I played it,beat the skeleton king..

then went back to play Fallout 3 lol.

The first Diablo was magic,every version after it is just Ehh

They highly 'easy moded' Diablo 3.....and no,I dont want to play through it to unlock the difficulty just so I can play through it again.

60$ waste

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 The fourth time you run it you don't have to complete any quests. Once you've completed inferno you can jump to whatever part you want at any difficulty level. The story quests arent all the quests though. You can skip all the events and side dungeons and run straght for the endings. That's how people have manged to finish the game in a matter of hours.

You're complaining because the game has more  content? Seriously?

Would not that be the fifth time? :)

So you say that after i eventually finish inferno, i wont have to drag along any npcs, wait for their blabber to finish, skip cutscenes and so on, nice to know :)

/sarcasm off

Im not complaining there is more content (which we can argue about, since "side quests" are mostly events similar to a monster shrine or evil urn, and they kinda killed the whole "clean the whole dungeon for drops" thing with the focus on rares), im complaining the game (quests, npcs) are constantly in my face, which they werent in d2, and that made the experience more pleasant for me (especially the leveling of "alts"), contrary to your claim that "it is the same".

Flame on!

:)

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 The fourth time you run it you don't have to complete any quests. Once you've completed inferno you can jump to whatever part you want at any difficulty level. The story quests arent all the quests though. You can skip all the events and side dungeons and run straght for the endings. That's how people have manged to finish the game in a matter of hours.

You're complaining because the game has more  content? Seriously?

Would not that be the fifth time? :)

So you say that after i eventually finish inferno, i wont have to drag along any npcs, wait for their blabber to finish, skip cutscenes and so on, nice to know :)

/sarcasm off

Im not complaining there is more content (which we can argue about, since "side quests" are mostly events similar to a monster shrine or evil urn, and they kinda killed the whole "clean the whole dungeon for drops" thing with the focus on rares), im complaining the game (quests, npcs) are constantly in my face, which they werent in d2, and that made the experience more pleasant for me (especially the leveling of "alts"), contrary to your claim that "it is the same".

Flame on!

:)

 You can spacebar the NPC dialog. I still clean the whole dungeon for drops.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 The fourth time you run it you don't have to complete any quests. Once you've completed inferno you can jump to whatever part you want at any difficulty level. The story quests arent all the quests though. You can skip all the events and side dungeons and run straght for the endings. That's how people have manged to finish the game in a matter of hours.

You're complaining because the game has more  content? Seriously?

Would not that be the fifth time? :)

So you say that after i eventually finish inferno, i wont have to drag along any npcs, wait for their blabber to finish, skip cutscenes and so on, nice to know :)

/sarcasm off

Im not complaining there is more content (which we can argue about, since "side quests" are mostly events similar to a monster shrine or evil urn, and they kinda killed the whole "clean the whole dungeon for drops" thing with the focus on rares), im complaining the game (quests, npcs) are constantly in my face, which they werent in d2, and that made the experience more pleasant for me (especially the leveling of "alts"), contrary to your claim that "it is the same".

Flame on!

:)

 You can spacebar the NPC dialog. I still clean the whole dungeon for drops.

Even if i would take it as a valid excuse, there is some dialog which cannot be skipped, cause it has no boxes...

But yes, voice volume 0 and esc/spacebar spam is the way to go (HEAL ME!!! IM HEALED!!!! as if my eyes dont hurt enough from the all-red screen making visibility lower in a very dangerous situation...), because a "disable all lore" checkbox or teh game simply remembering what you have already heard (achievments maybe? :) ) would be OBVIOUSLY too much to ask :)

I clean the dungeons too, its a reflex, but looking at the official forums, chest and urn "nerfs", kinda makes me wonder who the fool is in here, if its not me...

In general, imo, the game wants to be a dungeon crawler, they say they wanted us to crawl, grind, whatever, and the combat is fun (outside soft-gcd and stuff like that, synchronization and mobs having all the advantages on their side), but at the same time they are poised to create the most annoying environment for dungeon crawling, i dont get it...

Flame on!

:)

No, it's not just you.

The game is fundamentally mediocre. If you compare it to D2 at its release, then it's horrid.

The standards of games nowadays is ridiculously high compared to back then. If you were to release diablo 2 now as it was then, then you would find just as much hate.

To further compound the ill feelings, they designed the end-game around the RMAH and future expansions, unlike D2 that had a nice continuous leveling/loot grind.

Look at the official forums. I can't remember the last time I saw so much hate around the release of a game, from its fans nonetheless.

The dwindling xfire numbers tell tales as well. It's just a trainwreck of a game and it's very sad to see the franchise end like this.

Greed has killed one of the best RPG franchises ever.. yet again .. Square Enix/Blizzardvision/EA ... 

I,m very disapointed by Diablo 3 right now.  Actually i'm the most disapointed by Blizzard and the way they are handling this game.   They are literally turning this into a PAY 2 WIN game.   There is NO WAY, i repeat NO WAY you gonna be able to do anything without having to spend REAL MONEY in their upcoming RMAH.   Let me explain that.

Why would a game company cares about what peoples do in their single players game ?  Why would a game company cares if you found a way to farm money or xp, it's a freaking singple player game.   Blizzard is actually nerfing every spot like that in the game.   Just go on youtube and see for yourself.   Peoples post videos of xp spot, money spot and a few days after they made the video, they find out it's been nerfed.

Why would a company do that ?   I could understand that kind of behavior in a MMO, to protect the economy,  but in a single player game ?   It's obvious, they dont want peoples to make money easily, instead they want them to BUY gold for CASH.

Originally posted by Kaynos1972

I,m very disapointed by Diablo 3 right now.  Actually i'm the most disapointed by Blizzard and the way they are handling this game.   They are literally turning this into a PAY 2 WIN game.   There is NO WAY, i repeat NO WAY you gonna be able to do anything without having to spend REAL MONEY in their upcoming RMAH.   Let me explain that.

Why would a game company cares about what peoples do in their single players game ?  Why would a game company cares if you found a way to farm money or xp, it's a freaking singple player game.   Blizzard is actually nerfing every spot like that in the game.   Just go on youtube and see for yourself.   Peoples post videos of xp spot, money spot and a few days after they made the video, they find out it's been nerfed.

Why would a company do that ?   I could understand that kind of behavior in a MMO, to protect the economy,  but in a single player game ?   It's obvious, they dont want peoples to make money easily, instead they want them to BUY gold for CASH.

Yes, that is obvious. They want profits from the RMAH! Anyhting that could potentially lead to people spending less money will get "fixed". What did you expect.. It makes no difference if some people that wants to find items and gold themselves and dont like the AH think the game is boring. Because if they quit it will not make any difference from a profit POV. They would not spend money anyway. The rest that continue playing the game will recognize that buying from the AH is the only reasonable way to get gear and improve your characters. This is the plan and business model. And is working as intended.

I admit the game is a disappointment.

It is still a "good" game, but D2 was a "great" game.

The problem arises when devs full of themselves try to reinvent the wheel. The wheel is good.  Don't try to make it egg shaped instead of round so you can brag that you made a new thing. Make the original thing better. Keep the good, toss the bad and add some excellent new ideas to enhance.

They didn't do this. The tossed major great things about the wheel and put in lame control freak substitutions erroneously thinking they did something good. D3 Devs = FAIL.

Originally posted by Hurvart

Originally posted by Kaynos1972

This is the plan and business model. And is working as intended.

For now. Long term, they could have made a hell of a lot more money if they had made a better game.

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Hurvart

Originally posted by Kaynos1972

This is the plan and business model. And is working as intended.

For now. Long term, they could have made a hell of a lot more money if they had made a better game.

Imagine someone that purchased a copy of Diablo 2 and played it for 10 years. That person would cost Blizzard a lot of money. He/she would not pay anything after buying the box. But Blizzard will have to maintain servers and keep the game running for 10 years.

Someone that buys D3, plays 6-12 months and sometimes use the RMAH will give them much more profit. People that are playing long term are not profitable if they are not paying.

Of course they would prefer if people played the game long term and payed them more money every day or every week. But if making a game that really lasts with great replay value means less profit they are not interested. If they believe they can earn more money the first year with a cash grab/P2W design compared to what they could earn in 10 years with a D2 type desing they will prefer that.

Of course the companies good name and reputation are also important. But the majority of mainstream consumers will not recognize they are less inteested in making the best possible game and more focused on short term profit. Some hardcore gamers with a passion for good games will certainly recognize it. But they are a minority. And I dont think the big corporations care at all really.

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Originally posted by Aryas
I don't want to start a flame war or any of that sh_t but I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of love this game is getting.

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I'm having fun with it. Not as much fun as I did with D2 but still finding it fun. Thats not to say that I have several issues with it. Luckily I'm enjoying a few classes. My barb is geared enough to complete a butcher farm run in about 10min and not skip any types of elites or rares. Yet as soon as I set foot in act2 I die to basic physical damage if somthing so much as sneezes on me. Its just bad design. To the 0.5% of players who are fine with skipping act2 or used OP skills to finish inferno good for you. Not how I want to play.

Anyway, like I said. I'm having fun even with all of the problems I have with the game. Its one you will either like or you wont. As to the OP. Its fine you dont like it. But dont compare it to MMO's. You said yourself you know they are two diffrent types of games and yet still compared them. Compare it to the likes of Torchlight 1 and 2 if you have played beta or Path of Exile.

Originally posted by Banquetto

 

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Originally posted by Aryas
I don't want to start a flame war or any of that sh_t but I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of love this game is getting.

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I'd be curious to know where you're seeing this overwhelming love?

 

This sites review score for the game for starters; that and a million rabid fanboys perhaps, lol!

I've thought hard about this and why even sitting here now I cannot be arsed to boot D3 up and I've come to the conclusion that:

MMOs are just so much better as a whole than this style of game (ARPG?); they have all the same elements, plus look and feel like they were coded in the 2000s, not the 1900s. THIS IS MY OPINION BTW (caps for emphasis)

D2 was such a good ARPG that I could overlook the fact that from a technical perspective, the game was quite basic - even years after it's release.  However, AND THIS IS THE BIGGIE, Diablo III just simply hasn't advanced the genre or the technical aspects of the game (e.g. graphics) enough that I can be bothered with it. For me, it felt 5 years out of date on the day of release!

I guess the best analogy is someone doing a fairly graphically enhanced version of a Mario game from the late 80s, but with less control options in some areas, more in others and the whole thing still rendered in 2D.

Anyway, I can see how someone might like this game and I'm a bit gutted that I can't, but for me it's just not doing it so not much more to say really.

Happy slaying,

Aryas

Not all games are for everyone.

Even if it is the same game or a sequel, your taste can change.

Tetris is an awesome game that I played a huge amount back in the day. I don't play Tetris anymore though.

This doesn't mean Tetris suddenly became 'bad', just means my taste changed.

Originally posted by Aryas

Did I hit my head real f_cuking hard recently or am I the only person out there that thinks this game is crap?

 

I don't want to start a flame war or any of that sh_t but I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of love this game is getting.

 

I'd actually call myself a Diablo 'fan-boy' to some extent and I was really stoked about this game but I find it so boring it hurts me to play it now - logged in about 10 times max since purchase.

 

Now some people are gonna go "well, if you don;t play it more you won't find out what's so good will you?". If I'm bored to death with it already there's lim chance of that TBH.

 

The MMOs I've had a go at in recent years have p_ssed all over this game for me. I know, I know they're different games, but shits shit, end of. I can honestly say that I would much rather play D&D, WAR, AoC and definitely RIFT over D3. As for GW2, that eats it alive and I've only spent a bit of time in the BWEs.

 

Please explain to me what the hell I am missing or is this just the video game equivalent of the average teen pop sensation, who's basically rough/mediocre but who the media hype machine portrays as the sexiest thing alive?

 

This game just screams 'king with no clothes' to me.

 

It's lost on me but I'm not mad about it or anything (it was only £25 at the end of the day), just massively confused by it's popularity.

 

Aryas

yea, you dont wanna start a flame war, suuuure, you'r just trollihng around with those matches eh?

i didnt actually see a single argument in your post, just you trolling around stating it is crtap - THAT kind sir, is what we call trolling.

Originally posted by Thane

Originally posted by Aryas

Did I hit my head real f_cuking hard recently or am I the only person out there that thinks this game is crap?

 

I don't want to start a flame war or any of that sh_t but I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of love this game is getting.

 

I'd actually call myself a Diablo 'fan-boy' to some extent and I was really stoked about this game but I find it so boring it hurts me to play it now - logged in about 10 times max since purchase.

 

Now some people are gonna go "well, if you don;t play it more you won't find out what's so good will you?". If I'm bored to death with it already there's lim chance of that TBH.

 

The MMOs I've had a go at in recent years have p_ssed all over this game for me. I know, I know they're different games, but shits shit, end of. I can honestly say that I would much rather play D&D, WAR, AoC and definitely RIFT over D3. As for GW2, that eats it alive and I've only spent a bit of time in the BWEs.

 

Please explain to me what the hell I am missing or is this just the video game equivalent of the average teen pop sensation, who's basically rough/mediocre but who the media hype machine portrays as the sexiest thing alive?

 

This game just screams 'king with no clothes' to me.

 

It's lost on me but I'm not mad about it or anything (it was only £25 at the end of the day), just massively confused by it's popularity.

 

Aryas

yea, you dont wanna start a flame war, suuuure, you'r just trollihng around with those matches eh?

 

i didnt actually see a single argument in your post, just you trolling around stating it is crtap - THAT kind sir, is what we call trolling.

Yet the whole first page agrees with him.

Perhaps there just are people that think D3 is an overblown, mediocre entry.

Originally posted by Thane

Originally posted by Aryas

Did I hit my head real f_cuking hard recently or am I the only person out there that thinks this game is crap?

 

I don't want to start a flame war or any of that sh_t but I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of love this game is getting.

 

I'd actually call myself a Diablo 'fan-boy' to some extent and I was really stoked about this game but I find it so boring it hurts me to play it now - logged in about 10 times max since purchase.

 

Now some people are gonna go "well, if you don;t play it more you won't find out what's so good will you?". If I'm bored to death with it already there's lim chance of that TBH.

 

The MMOs I've had a go at in recent years have p_ssed all over this game for me. I know, I know they're different games, but shits shit, end of. I can honestly say that I would much rather play D&D, WAR, AoC and definitely RIFT over D3. As for GW2, that eats it alive and I've only spent a bit of time in the BWEs.

 

Please explain to me what the hell I am missing or is this just the video game equivalent of the average teen pop sensation, who's basically rough/mediocre but who the media hype machine portrays as the sexiest thing alive?

 

This game just screams 'king with no clothes' to me.

 

It's lost on me but I'm not mad about it or anything (it was only £25 at the end of the day), just massively confused by it's popularity.

 

Aryas

yea, you dont wanna start a flame war, suuuure, you'r just trollihng around with those matches eh?

 

i didnt actually see a single argument in your post, just you trolling around stating it is crtap - THAT kind sir, is what we call trolling.

I'm expressing my thoughts, feelings and opinions.

Don't like it? Think I'm trolling? Too bad.

Originally posted by Aryas

Did I hit my head real f_cuking hard recently or am I the only person out there that thinks this game is crap?

 

I don't want to start a flame war or any of that sh_t but I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of love this game is getting.

 

I'd actually call myself a Diablo 'fan-boy' to some extent and I was really stoked about this game but I find it so boring it hurts me to play it now - logged in about 10 times max since purchase.

 

Now some people are gonna go "well, if you don;t play it more you won't find out what's so good will you?". If I'm bored to death with it already there's lim chance of that TBH.

 

The MMOs I've had a go at in recent years have p_ssed all over this game for me. I know, I know they're different games, but shits shit, end of. I can honestly say that I would much rather play D&D, WAR, AoC and definitely RIFT over D3. As for GW2, that eats it alive and I've only spent a bit of time in the BWEs.

 

Please explain to me what the hell I am missing or is this just the video game equivalent of the average teen pop sensation, who's basically rough/mediocre but who the media hype machine portrays as the sexiest thing alive?

 

This game just screams 'king with no clothes' to me.

 

It's lost on me but I'm not mad about it or anything (it was only £25 at the end of the day), just massively confused by it's popularity.

 

Aryas

Several points.

Diablo 3 is a single player ARPG with a coop mode, you can't compare it to mmos, that is just a completely different genre. That is like buying a puzzle game and complaining you don't get the same kind of kicks of adrenaline you get from playing some fps. 

Of course, "I'm not having fun" is a completely valid criticism, but you should be honest to yourself and decide whether it's you not enjoying the genre or the game being objectively bad. You claim to be a diablo fan boy, so you should have plenty of game time spent on Diablo:LoD to draw comparisons from. 

I consider myself an ARPG fan (have played everything there was since Diablo 2) and I don't personally find Diablo 3 all that enticing, mainly because I think the way the equipment/skill system is set up kills replayability. If it wasn't for that, the game would an undisputable genre king for me, just for the sheer amount of production value.

And to those saying ARPGs must be linear - just look at the Sacred series.

Originally posted by GTwander

Yet the whole first page agrees with him.

Perhaps there just are people that think D3 is an overblown, mediocre entry.

uh yea right, because the first page agrees with him he did not troll? did you read ANY of the posts on this site lately? we love to troll, dont we?

doesnt mean we need ANOTHER of those posts again, arent 9000 enough? does it always have to be over 9000?

i mean seriuously, get over it, you dont like it, fine. then why still bother? play something else, go on with your live, this wont be the last time someone releases a game that you guys wont like.

GET USED TO IT.

I never played the first and second Diablo, perhaps that has something to do with why I am enjoying the hell out of Diablo 3. I didn't have any expectations for the game, I wasn't anticipating it, it was completely off my radar until the open beta hit.

Once I got into it I was on board, pretty much all my buddies who played the first two games thought it was a big step back from Diablo 2, and stopped playing once they beat normal mode. There are some flaws with the game that are well known and I to have seen, the poor itemization from drops being my biggiest issue with it.

I can see where a lot of people are coming from in why they don't like it, but I haven't been able to stop playing since I bought it. Perhaps its because I dont know what I'm missing from the previous games enough for it to ruin the experience. I just reached hell hardcore last night with my witch doctor and I can't think of any game this year that I have been this hooked on since ME3.