If it don't have Hardcore it is for sissies.

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by dannydeuce

Originally posted by Zekiah

If anything, PoE looks more like D2 and D3 looks more like Torchlight.

So PoE looks like a game made in 2000?  Ouch.

None of their graphics are what they should be but I prefer PoE over D3, they're more polished and Diablo-esq.

Not saying much for the game if it's trying to imitate Diablo 2.  Haven't a ton of older ARPG's already done that?

I mean, I'm all for supporting the little guy but this D3 bashing is getting silly.

PoE from the looks of it, could do well as an android app, but for modern day computers, it is a step back and it's gameplay doesen't scream play me from the video's i watched, but it looks like a decent indie effort that some will enjoy.

While I only watched PoE vids, I did play D3 and I'm sold. D3 all the way for me.

Originally posted by expresso

Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by rubydragon5

Does Blizzard have DIablo 3 copyrights?

It just seems that path of exile is soo similar in terms of graphic style and gameplay to D3

How can they not get sued and shut down for this?

D3 world = Scooby doo cartoon style scary

POE = Awesome, gritty, dark.... well everything that you got from D1 and D2 but with a mdoern engine..

D3 World - Stylised, Unique, timeless look

POE - Generic, boring, no soul or charm, very little design effort.

You can instantly see a screen of D3 and know its D3, PoE looks like any old game.

^^Truth

POE doesn't look like D2, it looks like Titan Quest with bad art direction.  That doesn't mean it can't be a fun game, but it doesn't pass the first impression test for me.

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by rubydragon5

Does Blizzard have DIablo 3 copyrights?

It just seems that path of exile is soo similar in terms of graphic style and gameplay to D3

How can they not get sued and shut down for this?

D3 world = Scooby doo cartoon style scary

POE = Awesome, gritty, dark.... well everything that you got from D1 and D2 but with a mdoern engine..

POE = Awesome, gritty, dark....yea, if you like varying shades of grey and red. POE lacks any kind of compelling story whatsoever. Towns and npcs completely devoid of character, and the most boring gameplay...gee, yea, kill 15000 crabs....move to next zone...gee, get to kills those 15000 crabs again...oh wait, here's a boss....same crab only bigger!

But, hey if enough fools donate money to them (some have given them 1000 bucks!) it might get off the ground. Who knows, they might be able to redecorate the basement they work out of too

errr well i totally agree about the story side of things hopefully they will be able to expand on that as thats the only thing its lacking at the moment.

but

well you dont just fight the same mob over and and over all zones apart from maybe the one you start in have a mix of mobs to kill just like diablo 1,2 and 3 so not sure what your on about there unless of course you dont like the diablo series then im not sure why your posting here.

 

As for the guy who asked why i thought a body cut in half was not dark and gritty... the same reason i dont think scooby doo is dark and girrty.. tho saying that im sure i thought it was when i was 5.

 

Like i said before im not saying D3 is a bad game infact i really enjoyed playing it, but its not worth what they are asknig for it and I find POE more enjoyable and i donated $15 and thats it.. I also think POE graphics wise is 10x better and its hard to see why with the screenshots and videos its somthing you have to paly yourself... some of the lighting effects in the dungeons are great..

 

It really is very confusing.. in PoE i saw nothing remotely impressive about its graphic, detail, mechanics or even the gore as people put it.  

To say the graphics are better than D3 is just being ignorant. You may prefer the style but the graphics aren't from the same era. If you prefer the bland dated style of PoE then more power to ya, me personally in modern times i'll stick to modern games. I've played games from times past, I want something new not old.

Originally posted by Aori

It really is very confusing.. in PoE i saw nothing remotely impressive about its graphic, detail, mechanics or even the gore as people put it.  

To say the graphics are better than D3 is just being ignorant. You may prefer the style but the graphics aren't from the same era. If you prefer the bland dated style of PoE then more power to ya, me personally in modern times i'll stick to modern games. I've played games from times past, I want something new not old.

Some of you people must seriously be blind; either that or ad hominem is your thing.

I played both PoE and Diablo 3 beta

still got PoE beta access

let me get straight to the point

D3 is not what is all cracked up be the title using diablo logo and ofc blizzard to get its revenue moneyz

and terms of graphics

with out art style

PoE has a suppior engine peroid and is using lot better textures videos do not do any game justice most of these fanbois are blizzard fans and wont see past that

PoE has its downfalls at its current state beta

like not lot of content to do and lack of armor custimazion

but in core gameplay PoE wins its more ingageing and combat feels like savage warrior very brutal

D3 is like WoW art style and wont be that good

and people saying looks 2000s graphics lawl no

truth is D3 engine is older then PoE engine

 

Well, there really isn't going to be much progress in a debate over which of you prefers PoE or D3 graphics over the other. It's just preference. They are obviously both very comparable from an objective sense, and one doesn't just become 'better' than the other without throwing in personal bias.

 

Aside from that though, I plan on buying D3. I played the beta last weekend and had a ton more fun than I expected. I loved the whole package. Not just the graphics, or character design, or whatever else. It was just fun, plain and simple.

 

I haven't played PoE yet but I'm downloading it now and will be playing either tonight or over the weekend. The biggest problem I see however is the fact that it is going to remain in closed beta for who knows how long, it will have big changes as the developer sees fit, and to top it off they tell you in the beta invite that they can and will wipe all character data from time to time as needed. So I will buy D3 and enjoy the fact that I am not going to lose all progress whenever they feel like. I'm glad PoE is free so I can't complain, but there will be times when I'm going to want an ARPG where my progress is saved.

 

There's also a huge difference in the skill trees as some have debated already, but that seems to be just going back to bias opinion as to which one is 'better'. I don't care for PoE's ridiculously huge grid of neverending choices. I like D3's choice of a few different skills per slot.

 

So all-in-all, at least at this point, I'm a D3 fan that hasn't played PoE. I'll give it the same amount of time that I gave D3 last weekend and be able to come back here with more of an opinion on it.

So I spent two days with it now and PoE is pretty fun. I like the graphics in both PoE and D3. I think they both have their strengths & weaknesses. They just focus the effects on different details. I like the lighting, shadows, and action effects a lot better in D3, but PoE almost feels like an HD upgrade in terms of the environment detail. PoE could really benefit from more variety in monster-types at the beginning though (Enough with the zombies!). All that aside, I think I can easily play both and enjoy them both based on each one's strengths.

 

PoE is free so it's the easier one to play first if you don't want to spend $60 on D3, but the latter also feels a lot more polished and more developed to me. Obviously, it should feel that way based on the development time and release window, while PoE is under development and can easily be on the same level of polish as D3 by the time it releases.

 

So I have my answer. Gonna play PoE until D3 releases, then just play whichever one I feel like thereafter. It's a good time to be an ARPG fan. I think I'll also pick up Titan Quest whenever it goes on sale on steam again. That held up really well for it's age and I'm glad I didn't miss it entirely. It's a good alternative when I get tired of the theme in PoE & D3.

Originally posted by FrodoFragins
POE doesn't look like D2, it looks like Titan Quest with bad art direction.  That doesn't mean it can't be a fun game, but it doesn't pass the first impression test for me.

The inventory and the inventory items is a clear cut and paste from D2. The combat itself looks exactly the same as it did in D2. The only difference between D2 and PoE is updated graphics minus the UI

Torchlight 2 looks exactly like WoW if it were isometric style game

Diablo 3 is neither dark nor gritty but it looks a helluva lot better than the two above

Originally posted by Starpower

 Diablo 3 is neither dark nor gritty but it looks a helluva lot better than the two above

 

 

I never could get in to Torchlight 1 though. It just looked too silly, so I kinda expected Torchlight 2 would continue the trend.

played poe for three months, d3 for one weeked:

 

PoE is a thinking man's game. D3 is a hand-holding regression of the genre.

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by FrodoFragins
POE doesn't look like D2, it looks like Titan Quest with bad art direction.  That doesn't mean it can't be a fun game, but it doesn't pass the first impression test for me.

The inventory and the inventory items is a clear cut and paste from D2. The combat itself looks exactly the same as it did in D2. The only difference between D2 and PoE is updated graphics minus the UI

Torchlight 2 looks exactly like WoW if it were isometric style game

Diablo 3 is neither dark nor gritty but it looks a helluva lot better than the two above

I was talking about the graphics, including combat.  Titan Quest has equal graphics with a better artistic flare and the engine was made for 2006 release.  POE is a step down from that engine and miles behind D3.  It is artistically devoid of anything interesting.

 

This topic has nothing to do with TL.

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by Starpower

 The only difference between D2 and PoE is updated graphics minus the UI

 

Ok, that's just ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kucFP3wN3Eo

I see no difference. Characters are better drawn and animated so are the mobs. The game is of a higher resolution vs a game that is over 10 years old and can only run in 1200x800 but it's basically the same game. two balls representing mana and health, the potions, the inventory not just the design but down to the very looks of it. It's not only similar in a "this is a arpg inventory thingy" it's a copy paste. Same goes for the combat and the loot

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by Starpower

 The only difference between D2 and PoE is updated graphics minus the UI

 

Ok, that's just ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kucFP3wN3Eo

I see no difference. Characters are better drawn and animated so are the mobs. The game is of a higher resolution vs a game that is over 10 years old and can only run in 1200x800 but it's basically the same game. two balls representing mana and health, the potions, the inventory not just the design but down to the very looks of it. It's not only similar in a "this is a arpg inventory thingy" it's a copy paste. Same goes for the combat and the loot

 

I said it's ridiculous because it clearly has different developers, different timing, different gear, different sound, different classes, etc. etc. Updated graphics are CLEARLY not the only difference. Bad wording on your part.

 

Edit: And I changed my reply because you clarified it a little better, even though the statement on it's own is still wrong on so many levels.

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by Starpower

 The only difference between D2 and PoE is updated graphics minus the UI

 

Ok, that's just ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kucFP3wN3Eo

I see no difference. Characters are better drawn and animated so are the mobs. The game is of a higher resolution vs a game that is over 10 years old and can only run in 1200x800 but it's basically the same game. two balls representing mana and health, the potions, the inventory not just the design but down to the very looks of it. It's not only similar in a "this is a arpg inventory thingy" it's a copy paste. Same goes for the combat and the loot

 

I said it's ridiculous because it clearly has different developers, different timing, different gear, different sound, different classes, etc. etc. Updated graphics are CLEARLY not the only difference. Bad wording on your part.

Doesn't matter they clearly not just made similar systems but did their best to almost copy paste it all straight from D2. That's fine. If somebody just wants a D2 with a graphics overhaul I'm sure PoE will do nicely

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by Starpower

 The only difference between D2 and PoE is updated graphics minus the UI

 

Ok, that's just ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kucFP3wN3Eo

I see no difference. Characters are better drawn and animated so are the mobs. The game is of a higher resolution vs a game that is over 10 years old and can only run in 1200x800 but it's basically the same game. two balls representing mana and health, the potions, the inventory not just the design but down to the very looks of it. It's not only similar in a "this is a arpg inventory thingy" it's a copy paste. Same goes for the combat and the loot

 

I said it's ridiculous because it clearly has different developers, different timing, different gear, different sound, different classes, etc. etc. Updated graphics are CLEARLY not the only difference. Bad wording on your part.

Doesn't matter they clearly not just made similar systems but did their best to almost copy paste it all straight from D2. That's fine. If somebody just wants a D2 with a graphics overhaul I'm sure PoE will do nicely

 

Yeah, it does matter, A LOT. It's a different world, different mobs, different classes that defines every action and direction you take with your character, different story, different towns, different progression in a dozen ways. I could go on for a really long time. You're just saying 'it looks alike' so it must be a copy and paste. I don't think so. If you played D3 and want something more, you can easily go to PoE and find something similar but with a lot of differences that establish PoE as a new and different experience.