2.. just no point in playing this one with all the other good games out there

 Just wanted to add in his writting style,

"Just No Point in reading this guy's review with all the other good Reviews about C9 out there."

Originally posted by sanosukex

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gave it an honest swing... got to level 15.. game is just not very good.. suppose if i played it 10 years ago I might change my tune but it's just not worth playing now to me.  Got Tera beta comming this weekend to get to try out more action mmo combat then there's Kingdom of Amalur thats taking most my time not not to mention Finla Fantasy X13-2.. just no point in playing this one with all the other good games out there

Question. Have you ever taken part in a beta test where you actually did some testing? You know, look for problems and provide feedback? Or do you just play them so that you can rave or rage about them in forums?

Originally posted by kalp01

It looks to me, you only seem to care, if game is a eye candy or not.

Well, in fact he is wrong on that also, C9 is eye candy, from the MMO's i have played is there on top in the gfx dept., only TEra i put it over and maybe FFXVI but thats a fiasco as a game.

Some examples:

Originally posted by judex99

Originally posted by kalp01

It looks to me, you only seem to care, if game is a eye candy or not.

 

Well, in fact he is wrong on that also, C9 is eye candy, from the MMO's i have played is there on top in the gfx dept., only TEra i put it over and maybe FFXVI but thats a fiasco as a game.

Some examples:

 

 

 

please show me video of these awsome graphics because its not hard to make a single SS from a game look good.. ingame to me looks pretty bad and the pop-ins are incredibly bad.. either way graphics aside I found combat in vindictous more fuild and worked well with my 360 controller. Sorry didn't think having a opinion on this game was againts the forums TOS ill refrain from posting anything else on this game unless its 100% positive.

oh and TERA is eyecandy this game is not eyecandy

Originally posted by eyelolled

Originally posted by sanosukex

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gave it an honest swing... got to level 15.. game is just not very good.. suppose if i played it 10 years ago I might change my tune but it's just not worth playing now to me.  Got Tera beta comming this weekend to get to try out more action mmo combat then there's Kingdom of Amalur thats taking most my time not not to mention Finla Fantasy X13-2.. just no point in playing this one with all the other good games out there

Question. Have you ever taken part in a beta test where you actually did some testing? You know, look for problems and provide feedback? Or do you just play them so that you can rave or rage about them in forums?

sure have been doing this since before EQ1 since around gemstone 3/ dragonrealms time.. and in these years I can tell if it's a quality game to me within the first 10 levels.. but thanks ill remember to post my 10 page manifest on the problems I found next time.