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Originally posted by Zekiah
I see, so those who agree with me are haters and irrational. Got it.

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What precisely is console friendly about D3 that wasn't the case for D2?

What precisely was so dark, gory and not-for-kids in D2 that is not present in D3?

Originally posted by ArEf

So, I recently got into the Diablo 3 EU beta and wow. Seriously, wow. This game is BAD. I'm shocked it managed to get past even the new Blizzard's QA team.

I'm getting 200ms ping and having that registered as "good" (ie. in the green in terms of latency) by the game, with random 500ms lagspikes. It's entirely possible that the EU beta's servers are set up in the US, but I get at least 160ms from US servers in every other game, and god only knows. This leads to a shit tonne of artificial difficulty and near death experiences.

The CoD-esque levelling mechanics are laughable, as are the ways abilities work. Every level, you get a new ability or a new upgrade for one of your abilities, and you will ALWAYS have every ability at max level. You have no choice in what order you get them. The only thing that distinguises you from other players is gear.

Switching out abilities gives you a 10 second (or thereabouts, not sure on the exact figure) cooldown on that ability, which means switching out abilities or having more than six active abilities is unfeasible, which can lead to situations where you get attacked and don't have the right ability for the situation.

All this just feeds into having the easiest general loadout and spamming the attack until everything is dead, regardless of the situation. You approach everything in the same way, deal with it in the same way and the like. You won't vary from other player's experiences either, as they're ALSO doing it in the same way.

Don't get me started on how horribly the classes are in general. They're not archetypal, they're not very balanced (heavy armoured barbarian / monk more easily kills stuff than the flimsy wizard?) and they're just not very fun. Witch Doctor is a bad necromancer clone, Demon Hunter is like a crappy D2 assassin, Wizard is just a poor man's sorceress, Monk is actually alright in terms of overall design and Barbarian is just a straight rip from D2 and therefore the best class in the game.

The healing potion / healing orb issue just shows how schizophrenic the design team is. On the one hand, you have healing potions which allow you to decide when you need healing and use them when you need them. On the other hand, you have healing orbs which drop randomly off mobs and heal you when you walk over them. Of course, due to this, healing orbs are utterly useless, or at least could be better replaced by healing potion drops, and is a fine example of "lol wut are we meant to be doing again???".

Graphically, the game is horrible. It reminds me of Icewind Dale 2 in terms of looks. You could say it has a certain style to it, if you thought style could mean "looks like it's from early 21st century". Low polygon models, ugly arse textures and a general bad colour scheme just makes the game seem faded and already aged. Compare it with, say, Diablo or Diablo 2 in modern resolutions and they don't look nearly as aged as this game.

Controls-wise, the game's okay-ish. Everything's pretty much the same as Diablo 2 (shift to stay still whilst you attack, ctrl to view thingies, alt to view items etc), and everything is therefore okay.

I just fail to see how this is a Diablo game. To me, it feels like a poor Korean Diablo-wannabe that made a bunch of bad design decisions because they had a massive budget, a lot of time and no idea how to improve on the original.

The graphical changes, gameplay changes, EVERYTHING changes have just ruined the overall experience and turned it into a game worthy of nothing more than the award of "Worst AAA Game of 2012".

this is funny b/c everything you state is probably your own faults.

lag, bad graphics, etc....

i just skimmed the post but i can tell you probably have a shitty pc and are expecting the best of the game which you wont get unless you have a decent pc.

and dont forget your playing it in beta moron.

P.S. ya go play PoE b/c its a complete rip off of diablo 2.

Originally posted by Banquetto

 

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Originally posted by Zekiah
I see, so those who agree with me are haters and irrational. Got it.

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Well, we're still yet to hear any rational criticism from you. Just regurgitating stock phrases.. "kiddies!" "console friendly!".. and complete untruths like "not dark or gory".

 

What precisely is console friendly about D3 that wasn't the case for D2?

What precisely was so dark, gory and not-for-kids in D2 that is not present in D3?

I take it you haven't played the game yet.

You'll find out when you see the hacked up UI they implemented and the graphics.

Don't hate. No need to get upset, it's just a game, we can all agree to disagree.

Originally posted by Betaguy
Perma Death need I say more.... go play GW2 imo as D3 is not for you...

Totally agree. Diablo series has real challenge and keeps me on the edge. It is the driving force to keep me playing.

Originally posted by ArEf

So, I recently got into the Diablo 3 EU beta and wow. Seriously, wow. This game is BAD. I'm shocked it managed to get past even the new Blizzard's QA team.

I'm getting 200ms ping and having that registered as "good" (ie. in the green in terms of latency) by the game, with random 500ms lagspikes. It's entirely possible that the EU beta's servers are set up in the US, but I get at least 160ms from US servers in every other game, and god only knows. This leads to a shit tonne of artificial difficulty and near death experiences.

The beta servers are in the US. Comparing it to other games on US servers is stupid. Routing is handled differently per game and if you are european, this is not an issue once the game launches.

The CoD-esque levelling mechanics are laughable, as are the ways abilities work. Every level, you get a new ability or a new upgrade for one of your abilities, and you will ALWAYS have every ability at max level. You have no choice in what order you get them. The only thing that distinguises you from other players is gear.

At higher levels, you will unlock more things per level, as to allow you to try out different builds sooner. Players will differentiate themselves by using different builds and there are quite a few viable to use.

Switching out abilities gives you a 10 second (or thereabouts, not sure on the exact figure) cooldown on that ability, which means switching out abilities or having more than six active abilities is unfeasible, which can lead to situations where you get attacked and don't have the right ability for the situation.

The cooldown, as in the latest patch, is 5 seconds. And youre not supposed to be able to just switch an entire build on the fly. That would make it far too easy, which also seems your main complaint?

All this just feeds into having the easiest general loadout and spamming the attack until everything is dead, regardless of the situation. You approach everything in the same way, deal with it in the same way and the like. You won't vary from other player's experiences either, as they're ALSO doing it in the same way.

This is remedied at the higher difficulty levels. You would do yourself (and us) a favour by checking the blizzcon videos that explain this perfectly. Normal difficulty is easy. Champion mobs dont have many abilities to use and monster awareness is very low.

Don't get me started on how horribly the classes are in general. They're not archetypal, they're not very balanced (heavy armoured barbarian / monk more easily kills stuff than the flimsy wizard?) and they're just not very fun. Witch Doctor is a bad necromancer clone, Demon Hunter is like a crappy D2 assassin, Wizard is just a poor man's sorceress, Monk is actually alright in terms of overall design and Barbarian is just a straight rip from D2 and therefore the best class in the game.

Again, level 13, in act 1, on normal, is hardly any reference. Have you not played MMO games? Im not saying that D3 is an MMO, but the class progression is very important, and classes are balanced at max level, when they have all their abilities available. Pretty standard stuff.

The healing potion / healing orb issue just shows how schizophrenic the design team is. On the one hand, you have healing potions which allow you to decide when you need healing and use them when you need them. On the other hand, you have healing orbs which drop randomly off mobs and heal you when you walk over them. Of course, due to this, healing orbs are utterly useless, or at least could be better replaced by healing potion drops, and is a fine example of "lol wut are we meant to be doing again???".

This is to remedy a Health pot spam mechanic, but at the same time keeping the pace of the game nice and fast.

Graphically, the game is horrible. It reminds me of Icewind Dale 2 in terms of looks. You could say it has a certain style to it, if you thought style could mean "looks like it's from early 21st century". Low polygon models, ugly arse textures and a general bad colour scheme just makes the game seem faded and already aged. Compare it with, say, Diablo or Diablo 2 in modern resolutions and they don't look nearly as aged as this game.

This is purely taste. And tastes differ.

Controls-wise, the game's okay-ish. Everything's pretty much the same as Diablo 2 (shift to stay still whilst you attack, ctrl to view thingies, alt to view items etc), and everything is therefore okay.

Indeed.

I just fail to see how this is a Diablo game. To me, it feels like a poor Korean Diablo-wannabe that made a bunch of bad design decisions because they had a massive budget, a lot of time and no idea how to improve on the original.

How is it not a diablo game?

The graphical changes, gameplay changes, EVERYTHING changes have just ruined the overall experience and turned it into a game worthy of nothing more than the award of "Worst AAA Game of 2012".

You failed to research the game properly and decided that the beta would be the end-all info you needed. Anyone with the least bit of interest knows that the gameplay really starts at Nightmare.

There. I actually gave it a shot.

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Originally posted by Zekiah

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Originally posted by Banquetto

Well, we're still yet to hear any rational criticism from you. Just regurgitating stock phrases.. "kiddies!" "console friendly!".. and complete untruths like "not dark or gory".
 
What precisely is console friendly about D3 that wasn't the case for D2?

What precisely was so dark, gory and not-for-kids in D2 that is not present in D3?

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I take it you haven't played the game yet.
You'll find out when you see the hacked up UI they implemented and the graphics.
Don't hate. No need to get upset, it's just a game, we can all agree to disagree.

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What precisely is "hacked up" about the UI?

What precisely is wrong with the graphics?

Or did you just want to post and confirm for me that you have no rational criticism?

Originally posted by Banquetto

 

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Originally posted by Zekiah

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Originally posted by Banquetto

 

Well, we're still yet to hear any rational criticism from you. Just regurgitating stock phrases.. "kiddies!" "console friendly!".. and complete untruths like "not dark or gory".
 
What precisely is console friendly about D3 that wasn't the case for D2?

What precisely was so dark, gory and not-for-kids in D2 that is not present in D3?

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I take it you haven't played the game yet.
You'll find out when you see the hacked up UI they implemented and the graphics.
Don't hate. No need to get upset, it's just a game, we can all agree to disagree.

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Got into the closed beta months ago. Posted a couple of weeks ago on this thread what I liked about it.

 

What precisely is "hacked up" about the UI?

What precisely is wrong with the graphics?

Or did you just want to post and confirm for me that you have no rational criticism?

Is that so? So, did the bother to read the beta forums at all? You know nothing of the countless UI threads? About how they were designed for consoles and work like crap? Hmm, that's odd.

I've already addressed the graphics, it seems to me that perhaps you're the one who just wants to argue irrationally. You must be bored, only a couple of weeks to go so maybe you can spend your time on a different hobby other than trolling.

Originally posted by ArEf

So, I recently got into the Diablo 3 EU beta and wow. Seriously, wow. This game is BAD. I'm shocked it managed to get past even the new Blizzard's QA team.

I'm getting 200ms ping and having that registered as "good" (ie. in the green in terms of latency) by the game, with random 500ms lagspikes. It's entirely possible that the EU beta's servers are set up in the US, but I get at least 160ms from US servers in every other game, and god only knows. This leads to a shit tonne of artificial difficulty and near death experiences.

The CoD-esque levelling mechanics are laughable, as are the ways abilities work. Every level, you get a new ability or a new upgrade for one of your abilities, and you will ALWAYS have every ability at max level. You have no choice in what order you get them. The only thing that distinguises you from other players is gear.

Switching out abilities gives you a 10 second (or thereabouts, not sure on the exact figure) cooldown on that ability, which means switching out abilities or having more than six active abilities is unfeasible, which can lead to situations where you get attacked and don't have the right ability for the situation.

All this just feeds into having the easiest general loadout and spamming the attack until everything is dead, regardless of the situation. You approach everything in the same way, deal with it in the same way and the like. You won't vary from other player's experiences either, as they're ALSO doing it in the same way.

Don't get me started on how horribly the classes are in general. They're not archetypal, they're not very balanced (heavy armoured barbarian / monk more easily kills stuff than the flimsy wizard?) and they're just not very fun. Witch Doctor is a bad necromancer clone, Demon Hunter is like a crappy D2 assassin, Wizard is just a poor man's sorceress, Monk is actually alright in terms of overall design and Barbarian is just a straight rip from D2 and therefore the best class in the game.

The healing potion / healing orb issue just shows how schizophrenic the design team is. On the one hand, you have healing potions which allow you to decide when you need healing and use them when you need them. On the other hand, you have healing orbs which drop randomly off mobs and heal you when you walk over them. Of course, due to this, healing orbs are utterly useless, or at least could be better replaced by healing potion drops, and is a fine example of "lol wut are we meant to be doing again???".

Graphically, the game is horrible. It reminds me of Icewind Dale 2 in terms of looks. You could say it has a certain style to it, if you thought style could mean "looks like it's from early 21st century". Low polygon models, ugly arse textures and a general bad colour scheme just makes the game seem faded and already aged. Compare it with, say, Diablo or Diablo 2 in modern resolutions and they don't look nearly as aged as this game.

Controls-wise, the game's okay-ish. Everything's pretty much the same as Diablo 2 (shift to stay still whilst you attack, ctrl to view thingies, alt to view items etc), and everything is therefore okay.

I just fail to see how this is a Diablo game. To me, it feels like a poor Korean Diablo-wannabe that made a bunch of bad design decisions because they had a massive budget, a lot of time and no idea how to improve on the original.

The graphical changes, gameplay changes, EVERYTHING changes have just ruined the overall experience and turned it into a game worthy of nothing more than the award of "Worst AAA Game of 2012".

you forgot that the game is a cash grab store game, aka blizzard will make millions of dollars off its in game cash real money store.

ArEf,

Bro, dude, brah, your post is so ignorant, misinformed and in general full of malarkey it's scary.

Originally posted by neorandom

Originally posted by ArEf

<SNIP>

you forgot that the game is a cash grab store game, aka blizzard will make millions of dollars off its in game cash real money store.

And that's where all development money went into. Making sure the Real Money Auction House is as polished as possible.

This game has been in development for how many years? And still they had to scrap a ton of features in the end to get it out of the door!

But ofcourse the Real Money Auction House is perfectly polished and tested, so it works perfectly to fill those greedy Actvision Blizzard suits pockets nicely!

Had to make another post.

Boot up Diablo 2 and start the game new.

Compare that to Diablo 3 from 1-13 in the open beta.

You can't even compare the two Diablo 3 is so far improved it's not even funny.

The graphics look great for what they are.

People need to take off the rose tinted glasses man.  Diablo 2 for it's time was great, but just trying to play it now makes me want to pull my hair out.  It has not aged well.

D3 graphics are "good enough" and have a nice enough style that they will hold up for many, many years even as graphics improve more and more because the game isn't trying to look realistic.  This is the same reason why WoW still looks good because it has great art direction. 

I give creds to the Path of Exile creators.  I like what they are doing, but I've played the game and it in no way, shape or form comes even close to comparing to D3. 

I pretty much check this site out once a day for laughs because the amount of horse shit flying around here is mind boggling and provides a good head shaking chuckle.

Originally posted by Delerious1

Had to make another post.

Boot up Diablo 2 and start the game new.

Compare that to Diablo 3 from 1-13 in the open beta.

You can't even compare the two Diablo 3 is so far improved it's not even funny.

The graphics look great for what they are.

People need to take off the rose tinted glasses man.  Diablo 2 for it's time was great, but just trying to play it now makes me want to pull my hair out.  It has not aged well.

D3 graphics are "good enough" and have a nice enough style that they will hold up for many, many years even as graphics improve more and more because the game isn't trying to look realistic.  This is the same reason why WoW still looks good because it has great art direction. 

I give creds to the Path of Exile creators.  I like what they are doing, but I've played the game and it in no way, shape or form comes even close to comparing to D3. 

I pretty much check this site out once a day for laughs because the amount of horse shit flying around here is mind boggling and provides a good head shaking chuckle.

 

Booting up Diablo 1 tonight.

Deal with it

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Banquetto

 

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Originally posted by Zekiah

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Originally posted by Banquetto

 

Well, we're still yet to hear any rational criticism from you. Just regurgitating stock phrases.. "kiddies!" "console friendly!".. and complete untruths like "not dark or gory".
 
What precisely is console friendly about D3 that wasn't the case for D2?

What precisely was so dark, gory and not-for-kids in D2 that is not present in D3?

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I take it you haven't played the game yet.
You'll find out when you see the hacked up UI they implemented and the graphics.
Don't hate. No need to get upset, it's just a game, we can all agree to disagree.

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Got into the closed beta months ago. Posted a couple of weeks ago on this thread what I liked about it.

 

What precisely is "hacked up" about the UI?

What precisely is wrong with the graphics?

Or did you just want to post and confirm for me that you have no rational criticism?

Is that so? So, did the bother to read the beta forums at all? You know nothing of the countless UI threads? About how they were designed for consoles and work like crap? Hmm, that's odd.

I've already addressed the graphics, it seems to me that perhaps you're the one who just wants to argue irrationally. You must be bored, only a couple of weeks to go so maybe you can spend your time on a different hobby other than trolling.

So instead of answering his legitimate questions, you accuse him of trolling. How typical. The UI works/looks just fine. It's clean and functional, and honestly works a HELL of a lot better than D2's UI. In fact, it's pretty much the standard PC ARPG UI that's been used for quite a while.

Just because it doesn't use lots of tiny icons & text doesn't mean its 'consolish'.

The only troll I see here is you.

Originally posted by Rednecksith

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Banquetto

 

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Originally posted by Zekiah

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Originally posted by Banquetto

 

Well, we're still yet to hear any rational criticism from you. Just regurgitating stock phrases.. "kiddies!" "console friendly!".. and complete untruths like "not dark or gory".
 
What precisely is console friendly about D3 that wasn't the case for D2?

What precisely was so dark, gory and not-for-kids in D2 that is not present in D3?

---

I take it you haven't played the game yet.
You'll find out when you see the hacked up UI they implemented and the graphics.
Don't hate. No need to get upset, it's just a game, we can all agree to disagree.

---

Got into the closed beta months ago. Posted a couple of weeks ago on this thread what I liked about it.

 

What precisely is "hacked up" about the UI?

What precisely is wrong with the graphics?

Or did you just want to post and confirm for me that you have no rational criticism?

Is that so? So, did the bother to read the beta forums at all? You know nothing of the countless UI threads? About how they were designed for consoles and work like crap? Hmm, that's odd.

I've already addressed the graphics, it seems to me that perhaps you're the one who just wants to argue irrationally. You must be bored, only a couple of weeks to go so maybe you can spend your time on a different hobby other than trolling.

So instead of answering his legitimate questions, you accuse him of trolling. How typical. The UI works/looks just fine. It's clean and functional, and honestly works a HELL of a lot better than D2's UI. In fact, it's pretty much the standard PC ARPG UI that's been used for quite a while.

Just because it doesn't use lots of tiny icons & text doesn't mean its 'consolish'.

The only troll I see here is you.

 

It is not clean and it isn't very functional. It was designed for CONSOLES. Lol, you guys are too much. The name-calling gets silly real quick around here. If I'm a troll and a hater, I guess that would make you the fanbois. So, here you go fanboi...

The Skill UI

• On the face of it, to a new player there is nothing amiss. 6 skill slots, 6 categories of skills that go in those slots. The process of skill swapping is relatively smooth if you follow Blizzard's intended usage: right click a slot, select a skill, select a rune, accept. When you unlock a new skill slot, you open up a new skill category. Eventually you will have six slots for the 6 categories of spells. Cool. Nice and simple.
  
  Except that's wrong. This hand-held experience is hiding the underlying truth of the game. There are only 3 categories of spells: primary (cheap/generator damage), secondary (expensive/spender damage), and utility (everything else). These have been essentially shuffled into the 6 categories we have now. 
  
  The other truth that is being hidden is that you can put any skill in any slot. Your build is not restricted to the 6 arbitrary groups noted above. If you decide you want to use two skills from the same category, you might go looking for an option. But there's no reason someone *should* think that's even possible. The skill UI makes it quite clear how the game works (and it's wrong).
  
  Once you do discover elective mode, you find that the UI experience is sacrificed at the altar of the default mode. Now that you have the capability of playing the game as it was designed (sigh) you find that it's extremely clumsy to take advantage of your new-found freedom.
  
  There is no easy way to compare two skills that you don't put on your bar unless they happen to be in the same category. Paging through 6 categories to find one spell is extremely annoying. Much of the interface is unintuitive. Take moving spells between buttons, for example. Drag and drop works there, but not in the skill pane itself.
  
  All of this is unnecessary pain. Either get rid of non-elective mode and streamline the UI, or give us a different UI for elective mode. You can achieve a guided experience for new players without straitjacketing everyone else.

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Originally posted by Zekiah
Is that so? So, did the bother to read the beta forums at all? You know nothing of the countless UI threads? About how they were designed for consoles and work like crap? Hmm, that's odd.

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Designed for consoles? I've asked you already "how so?" and you've repeatedly proven yourself unable to answer.

Diablo 2: left-click to move and primary attack, right-click for secondary attack, fkeys to use different skills. Diablo 3: left-click to move and primary attack, right-click for secondary attack, numeric keys to use different skills. Yep, totally changed in order to work on consoles, I see it clearly now.

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Originally posted by Zekiah
I've already addressed the graphics, it seems to me that perhaps you're the one who just wants to argue irrationally. You must be bored, only a couple of weeks to go so maybe you can spend your time on a different hobby other than trolling.

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The other stuff you said about the graphics ("cartoony", "not dark", "not sinister", "designed for kiddies") is transparently false based on what we've seen so far (first part of act 1) and almost certain to become even more false in later acts (based on the history of the previous Diablo games).

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Rednecksith

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Banquetto

 

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Originally posted by Zekiah

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Originally posted by Banquetto

 

Well, we're still yet to hear any rational criticism from you. Just regurgitating stock phrases.. "kiddies!" "console friendly!".. and complete untruths like "not dark or gory".
 
What precisely is console friendly about D3 that wasn't the case for D2?

What precisely was so dark, gory and not-for-kids in D2 that is not present in D3?

---

I take it you haven't played the game yet.
You'll find out when you see the hacked up UI they implemented and the graphics.
Don't hate. No need to get upset, it's just a game, we can all agree to disagree.

---

Got into the closed beta months ago. Posted a couple of weeks ago on this thread what I liked about it.

 

What precisely is "hacked up" about the UI?

What precisely is wrong with the graphics?

Or did you just want to post and confirm for me that you have no rational criticism?

Is that so? So, did the bother to read the beta forums at all? You know nothing of the countless UI threads? About how they were designed for consoles and work like crap? Hmm, that's odd.

I've already addressed the graphics, it seems to me that perhaps you're the one who just wants to argue irrationally. You must be bored, only a couple of weeks to go so maybe you can spend your time on a different hobby other than trolling.

So instead of answering his legitimate questions, you accuse him of trolling. How typical. The UI works/looks just fine. It's clean and functional, and honestly works a HELL of a lot better than D2's UI. In fact, it's pretty much the standard PC ARPG UI that's been used for quite a while.

Just because it doesn't use lots of tiny icons & text doesn't mean its 'consolish'.

The only troll I see here is you.

 

It is not clean and it isn't very functional. It was designed for CONSOLES. Lol, you guys are too much. The name-calling gets silly real quick around here. If I'm a troll and a hater, I guess that would make you the fanbois. So, here you go fanboi...

 

The Skill UI

• On the face of it, to a new player there is nothing amiss. 6 skill slots, 6 categories of skills that go in those slots. The process of skill swapping is relatively smooth if you follow Blizzard's intended usage: right click a slot, select a skill, select a rune, accept. When you unlock a new skill slot, you open up a new skill category. Eventually you will have six slots for the 6 categories of spells. Cool. Nice and simple.
  
  Except that's wrong. This hand-held experience is hiding the underlying truth of the game. There are only 3 categories of spells: primary (cheap/generator damage), secondary (expensive/spender damage), and utility (everything else). These have been essentially shuffled into the 6 categories we have now. 
  
  The other truth that is being hidden is that you can put any skill in any slot. Your build is not restricted to the 6 arbitrary groups noted above. If you decide you want to use two skills from the same category, you might go looking for an option. But there's no reason someone *should* think that's even possible. The skill UI makes it quite clear how the game works (and it's wrong).
  
  Once you do discover elective mode, you find that the UI experience is sacrificed at the altar of the default mode. Now that you have the capability of playing the game as it was designed (sigh) you find that it's extremely clumsy to take advantage of your new-found freedom.
  
  There is no easy way to compare two skills that you don't put on your bar unless they happen to be in the same category. Paging through 6 categories to find one spell is extremely annoying. Much of the interface is unintuitive. Take moving spells between buttons, for example. Drag and drop works there, but not in the skill pane itself.
  
  All of this is unnecessary pain. Either get rid of non-elective mode and streamline the UI, or give us a different UI for elective mode. You can achieve a guided experience for new players without straitjacketing everyone else.

So you have one issue with the skill UI, namely the elective mode and that makes the whole UI crap? I don't have an issue with it and handled it fine but if you need your hand held when removing the hand holding feature then ok.. don't remove it. 

Originally posted by bishbosh

everyone saying d3 is great hasnt posted a single reason why it is great. just silly fanbois jumping on the next new thing.

d3 is clearly a step back from d2. you cannot allocate skill points or stat points. everyone is the exactly the same. how are you fanbois gonna justify that? 

its too easy even on normal and it doesnt have that gothic dark atmosphere. i dont know why they went with cartonny rainbow graphics? the graphics engineering-wise are terrible. really backward. 

 

im all for change if it means extending the depth of a game. removing skill/stat points and making the game kid friendly is just stupid. 

just accept reality. old blizzard is dead, its all about the money now. i think you fanbois should wake up and realise that buying this hyped turd is going to result in more hyped turds. 

I will give a few reasons why D3 is great.