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Pirates of the Burning Sea Forum » General Discussion raquo; Xteaming in PotBS is a big scam
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Hello, I had to voice my opinion on this game, i've been playing it on and off since 04/08: Recently FLS studios has allowed its community to Xteams therefore resulting for sure in the collaspe of the game. Playing in multiple nations on the same server : to me spells cheating. i was attracted to the game due to its historical features and the not so bad ship fighting. My quetions to the DEV's, Why? the hell would the administration at FLS allow such a disaster:??? I undestand only 1 conclusion more money for them due to its own failure as an MMO... Therefore im putting a bid to buy the game off Fls and take over their administration for a lousy $5.00 us..b4 the game is totally dead... with my none experience in the industry i believe that i could do a better job than FLS... FLS do not listen to their community they are a bunch or money making scamers, i cant believe i wasted so much time in this game: My question to the MMO gamers out there: WHY? do you as a gamer CHEAT?... xcuse my typos:)
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10/08/09 11:50:25 PM#2
Being able to have chars of multiple factions didn't really hurt Planetside that much, but (a) I admittedly never quite felt the "underdog" bonuses were strong enough, (b) the "daily winner" was never worth anything so the 2 underdogs were rarely motivated to cooperate to attack the dominant faction, and (c) PS had 3 factions which already put it significant ahead of POTBS in terms of Territory PVP auto-balancing. With sufficient motivation for players to want to help the underdog faction, being able to faction-swap with a very short cooldown (~3 hours) seems quite reasonable. |
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10/09/09 6:26:54 PM#3
There's no way to stop it. Even before you could always get 2 accounts. MMOs should not rely on factions so heavily in the first place. ------------------------- |
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10/09/09 6:41:17 PM#4
I had to read half of the OP's post to figure out what Xteaming meant. Then I didn't care. |
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10/09/09 6:49:58 PM#5
Originally posted by Netzoko
Yeah... FLS should have either dsigned the game to acount for Multi Accounts from the beginning or made it against the rules and maintained a consistant policy on that. Maybe both. But they did neither. I tried playing Real Life but the graphics sucked, the community was annoying too. |
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Well potbs has 4 factions, Pirates, French, Brits and Spain... Being able to play in all 4 factions on the same server is not a game i want to play anymore... Reason 1: person 1, playing as all of the above ( meaning playing as a Rat as well as a Frog as well as a Don and a Brit: can easily take down or con or as i call it cyber bully a gamer into oblivion:((((... get it, not fair at all and not fun for the lil gamer with his 1 character playing in 1 nation. Fls has become hungry for cash and has lost its ability to turn a good game into something better, fail administration = fail game...
edit: i myself to gain an advantage has had 2 accounts, but i played as 2 Rats on the same server not Xteaming .... Xteaming is for losers |
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Originally posted by Gyrus
Yeah... FLS should have either dsigned the game to acount for Multi Accounts from the beginning or made it against the rules and maintained a consistant policy on that. Maybe both. But they did neither.
agreed:) Xteaming is for losers |
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xpowderx
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Joined: 10/09/05
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10/13/09 9:39:01 AM#8
If you were a game company. Would you rather your users play and buy one account or play and buy multiple accounts? I personally have seen more and more games allowing xteaming on servers. While most gamers do not like this until they do it. Most gaming companies do not. There is a difference though between Xteam farmers/botters and Xteam players. Keep that in mind. Success is your proof; |
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10/14/09 6:26:29 AM#9
Originally posted by xpowderx
Name the games. In some games Xteaming does not hurt. In which case Xteaming multis do no real harm and can be allowed. In some games Xteaming does hurt... in which case the Devs may allow multis but have rules and mechanics in place to prevent Xteaming. In PotBS both can potentially be harmful. But FLS never even seemed to consider it prior to release. Hardly up to standard for a developer with an RvR game. I tried playing Real Life but the graphics sucked, the community was annoying too. |
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Originally posted by Gyrus
Name the games. In some games Xteaming does not hurt. In which case Xteaming multis do no real harm and can be allowed. In some games Xteaming does hurt... in which case the Devs may allow multis but have rules and mechanics in place to prevent Xteaming. In PotBS both can potentially be harmful. But FLS never even seemed to consider it prior to release. Hardly up to standard for a developer with an RvR game. well my point exactly, from fail to failure:) they have no idea about how the game should work, i for 1 do not like Xteaming its wrong, made me quit the game, as honest as 1 can be Xteaming doesnt work. i know ive played the game... Xteaming is for losers |
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Originally posted by xpowderx
Well a cheat will always be a cheat , i guess we diff, i play for fun and to make friends, if i wanted to xteam i would but i dont as im not a nut case or game dictator or a loser that need to have everything. Being on all 4 nations and active at it on the same server is not fair for the gamer that plays with 1 account . If the company allows their members to cheat then they have no idea about game play or going back on their words read previous post:)... A gamer should only be allowed to play 1 nation on 1 server simple not hard to do. They can also allow that gamer to run as many accounts as long as its on the same nation..heck....... regards, Xteaming is for losers |
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10/19/09 11:00:56 PM#12
its not cheating if the rules say its fair... |
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Originally posted by Pyrostasis
lol ,so u a cheat then... will do anything to be the topdog hey.... Xteaming is for losers |
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10/20/09 12:06:36 AM#14
Originally posted by maxsauce
lol ,so u a cheat then... will do anything to be the topdog hey.... I dont play POTBS, havent since launch, however, if the devs say you can play all the sides at once (like DAOC does) then it isnt cheating. There is nothing wrong with it, and its a part of the game. It would be cheating if they said, doing this is against the rules. See the difference? |
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10/20/09 12:15:07 AM#15
EVE is far more unforgiving that Potbs (you can loose loads of stuff PvP'ing in EVE) and there are no rules against having 2 accounts...infact its even encouraged by the devs. The way i see it is most people who wish to cheat (i really dont see much of a problem with having multiple characters spread over different factions) are going to find a way to do it regardless of rules or game mechanics.
Someone who wants to spy on another faction can easily ask a friend to do it or (if they are crazy enough) hack/cheat to gain the info. The chances of someone doing this, taking the effort to gather this information for quite a small gain (in my eyes) is pointless. MMO wish list: -Changeable worlds |
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Originally posted by Pyrostasis I dont play POTBS, havent since launch, however, if the devs say you can play all the sides at once (like DAOC does) then it isnt cheating. There is nothing wrong with it, and its a part of the game. It would be cheating if they said, doing this is against the rules. See the difference? i do see yr point , just becasue the dev's says u can, previously u couldnt i might add, they change the concept. What im sayin is, its bad for a game with an RvR concept... if u r a gamer that likes to do such a thing then good on you.. What im sayin is that the game is fail as it has come this situation.. meaning its a Scam... Xteaming is wrong in an MMO and gamers should not be involved as its just makin the fail company more money.. get my point?
edited :) xcuse my typos:) Xteaming is for losers |
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Linna
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Joined: 5/01/05
Those who do not know their history, are bound to step in it. |
10/26/09 8:45:04 AM#17
Originally posted by maxsauce I dont play POTBS, havent since launch, however, if the devs say you can play all the sides at once (like DAOC does) then it isnt cheating. There is nothing wrong with it, and its a part of the game. It would be cheating if they said, doing this is against the rules. See the difference? i do see yr point , just becasue the dev's says u can, previously u couldnt i might add, they change the concept. What im sayin is, its bad for a game with an RvR concept... if u r a gamer that likes to do such a thing then good on you.. What im sayin is that the game is fail as it has come this situation.. meaning its a Scam... Xteaming is wrong in an MMO and gamers should not be involved as its just makin the fail company more money.. get my point?
edited :) xcuse my typos:)
In beta and at launch, having accounts on all sides WAS allowed, quite specifically so, with argumentation by the devs WHY they chose to allow it. Then they changed policy after 7 or so months, and suddenly made it forbidden (mostly because some new mechanics the devs added made exploiting easier if you owned accounts in multiple factions). Then they changed course again. As to it being bad for a game with an RvR concept, again I have to disagree. Forbidding xrealming will not stop espionage. It never has, it never will. To paraphrase FLS: there is nothing that can stop two roommates or siblings from having accounts on different sides and passing each other information. Two people who have access to the same ventrilo can do more damage than one person owning accounts in different nations. It's better to let it be a part of the game (games like SWG REQUIRED espionage in order to be able to take down enemy bases), so people can adjust their mindsets accordingly. I'd also like to point out that during my time in POTBS, the worst cases of nation griefing we witnessed was done by members of the British nation against their own side (sabotaging port battles, grinding up ports that put all the lower antilles in the red) and by members of the French nation against their own side (deliberately putting Cayo in the red by grinding up La Isabella and Havana). Linna |
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Originally posted by Linna i do see yr point , just becasue the dev's says u can, previously u couldnt i might add, they change the concept. What im sayin is, its bad for a game with an RvR concept... if u r a gamer that likes to do such a thing then good on you.. What im sayin is that the game is fail as it has come this situation.. meaning its a Scam... Xteaming is wrong in an MMO and gamers should not be involved as its just makin the fail company more money.. get my point?
edited :) xcuse my typos:)
In beta and at launch, having accounts on all sides WAS allowed, quite specifically so, with argumentation by the devs WHY they chose to allow it. Then they changed policy after 7 or so months, and suddenly made it forbidden (mostly because some new mechanics the devs added made exploiting easier if you owned accounts in multiple factions). Then they changed course again. As to it being bad for a game with an RvR concept, again I have to disagree. Forbidding xrealming will not stop espionage. It never has, it never will. To paraphrase FLS: there is nothing that can stop two roommates or siblings from having accounts on different sides and passing each other information. Two people who have access to the same ventrilo can do more damage than one person owning accounts in different nations. It's better to let it be a part of the game (games like SWG REQUIRED espionage in order to be able to take down enemy bases), so people can adjust their mindsets accordingly. I'd also like to point out that during my time in POTBS, the worst cases of nation griefing we witnessed was done by members of the British nation against their own side (sabotaging port battles, grinding up ports that put all the lower antilles in the red) and by members of the French nation against their own side (deliberately putting Cayo in the red by grinding up La Isabella and Havana). Linna Hi Linna, ty for yr point about this matter, too bad u didnt read the whole thing and maybe then u would've had better things to say:) Espionage is fine, yr example about roomies passin info is totally fine in by book, i also use to do it for the right price. As a rat based in MT we used to hit every town surrounding MT for the red zones for easy Pvp, so again i dont see a problem in that...as for ventrillo i used it to speak to my friends in multiple nations, for trading info etc so again no problems their.. My problem is with the people with the money to burn playin on every nations on the same server . makin the game shit for every1, thats not called espionage that called multiple personality disorder also called in the real word as schizophrenia. Xteaming is for losers |
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Linna
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Joined: 5/01/05
Those who do not know their history, are bound to step in it. |
10/27/09 12:14:22 AM#19
Originally posted by maxsauce i do see yr point , just becasue the dev's says u can, previously u couldnt i might add, they change the concept. What im sayin is, its bad for a game with an RvR concept... if u r a gamer that likes to do such a thing then good on you.. What im sayin is that the game is fail as it has come this situation.. meaning its a Scam... Xteaming is wrong in an MMO and gamers should not be involved as its just makin the fail company more money.. get my point?
edited :) xcuse my typos:)
In beta and at launch, having accounts on all sides WAS allowed, quite specifically so, with argumentation by the devs WHY they chose to allow it. Then they changed policy after 7 or so months, and suddenly made it forbidden (mostly because some new mechanics the devs added made exploiting easier if you owned accounts in multiple factions). Then they changed course again. As to it being bad for a game with an RvR concept, again I have to disagree. Forbidding xrealming will not stop espionage. It never has, it never will. To paraphrase FLS: there is nothing that can stop two roommates or siblings from having accounts on different sides and passing each other information. Two people who have access to the same ventrilo can do more damage than one person owning accounts in different nations. It's better to let it be a part of the game (games like SWG REQUIRED espionage in order to be able to take down enemy bases), so people can adjust their mindsets accordingly. I'd also like to point out that during my time in POTBS, the worst cases of nation griefing we witnessed was done by members of the British nation against their own side (sabotaging port battles, grinding up ports that put all the lower antilles in the red) and by members of the French nation against their own side (deliberately putting Cayo in the red by grinding up La Isabella and Havana). Linna Hi Linna, ty for yr point about this matter, too bad u didnt read the whole thing and maybe then u would've had better things to say:) Espionage is fine, yr example about roomies passin info is totally fine in by book, i also use to do it for the right price. As a rat based in MT we used to hit every town surrounding MT for the red zones for easy Pvp, so again i dont see a problem in that...as for ventrillo i used it to speak to my friends in multiple nations, for trading info etc so again no problems their.. My problem is with the people with the money to burn playin on every nations on the same server . makin the game shit for every1, thats not called espionage that called multiple personality disorder also called in the real word as schizophrenia.
You're talking to the wrong person. I had Spanish, French and Pirate toons on the same server, for reasons of diplomacy, curiosity and friendship. Like many others, I wanted to see how the other side lived, but did not want to leave our server's community. To this day, I see nothing wrong with that. What you seem to be saying, is that you want to go communist and not allow ANY player to own multiple accounts (even in the same nation), because it's not fair in your view. I find this a bit silly. Next thing you'll be saying that it's unfair how some people have more time to game than others, and that this gives them an unfair advantage over more casual players. All I can say to that is 'tough'. Linna |
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Originally posted by Linna
In beta and at launch, having accounts on all sides WAS allowed, quite specifically so, with argumentation by the devs WHY they chose to allow it. Then they changed policy after 7 or so months, and suddenly made it forbidden (mostly because some new mechanics the devs added made exploiting easier if you owned accounts in multiple factions). Then they changed course again. As to it being bad for a game with an RvR concept, again I have to disagree. Forbidding xrealming will not stop espionage. It never has, it never will. To paraphrase FLS: there is nothing that can stop two roommates or siblings from having accounts on different sides and passing each other information. Two people who have access to the same ventrilo can do more damage than one person owning accounts in different nations. It's better to let it be a part of the game (games like SWG REQUIRED espionage in order to be able to take down enemy bases), so people can adjust their mindsets accordingly. I'd also like to point out that during my time in POTBS, the worst cases of nation griefing we witnessed was done by members of the British nation against their own side (sabotaging port battles, grinding up ports that put all the lower antilles in the red) and by members of the French nation against their own side (deliberately putting Cayo in the red by grinding up La Isabella and Havana). Linna Hi Linna, ty for yr point about this matter, too bad u didnt read the whole thing and maybe then u would've had better things to say:) Espionage is fine, yr example about roomies passin info is totally fine in by book, i also use to do it for the right price. As a rat based in MT we used to hit every town surrounding MT for the red zones for easy Pvp, so again i dont see a problem in that...as for ventrillo i used it to speak to my friends in multiple nations, for trading info etc so again no problems their.. My problem is with the people with the money to burn playin on every nations on the same server . makin the game shit for every1, thats not called espionage that called multiple personality disorder also called in the real word as schizophrenia.
You're talking to the wrong person. I had Spanish, French and Pirate toons on the same server, for reasons of diplomacy, curiosity and friendship. Like many others, I wanted to see how the other side lived, but did not want to leave our server's community. To this day, I see nothing wrong with that. What you seem to be saying, is that you want to go communist and not allow ANY player to own multiple accounts (even in the same nation), because it's not fair in your view. I find this a bit silly. Next thing you'll be saying that it's unfair how some people have more time to game than others, and that this gives them an unfair advantage over more casual players. All I can say to that is 'tough'. Linna
how funny finally some1 with multiple accounts playin on the same server trying to defend their poor playin style... like i said ive played on the same server with 2 rats( same nation 2 accounts), i dont xteam because its bad for the game... players like yourself likes to play by themself owning everything playin multiple nations on the same server lol oh lol... finally some1 coming out and addressing my point...in my books u are the reason Potbs will never make it as a good game because players like U are not good enough to play on 1 nation and ownin it.. you rather Xteam and make life hell for others... im glad u came on as u are the reason i will never allow a fail company as well as a self proclaim cheat to bully me online lol oh lol...i guess its yr money so spend it as u pls, or maybe in the heat of battle u will forget that you are fighting yrself... Potbs has multiple servers Y not play on each server with 1 or 2 toons or accounts IN JUST 1 Nation only... i guess u cant handle that cause u aint as good as u think u r..lol... rather Xteam mess with people Bully them lie etc...Y not, its only an online game it aint like they will ever know me in RL lalallalal.... poor form buddy... and keep on playin the way you do , as u r the king the boss. U can Pwn me anytime with yr multiple accounts...
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