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  Lawlmonster

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6/01/12 10:46:13 PM#21
Originally posted by Souldrainer
Originally posted by loeslein

What?

When my wizard uses one of her abilities, ememies are diced into 5 pieces and their limbs and heads go flying all over.

When my monk does a strong punch he literely punches the skin off the enemy and a bloody skeleton goes flying off the screen.

Right before you kill the butcher there's torturing devices where a fat corpse gets grinded up in a wheel and there's buckets of heads that you can hit that cause little heads to go flying all over the place.

In the beginning of act 2 there's dozens of impaled bodies all over the screen and in general THERE'S DEAD BLOODY CORPSES ALL OVER THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.

 

 

Go watch some snuff films or something man cause you seem to need a bigger fix.

 

Either that or quit playing gogogogogogo Inferno 16 hours a day and slow down to look at the screen for a few minutes.

 

 

You grossly exaggerate the level of blood and gore in the game. Body parts occasionally do fall to the ground, with a tiny splat of blood and minimal details. Additionally, Maghda doesn't even fit thr game. Expectation: Game of Thrones. Reality: Power Rangers. Like I said, it's supposed to be horror ala the Doom series. Lord of Terror? My ass!

What? Are you even looking at the environments as you pass through them? The poster you responded to actually listed things of which I can verify, every single one of them, with screen shots.

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  Souldrainer

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6/01/12 10:52:09 PM#22
Originally posted by Lawlmonster
Originally posted by Souldrainer
Originally posted by loeslein

What?

When my wizard uses one of her abilities, ememies are diced into 5 pieces and their limbs and heads go flying all over.

When my monk does a strong punch he literely punches the skin off the enemy and a bloody skeleton goes flying off the screen.

Right before you kill the butcher there's torturing devices where a fat corpse gets grinded up in a wheel and there's buckets of heads that you can hit that cause little heads to go flying all over the place.

In the beginning of act 2 there's dozens of impaled bodies all over the screen and in general THERE'S DEAD BLOODY CORPSES ALL OVER THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.

 

 

Go watch some snuff films or something man cause you seem to need a bigger fix.

 

Either that or quit playing gogogogogogo Inferno 16 hours a day and slow down to look at the screen for a few minutes.

 

 

You grossly exaggerate the level of blood and gore in the game. Body parts occasionally do fall to the ground, with a tiny splat of blood and minimal details. Additionally, Maghda doesn't even fit thr game. Expectation: Game of Thrones. Reality: Power Rangers. Like I said, it's supposed to be horror ala the Doom series. Lord of Terror? My ass!

What? Are you even looking at the environments as you pass through them? The poster you responded to actually listed things of which I can verify, every single one of them, with screen shots.

 

You mean the Scooby Doo environments? Sorry, but a kid's cartoon does not scare me... I mean, zoinks, dude...

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  Rednecksith

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6/01/12 11:02:09 PM#23

You're kidding, right? Sometimes when my barbarian kills people, they are hit so hard that all the flesh blasts off, leaving a large bloody smear on the ground and sending the skeleton flying. There are dead bodies all over the place, decapitations galore, large enemies which either explode, fall apart, or both when killed, bloated corpses which burst (with a really nasty sound effect) when clicked, somewhat graphic depictions of torture and torture devices, bodies cut up and hanging from hooks or pinned to walls, succubi with their tits hanging out, and more gushing blood than a group of emo haemophiliacs.

In short, what the fuck else do you want man?!? Hardcore daemon on angel action? I'm sure there's a hentai out there for ya, but Blizzard isn't that kind of company.

If this isn't violent enough for you, then you've got some issues.

Edit: This game is far, FAR bloodier than D1. I think you need your eyes checked.

  Painlezz

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6/01/12 11:14:58 PM#24
Originally posted by Souldrainer
 

 

If you can show me a version of diablo 3 with severed heads constantly on screen, I'd buy it.  Since even the few guillotines the game has are turned away from players, I doubt you can find one.  The game does have a few splats of blood, but considering how utterly juvenile the story is, I think it's safe to say that those aren't enough to warrant an M-rating.

"My" version of Diablo 3 has heads and blood everywhere...

 

Whimshire (spelling) lets you kill unicorns and carebears... And blood splatters all of the place.  Bear heads pop off and go flying multiple screens away often...

  dubyahite

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6/01/12 11:39:44 PM#25
The monk ability that places a dot on mobs and causes them to explode with the rune that causes it to be fire that spreads to other mobs and causes them to explode is pretty m rated.

They freaking spray blood everywhere and leave a huge splatter of blood on the ground in place of their body. Then it spreads and all sorts of demons and crap exploding are all over the place.


Couple that with the unicorns and Teddy bears in the secret level and you have a pretty disturbing sight.

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  Gravarg

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6/01/12 11:43:47 PM#26

It's not the worst game I've ever played, but it still deserves an M rating just for the lore behind it, and some of the mobs do die pretty gruesome deaths.

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  TheHavok

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6/01/12 11:52:08 PM#27
Originally posted by Souldrainer

The "gore" people are talking about is not very impressive to me.

 

Well i'm sorry if the "gore" wasn't impressive to you, but why don't you take your thumb out of your ass and realize its still gore. 

  Jaylanonyous

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6/02/12 12:03:42 AM#28

Meh the game has its gore but its not horror, scary gore. When i was younger D1 Scared me. D2 was fun and some parts I hesitated because a boss came running out randomly. D3 feels like a top down WoW.  It has its blood but thats it. Not even trying to be scary.

  Lawlmonster

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6/02/12 5:45:58 AM#29
Originally posted by Souldrainer
Originally posted by Lawlmonster
Originally posted by Souldrainer
Originally posted by loeslein

What?

When my wizard uses one of her abilities, ememies are diced into 5 pieces and their limbs and heads go flying all over.

When my monk does a strong punch he literely punches the skin off the enemy and a bloody skeleton goes flying off the screen.

Right before you kill the butcher there's torturing devices where a fat corpse gets grinded up in a wheel and there's buckets of heads that you can hit that cause little heads to go flying all over the place.

In the beginning of act 2 there's dozens of impaled bodies all over the screen and in general THERE'S DEAD BLOODY CORPSES ALL OVER THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.

 

 

Go watch some snuff films or something man cause you seem to need a bigger fix.

 

Either that or quit playing gogogogogogo Inferno 16 hours a day and slow down to look at the screen for a few minutes.

 

 

You grossly exaggerate the level of blood and gore in the game. Body parts occasionally do fall to the ground, with a tiny splat of blood and minimal details. Additionally, Maghda doesn't even fit thr game. Expectation: Game of Thrones. Reality: Power Rangers. Like I said, it's supposed to be horror ala the Doom series. Lord of Terror? My ass!

What? Are you even looking at the environments as you pass through them? The poster you responded to actually listed things of which I can verify, every single one of them, with screen shots.

 

You mean the Scooby Doo environments? Sorry, but a kid's cartoon does not scare me... I mean, zoinks, dude...

Who said anything about being scared? The poster that you responded to mentioned a list of gore related actions or animations that exist within the game. They're verifiable, they exist, they're why the game received a mature rating. It doesn't matter if you find it scary, because that wasn't even being discusssed.

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  headen

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6/02/12 5:54:05 AM#30


Originally posted by Souldrainer
The "gore" people are talking about is not very impressive to me.  Maybe if I hadn't played God of War or Manhunt, it would be impressive.  Moreover, the 2008 alpha footage was FAR more impressive, where body parts flew into the air instead of going across the ground, and with death animations which were removed out of sheer laziness.

 

***Possible Spoilers***

Moreover, the most annoying part is that the story is not mature, at all.  Characters like Magda should go back to Power Rangers, or wherever they came from.  Every time we kill the Butcher, we are reminded that this is now geared toward's that audience, not the core fans of Diablo.  It was so bad, that I didn't even buy the death of Deckard Kain.  When he died, I remembered thinking that there was alpha story content which we saw in 2008, and he'd be back for it.  I also felt detached, as if they somehow got the character wrong and didn't portray him correctly this time around.  This is a character I had known for 16 years, and when he died, I felt like "meh."  Now, when Dom Santiago died, I cried.  That was an emotional investment. Nevermind that Tyreal went from being a major badass to being a whiny idiot. D3 just does not have an emotionally investing, mature story.

I guess it's as much of a thing of dropped mature content/features as it is about the rating itself.  But I digress, these two videos are far more mature than all of the M-rated content in Diablo 3 put together:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwUAv-SSZqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYAaGKOhzI

 

 


Originally posted by Merdur You also have to understand that the plotline is about "hell", the esrb is most likely full of religous nuts and this is why it would get an M rating. Sadly, you are probably correct.

 

 


Originally posted by Irus I'm very happy it doesn't fit "top 5 most violent games". I would probably stay the fuck away if it did.
If you would rather see a company change an IP than use violence, then you are part of the problem. Diablo is supposed to have mature content, anti-religion themes, horrror, and gore. It's part of the series. Err, it was for the first two games, anyway.

 

  Originally posted by kiern There are a few blood smears here and there, but not that much. Most of the dead bodies you come across could just as easily be sleeping bodies. No blood or other signs of violence, though there are a few, minor exceptions. Compared to Diablo 1, this seems pretty mild. In that game there were naked, mutilated boddies all over the place, and the Butcher's chambers was completely covered in blood from floor to ceiling. You knew why he was called the Butcher. In D3, the Butcher's chamber is a nearly pristine room with fire instead of blood. It does seem pretty mild in comparison.


Exactly. The Butcher is about the best example. See, Doom 3 was a proper example of a sequel.  Doom 1 scared people and had hellish themes.  Doom 3 did too. We should be SCARED of Diablo on the first go around... not "There's the crook, let's get him."  This was supposed to be a horror game!

 


I'll gladly take a warning for this.

You are an idiot.

  neorandom

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6/02/12 6:02:29 AM#31
Originally posted by zymurgeist

I think the severed heads flying across the screen constantly pretty much clenched it an M rating. It's a better reason than tits anyway.

my monk causes a gruesome fatality with every punch.  if the head doesnt fly off, the entire skeleton is kicked out of the meat bag, and catchs fire, or he electrocutes them raiden style with his thundering fists zapping moves, and 7 sided strikes makes a cloud of red mist out of entire hordes of things.

 

so ya, its a gorey game, M is not an innapropriate rating for the level of violence in this one.

  VicodinTaco

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6/02/12 8:53:53 AM#32

yeah i figured out we're just being trolled by a necrophiliac.

 

 

  Wickedjelly

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6/02/12 9:22:34 AM#33
Originally posted by loeslein

yeah i figured out we're just being trolled by a necrophiliac.

 

 

 Just because he's baiting people over this topic doesn't mean he wants a skull fuck ability in the game.

:P

 

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Souldrainer

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6/04/12 8:01:07 AM#34
Originally posted by headen

 


Originally posted by Souldrainer
The "gore" people are talking about is not very impressive to me.  Maybe if I hadn't played God of War or Manhunt, it would be impressive.  Moreover, the 2008 alpha footage was FAR more impressive, where body parts flew into the air instead of going across the ground, and with death animations which were removed out of sheer laziness.

 

 

***Possible Spoilers***

Moreover, the most annoying part is that the story is not mature, at all.  Characters like Magda should go back to Power Rangers, or wherever they came from.  Every time we kill the Butcher, we are reminded that this is now geared toward's that audience, not the core fans of Diablo.  It was so bad, that I didn't even buy the death of Deckard Kain.  When he died, I remembered thinking that there was alpha story content which we saw in 2008, and he'd be back for it.  I also felt detached, as if they somehow got the character wrong and didn't portray him correctly this time around.  This is a character I had known for 16 years, and when he died, I felt like "meh."  Now, when Dom Santiago died, I cried.  That was an emotional investment. Nevermind that Tyreal went from being a major badass to being a whiny idiot. D3 just does not have an emotionally investing, mature story.

I guess it's as much of a thing of dropped mature content/features as it is about the rating itself.  But I digress, these two videos are far more mature than all of the M-rated content in Diablo 3 put together:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwUAv-SSZqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYAaGKOhzI

 

 


Originally posted by Merdur You also have to understand that the plotline is about "hell", the esrb is most likely full of religous nuts and this is why it would get an M rating. Sadly, you are probably correct.

 

 

 


Originally posted by Irus I'm very happy it doesn't fit "top 5 most violent games". I would probably stay the fuck away if it did.
If you would rather see a company change an IP than use violence, then you are part of the problem. Diablo is supposed to have mature content, anti-religion themes, horrror, and gore. It's part of the series. Err, it was for the first two games, anyway.

 

 

  Originally posted by kiern There are a few blood smears here and there, but not that much. Most of the dead bodies you come across could just as easily be sleeping bodies. No blood or other signs of violence, though there are a few, minor exceptions. Compared to Diablo 1, this seems pretty mild. In that game there were naked, mutilated boddies all over the place, and the Butcher's chambers was completely covered in blood from floor to ceiling. You knew why he was called the Butcher. In D3, the Butcher's chamber is a nearly pristine room with fire instead of blood. It does seem pretty mild in comparison.


Exactly. The Butcher is about the best example. See, Doom 3 was a proper example of a sequel.  Doom 1 scared people and had hellish themes.  Doom 3 did too. We should be SCARED of Diablo on the first go around... not "There's the crook, let's get him."  This was supposed to be a horror game!

 

 

 


 

I'll gladly take a warning for this.

You are an idiot.

I think the general lack of reasoning in your post is self-defeating anyway.

 

So, there are people here who think you should assault the legions of Hell and confront the Lord of Terror, and the game should not be scary?  If John Carmack thought that way in the 1990s, the FPS genre might not exist today.  If Bill Roper had thought that way in 1996, Diablo 1 woudln't exist.

Diablo 1 was fucking scary for its time.  As pointed out, the Butcher's chamber was a room full of blood and naked, impaled bodies from floor to ceiling, some of them in severe disrepair.  Diablo 3?  Butcher's chamber is a pristine BBQ grill with an idiot Power Rangers villain talking over him.  It's childish, not hellish.

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  Wickedjelly

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6/04/12 8:09:45 AM#35
Originally posted by Souldrainer

I think the general lack of reasoning in your post is self-defeating anyway.

 

So, there are people here who think you should assault the legions of Hell and confront the Lord of Terror, and the game should not be scary?  If John Carmack thought that way in the 1990s, the FPS genre might not exist today.  If Bill Roper had thought that way in 1996, Diablo 1 woudln't exist.

Diablo 1 was fucking scary for its time.  As pointed out, the Butcher's chamber was a room full of blood and naked, impaled bodies from floor to ceiling, some of them in severe disrepair.  Diablo 3?  Butcher's chamber is a pristine BBQ grill with an idiot Power Rangers villain talking over him.  It's childish, not hellish.

 What? No it wasn't. Nothing at any point in this series has been remotely scary. Where do you guys get this from? It's like the ones that act like this series had some stellar story line before D3 and then balk over this one.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  User Deleted
6/04/12 9:51:04 AM#36

Theres a lot of greusom animations....i dont see what the complaint was here...perhaps the OP's parents wont let him buy a game rated M...and if thats the case +1 to the parents.

 

Aside from the blood and nasty stuff...theres bloated corpses you can "explode" for loot...and anyone whos spent the time in the torture chambers levels can vouch...theres some nasty stuff in the game.

I mean i destroyed some kind of torture device with two spiked rollers on the bottom...there was still a corps (well half of one) on the machine...i ended up knocking off the first two leggs making it a ramp that the half corpse rolld down into the two spike rollers with a big spash of blood as it went through....and this was a non-essential ground object.  Theres so hardcore material in the game...its just not every single dungeon is like that...though they all have lootable dead bodies and demon gore...

 

I dunno i think the game is fine with the level of gore thats in it...not sure why people need more to be happy..unless they are mentally sick.

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6/04/12 10:20:45 AM#37

What about those buildings in Act 2 with demonic shrines where the centerpiece is some big demon torso that's been nicely opened up?

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  Zaltark

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6/04/12 10:37:09 AM#38

The game has nude succubi. I guess that deserves an M.

  zymurgeist

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6/04/12 2:23:45 PM#39
Originally posted by Souldrainer

I think the general lack of reasoning in your post is self-defeating anyway.

 

So, there are people here who think you should assault the legions of Hell and confront the Lord of Terror, and the game should not be scary?  If John Carmack thought that way in the 1990s, the FPS genre might not exist today.  If Bill Roper had thought that way in 1996, Diablo 1 woudln't exist.

Diablo 1 was fucking scary for its time.  As pointed out, the Butcher's chamber was a room full of blood and naked, impaled bodies from floor to ceiling, some of them in severe disrepair.  Diablo 3?  Butcher's chamber is a pristine BBQ grill with an idiot Power Rangers villain talking over him.  It's childish, not hellish.

 You think this is hellish? Go on pull the other one.

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  VicodinTaco

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6/04/12 2:36:17 PM#40
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by loeslein

yeah i figured out we're just being trolled by a necrophiliac.

 

 

 Just because he's baiting people over this topic doesn't mean he wants a skull fuck ability in the game.

:P

 

Actually I think he kinda does.  He's mentioned in a few posts that this game doesn't have any naked mutilated bodies like D1.

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